[scifinoir2] Re: What is your ecological footprint?
Thanks for the article. Yeah, things shipped from 2,000 miles away should cost more at the supermarket than things shipped from 200 miles away, but sadly they often don't. Also, there is the accountability aspect. If you get sick from your food, who do you complain to? The corporate supermarket chain, the wholesaler, the shipper, or the original source? Your local farmer or CSA would be much more responsive than any of these corporate entities. BTW, about your footprint score, lower is better. 20 isn't too bad since the average American scores about 24. The important point is the message below the score: how many planets are needed if everyone lived as you live. While house size does matter, what you eat and how your travel matters a lot. If you eat a lot of meat, your score goes up faster than you think. For example, it takes about 6 pounds of grain to create one pound of beef; then there's the processing and transportation activities, which are energy dependent. And as far as how you travel, air travel will up your score very quickly. Even if you drive a modest amount of miles, your score will go up quickly since auto drivers consume a lot of fossil fuels, pollute the air, and autos are made with a variety of environmental- unfriendly materials. A higher mileage car is better. A motorcycle is better than that. Mass transit is even better than both. Walking and bicycling more is best. Implicit in the question about which city's weather best matches where you live, are heating and cooling estimates to keep your home comfortable in summer and winter. It'd be nice if the quiz (from 2002) was updated for: - zero-emission homes which are becoming more popular... especially in sunny, warm climates where solar panels can be used year-round - bio-diesel and hybrid cars George --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Brent Wodehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A related article: http://www.thetyee.ca/Life/2005/08/12/TravelledFood/ For the record, my ecol. footprint was a somewhat shameful 20.:-\ Apparently, I gained acreage per the size of my home(s). It'd be interesting to discover by what method they derive these scores (esp. interesting as I scored so embarrassingly high; five planets to sustain me?!? Alas, a devourer of worlds, it seems, am I. :-) Brent Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hqb4cli/M=362335.6886444.7839734.2575449/D=groups/S=1705034827:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124384031/A=2894362/R=0/SIG=138c78jl6/*http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/arts_culture/?source=YAHOOcmpgn=GRPRTP=http://groups.yahoo.com/;What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater?Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good/a./font ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] What is your ecological footprint?
Somaybe being poor is good, huh? Less to waste... ok, maybe not... :o) ---Original Message--- From: Astromancer Date: 08/17/05 23:11:06 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] What is your ecological footprint? Lower is better...Mine was 11...only because I'm poor though... M C Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Mine was 48. What's better, higher or lower? I still missed that at the site... Maurice ---Original Message--- From: Laileana Date: 08/17/05 15:42:29 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] What is your ecological footprint? Mine was 20, interesting website! lois g123curious [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the Star Trek universe, almost all energy and resource consumption issues in the Federation have been solved; except for the tear in subspace due to warp travel. Which makes one ask: how are we doing today versus that ideal? To answer that question, I thought that you might enjoy taking this quiz: http://www.earthday.net/footprint/index.asp Ecological Footprint Quiz It's easy and will take only a couple minutes to complete. CAUTION: THIS QUIZ MAY SURPRISE YOU, SHOCK YOU, OR MAKE YOU THINK. PLEASE REMAIN CALM...BUT NOT TOO CALM!! Mine was a woeful 15. George Captain The USS Ronald E. McNair (Boston) - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - - Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h5sfeqk/M=362335.6886444.7839734.2575449/D=groups/S=1705034827:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124396252/A=2894362/R=0/SIG=138c78jl6/*http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/arts_culture/?source=YAHOOcmpgn=GRPRTP=http://groups.yahoo.com/;What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater?Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good/a./font ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi!
Everybody does not do well as vegetarian(s). Check out your blood type. If you're a type 'A' like I am, vegetarian is the way to go. On the other hand type 'O', the original type, is a meat-eating type. Got it from the original diet. Type 'A' evolved after humans settled down and began to grow stuff. Type 'B' is mostly Asian, and AB is the latest evolved type. VERY sketchy, but since I've started paying attention to my diet according to my blood type, I've had a lot less trouble because of food reactions. When I stopped eating red meat, my cholesterol dropped way down into the normal range even though I still pigged out on some really ugly foods. After I had a recent operation, I let my craving for protein lead me to red meat, and my cholesterol is way up again...I'm getting it back under control .. Maurice ---Original Message--- From: Meta Date: 08/18/05 11:43:22 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, g123curious [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Feeling depressed? Are you disappointed with the current crop of sci- fi TV shows and films? Are you upset with your government and the current state of politics? Don't despair. There is balance in the universe. Things are never as bad as they seem. Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi. This should bring a huge smile to your face: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/08/15/austrian_signs/ Enjoy! George Captain The USS Ronald E. McNair (Boston) I was very surprised at my results. My footprint is 2.1 and planets needed was 1.2. I think the meat eating got me. I've got my family down to a few days a week on average of no meat, but as Dad is a serious carnivore, so far no meat dinner is out of the question. Meta YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h7uqvc1/M=362335.6886444.7839734.2575449/D=groups/S=1705034827:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124396723/A=2894362/R=0/SIG=138c78jl6/*http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/arts_culture/?source=YAHOOcmpgn=GRPRTP=http://groups.yahoo.com/;What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater?Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good/a./font ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Germans aren't excited about videogames
