Re: [scifinoir2] Night Watch/ Day Watch- Seen them?

2007-12-29 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Thanks for the review. I just rented them

Amy Harlib wrote:
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 Saw both Night Watch and Day Watch and really enjoy them as Russian dark 
 fantasy adventures.  The Russian aspect is fascinating.
 Definitely worth a look and I am looking forward to the third film.  I have 
 not yet read the books which have been translated into English.  The writer 
 of the books is also the co-screenwriter which is good.
 Cheers,
 Amy


   
 Looking for some flix to rent on Netflix over the weekend.  I just saw a
 preview for Day Watch, that was interesting.  Has anyone hear of it or
 its prequel Night Watch.  Anyone read th trilogy.  It got some good
 reviews.  I never heard of them prior to seeing the preview.  I think it
 came out while I was in Mexico.  NY Times describes it as Star Wars
 Meets the Vampires in Moscow.

 See the plot summaries below.

 Nightwatch - This first installment of the trilogy based on the
 best-selling science fiction novels by Russian writer Sergei Lukyanenko
 plays upon the tension between light and dark, pitting the superhuman
 Night Watch patrollers (known as the Others) against the shadowed
 forces of the night. But the biggest fear of all stems from the lines of
 an ancient prophecy, which warns of a renegade Other whose betrayal
 could bring chaos to the land.


 Daywatch - Anton (Konstantin Khabensky) finds himself in the middle of a
 mythic conflict between the forces of Light and Dark in this sequel to
 Night Watch, the surprise 2004 hit from Russia. To protect his son, who
 has come under the control of the dark side, Anton must seek an ancient
 artifact. But the powerful relic threatens to upset the uneasy peace
 between the two sides and puts Moscow at risk for a devastating
 cataclysm in this supernatural thriller.



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RE: SPOILERS !!!!Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Saw 28 Weeks on DVD- Plot Holes, Plot Holes ....

2007-12-29 Thread Reece Jennings
HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
 
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:26 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: SPOILERS Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Saw 28 Weeks on DVD- Plot
Holes, Plot Holes 



Thinking about this, James, maybe she was simply providing a graphic example
of your statement. You *asked* for an Army of One, and she gave it to you...

James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:james%40jameslandrith.com .com
wrote: I remember looking at my former Army officer wife during the movie
when
things were spirally out of control and saying something about it figures
and then made an off the cuff comment about an Army of One. Then I regained
consciousness three hours later..

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Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 1:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
Subject: RE: SPOILERS Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Saw 28 Weeks on DVD- Plot
Holes, Plot Holes 

I hear you, Devildog...If this is the movie I think it is, it took place in
the UK...That would make it a UN base, right? That's usually Army and Air
Force territory...After WWII, with the exception of Embassy duty, the
Marines have been traditionally posted in the Far East...So the story is at
least accurate in that aspect...

James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:james%40jameslandrith.com .com
mailto:james%40jameslandrith.com 
wrote: Yeah, I saw it as well. I recall calling bullshit at several
points.

However, I did notice that there were no Marines involved in that
unfortunate zombie debacle on the Isle of Dogs. J

(sends OOH-RAH in general direction of a Marine in Chicagoland)

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[scifinoir2] SF Movies coming Up in 2008

2007-12-29 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
The following is a list of Speculative Fiction Movies Coming Out on 
2008.  Which ones are you looking forward to?  Which ones do you think 
will hit and which ones do you think will flop?

One Missed Call
U.S. Opening Date:January 4.
A chain of people receive terrifying cell phone messages--actual 
recordings of their own horrifying last moments before dying.

In The Name Of The King: A Dungeon Siege Tale
U.S. Opening Date: 11 January 2008
Jason Statham must find his kidnapped wife and avenge the death of his 
son, amidst the backdrop of war in the Kingdom of Ehb.

Cloverfield
U.S. Opening Date:January 18
A group of friends document their attempt to survive when a monster the 
size of a skyscraper descends upon New York City.

Teeth
U.S. Opening Date:January 18
A high school student discovers she has a bizarre physical advantage 
when she becomes the object of male violence.

Untraceable
Opening January 25, 2008
Within the FBI, there exists a division dedicated to investigating and 
prosecuting criminals on the internet.  A tech-savvy internet predator 
is displaying his graphic murders on his own website--and the fate of 
each of his tormented captives is left in the hands on the public:

Jumper
U.S. Opening date: 15 February 2008
A teenager (Hayden Christensen, Young Darth Vader) discovers he can 
teleport from one place to another and uses this ability to search for 
the man he believes killed his mother .

