Re: [scifinoir2] Zeta-Jones and Bullock 'Too Old' for 'Wonder Woman'
I forgot all about Charisma! Leslee Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Charisma Carpenter won't get it, Joss Whedon fired her from Angel, so I'm not thinking he wants to work with her again. Too bad, because she is perfect! Alexa Davalos would be really good, and she is not too well known, so I think she would be a good choice. I agree with Linda Carter that it should be an unknown actress, not anyone established. JMHO. I think the movie has a better shot at succeeding that way - Original Message - From: Keith Johnson To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 8:33 PM Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Zeta-Jones and Bullock 'Too Old' for 'Wonder Woman' Wonder Woman's always been portrayed as Caucasian, odd considering her people are influenced by the Greek gods. But hey, Kevin Sorbo wasn't exactly Greek either! Either way, I agree about Torres, but you know there's as much a chance of that as Tyrease playing Superman. So, looking at non-Black women, I think the girl who plays the Companion on Firefly has the looks, not sure if she has the attitude. But her Brazilian-Italian heritage definitely fits the look better. How about the dark-haired beauty from Angel who had electrical powers? She was a thief that Angel and the gang encountered. She was tough... -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bosco Bosco Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 22:51 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Zeta-Jones and Bullock 'Too Old' for 'Wonder Woman' I don't know much about Wonder Woman other than she was a DC Comics heroine and the 70's TV series featured Linda Carter. Does Wonder Woman have to be caucasian? On the Fire Fly front, Why not Gina Torres? She'd make an awesome Wonder Woman. She exudes power, strength and confidence as Zoe. Plus she's about 110% totally hawt. Bosco --- Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking for myself, I don't see either Holmes or Barton as the Wonder Woman I'd like to see. I've always liked having my heroes be a little older, more mature. I like Whedon a lot, but his leaning toward these women concerns me. Last thing I want is him bringing a Buffy-type sensibility to Diana's story. I'd love to see a Charisma Carpenter type--both in age and body type. Or how about going with Firefly beauty Morena Baccarin? It'd be nice to see someone who's not simply Caucasian play the Themysciran princess. Zeta-Jones and Bullock 'Too Old' for 'Wonder Woman' Hollywood beauties Catherine Zeta-Jones and Sandra Bullock have been dismissed as too old to play superheroine Wonder Woman in a new movie version of the TV series - by the show's original star. Lynda Carter, who starred in the original 1970s show, would prefer to see Buffy The Vampire Slayer creator Joss Whedon cast a young actress in the lead role rather than any established stars who have been linked with the part. She says, It should be an unknown actress who's about 20. The OC's Mischa Barton and Tom Cruise's fiancee Katie Holmes are said to be amongst Whedon's prime candidates for his 2007 release. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs _ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group scifinoir2 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2 on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . _ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -
Re: [scifinoir2] Wireless wallets come closer to reality
I had the same concept in mind when I created the T-plate in my storylines... Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Bet you'd been wondering when my next convergence/future-is-now post would be coming, right? :) Some thoughts here. One, would the cards be tied directly into a bank account like a debit card? With no need for a PIN or signature, just waving this thing everywhere, a thief could go to town if he stole it from you. Maybe you'll be able to limit the amounts on the cards, possibly even use a bank Web site to manage your own card or phone. Perhaps you could configure how much it could be used for in a day (the way most banks limit ATM withdrawals daily), and you could even activate/deactivate it via a Web site. Whatever, security has to be more than just that waving it near a sensor. What if computer systems fail or--likely in today's world of hackers--someone accesses secure servers and steals your private ID to go on a spending spree? Two, this makes us even more dependent on modern technology, for good or ill. That also means we'd be more prone to mistakes in computer records and accounting, and will make it more important for us to manage our money. Imagine a computer glitch that said you used your phone debit chip to buy $150 worth of movie tickets. Might take a while to correct that. Are we getting closer to that future world where everyone uses credits instead of paper or coin money? Is that a good thing? I'd imagine there'll always be a need for hard money, especially gold and silver, in case of economic collapse. Finally, do