I find this fascinating. You know I follow the gaming industry for its cultural impact, its growing economic power, which now rivals (perhaps surpasses) the movie industry's. Its potential for education and even further opening up the communication potential of the Net. I guess I'd taken it for granted that gaming was growing exponentially all over the world. It's definitely a force in the US and Asia. Australia has enough gaming concerns to make games like Grand Theft Auto bones of contention (Australia bans a lot of mature games). Europe is generically spoken of as one monolithic unit. So imagine my surprise to know that Germans have yet to see anything important in gaming. What, do they have the unmitigated gall to read and write and go to the theatre and take strolls, rather than gluing their eyes to a TV screen? Very interesting. Do you know of any other countries that haven't gotten into the video game revolution? Not because they're poor and can't afford it (many Latin and African countries) but because the people simply aren't that interested? Germany video games fair opens amid image problems By Georgina ProdhanThu Aug 18, 6:42 AM ET Europe's biggest computer games fair opened its doors to the public on Thursday, with its German hosts expecting more visitors than ever but still fighting an image problem in the country. As they prepared to welcome at least 110,000 video games enthusiasts in the German city of Leipzig, exhibitors scratched their heads as to why they were still unable to crack the gaming market in Europe's biggest but slowest-growing economy. We have some way to catch up, to put it mildly, the fair's director, Josef Rahman, told a news conference. It's a very important industry and we shouldn't leave it all to our American, Japanese and English friends. Organizers said Germans had spent 466 million euros on video games last year, 15 percent more than in the previous year but still a tiny proportion of the estimated $25 billion spent globally on games software and hardware each year. Germany, with a population of more than 80 million, lags far behind not only the United States and Japan but also smaller European neighbors Britain and France in terms of the proportion of households that have games consoles. Gerhard Florin, European manager of the world's biggest games software publisher, Electronic Arts (Nasdaq:ERTS - news), said a battle still had to be fought against the perception that computer games made young people stupid. I'm often asked when I'm abroad, in connection with our industry: 'What is wrong with the Germans?' he said in a keynote speech at the fair's opening. Florin said plain ignorance about the industry was often to blame, and called for a public education campaign, warning that Germany could otherwise find itself in a cultural backwater. Germany was definitely a cultural leader in the age of pictures and books in the 19th century -- but already in the 20th century of films, TV or music this wasn't true any more. Germany shouldn't allow itself another century of cultural silence, he said, adding that the computer-games industry was already bigger than the film industry and was set to overtake videos, too. IT'S NOT BAD TO READ BOOKS The Games Convention's Organizers are trying to ensure not only that the German market opens up but also that the German economy will benefit. Currently, there is no major games software or hardware company in the country. By contrast, Canada -- a nation which has less than half of Germany's population -- has the world's biggest video-games studio in Vancouver, and the hit Grand Theft Auto games were developed in Scotland. Alongside the Leipzig games fair, Organizers are trying to foster a games-creation hothouse with a three-day developer conference, which this year attracted more than 450 participants from 14 countries. Our developers don't have the access to the international market that they should, given that we are a major industrial nation, said fair director Rahmen. The fair's Organizers have enlisted the Federal Association for Interactive Entertainment Software and the Children's Charity of Germany to help with campaigning. Parents can visit a special family-themed, education-oriented section of the fair and adults accompanying children pay a reduced daily entry fee of 7 euros, compared with the full price of 10 euros. Dirk Hoeschen, spokesman for the Children's Charity, blamed a lack of computer awareness from an early age, saying that German schoolchildren used computers far less than their counterparts in other European countries. It's impossible to understand why computers aren't used in kindergartens, he said, blaming a too-high regard for the book over other media. Electronic Arts' Florin was diplomatic. It's not bad to read books but it's just as good to play games. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi!
I stand 6'1, weigh about 210 pounds, yet eat very little meat for my size. Everyone expresses surprise at how little meat I eat. I workout a great deal and always seem to have high energy. A few years ago when this weight consisted of more fat (now it's hopefully more muscle with a little fat left) I went cold-turkey vegan for three months. Though I missed the barbecue, Mexican food (beef), and ham with my pancakes, I did surprisingly well. My wife, however, had a terrible time. She could barely last two weeks, and was always craving meat. It wasn't until much later that you and others made me aware of the whole blood type thing. I'm type AB, which according to that Web site you (?) posted, doesn't need much meat. Indeed, AB needs to stay away from a wide range of meat and dairy products. -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M C Jennings Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 14:25 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi! Everybody does not do well as vegetarian(s). Check out your blood type. If you're a type 'A' like I am, vegetarian is the way to go. On the other hand type 'O', the original type, is a meat-eating type. Got it from the original diet. Type 'A' evolved after humans settled down and began to grow stuff. Type 'B' is mostly Asian, and AB is the latest evolved type. VERY sketchy, but since I've started paying attention to my diet according to my blood type, I've had a lot less trouble because of food reactions. When I stopped eating red meat, my cholesterol dropped way down into the normal range even though I still pigged out on some really ugly foods. After I had a recent operation, I let my craving for protein lead me to red meat, and my cholesterol is way up again...I'm getting it back under control .. Maurice ---Original Message--- From: Meta Date: 08/18/05 11:43:22 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, g123curious [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Feeling depressed? Are you disappointed with the current crop of sci- fi TV shows and films? Are you upset with your government and the current state of politics? Don't despair. There is balance in the universe. Things are never as bad as they seem. Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi. This should bring a huge smile to your face: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/08/15/austrian_signs/ Enjoy! George Captain The USS Ronald E. McNair (Boston) I was very surprised at my results. My footprint is 2.1 and planets needed was 1.2. I think the meat eating got me. I've got my family down to a few days a week on average of no meat, but as Dad is a serious carnivore, so far no meat dinner is out of the question. Meta YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS *Visit your group scifinoir2 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2 on the web. *To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . _ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12heqonhr/M=362335.6886444.7839734.2575449/D=groups/S=1705034827:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124412420/A=2894362/R=0/SIG=138c78jl6/*http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/arts_culture/?source=YAHOOcmpgn=GRPRTP=http://groups.yahoo.com/;What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater?Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good/a./font ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] What is your ecological footprint?