The Spiderwick Chronicles
U.S. Opening Date: 15 February 2008
The quest for the next Harry Potter/Narnia franchise continues

   The Signal
U.S. Opening Date: 22 February 2008
People being turned into homicidal psychos by their cell phones? So it’s 
a documentary then

Babylon A.D.
U.S. Opening Date: 29 February 2008
Vin Diesel's upcoming sci-fi actioner looks kinda cheap

The Water Horse: Legend of the Deep
U.S. Opening Date: 29 February 2008
Old-fashioned tale about a boy and his, um, sea monster

  10,000 B.C.
U.S. Opening Date: 7 March 2008
Latest Roland Emmerich special effects epic

The Forbidden Kingdom
Release Date:
18 April 2008
An American teenager who is obsessed with Hong Kong cinema and kung-fu 
classics makes an extraordinary discovery in a Chinatown pawnshop: the 
legendary stick weapon of the Chinese sage and warrior, the Monkey King. 
With the lost relic in hand, the teenager unexpectedly finds himself 
traveling back to ancient China to join a crew of warriors from martial 
arts lore on a dangerous quest to free the imprisoned Monkey King. Stars 
Jet Li and Jackie Chan

  Iron Man
U.S. Opening date: 2 May 2008
Tony Stark, a billionaire industrialist and inventor, is kidnapped and 
forced by his captors to design and build a weapon. Secretly, Stark 
instead creates a mechanized suit of armor and escapes. Returning to the 
U.S., he discovers a dangerous plot and becomes Iron Man to stop it

  The Chronicles Of Narnia: Prince Caspian
U.S. Opening Date: 16 May 2008
Time flies much faster in the magical world of Narnia than it does in 
our world, so the next time the Pevensey siblings (Peter, Susan, Edmund 
and Lucy) travel there from an English train station, they find 
themselves on an island during a time when Narnia is ruled by the Wicked 
King Miraz. The Pevenseys ally themselves with the young Prince Caspian, 
and the mighty lion Aslan, in an effort to revive Narnia's past and 
overthrow the evil king.

Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
U.S. Opening Date: 22 May 2008
Considering that its star Harrison Ford is 64 years old a better title 
might be Indiana Jones and the Pensioner’s Discount

Starship Dave
U.S. Opening Date: 30 May 2008
Eddie Murphy's upcoming sci-fi comedy has a cool idea behind it

  Speed Racer
U.S. Opening date: 13 June 2008
Follows the racing exploits of Speed Racer, a charming young driver 
lucky enough to be behind the wheel of the Mach 5, a super car that 
can make amazing jumps, go underwater, and other tricks using amazing 
gadgets

  The Incredible Hulk
U.S. Opening date: 13 June 2008
The hunt for the Hulk is escalating, even as Dr. Banner thinks he might 
be closer to finding a cure for his dark (green) curse. The screen won't 
feature just one big green monster, however, as the Hulk's enemy this 
time around will be the Abomination, another gamma-radiated creature.

The Dark Knight
U.S. Opening date: 18 June 2008
The follow-up to Batman Begins, The Dark Knight reunites director 
Christopher Nolan and star Christian Bale, who reprises the role of 
Batman/Bruce Wayne.

Wall•E
U.S. Opening date: 27 June 2008
Pixar's upcoming flick about a cute robot. Some wags have called it 
Short Circuit 3,

Hancock
Release Date: 2 July 2008
A hard-living superhero (Smith) who has fallen out of favor with the 
public enters into a questionable relationship with the wife (Theron) of 
the public relations professional (Bateman) who's trying to repair his 
image.

The Dark Knight
Release Date: July 18
Batman raises the stakes in his war on crime. With the 

RE: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-29 Thread Reece Jennings
I think we  have the basis for a new political party!
 
The Contrarian Party...
 
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:26 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield



Well then I'm one too, because I agree with much that you say

KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote:
 true, or maybe i'm just a contrarian!

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com 

 Maybe the likelihood of the movie earning more money is raised with 
 those demographics - or maybe our culture is just youth obsessed

 KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote:
 
 and 18 -25 year olds only watch movies staring others their age? Wasn't
that way when I was 18 - 25? That's up there with boys only watch movies
about boys and whites only watch movies staring whites (and Will Smith)

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Mike Street streetforce1@ mailto:streetforce1%40gmail.com
gmail.com 
 This pretty much started with the 80's moves that started Molly
 Ringwald and the likes in the Brat Pack. Those movies where so popular
 that more and more of them started to be turned out as marketers saw a
 new market as the baby boomers started getting older and older.

 We can move forward to Gen X, Gen Y, and now the MySpace/YouTube Gen
 where all of the money is being made and spent. It all has to do with
 where you should be spending your ad dollars at. Right now the big
 spend is all for online social media and that demographic is mainly
 18-25.

 On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 AM, KeithBJohnson@
mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote:

 


 see, that's what confuses me. When i was younger, i of course related to
 films and TV shows that had people close to my age. But at the same
time, i
 absolutely enjoyed movies and shows that had people significantly older
than
 i was then. i didn't have an issue when i was 19 watching a James Bond
who
 was clearly in his late '30s or early '40s. Didn't complain about Kirk
being
 34-which is old to some---when i was only 14. Never said McCoy is too
old
 about Bones. Even in the comic world back in the day, the typical age
for
 many superheroes was around 28, some a bit younger like Peter Parker,
some a
 bit older like Stephen Strange or Reed Richards. But still, that's darn
 close to 30 and i never had a problem with it. Now, the likes of Alias,
 Buffy, and others seems to focus more on kids 18 - 25, with 25 being at
the
 high end. And contrast Wonder Woman, where Lynda Carter was 25 when the
 series started, with Joss Whedon's goal when he was on the project to
craft
 a Wonder Woman barel
 y out of her teens.