technological steps like this, coupled with tech like RFIDs and increased security concerns, push even further to a universal ID card? And is that good or bad. Who among you would use such a system? I have to admit that despite all my concerns I'd jump right on it. I mean, I work in IT and I know how vulnerable even the best secured systems are. But I've been using a debit card here in Atlanta for well over a decade, I do all my banking and bill payment online, and I'm currently typing this on a wireless connection in my place. So yeah, I can see myself getting in to the whole idea of waving that little chip in front of a ticket kiosk, so I can save a whole 30 seconds on getting my Batman Begins movie tickets! PluggedIn:Wireless wallets come closer to reality By Sinead CarewFri Jul 29, 2:59 PM ET Imagine being able to pay for a song on the jukebox, buy a bag of groceries or gain admission to a sports arena by simply waving your phone by a machine. With consumers in Asia and Europe already using their mobile phones to pay for soda and parking fees, the long discussed concept of the wireless wallet could be slowly creeping closer to reality in the United States. In countries such as Sweden, Ireland and the United Kingdom drivers can avoid putting coins in a parking meter by simply sending a text message on their mobile phone. About two million customers of Japan's NTT DoCoMo Inc (9437.T) can already use mobile phones with built-in debit cards to pay about 20,000 merchants such as restaurants and supermarkets. DoCoMo, which U.S. telephone carriers often look to for inspiration for new services, also plans for customers to use their phones in place of train tickets. It also invested in a credit card company as part of its bet on mobile commerce. U.S. companies have been quiet about mobile commerce since hype about wireless wallets was deflated when the dot.com bubble burst in 2000. Many are still skeptical, but some are warming to the idea again amid U.S. and overseas developments. The (mobile commerce) discussion has more validity now. The technology and the business models are evolving, said Chris Bierbaum a business development executive at Sprint (NYSE:FON - news), the No. 3 U.S. operator. The popularity of music ringtones is one sign consumers are ready to use phones for buying more than calls. Music labels now see wireless as a key market after U.S. consumers spent $223 million on ringtones in 2004 according to Yankee Group. And as phones -- being built with everything from video players to cameras -- add even more features, soon the music industry may not be alone in seeing wireless as a lucrative alternative market to sell their products. You will continue to see more and more industries come to that conclusion, said Peter Ritcher chief financial officer of Cingular Wireless, the No. 1 U.S. mobile service. Purveyors of everything from fast food to movie tickets may be next to jump on the wireless bandwagon by way of so-called contactless payment cards that can be waved at a sensor rather than swiped through a sales terminal, one executive said. These cards are issued by U.S. bank J.P. Morgan Chase Co (NYSE:JPM - news) and Randy Vandebwong1rhoff, executive director of the Smart Card Alliance said multiple banks plan tests this year.McDonald's Corp (NYSE:MCD - news) is expect to support the cards and convenience store 7-Eleven Inc. (NYSE:SE
Re: [scifinoir2] Wireless wallets come closer to reality
What's the T-plate? -- Original message -- I had the same concept in mind when I created the T-plate in my storylines... Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Bet you'd been wondering when my next convergence/future-is-now post would be coming, right? :) Some thoughts here. One, would the cards be tied directly into a bank account like a debit card? With no need for a PIN or signature, just waving this thing everywhere, a thief could go to town if he stole it from you. Maybe you'll be able to limit the amounts on the cards, possibly even use a bank Web site to manage your own card or phone. Perhaps you could configure how much it could be used for in a day (the way most banks limit ATM withdrawals daily), and you could even activate/deactivate it via a Web site. Whatever, security has to be more than just that waving it near a sensor. What if computer systems fail or--likely in today's world of hackers--someone accesses secure servers and steals your private ID to go on a spending spree? Two, this makes us even more dependent on modern technology, for good or ill. That also means we'd be more prone to mistakes in computer records and accounting, and will make it more important for us to manage our money. Imagine a computer glitch that said you used your phone debit chip to buy $150 worth of movie tickets. Might take a while to correct that. Are we getting closer to that future world where everyone uses credits instead of paper or coin money? Is that a good thing? I'd imagine there'll always be a need for hard money, especially gold and silver, in case of economic collapse. Finally, do technological steps like