Not... M C Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Somaybe being poor is good, huh? Less to waste... ok, maybe not... :o) ---Original Message--- From: Astromancer Date: 08/17/05 23:11:06 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] What is your ecological footprint? Lower is better...Mine was 11...only because I'm poor though... M C Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Mine was 48. What's better, higher or lower? I still missed that at the site... Maurice ---Original Message--- From: Laileana Date: 08/17/05 15:42:29 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] What is your ecological footprint? Mine was 20, interesting website! lois g123curious [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the Star Trek universe, almost all energy and resource consumption issues in the Federation have been solved; except for the tear in subspace due to warp travel. Which makes one ask: how are we doing today versus that ideal? To answer that question, I thought that you might enjoy taking this quiz: http://www.earthday.net/footprint/index.asp Ecological Footprint Quiz It's easy and will take only a couple minutes to complete. CAUTION: THIS QUIZ MAY SURPRISE YOU, SHOCK YOU, OR MAKE YOU THINK. PLEASE REMAIN CALM...BUT NOT TOO CALM!! Mine was a woeful 15. George Captain The USS Ronald E. McNair (Boston) - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - - Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h4hnq8b/M=362335.6886444.7839734.2575449/D=groups/S=1705034827:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124414344/A=2894362/R=0/SIG=138c78jl6/*http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/arts_culture/?source=YAHOOcmpgn=GRPRTP=http://groups.yahoo.com/;What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater?Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good/a./font ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Fw: Voracious black holes hide their appetite in dusty galaxies
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Really cool! http://www.brightsurf.com/news/headlines/view.article.php?ArticleID=20533 Voracious black holes hide their appetite in dusty galaxies August 08, 2005 A UK-led team of astronomers reports today (August 4th) in Nature that they have tracked down an elusive population of black holes growing rapidly hidden behind clouds of dust. Their results suggest that most black hole growth takes place in dusty galaxies, solving astronomer's headaches, as until now, the cosmic x-ray background suggested the existence of more growing black holes than they could find. Growing black holes, known as quasars, are some of the brightest objects in the Universe and are seen by the light emitted as gas and dust spiral into the black hole. Quasars are situated in the inner-most regions of galaxies and can consume the equivalent mass of between ten and a thousand stars in one year! Astronomers believe that all quasars are surrounded by a dusty ring which hides them from sight on Earth in about half of cases. However, examining the cosmic x-ray background, which is made up primarily of the emissions from quasars, astronomers realised that there should be many more obscured quasars than currently known. Objects surrounded by dust are hard to see with visible light, so the astronomers looked at infrared wavelengths, which are less likely to be reflected away. Using NASA's Spitzer Space Telescope's First Look Data, they were able to find a new population of obscured quasars. The new quasars have no spectra that can be seen and are thought to be hidden behind the dust of the galaxy itself rather than just a dust ring. The presence of lots of dust in a galaxy indicates that stars are still forming there. The researchers found 21 examples of these lost quasars in a relatively small patch of sky. All of the objects were confirmed as quasars by the National Radio Astronomy Observatory's Very Large Array radio telescope, New Mexico, and the Particle Physics and Astronomy Research Council's William Hershel Telescope on La Palma. Alejo Martinez-Sansigre from the University of Oxford explains We were missing a large population of obscured quasars, which had been inferred from studies at X-ray frequencies. This newly discovered population is large enough to account for the X-ray background, and now we wish to find out why there are more obscured quasars than unobscured ones. From their study, the team believes that there are more quasars hidden by dust than not and that most black holes grow in short, efficient bursts at the heart of growing galaxies. Professor Richard Wade, Chief Executive of the Particle Physics and Astronomy Research Council which supports the University of Oxford Astrophysics group said The new population of Quasars suggest that throughout cosmic history most black holes grow in the heart of dusty active galaxies with stars still forming. Particle Physics and Astronomy Research Council YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hkittsf/M=362335.6886444.7839734.2575449/D=groups/S=1705034827:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124414429/A=2894362/R=0/SIG=138c78jl6/*http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/arts_culture/?source=YAHOOcmpgn=GRPRTP=http://groups.yahoo.com/;What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater?Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good/a./font ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Fw: Trick Plants to Grow on Mars
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Life is getting more and more like SF! http://www.universetoday.com/am/publish/grow_plants_by_relieve_anxiety.html?882005 Trick Plants to Grow on Mars Summary - (Aug 8, 2005) If humans are going to live on Mars, we're going to need to learn how to grow plants in the planet's thin atmosphere, poor soil, severe cold, and total lack of water. This environment will put plants into a severe state of stress and shut down their metabolism, but NASA scientists think they've got strategies to help them cope. By introducing genes from extremophile microbes that can withstand severe changes in environment, scientists are hoping to modify plants so they won't shut down their metabolism in response to stress. Full Story - Anxiety can be a good thing. It alerts you that something may be wrong, that danger may be close. It helps initiate signals that get you ready to act. But, while an occasional bit of anxiety can save your life, constant anxiety causes great harm. The hormones that yank your body to high alert also damage your brain, your immune system and more if they flood through your body all the time. Plants don't get anxious in the same way that humans do. But they do suffer from stress, and they deal with it in much the same way. They produce a chemical signal - superoxide (O2-) - that puts the rest of the plant on high alert. Superoxide, however, is toxic; too much of it will end up harming the plant. This could be a problem for plants on Mars. According to the Vision for Space Exploration, humans will visit and explore Mars in the decades ahead. Inevitably, they'll want to take plants with them. Plants provide food, oxygen, companionship and a patch of green far from home. On Mars, plants would have to tolerate conditions that usually cause them a great deal of stress - severe