 I went back and looked at classic action and scifi films from back in
the
 day. From The Towering Inferno and The Poseidon Adventure to The
Omega
 Man and Bullitt. In many, many of those old films--which set the
standard
 for their day--the stars were typically middle-aged. I found ranges from
 early 30s on the low end to mid-50s in the likes of Ernest Borgnine and
Paul
 Newman. There were of course youngsters, but even the lesser known stars
in
 these films are about a decade older than the characters Abrams and crew
 seem to favor.

 So what changed? Is it just the likes of Abrams and Joss Whedon who love
 the younger stars? Is Hollywood more focused on younger stars because
kids
 have more disposable income nowadays and thus support movies with these
 characters more?


 -- Original message --
 From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com
aladvantage.com
 ain't gonna happen. It seems to me, he is keeping to the studio
 demographic formula applied in Star Trek. Maybe some of the supporting
 characters will be a little older. Let's face it. Most of us over 28
 are not going to the theatre every week, where the initial bulk of a
 studios money is made.

 KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote:

 
 yeah, though i still wonder, why is Abrams so fascinated with young

 
 people. all the main stars in Cloverfield seem to be in their early to
 mid-20s. Even the little blurb I read describes it as Five young New
 Yorkers. Hopefully, like with Lost, there'll be some old fogies my
age
 who get meaty roles!

 
 -- Original message --
 From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)

 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com

RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

2007-12-29 Thread Reece Jennings
Whoa! (Backing slowly towards the door)
 
 Maurice Jennings
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:29 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(



Here is weird. I'm all of the above, standing in the corner watching 
(big time voyeur), sometimes the life of the party or having fun dancing 
off in my own world. To make things worse, I do not know who is coming 
out. That is what I call weird. 

Reece Jennings wrote:
 I hear you. I'm not a crowd/life of the party type person either. I'm
 a party voyeur...
 
 Maurice Jennings
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
On
 Behalf Of Martin
 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:50 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(



 No, I'm eternally uncomfy in public sitches. I'm the guy who makes one
round
 to make himself known to those I want to be known to, then finds a corner
to
 cower in for the remainder of the party. Forty-three years of life it's
 taken me to find three people like myself.

 Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com
yahoo.com
 wrote: Do you still, Howard? I mean Martin? It seems to me that you'd be
the
 one who is comfortable in any crowd. Are you comfortable but feeling
 different from others? 

 I revel in being that way...now...LOL!

 Maurice Jennings
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
 On
 Behalf Of Martin
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:00 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

 Forgot to add on the literal duck out of water premise, which I
sympathize
 with daily. I've always felt out of place, even among the Technonerdati.

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: Wow!
 Thank you for making yourself vulnerable and opening up. Now the 
 question you had to anticipate... why?

 Martin wrote:
 
 Tracey, to put you at ease, I'm going to reveal one of my deepest,
darkest
 
 movie secrets.
 
 I love Howard the Duck.

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote:
 
 Keith

 I know you are disappointed in me, but for mindless fluff sitting in the 
 comfort of my home, I liked the first one. :(

 Martin wrote:

 
 But...but...I *wanna* throw away my money! Mindless stupididty is my
 
 milieu!
 
 KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: I
 
 really hope none of you fine people contributed any ducats to making
 National Treasure 2 the number one movie over the Christmas weekend. I
 tried to watch the first movie a couple of years ago, on a Sunday night,
as
 background noise while I cleaned up. I turned it off with 45 minutes to
go.
 Silly concepts, preposterous occurrences, autopilot acting by Cage and
 Voight (just show me the money!!). Not fun or clever or engaging at all.
 Despite what some think of me, i'm not a movie snob, don't have a thing
 against low brow humour (saw Knocked Up recently and loved it) or
mindless
 action flicks. Im the guy who will watch The Warriors every single time
 it airs (much to my wife's consternation!) And Face Off? Pure cinematic
 pleasure of adrenalin, over-the-top acting, and things that go boom!.
Love
 that flick.
 
 But National Treasure sucked, and I hear the sequel is even dumber in
 
 plot. Mount Rushmore built just to hide a city of gold. A secret book
passed
 down from one President to another that details, among other things, the
 truth of what's kept in Area 51? Brotherrr!
 
 Please tell me none of you 

RE: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-29 Thread Reece Jennings
YES
 
 Maurice Jennings
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 7:35 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield



Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one
common element.

Hideous eight-legged creatures.

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: I
found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to 
know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm 
actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used 
to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with 
the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly 
too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was 
for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. 

Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of 
this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, 
so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film 
school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, 
shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for 
the character development as well as the chills and thrills

I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my 
Netflix que

I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic 
bomb experience. But I have no idea

KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote:
 thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know
what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having
come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait
until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll
read some more about the movie, though.

 I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something
that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of
truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome,
frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond
Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many
giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant
monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters
to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or
plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being
afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. 

 I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box
office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million
worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 1000
Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four
million overseas.

 Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves
or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? 

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com 
 Try these sites from imdb

 There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, 
 through which you can find other characters in the movie. 
 Rob--http://www.myspace. http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins
com/robbyhawkins

 www.jamieandteddy.com http://www.jamieand http://www.jamieandteddy.com
teddy.com In September 2007 
 this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of 
 the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video 
 diary for her boyfriend. The password for the video is jllovesth. There 
 are 5 videos so far.

 www.theblairgodzillaproject.com http://www.theblair
http://www.theblairgodzillaproject.com godzillaproject.com 
 is another new site that shows the characters and films that inspired 
 J.J. Abrams to make the film.

 http://www.slusho. http://www.slusho.jp/. jp/. This site is designed to
appear as a commercial 
 website about a fictitious beverage called 'Slusho' that J.J. Abrams has 
 so far included in both Lost and Alias.