this, coupled with tech like RFIDs and increased security concerns, push even further to a universal ID card? And is that good or bad. Who among you would use such a system? I have to admit that despite all my concerns I'd jump right on it. I mean, I work in IT and I know how vulnerable even the best secured systems are. But I've been using a debit card here in Atlanta for well over a decade, I do all my banking and bill payment online, and I'm currently typing this on a wireless connection in my place. So yeah, I can see myself getting in to the whole idea of waving that little chip in front of a ticket kiosk, so I can save a whole 30 seconds on getting my Batman Begins movie tickets! PluggedIn:Wireless wallets come closer to reality By Sinead CarewFri Jul 29, 2:59 PM ET Imagine being able to pay for a song on the jukebox, buy a bag of groceries or gain admission to a sports arena by simply waving your phone by a machine. With consumers in Asia and Europe already using their mobile phones to pay for soda and parking fees, the long discussed concept of the wireless wallet could be slowly creeping closer to reality in the United States. In countries such as Sweden, Ireland and the United Kingdom drivers can avoid putting coins in a parking meter by simply sending a text message on their mobile phone. About two million customers of Japan's NTT DoCoMo Inc (9437.T) can already use mobile phones with built-in debit cards to pay about 20,000 merchants such as restaurants and supermarkets. DoCoMo, which U.S. telephone carriers often look to for inspiration for new services, also plans for customers to use their phones in place of train tickets. It also invested in a credit card company as part of its bet on mobile commerce. U.S. companies have been quiet about mobile commerce since hype about wireless wallets was deflated when the dot.com bubble burst in 2000. Many are still skeptical, but some are warming to the idea again amid U.S. and overseas developments. The (mobile commerce) discussion has more validity now. The technology and the business models are evolving, said Chris Bierbaum a business development executive at Sprint (NYSE:FON - news), the No. 3 U.S. operator. The popularity of music ringtones is one sign consumers are ready to use phones for buying more than calls. Music labels now see wireless as a key market after U.S. consumers spent $223 million on ringtones in 2004 according to Yankee Group. And as phones -- being built with everything from video players to cameras -- add even more features, soon the music industry may not be alone in seeing wireless as a lucrative alternative market to sell their products. You will continue to see more and more industries come to that conclusion, said Peter Ritcher chief financial officer of Cingular Wireless, the No. 1 U.S. mobile service. Purveyors of everything from fast food to movie tickets may be next to jump on the wireless bandwagon by way of so-called contactless payment cards that can be waved at a sensor rather than swiped through a sales terminal, one executive said. These cards are issued by U.S. bank J.P. Morgan Chase Co (NYSE:JPM - news) and Randy Vandebwong1rhoff, executive director of the Smart Card Alliance said multiple banks plan tests this year.McDonald's Corp (NYSE:MCD - news) is
[scifinoir2] Terry Mcmillian on XMradio this afternoon talking about her book
Terry McMillian was being interviewed on XMRadio, on a channel called, The Power. which is the only national 24 hour all-Black talk radio program in the country. It was about her book, The interruption of everything. She was talking about how she found the books on the shelf, shamefull. She said she wished they would publish better stories then what they are putting out there and She wished they would empty her books on the shelf and open the door for more Black authors. She said it makes her really sick. She said she wanted to slap one woman who walked up to her and said, Ms. McMillian, your the only books I see. She was also pushing her new web page (not complete yet). She suggested, If you had the power, to do something for someone else and not make it all about you. She slipped and referred to Oprah not doing that. (maybe she didn't slip, because she seems to be a very loose-lip woman). She said she didn't want to put a website where it was just her. Oh, here is me in the kitchen, she said. But if she did put a picture of her, it would be her without makeup and busted. Under the pic it would read, This is how you really look when you write. She is a trip. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12htan8c7/M=362335.6886444.7839734.2575449/D=groups/S=1705034827:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123096254/A=2894362/R=0/SIG=138c78jl6/*http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/arts_culture/?source=YAHOOcmpgn=GRPRTP=http://groups.yahoo.com/;What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater?Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good/a./font ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] What does Sci-Fi have against Black people?