cold, drought, low air pressure, soils that they didn't evolve for. But plant physiologist Wendy Boss and microbiologist Amy Grunden of North Carolina State University believe they can develop plants that can live in these conditions. Their work is supported by the NASA Institute for Advanced Concepts. Stress management is key: Oddly, there are already Earth creatures that thrive in Mars-like conditions. They're not plants, though. They're some of Earth's earliest life forms-ancient microbes that live at the bottom of the ocean, or deep within Arctic ice. Boss and Grunden hope to produce Mars-friendly plants by borrowing genes from these extreme-loving microbes. And the first genes they're taking are those that will strengthen the plants' ability to deal with stress. Ordinary plants already possess a way to detoxify superoxide, but the researchers believe that a microbe known as Pyrococcus furiosus uses one that may work better. P. furiosus lives in a superheated vent at the bottom of the ocean, but periodically it gets spewed out into cold sea water. So, unlike the detoxification pathways in plants, the ones in P. furiosus function over an astonishing 100+ degree Celsius range in temperature. That's a swing that could match what plants experience in a greenhouse on Mars. The researchers have already introduced a P. furiosus gene into a small, fast-growing plant known as arabidopsis. We have our first little seedlings, says Boss. We'll grow them up and collect seeds to produce a second and then a third generation. In about one and a half to two years, they hope to have plants that each have two copies of the new genes. At that point they'll be able to study how the genes perform: whether they produce functional enzymes, whether they do indeed help the plant survive, or whether they hurt it in some way, instead. Eventually, they hope to pluck genes from other extremophile microbes - genes that will enable the plants to withstand drought, cold, low air pressure, and so on. The goal, of course, is not to develop plants that can merely survive Martian conditions. To be truly useful, the plants will need to thrive: to produce crops, to recycle wastes, and so on. What you want in a greenhouse on Mars, says Boss, is something that will grow and be robust in a marginal environment. In stressful conditions, notes Grunden, plants often partially shut down. They stop growing and reproducing, and instead focus their efforts on staying alive-and nothing more. By inserting microbial genes into the plants, Boss and Grunden hope to change that. By using genes from other sources, explains Grunden, you're tricking the plant, because it can't regulate those genes the way it would regulate its own. We're hoping to [short-circuit] the plant's ability to shut down its own metabolism in response to stress. If Boss and Grunden are successful, their work could make a huge difference to humans living in marginal environments here on Earth. In many third-world countries, says Boss, extending the crop a week or two when the drought comes could give you the final harvest you need to last through winter. If we could increase
[scifinoir2] NASA's Next Leap In Mars Exploration Ready For Launch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] I hope these exciting-sounding missions are successful! http://www.spacedaily.com/news/mars-mro-05h.html MARSDAILY - http://www.marsdaily.com NASA's Next Leap In Mars Exploration Ready For Launch Cape Canaveral FL (SPX) Aug 10, 2005 NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is ready for a morning launch on Thursday, Aug. 11. The spacecraft will arrive at Mars in March 2006 for a mission to understand the planet's water riddles and to advance the exploration of the mysterious red planet. The mission's first launch opportunity window is 4:50 to 6:35 a.m. PDT, Thursday. If the launch is postponed, additional launch windows open daily at different times each morning through August. For trips from Earth to Mars, the planets move into good position for only a short period every 26 months. The best launch position is when Earth is about to overtake Mars in their concentric racing lanes around the Sun. The teams preparing this orbiter and its launch vehicle have done excellent work and kept to schedule. We have a big spacecraft loaded with advanced instruments for inspecting Mars in greater detail than any previous orbiter, and we have the first Atlas V launch vehicle to carry an interplanetary mission. A very potent and exciting combination, said NASA's Mars Exploration Program Director Doug McCuistion. The mission will lift off from Launch Complex 41, Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Fla. It is the first government launch of Lockheed Martin's Atlas V launch vehicle. We're ready to fly, counting down through final procedures, said Chuck Dovale, director for expendable-launch-vehicle launches at NASA Kennedy Space Center, Fla. When the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter arrives in March, it begins a half-year aerobraking process. The spacecraft will gradually adjust the shape of its orbit by using friction from carefully calculated dips into the top of the Martian atmosphere. The mission's primary science phase starts in November 2006. Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter will give us several times more data about Mars than all previous missions combined, said James Graf, project manager for the mission at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena Calif. Researchers will use the data to study the history and distribution of Martian water. Learning more about what has happened to the water will focus searches for possible past or present Martian life. Observations by the orbiter will also support future Mars missions by examining potential landing sites and providing a communications relay between the Martian surface and Earth. The craft can transmit about 10 times as much data per minute as any previous Mars spacecraft. This will serve both to convey detailed observations of the Martian surface, subsurface and atmosphere by the instruments on the orbiter and enable data relay from other landers on the Martian surface to Earth. NASA plans to launch the Phoenix Mars Scout in 2007 to land on the far northern Martian surface. NASA is also developing an advanced rover, the Mars Science Laboratory, for launch in 2009. The mission is managed by JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, Calif., for the NASA Science Mission Directorate. Lockheed Martin Space Systems, Denver, built the spacecraft and is the prime contractor for the project. NASA's Launch Services Program at the Kennedy Space Center is responsible for government engineering oversight of the Atlas V, spacecraft/launch vehicle integration and launch day countdown management. -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hgnmubp/M=362335.6886444.7839734.2575449/D=groups/S=1705034827:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124414435/A=2894362/R=0/SIG=138c78jl6/*http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/arts_culture/?source=YAHOOcmpgn=GRPRTP=http://groups.yahoo.com/;What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater?Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good/a./font ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Awesome galactic photo!