 Mike Street wrote:
 
 try researching Slusho and you'll find out a lot more of what
 Cloverfield is all about. There is a lot going on with the movie and
 there are several fake MySpace pages which info on the movie it all
 ties into an elaborate online game millions are playing right in
 online and offline

 On Dec 27, 2007 9:47 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

2007-12-29 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Just think of my poor husband.  He is married to all of us.  I can 
control it, but I can not control being outgoing when I'm at parties, 
being photographed, giving speeches, or doing interviews for the press. 
  That is when my shy wanted to come out. ( Since I got sick, I do not 
have to worry about that) .

Reece Jennings wrote:
 Whoa! (Backing slowly towards the door)
  
  Maurice Jennings
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 From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:29 PM
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(



 Here is weird. I'm all of the above, standing in the corner watching 
 (big time voyeur), sometimes the life of the party or having fun dancing 
 off in my own world. To make things worse, I do not know who is coming 
 out. That is what I call weird. 

 Reece Jennings wrote:
   
 I hear you. I'm not a crowd/life of the party type person either. I'm
 a party voyeur...

 Maurice Jennings
 Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
 KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
 Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho
 
 http://www.legacyhomesavers.com mesavers.com
   
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
 On
   
 Behalf Of Martin
 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:50 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(



 No, I'm eternally uncomfy in public sitches. I'm the guy who makes one
 
 round
   
 to make himself known to those I want to be known to, then finds a corner
 
 to
   
 cower in for the remainder of the party. Forty-three years of life it's
 taken me to find three people like myself.

 Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com
 
 yahoo.com
   
 wrote: Do you still, Howard? I mean Martin? It seems to me that you'd be
 
 the
   
 one who is comfortable in any crowd. Are you comfortable but feeling
 different from others? 

 I revel in being that way...now...LOL!

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
 On
 Behalf Of Martin
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:00 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

 Forgot to add on the literal duck out of water premise, which I
 
 sympathize
   
 with daily. I've always felt out of place, even among the Technonerdati.

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: Wow!
 Thank you for making yourself vulnerable and opening up. Now the 
 question you had to anticipate... why?

 Martin wrote:

 
 Tracey, to put you at ease, I'm going to reveal one of my deepest,
   
 darkest
   
 movie secrets.

 
 I love Howard the Duck.

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   
 mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote:

 
 Keith

 I know you are disappointed in me, but for mindless fluff sitting in the 
 comfort of my home, I liked the first one. :(

 Martin wrote:


   
 But...but...I *wanna* throw away my money! Mindless stupididty is my

 
 milieu!

 
 KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: I

 
 really hope none of you fine people contributed any ducats to making
 National Treasure 2 the number one movie over the Christmas weekend. I
 tried to watch the first movie a couple of years ago, on a Sunday night,
 
 as
   
 background noise while I cleaned up. I turned it off with 45 minutes to
 
 go.
   
 Silly concepts, preposterous occurrences, autopilot acting by Cage and
 Voight (just show me the money!!). Not fun or clever or engaging at all.
 Despite what some think of me, i'm not a movie snob, don't have a thing
 against low brow humour (saw Knocked Up recently and loved it) or
 
 

Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

2007-12-29 Thread Astromancer
Me three! I really wish we could have some type of get together...

Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  As do I.

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even 
when I fit in I often feel like I'm an observer. I often think of 
myself like a chameleon. I used to wish we were big enough to have 
chapters so we could meet in person. Still do.

Astromancer wrote:
 You aren't alone, dude

 Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forgot to add on the literal duck out of 
 water premise, which I sympathize with daily. I've always felt out of place, 
 even among the Technonerdati.

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Wow! Thank you for making yourself vulnerable and opening up. Now the 
 question you had to anticipate... why?

 Martin wrote:
 
 Tracey, to put you at ease, I'm going to reveal one of my deepest, darkest 
 movie secrets.

 I love Howard the Duck.

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Keith

 I know you are disappointed in me, but for mindless fluff sitting in the 
 comfort of my home, I liked the first one. :(

 Martin wrote:

 
 But...but...I *wanna* throw away my money! Mindless stupididty is my milieu!

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really hope none of you fine people contributed 
 any ducats to making National Treasure 2 the number one movie over the 
 Christmas weekend. I tried to watch the first movie a couple of years ago, 
 on a Sunday night, as background noise while I cleaned up. I turned it off 
 with 45 minutes to go. Silly concepts, preposterous occurrences, autopilot 
 acting by Cage and Voight (just show me the money!!). Not fun or clever 
 or engaging at all. Despite what some think of me, i'm not a movie snob, 
 don't have a thing against low brow humour (saw Knocked Up recently and 
 loved it) or mindless action flicks. Im the guy who will watch The 
 Warriors every single time it airs (much to my wife's consternation!) And 
 Face Off? Pure cinematic pleasure of adrenalin, over-the-top acting, and 
 things that go boom!. Love that flick.
 But National Treasure sucked, and I hear the sequel is even dumber in plot. 
 Mount Rushmore built just to hide a city of gold. A secret book passed down 
 from one President to another that details, among other things, the truth 
 of what's kept in Area 51? Brotherrr!