Someone posted that question in another forum about Battlestar Galactica (TNS)and I've been thinking about it for a while. I'm pretty sure its been hashed out here before, but I don't know how to search for a particular subject in Yahoo Groups. Has there EVER been a civilization of Black folks that were the equals or more advanced than the main characters of the show? Star Trek: I think Paul Mooney said it best: Who's writing these shows for Black people? On Star Trek, one nigger's blind, the other one looked like his mother fucked a turtle Stargate: Big Black Guy, a Ga-ol(sp?) basically a brute. They might have expanded his character over the course of the show (I saw him smile near the end of an episode I happened to catch), I dunno cuz I don't watch it. After all, the Black Egyptians couldn't possibly have invented culture and art and physics all by themselves, it MUST have been some benevolent Aryan, er, um *alien* race that took pity on them and gave em all of that. (From a purely sci-fi perspective, a neat idea, and I was able to check my brain and my militancy enough to enjoy the movie, but not enough to watch the series.) Farscape: The one time Crichton encounters Black people they are a backwards civilization living like Amazon tribespeople (granted, they gave a good in-episode explanation as to why that culture had not advanced, but sheesh!) and, of course, the cheif's daughter wants to bone the White boy. Don't all Black people have Vanilla fantasies? Battlestar Galactica: (New Series) Well, there's a COMMUNICATIONS officer. . . . Apparently all of the other Black people, with the exception of the religious leader, were killed in the bombing of Caprica. Same with Buck Rogers - I don't recall ever seeing a dark face on there, with the exception of the singers with three mouths - guess all the Black folks were killed off in the cataclysm while Buck was traveling through time. I think its that sci-fi in general doesn't have very many Black folks in it at all levels - writers, producers, directors, etc. I think that when none of the people who create something look like Wesley Snipes, chances are they will have issues, or at least some difficulty, seeing a Black face in that role - especially when that role has real power and possibilities for sexual attraction. In the new BSG, there's NO real reason why Adama couldn't have been Black, for example, unless the racial politics on Caprica also echo our civilization. In fact, the very concept of the series should lead to more color-blind casting as the Roman Empire, which this civilization is based on (or which perhaps was influenced by *this* civilization?) didn't do ethnic-based slavery. A good example of what the lack of Black folks behind the scenes does is the movie Pleasantville. This was an entire movie about people who lived in a Black and White world. The movie makes the point that the people there weren't alive until COLOR was introduced - yet there were NO Black people in the movie and only a few people of color in the beginning high school sequence in our world. To me, being Black and all, it seems obvious that the most shocking and obvious thing in this movie would have been the introduction of a Black person, or a whole *bunch* of Black people. Imagine finding out about the concept of color and then finding out that not only things can be different colors but PEOPLE as well! But I digress. . . . One of the things the original show *did* do well, IMHO, was show diversity - not just in the casting (having Asian and Black major characters) but the extras as well. Unlike Friends and other TV shows which seem to exist in some mythically White world (no Black or Hispanics in friggin NEW YORK!?!), there were people of color there - yes they were in the background, but there were THERE. Anyway, I've always said we'd be much better off if, instead of begging Whitey for inclusion, we would form companies and produce our own media. If we really want to see Sci-Fi and other media outlets change their views, or lack therof, of Black folk, we need to get up off our collective duff and make them or, if lacking the knowledge and ability to make them, make it a point to support those who are. If films like Sankofa and Rosewood got the support we give films like Scarface and Willie Wonka (I *think* I saw 1 Black person in the film not counting the Oompa Loompa guy), I don't think this would be an issue. Thoughts? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hsg355l/M=362335.6886444.7839734.2575449/D=groups/S=1705034827:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123098069/A=2894362/R=0/SIG=138c78jl6/*http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/arts_culture/?source=YAHOOcmpgn=GRPRTP=http://groups.yahoo.com/;What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater?Donate or volunteer in the arts today at
[scifinoir2] Scots bicker over birthplace of 'Scotty':-
http://news.webindia123.com/news/showdetails.asp?id=103153cat=Entertainment News Entertainment Scots bicker over birthplace of 'Scotty':- EDINBURGH, Scotland | August 03, 2005 Star Trek geekdom is spiraling out of control in Scotland where four towns are warring over the birthplace of the fictional Enterprise engineer, Scotty. The row erupted after the recent death of actor James Doohan (don't tell the Scots, but he was Canadian) who portrayed Montgomery Scott in the U.S. TV cult classic. Aberdeen, Linlithgow, Elgin and Edinburgh all claim to be Scotty's birthplace - regardless of the fact Scotty's true birthplace was the head of Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry, the Edinburgh Scotsman reported. Nonetheless, city officials and Trekkies in all four towns have proof backing up their claims and each has plans to erect a memorial Scotty as portrayed by - dare we say - a Canadian. (UPI) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h5mamg4/M=362335.6886444.7839734.2575449/D=groups/S=1705034827:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123099757/A=2894362/R=0/SIG=138c78jl6/*http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/arts_culture/?source=YAHOOcmpgn=GRPRTP=http://groups.yahoo.com/;What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater?Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good/a./font ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] What does Sci-Fi have against Black people?