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RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi!
I have to ask...What about those Coke and vanilla ice cream floats??? Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I stand 6'1, weigh about 210 pounds, yet eat very little meat for my size. Everyone expresses surprise at how little meat I eat. I workout a great deal and always seem to have high energy. A few years ago when this weight consisted of more fat (now it's hopefully more muscle with a little fat left) I went cold-turkey vegan for three months. Though I missed the barbecue, Mexican food (beef), and ham with my pancakes, I did surprisingly well. My wife, however, had a terrible time. She could barely last two weeks, and was always craving meat. It wasn't until much later that you and others made me aware of the whole blood type thing. I'm type AB, which according to that Web site you (?) posted, doesn't need much meat. Indeed, AB needs to stay away from a wide range of meat and dairy products. -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M C Jennings Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 14:25 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi! Everybody does not do well as vegetarian(s). Check out your blood type. If you're a type 'A' like I am, vegetarian is the way to go. On the other hand type 'O', the original type, is a meat-eating type. Got it from the original diet. Type 'A' evolved after humans settled down and began to grow stuff. Type 'B' is mostly Asian, and AB is the latest evolved type. VERY sketchy, but since I've started paying attention to my diet according to my blood type, I've had a lot less trouble because of food reactions. When I stopped eating red meat, my cholesterol dropped way down into the normal range even though I still pigged out on some really ugly foods. After I had a recent operation, I let my craving for protein lead me to red meat, and my cholesterol is way up again...I'm getting it back under control .. Maurice ---Original Message--- From: Meta Date: 08/18/05 11:43:22 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, g123curious [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Feeling depressed? Are you disappointed with the current crop of sci- fi TV shows and films? Are you upset with your government and the current state of politics? Don't despair. There is balance in the universe. Things are never as bad as they seem. Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi. This should bring a huge smile to your face: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/08/15/austrian_signs/ Enjoy! George Captain The USS Ronald E. McNair (Boston) I was very surprised at my results. My footprint is 2.1 and planets needed was 1.2. I think the meat eating got me. I've got my family down to a few days a week on average of no meat, but as Dad is a serious carnivore, so far no meat dinner is out of the question. Meta YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group scifinoir2 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2 on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . _ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hoef05v/M=362335.6886444.7839734.2575449/D=groups/S=1705034827:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124416375/A=2894362/R=0/SIG=138c78jl6/*http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/arts_culture/?source=YAHOOcmpgn=GRPRTP=http://groups.yahoo.com/;What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater?Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good/a./font ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi!
I am a vegetarian and my score was still 20. I think my gas guzzling SUV got me. That I drive everywhere alone. There is not really reliable public transportation where I live at. lois M C Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everybody does not do well as vegetarian(s). Check out your blood type. If you're a type 'A' like I am, vegetarian is the way to go. On the other hand type 'O', the original type, is a meat-eating type. Got it from the original diet. Type 'A' evolved after humans settled down and began to grow stuff. Type 'B' is mostly Asian, and AB is the latest evolved type. VERY sketchy, but since I've started paying attention to my diet according to my blood type, I've had a lot less trouble because of food reactions. When I stopped eating red meat, my cholesterol dropped way down into the normal range even though I still pigged out on some really ugly foods. After I had a recent operation, I let my craving for protein lead me to red meat, and my cholesterol is way up again...I'm getting it back under control .. Maurice ---Original Message--- From: Meta Date: 08/18/05 11:43:22 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, g123curious [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Feeling depressed? Are you disappointed with the current crop of sci- fi TV shows and films? Are you upset with your government and the current state of politics? Don't despair. There is balance in the universe. Things are never as bad as they seem. Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi. This should bring a huge smile to your face: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/08/15/austrian_signs/ Enjoy! George Captain The USS Ronald E. McNair (Boston) I was very surprised at my results. My footprint is 2.1 and planets needed was 1.2. I think the meat eating got me. I've got my family down to a few days a week on average of no meat, but as Dad is a serious carnivore, so far no meat dinner is out of the question. Meta YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - - Yahoo! Mail for Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h5ksvp6/M=362335.6886444.7839734.2575449/D=groups/S=1705034827:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124419583/A=2894362/R=0/SIG=138c78jl6/*http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/arts_culture/?source=YAHOOcmpgn=GRPRTP=http://groups.yahoo.com/;What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater?Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good/a./font ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi!