 Please tell me none of you watched it?

 

 National Treasure sleighs Christmas box office 
 Tue Dec 25, 2:27 PM ET 
 Nicolas Cage's adventure sequel National Treasure: Book of Secrets raced 
 to $65 million during its first five days of release across North America, 
 distributor Walt Disney Pictures said on Tuesday.
 The tally consists of actual sales for the four days since the film opened 
 last Friday, and a Christmas day estimate. Final sales data will be issued 
 on Wednesday.
 Through December 24, the film had also earned $27.5 million in 17 
 international markets, mostly in Asia. The critically maligned sequel to 
 the 2004 smash National Treasure stars Cage as a treasure hunter who 
 flies around the world trying to solve an ancient puzzle related to 
 Lincoln's assassination.
 Will Smith's sci-fi thriller I Am Legend was No. 2 with five-day sales of 
 $47.5 million, taking its 12-day haul to $150.8 million, said Warner Bros. 
 Pictures.
 Because of the holiday, data for many films were incomplete. Twentieth 
 Century Fox reported a four-day tally of $32.8 million for its surprise hit 
 Alvin and the Chipmunks, saying it was impossible to estimate Christmas 
 Day sales. After 11 days, the kids film has earned $88.7 million.
 The fact-based political comedy Charlie Wilson's War earned $14.75 
 million, and the Johnny Depp musical Sweeney Todd $12.75 million, both 
 after five days. Their respective studios, Universal Pictures and 
 DreamWorks Pictures, warned that the Christmas Day components were rough 
 guesses.
 The box office jury is still out on Charlie Wilson, a high-profile 
 vehicle starring Tom Hanks and Julia Roberts, which is playing in twice as 
 many theaters as Sweeney Todd, which DreamWorks co-produced with Warner 
 Bros.
 Further down the rankings, P.S. I Love You had earned $9.1 million in its 
 first five days. After a low-key opening weekend, Warner Bros. said it 
 hoped more women would turn out in force for the Hilary Swank tearjerker 
 now that Christmas-related chores are behind them.
 The musical spoof Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story reported a four-day haul 
 of $4.7 million. Distributor Columbia Pictures did not have a Christmas Day 
 estimate for the box office disappointment.
 Midfield rankings will change when final data are issued Wednesday because 
 they will include sales for three Christmas Day releases: the action sequel 
 Alien vs. Predator: Requiem, the Denzel Washington drama The Great 
 Debaters, and the family fantasy The Water Horse: Legend of the Deep.
 Walt Disney Pictures is a unit of Walt Disney Co. 

RE: SPOILERS !!!!Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Saw 28 Weeks on DVD- Plot Holes, Plot Holes ....

2007-12-29 Thread Astromancer
LMAO...He has a point

Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Thinking about this, James, maybe 
she was simply providing a graphic example of your statement. You *asked* for 
an Army of One, and she gave it to you...

James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember looking at my former Army 
officer wife during the movie when
things were spirally out of control and saying something about it figures
and then made an off the cuff comment about an Army of One. Then I regained
consciousness three hours later..

From: Astromancer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 1:36 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: SPOILERS Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Saw 28 Weeks on DVD- Plot
Holes, Plot Holes 

I hear you, Devildog...If this is the movie I think it is, it took place in
the UK...That would make it a UN base, right? That's usually Army and Air
Force territory...After WWII, with the exception of Embassy duty, the
Marines have been traditionally posted in the Far East...So the story is at
least accurate in that aspect...

James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:james%40jameslandrith.com 
wrote: Yeah, I saw it as well. I recall calling bullshit at several
points.

However, I did notice that there were no Marines involved in that
unfortunate zombie debacle on the Isle of Dogs. J

(sends OOH-RAH in general direction of a Marine in Chicagoland)

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RE: SPOILERS !!!!Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Saw 28 Weeks on DVD- Plot Holes, Plot Holes ....

2007-12-29 Thread Astromancer
Ahem...husband...in my case, ex-husband...

Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Am I the only person savoring these 
continual insights into the mind of a Marine?

Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah...I would think somewhere along the 
line you would realize that most of what was said about the fairer sex were 
myths...and the truisms updated and equalized buy such things and guns bats, 
kitchen utensils, etcLet me guess...attack direction came from up and 
behind you?

James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember looking at my former Army 
officer wife during the movie when
things were spirally out of control and saying something about it figures
and then made an off the cuff comment about an Army of One. Then I regained
consciousness three hours later..

From: Astromancer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 1:36 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: SPOILERS Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Saw 28 Weeks on DVD- Plot
Holes, Plot Holes 

I hear you, Devildog...If this is the movie I think it is, it took place in
the UK...That would make it a UN base, right? That's usually Army and Air
Force territory...After WWII, with the exception of Embassy duty, the
Marines have been traditionally posted in the Far East...So the story is at
least accurate in that aspect...

James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:james%40jameslandrith.com 
wrote: Yeah, I saw it as well. I recall calling bullshit at several
points.