All of the things you've mentioned in this post we have hashed over and came to the same conclusion: If we want to see US in them, we have to write them... DJ VIBE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Someone posted that question in another forum about Battlestar Galactica (TNS)and I've been thinking about it for a while. I'm pretty sure its been hashed out here before, but I don't know how to search for a particular subject in Yahoo Groups. Has there EVER been a civilization of Black folks that were the equals or more advanced than the main characters of the show? Star Trek: I think Paul Mooney said it best: Who's writing these shows for Black people? On Star Trek, one nigger's blind, the other one looked like his mother fucked a turtle Stargate: Big Black Guy, a Ga-ol(sp?) basically a brute. They might have expanded his character over the course of the show (I saw him smile near the end of an episode I happened to catch), I dunno cuz I don't watch it. After all, the Black Egyptians couldn't possibly have invented culture and art and physics all by themselves, it MUST have been some benevolent Aryan, er, um *alien* race that took pity on them and gave em all of that. (From a purely sci-fi perspective, a neat idea, and I was able to check my brain and my militancy enough to enjoy the movie, but not enough to watch the series.) Farscape: The one time Crichton encounters Black people they are a backwards civilization living like Amazon tribespeople (granted, they gave a good in-episode explanation as to why that culture had not advanced, but sheesh!) and, of course, the cheif's daughter wants to bone the White boy. Don't all Black people have Vanilla fantasies? Battlestar Galactica: (New Series) Well, there's a COMMUNICATIONS officer. . . . Apparently all of the other Black people, with the exception of the religious leader, were killed in the bombing of Caprica. Same with Buck Rogers - I don't recall ever seeing a dark face on there, with the exception of the singers with three mouths - guess all the Black folks were killed off in the cataclysm while Buck was traveling through time. I think its that sci-fi in general doesn't have very many Black folks in it at all levels - writers, producers, directors, etc. I think that when none of the people who create something look like Wesley Snipes, chances are they will have issues, or at least some difficulty, seeing a Black face in that role - especially when that role has real power and possibilities for sexual attraction. In the new BSG, there's NO real reason why Adama couldn't have been Black, for example, unless the racial politics on Caprica also echo our civilization. In fact, the very concept of the series should lead to more color-blind casting as the Roman Empire, which this civilization is based on (or which perhaps was influenced by *this* civilization?) didn't do ethnic-based slavery. A good example of what the lack of Black folks behind the scenes does is the movie Pleasantville. This was an entire movie about people who lived in a Black and White world. The movie makes the point that the people there weren't alive until COLOR was introduced - yet there were NO Black people in the movie and only a few people of color in the beginning high school sequence in our world. To me, being Black and all, it seems obvious that the most shocking and obvious thing in this movie would have been the introduction of a Black person, or a whole *bunch* of Black people. Imagine finding out about the concept of color and then finding out that not only things can be different colors but PEOPLE as well! But I digress. . . . One of the things the original show *did* do well, IMHO, was show diversity - not just in the casting (having Asian and Black major characters) but the extras as well. Unlike Friends and other TV shows which seem to exist in some mythically White world (no Black or Hispanics in friggin NEW YORK!?!), there were people of color there - yes they were in the background, but there were THERE. Anyway, I've always said we'd be much better off if, instead of begging Whitey for inclusion, we would form companies and produce our own media. If we really want to see Sci-Fi and other media outlets change their views, or lack therof, of Black folk, we need to get up off our collective duff and make them or, if lacking the knowledge and ability to make them, make it a point to support those who are. If films like Sankofa and Rosewood got the support we give films like Scarface and Willie Wonka (I *think* I saw 1 Black person in the film not counting the Oompa Loompa guy), I don't think this would be an issue. Thoughts? - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