Keith, I'm glad to hear that! I'm guessing your wife might be type 'O'...? The same thing happened to my sister, who is type 'O'. She got really sick when she tried to stop eating meat. She switched to lean cuts, and she's healthy as a...I'm NOT going to say HORSE! LOLLOL! On the other side, type 'O' really should avoid chicken and corn. I don't know why, but it seems to be deathly for most of them... Your blood type is new and relatively rare...cool! Maurice ---Original Message--- From: Keith Johnson Date: 08/18/05 17:47:03 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi! I stand 6'1, weigh about 210 pounds, yet eat very little meat for my size. Everyone expresses surprise at how little meat I eat. I workout a great deal and always seem to have high energy. A few years ago when this weight consisted of more fat (now it's hopefully more muscle with a little fat left) I went cold-turkey vegan for three months. Though I missed the barbecue, Mexican food (beef), and ham with my pancakes, I did surprisingly well. My wife, however, had a terrible time. She could barely last two weeks, and was always craving meat. It wasn't until much later that you and others made me aware of the whole blood type thing. I'm type AB, which according to that Web site you (?) posted, doesn't need much meat. Indeed, AB needs to stay away from a wide range of meat and dairy products. -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M C Jennings Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 14:25 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi! Everybody does not do well as vegetarian(s). Check out your blood type. If you're a type 'A' like I am, vegetarian is the way to go. On the other hand type 'O', the original type, is a meat-eating type. Got it from the original diet. Type 'A' evolved after humans settled down and began to grow stuff. Type 'B' is mostly Asian, and AB is the latest evolved type. VERY sketchy, but since I've started paying attention to my diet according to my blood type, I've had a lot less trouble because of food reactions. When I stopped eating red meat, my cholesterol dropped way down into the normal range even though I still pigged out on some really ugly foods. After I had a recent operation, I let my craving for protein lead me to red meat, and my cholesterol is way up again...I'm getting it back under control ... Maurice ---Original Message--- From: Meta Date: 08/18/05 11:43:22 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, g123curious [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Feeling depressed? Are you disappointed with the current crop of sci- fi TV shows and films? Are you upset with your government and the current state of politics? Don't despair. There is balance in the universe. Things are never as bad as they seem. Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi. This should bring a huge smile to your face: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/08/15/austrian_signs/ Enjoy! George Captain The USS Ronald E. McNair (Boston) I was very surprised at my results. My footprint is 2.1 and planets needed was 1.2. I think the meat eating got me. I've got my family down to a few days a week on average of no meat, but as Dad is a serious carnivore, so far no meat dinner is out of the question. Meta YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group scifinoir2 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2 on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . _ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h5ekj70/M=362335.6886444.7839734.2575449/D=groups/S=1705034827:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124422669/A=2894362/R=0/SIG=138c78jl6/*http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/arts_culture/?source=YAHOOcmpgn=GRPRTP=http://groups.yahoo.com/;What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater?Donate or volunteer in the arts
Re: [scifinoir2] What is your ecological footprint?
I hear you. I've been there, too. Since my resources have increased, I have a tendency to be extremely spend-foolish. At least I was. It took me 20 years to start investing and spending money on the future because I was so into making up for being poor! And you know what? I'm not one bit sorry! LOLLOL! Maurice ---Original Message--- From: Astromancer Date: 08/18/05 18:19:05 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] What is your ecological footprint? Not... M C Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Somaybe being poor is good, huh? Less to waste... ok, maybe not... :o) ---Original Message--- From: Astromancer Date: 08/17/05 23:11:06 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] What is your ecological footprint? Lower is better...Mine was 11...only because I'm poor though... M C Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Mine was 48. What's better, higher or lower? I still missed that at the site... Maurice ---Original Message--- From: Laileana Date: 08/17/05 15:42:29 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] What is your ecological footprint? Mine was 20, interesting website! lois g123curious [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the Star Trek universe, almost all energy and resource consumption issues in the Federation have been solved; except for the tear in subspace due to warp travel. Which makes one ask: how are we doing today versus that ideal? To answer that question, I thought that you might enjoy taking this quiz: http://www.earthday.net/footprint/index.asp Ecological Footprint Quiz It's easy and will take only a couple minutes to complete. CAUTION: THIS QUIZ MAY SURPRISE YOU, SHOCK YOU, OR MAKE YOU THINK. PLEASE REMAIN CALM...BUT NOT TOO CALM!! Mine was a woeful 15. George Captain The USS Ronald E. McNair (Boston) - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - - Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hdlagr5/M=362335.6886444.7839734.2575449/D=groups/S=1705034827:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124422848/A=2894362/R=0/SIG=138c78jl6/*http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/arts_culture/?source=YAHOOcmpgn=GRPRTP=http://groups.yahoo.com/;What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater?Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good/a./font ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi!