However, I did notice that there were no Marines involved in that
unfortunate zombie debacle on the Isle of Dogs. J

(sends OOH-RAH in general direction of a Marine in Chicagoland)

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say this once; if you talk too much or ask too many questions, you might say 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Omega MAn

2007-12-29 Thread Astromancer
NRA...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  no, refresh my memory on that one...

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Pondering on this, Keith, I'm reminded that, in a sense, Heston has taken this 
into real life.

From my cold dead fingers. Ring a bell?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've only seen The Omega Man on network TV, so that 
scene was cut. I remember liking the movie, and shaking my head at the ending. 
You ever notice how many times in movies Heston died at the end, but in a 
noble, martyr-like way? In Omega man, he looks like nothing so much as Christ 
on the Cross at the end. He also had a bloody, dramatic death in one of the 
Planet of the Apes films. Indeed, isn't he the one who setoff the 
Earth-destroying nuke in his death throes? And then there's El Cid, where he 
dies at the end, yet is tied to his horse so that his body, riding onward on 
the battlefield, can continue to inspire his men. My wife and I always laugh at 
Heston in such roles...

-- Original message -- 
From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
I am a big fan of Omega Man. The late, great Rosalind Cash plays 
the sassy black girl. Although she remains too thin for my taste, in 
1971, when I was fifteen years old, her brief nude scene sho nuff ruled 
my world. 

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I watched Omega Man and The Last Man on Earth yesterday via Netflix.
 All very good movies. I like Omega Man cause of the sassy blk girl
 Lisa. But I can see how they mashed both versions of the movies
 together to create the Will Smith movie. But see how I Am Legend is
 much more developed then the previous versions.
 
 If anyone is interested there is also a good movie that comes with The
 Last Man on Earth DVD called Panic in Year Zero. It was a really good
 film. No zombies but a good look at how if bombs hit people will go
 nuts.


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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Omega MAn

2007-12-29 Thread Martin
When Heston was president of the NRA, he gave a now-famous/infamous speech with 
regard to his right to keep and bear arms.

Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   NRA...
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  no, refresh my memory on that one...
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Pondering on this, Keith, I'm reminded that, in a sense, Heston has taken this 
into real life.
 
 From my cold dead fingers. Ring a bell?
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've only seen The Omega Man on network TV, so that 
scene was cut. I remember liking the movie, and shaking my head at the ending. 
You ever notice how many times in movies Heston died at the end, but in a 
noble, martyr-like way? In Omega man, he looks like nothing so much as Christ 
on the Cross at the end. He also had a bloody, dramatic death in one of the 
Planet of the Apes films. Indeed, isn't he the one who setoff the 
Earth-destroying nuke in his death throes? And then there's El Cid, where he 
dies at the end, yet is tied to his horse so that his body, riding onward on 
the battlefield, can continue to inspire his men. My wife and I always laugh at 
Heston in such roles...
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 I am a big fan of Omega Man. The late, great Rosalind Cash plays 
 the sassy black girl. Although she remains too thin for my taste, in 
 1971, when I was fifteen years old, her brief nude scene sho nuff ruled 
 my world. 
 
 ~rave!
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  I watched Omega Man and The Last Man on Earth yesterday via Netflix.
  All very good movies. I like Omega Man cause of the sassy blk girl
  Lisa. But I can see how they mashed both versions of the movies
  together to create the Will Smith movie. But see how I Am Legend is
  much more developed then the previous versions.
  
  If anyone is interested there is also a good movie that comes with The
  Last Man on Earth DVD called Panic in Year Zero. It was a really good
  film. No zombies but a good look at how if bombs hit people will go
  nuts.
 
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] SF Movies coming Up in 2008

2007-12-29 Thread Martin
One Missed Call- sums it up perfectly.

In The Name of the King- it'll probably flop, but I'll pay to see Statham go 
medieval on someone's a$$. (pun fully intended)

Cloverfield- the young'uns will make it happen.

Teeth- doubt it'll have any bite.

Untraaceable- I think it's got a great chance, in the Internet-voyeur era.

Jumper- another one for the kids. If it's done right, it might pick up some 
of the adults who read the book.

The Spiderwick Chronicles- my niece and her friends have been talking this 
one up since it was announced last year. Based on that, I'll say yes.

The Signal- One Missed Call again. Cancellation effect.

Babylon A.D- no. Not even with the Big Diesel in front.

The Water Horse- I've heard that this one's not really even for kids, that it 
as a few bits that might spook the younger kids. If my scuttlebutt is right, 
then I think it'll draw the first weekend, then tail off as word of mouth gets 
out.

10,000 B.C.- only if Raquel does a cameo.

The Forbidden Kingdom- it might recover its money, but I don't see it going 
big big big.

Iron Man- if it doesn't do well, it'll be because they refused to let the 
Technonerdati in the door.

Prince Caspian- ditto. I wasn't expecting much out of the first Narnia movie, 
and was pleasantly surprised.

Indiana Jones IV- if they offer Geritol at the door, they might recoup. Not 
even *I'm* game for this. And I *hate* Nazis...

Starship Dave- no. Just no. No, I take that back. It'll probably do well, but 
I won't be there.

Speed Racer- yes. Kids like retro. Adults like retro, too.

The Incredible Hulk- doubt t. People's memories are short, but their senses 
of smell are long, and The Hulk stunk the joint up but good.