20 seems to be a good score, considering mine!!! Yeah, the SUV would get you. I've got a Nissan Maxima. Great gas mileage except when it speeds... Not me, you understand...IT... :o) Maurice PS -- Would you happen to know your blood type? Do you do well as a vegetarian? ---Original Message--- From: Laileana Date: 08/18/05 19:46:31 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi! I am a vegetarian and my score was still 20. I think my gas guzzling SUV got me. That I drive everywhere alone. There is not really reliable public transportation where I live at. lois M C Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everybody does not do well as vegetarian(s). Check out your blood type. If you're a type 'A' like I am, vegetarian is the way to go. On the other hand type 'O', the original type, is a meat-eating type. Got it from the original diet. Type 'A' evolved after humans settled down and began to grow stuff. Type 'B' is mostly Asian, and AB is the latest evolved type. VERY sketchy, but since I've started paying attention to my diet according to my blood type, I've had a lot less trouble because of food reactions. When I stopped eating red meat, my cholesterol dropped way down into the normal range even though I still pigged out on some really ugly foods. After I had a recent operation, I let my craving for protein lead me to red meat, and my cholesterol is way up again...I'm getting it back under control ... Maurice ---Original Message--- From: Meta Date: 08/18/05 11:43:22 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, g123curious [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Feeling depressed? Are you disappointed with the current crop of sci- fi TV shows and films? Are you upset with your government and the current state of politics? Don't despair. There is balance in the universe. Things are never as bad as they seem. Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi. This should bring a huge smile to your face: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/08/15/austrian_signs/ Enjoy! George Captain The USS Ronald E. McNair (Boston) I was very surprised at my results. My footprint is 2.1 and planets needed was 1.2. I think the meat eating got me. I've got my family down to a few days a week on average of no meat, but as Dad is a serious carnivore, so far no meat dinner is out of the question. Meta YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - - Yahoo! Mail for Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a href=http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12h34v9t8/M=362335.6886444.7839734.2575449/D=groups/S=1705034827:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124423314/A=2894362/R=0/SIG=138c78jl6/*http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/arts_culture/?source=YAHOOcmpgn=GRPRTP=http://groups.yahoo.com/;What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater?Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good/a./font ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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You know, I worked in a blood center for several years and this is the first I've heard of this...Is it relatively new research? M C Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Keith, I'm glad to hear that! I'm guessing your wife might be type 'O'...? The same thing happened to my sister, who is type 'O'. She got really sick when she tried to stop eating meat. She switched to lean cuts, and she's healthy as a...I'm NOT going to say HORSE! LOLLOL! On the other side, type 'O' really should avoid chicken and corn. I don't know why, but it seems to be deathly for most of them... Your blood type is new and relatively rare...cool! Maurice ---Original Message--- From: Keith Johnson Date: 08/18/05 17:47:03 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi! I stand 6'1, weigh about 210 pounds, yet eat very little meat for my size. Everyone expresses surprise at how little meat I eat. I workout a great deal and always seem to have high energy. A few years ago when this weight consisted of more fat (now it's hopefully more muscle with a little fat left) I went cold-turkey vegan for three months. Though I missed the barbecue, Mexican food (beef), and ham with my pancakes, I did surprisingly well. My wife, however, had a terrible time. She could barely last two weeks, and was always craving meat. It wasn't until much later that you and others made me aware of the whole blood type thing. I'm type AB, which according to that Web site you (?) posted, doesn't need much meat. Indeed, AB needs to stay away from a wide range of meat and dairy products. -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M C Jennings Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 14:25 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi! Everybody does not do well as vegetarian(s). Check out your blood type. If you're a type 'A' like I am, vegetarian is the way to go. On the other hand type 'O', the original type, is a meat-eating type. Got it from the original diet. Type 'A' evolved after humans settled down and began to grow stuff. Type 'B' is mostly Asian, and AB is the latest evolved type. VERY sketchy, but since I've started paying attention to my diet according to my blood type, I've had a lot less trouble because of food reactions. When I stopped eating red meat, my cholesterol dropped way down into the normal range even though I still pigged out on some really ugly foods. After I had a recent operation, I let my craving for protein lead me to red meat, and my cholesterol is way up again...I'm getting it back under control ... Maurice ---Original Message--- From: Meta Date: 08/18/05 11:43:22 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, g123curious [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Feeling depressed? Are you disappointed with the current crop of sci- fi TV shows and films? Are you upset with your government and the current state of politics? Don't despair. There is balance in the universe. Things are never as bad as they seem. Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi. This should bring a huge smile to your face: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/08/15/austrian_signs/ Enjoy! George Captain The USS Ronald E. McNair (Boston) I was very surprised at my results. My footprint is 2.1 and planets needed was 1.2. I think the meat eating got me. I've got my family down to a few days a week on average of no meat, but as Dad is a serious carnivore, so far no meat dinner is out of the question. Meta YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group scifinoir2 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2 on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . _ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [scifinoir2] What is your ecological footprint?
I am ensuring that I remember every moment of this poverty I am in so that I NEVER return to it...working very hard to get out of it too... M C Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I hear you. I've been there, too. Since my resources have increased, I have a tendency to be extremely spend-foolish. At least I was. It took me 20 years to start investing and spending money on the future because I was so into making up for being poor! And you know what? I'm not one bit sorry! LOLLOL! Maurice ---Original Message--- From: Astromancer Date: 08/18/05 18:19:05 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] What is your ecological footprint? Not... M C Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Somaybe being poor is good, huh? Less to waste... ok, maybe not... :o) ---Original Message--- From: Astromancer Date: 08/17/05 23:11:06 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] What is your ecological footprint? Lower is better...Mine was 11...only because I'm poor though... M C Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Mine was 48. What's better, higher or lower? I still missed that at the site... Maurice ---Original Message--- From: Laileana Date: 08/17/05 15:42:29 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] What is your ecological footprint? Mine was 20, interesting website! lois g123curious [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the Star Trek universe, almost all energy and resource consumption issues in the Federation have been solved; except for the tear in subspace due to warp travel. Which makes one ask: how are we doing today versus that ideal? To answer that question, I thought that you might enjoy taking this quiz: http://www.earthday.net/footprint/index.asp Ecological Footprint Quiz It's easy and will take only a couple minutes to complete. CAUTION: THIS QUIZ MAY SURPRISE YOU, SHOCK YOU, OR MAKE YOU THINK. PLEASE REMAIN CALM...BUT NOT TOO CALM!! Mine was a woeful 15. George Captain The USS Ronald E. McNair (Boston) - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - - Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- font face=arial size=-1a
RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi!