The Dark Knight- try to keep 'em out of the theaters. I dare you.

Wallace to quote the eminent scientist Hubert Farnsworth, Hu-WHA?

Hancock- probably. But I'm not sold on it, especially after seeing the 
trailer. Just me and my weirdness.

Hellboy 2- yes. Yes.YES.

The Mummy 3- no. No. NO. To paraphrase, once was enough.

Jurassic Park IV- see above.

The Day The Earth Stood Still'- Klaatu. Barada. NiktNO...

Star Trek XI'- Probably will do well. My only question- WHY?

The Mutant Chronicles- X-fans will go to see it, be p*ssed off because there 
are no X-Men in it. Word gets out, and it's on DVD the following month.

Deathrace 3000 Zelazny will rise from his grave just long enough to beg the 
masses *not* to see this. He won't have to be out for long.

They Came From Upstairs- probably won't do well at the box office. Based on 
this blurb, I'll go to see it.

Watchmen- if it doesn't, I'll be surprised.

The Lovely Bones- Peter Jackson. Need I say more?

Wolverine- uh, this is a trick question, right?

Monsters vs. Aliens- it'll do even better if the Aliens in it aren't the 
Aliens from Aliens vs Predator.

Terminator 4- I don't think it will fly. I think that all but the hardcore 
fans are sick of the franchise.

Sin City 2- The Yellow B*stard will be swimming in green.

Logan's Run- it might do well, appealing to the young'uns who are afraid to 
grow old.

The Hobbit- another trick question, right?

Deathlok- not enough people know who he is to make it work. Unless Marvel 
brings him back again (I think he was in a major book earlier this year), not 
much of a chance.

I now leave you to wonder why anyone with common sense would sell me a wireless 
PC card...

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
 The following is a list of Speculative Fiction Movies 
Coming Out on 
 2008.  Which ones are you looking forward to?  Which ones do you think 
 will hit and which ones do you think will flop?
 
 One Missed Call
 U.S. Opening Date:January 4.
 A chain of people receive terrifying cell phone messages--actual 
 recordings of their own horrifying last moments before dying.
 
 In The Name Of The King: A Dungeon Siege Tale
 U.S. Opening Date: 11 January 2008
 Jason Statham must find his kidnapped wife and avenge the death of his 
 son, amidst the backdrop of war in the Kingdom of Ehb.
 
 Cloverfield
 U.S. Opening Date:January 18
 A group of friends document their attempt to survive when a monster the 
 size of a skyscraper descends upon New York City.
 
 Teeth
 U.S. Opening Date:January 18
 A high school student discovers she has a bizarre physical advantage 
 when she becomes the object of male violence.
 
 Untraceable
 Opening January 25, 2008
 Within the FBI, there exists a division dedicated to investigating and 
 prosecuting criminals on the internet.  A tech-savvy internet predator 
 is displaying his graphic murders on his own website--and the fate of 
 each of his tormented captives is left in the hands on the public:
 
 Jumper
 U.S. Opening date: 15 February 2008
 A teenager (Hayden Christensen, Young Darth Vader) discovers he can 
 teleport from one place to another and uses this ability to search for 
 the man he believes killed his mother .
 
 The Spiderwick 

Re: [scifinoir2] NBC's Chuck Still Up In Air

2007-12-29 Thread Martin
Martin is not happy.

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Chuck Still Up In Air
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=46750
Zachary Levi, who stars in NBC's hit SF series Chuck, told Entertainment 
Weekly that the show's status remains up in the air because of the 
ongoing writers' strike, even though the network ordered a full season 
of episodes.

We've only aired 11 episodes, Levi said, adding that the additional 
nine episodes on order won't be started until after the strike is 
resolved, likely sometime next year.

It's nice to have a back nine, but you don't really know what that 
means at the end of the day, Levi added. You don't know when you can 
go back to work. If they were to resolve the strike today, then they'd 
have to start writing, and the writing would take them through the rest 
of January, and we stop production in February.

Levi said that it wouldn't surprise him if the network said the nine 
episodes would form the beginning of the second season.

In the meantime, Levi is developing projects through his own production 
company, Coattails Entertainment. We produced this film, Spiral, coming 
out on DVD in February, he told the magazine. We've been getting a lot 
of good buzz on the film. Amber Tamblyn [The Grudge 2] is in it, and 
Tricia Helfer from Battlestar Galactica, and Joel David Moore, who is in 
James Cameron's Avatar right now, shooting in New Zealand. He's my best 
friend and business partner.

(NBC is owned by NBC Universal, which also owns SCIFI.COM.)


 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Omega MAn

2007-12-29 Thread KeithBJohnson
now i remember!

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
When Heston was president of the NRA, he gave a now-famous/infamous speech with 
regard to his right to keep and bear arms.

Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NRA...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, refresh my memory on that one...

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Pondering on this, Keith, I'm reminded that, in a sense, Heston has taken this 
into real life.

From my cold dead fingers. Ring a bell?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've only seen The Omega Man on network TV, so that 
scene was cut. I remember liking the movie, and shaking my head at the ending. 
You ever notice how many times in movies Heston died at the end, but in a 
noble, martyr-like way? In Omega man, he looks like nothing so much as Christ 
on the Cross at the end. He also had a bloody, dramatic death in one of the 
Planet of the Apes films. Indeed, isn't he the one who setoff the 
Earth-destroying nuke in his death throes? And then there's El Cid, where he 
dies at the end, yet is tied to his horse so that his body, riding onward on 
the battlefield, can continue to inspire his men. My wife and I always laugh at 
Heston in such roles...