Ha-ha! The one addiction I have is to ice cream. I try very hard to only eat ice cream on the weekends. Try to leave hamburgers and stuff to the weekends too. That usually works, unless I start the weekend early. -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Astromancer Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 19:53 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi! I have to ask...What about those Coke and vanilla ice cream floats??? Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I stand 6'1, weigh about 210 pounds, yet eat very little meat for my size. Everyone expresses surprise at how little meat I eat. I workout a great deal and always seem to have high energy. A few years ago when this weight consisted of more fat (now it's hopefully more muscle with a little fat left) I went cold-turkey vegan for three months. Though I missed the barbecue, Mexican food (beef), and ham with my pancakes, I did surprisingly well. My wife, however, had a terrible time. She could barely last two weeks, and was always craving meat. It wasn't until much later that you and others made me aware of the whole blood type thing. I'm type AB, which according to that Web site you (?) posted, doesn't need much meat. Indeed, AB needs to stay away from a wide range of meat and dairy products. -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M C Jennings Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 14:25 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi! Everybody does not do well as vegetarian(s). Check out your blood type. If you're a type 'A' like I am, vegetarian is the way to go. On the other hand type 'O', the original type, is a meat-eating type. Got it from the original diet. Type 'A' evolved after humans settled down and began to grow stuff. Type 'B' is mostly Asian, and AB is the latest evolved type. VERY sketchy, but since I've started paying attention to my diet according to my blood type, I've had a lot less trouble because of food reactions. When I stopped eating red meat, my cholesterol dropped way down into the normal range even though I still pigged out on some really ugly foods. After I had a recent operation, I let my craving for protein lead me to red meat, and my cholesterol is way up again...I'm getting it back under control .. Maurice ---Original Message--- From: Meta Date: 08/18/05 11:43:22 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, g123curious [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Feeling depressed? Are you disappointed with the current crop of sci- fi TV shows and films? Are you upset with your government and the current state of politics? Don't despair. There is balance in the universe. Things are never as bad as they seem. Reality is often more interesting than sci-fi. This should bring a huge smile to your face: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/08/15/austrian_signs/ Enjoy! George Captain The USS Ronald E. McNair (Boston) I was very surprised at my results. My footprint is 2.1 and planets needed was 1.2. I think the meat eating got me. I've got my family down to a few days a week on average of no meat, but as Dad is a serious carnivore, so far no meat dinner is out of the question. Meta YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group scifinoir2 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2 on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . _ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS *Visit your group scifinoir2 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2 on the web. *To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the
Re: [scifinoir2] What is your ecological footprint?
You will. One thing that is helping me is Psycho-Cybernetics...actually the New Psycho-Cybernetics. The main premise is that nothing will change or get better for anyone until the person's self-image improves...I'm finding that, as a people, WE have huge issues with self-image. The dominant culture bombards us with messages that their image is the best. We have very few images of ourselves that are positive, so we probably need all the help we can get to improve ours. I have had some revelations about myself during this process... Maurice ---Original Message--- From: Astromancer Date: 08/18/05 21:19:40 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] What is your ecological footprint? I am ensuring that I remember every moment of this poverty I am in so that I NEVER return to it...working very hard to get out of it too... M C Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I hear you. I've been there, too. Since my resources have increased, I have a tendency to be extremely spend-foolish. At least I was. It took me 20 years to start investing and spending money on the future because I was so into making up for being poor! And you know what? I'm not one bit sorry! LOLLOL! Maurice ---Original Message--- From: Astromancer Date: 08/18/05 18:19:05 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] What is your ecological footprint? Not... M C Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Somaybe being poor is good, huh? Less to waste... ok, maybe not... :o) ---Original Message--- From: Astromancer Date: 08/17/05 23:11:06 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] What is your ecological footprint? Lower is better...Mine was 11...only because I'm poor though... M C Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Mine was 48. What's better, higher or lower? I still missed that at the site... Maurice ---Original Message--- From: Laileana Date: 08/17/05 15:42:29 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] What is your ecological footprint? Mine was 20, interesting website! lois g123curious [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the Star Trek universe, almost all energy and resource consumption issues in the Federation have been solved; except for the tear in subspace due to warp travel. Which makes one ask: how are we doing today versus that ideal? To answer that question, I thought that you might enjoy taking this quiz: http://www.earthday.net/footprint/index.asp Ecological Footprint Quiz It's easy and will take only a couple minutes to complete. CAUTION: THIS QUIZ MAY SURPRISE YOU, SHOCK YOU, OR MAKE YOU THINK. PLEASE REMAIN CALM...BUT NOT TOO CALM!! Mine was a woeful 15. George Captain The USS Ronald E. McNair (Boston) - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - - Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group scifinoir2 on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of