-- Original message -- 
From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
I am a big fan of Omega Man. The late, great Rosalind Cash plays 
the sassy black girl. Although she remains too thin for my taste, in 
1971, when I was fifteen years old, her brief nude scene sho nuff ruled 
my world. 

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I watched Omega Man and The Last Man on Earth yesterday via Netflix.
 All very good movies. I like Omega Man cause of the sassy blk girl
 Lisa. But I can see how they mashed both versions of the movies
 together to create the Will Smith movie. But see how I Am Legend is
 much more developed then the previous versions.
 
 If anyone is interested there is also a good movie that comes with The
 Last Man on Earth DVD called Panic in Year Zero. It was a really good
 film. No zombies but a good look at how if bombs hit people will go
 nuts.


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Re: [scifinoir2] SF Movies coming Up in 2008

2007-12-29 Thread Mike Street
I feel sorry for Vin Diesel cause he was gonna be the next big action
star. Then The Rock came along and pretty much killed his career.

There are some good movies on this list. Lots of stuff I wanna see and
a lot of stuff I will never watch. Narina is gonna do big number and
I'm glad they are doing the books justice. I watched the British
version and I think they are doing an excellent job. I just wanna know
what will happen after the 3rd book. Cause the kids can't come back to
Narina after the Silver Chair.

On Dec 29, 2007 8:44 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






 One Missed Call- sums it up perfectly.

  In The Name of the King- it'll probably flop, but I'll pay to see Statham
 go medieval on someone's a$$. (pun fully intended)

  Cloverfield- the young'uns will make it happen.

  Teeth- doubt it'll have any bite.

  Untraaceable- I think it's got a great chance, in the Internet-voyeur
 era.

  Jumper- another one for the kids. If it's done right, it might pick up
 some of the adults who read the book.

  The Spiderwick Chronicles- my niece and her friends have been talking
 this one up since it was announced last year. Based on that, I'll say yes.

  The Signal- One Missed Call again. Cancellation effect.

  Babylon A.D- no. Not even with the Big Diesel in front.

  The Water Horse- I've heard that this one's not really even for kids,
 that it as a few bits that might spook the younger kids. If my scuttlebutt
 is right, then I think it'll draw the first weekend, then tail off as word
 of mouth gets out.

  10,000 B.C.- only if Raquel does a cameo.

  The Forbidden Kingdom- it might recover its money, but I don't see it
 going big big big.

  Iron Man- if it doesn't do well, it'll be because they refused to let the
 Technonerdati in the door.

  Prince Caspian- ditto. I wasn't expecting much out of the first Narnia
 movie, and was pleasantly surprised.

  Indiana Jones IV- if they offer Geritol at the door, they might recoup.
 Not even *I'm* game for this. And I *hate* Nazis...

  Starship Dave- no. Just no. No, I take that back. It'll probably do well,
 but I won't be there.

  Speed Racer- yes. Kids like retro. Adults like retro, too.

  The Incredible Hulk- doubt t. People's memories are short, but their
 senses of smell are long, and The Hulk stunk the joint up but good.

  The Dark Knight- try to keep 'em out of the theaters. I dare you.

  Wallace to quote the eminent scientist Hubert Farnsworth, Hu-WHA?

  Hancock- probably. But I'm not sold on it, especially after seeing the
 trailer. Just me and my weirdness.

  Hellboy 2- yes. Yes.YES.

  The Mummy 3- no. No. NO. To paraphrase, once was enough.

  Jurassic Park IV- see above.

  The Day The Earth Stood Still'- Klaatu. Barada. NiktNO...

  Star Trek XI'- Probably will do well. My only question- WHY?

  The Mutant Chronicles- X-fans will go to see it, be p*ssed off because
 there are no X-Men in it. Word gets out, and it's on DVD the following
 month.

  Deathrace 3000 Zelazny will rise from his grave just long enough to beg
 the masses *not* to see this. He won't have to be out for long.

  They Came From Upstairs- probably won't do well at the box office. Based
 on this blurb, I'll go to see it.

  Watchmen- if it doesn't, I'll be surprised.

  The Lovely Bones- Peter Jackson. Need I say more?

  Wolverine- uh, this is a trick question, right?

  Monsters vs. Aliens- it'll do even better if the Aliens in it aren't the
 Aliens from Aliens vs Predator.

  Terminator 4- I don't think it will fly. I think that all but the
 hardcore fans are sick of the franchise.

  Sin City 2- The Yellow B*stard will be swimming in green.

  Logan's Run- it might do well, appealing to the young'uns who are afraid
 to grow old.

  The Hobbit- another trick question, right?

  Deathlok- not enough people know who he is to make it work. Unless Marvel
 brings him back again (I think he was in a major book earlier this year),
 not much of a chance.

  I now leave you to wonder why anyone with common sense would sell me a
 wireless PC card...

  Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following is a list of
 Speculative Fiction Movies Coming Out on


  2008. Which ones are you looking forward to? Which ones do you think
  will hit and which ones do you think will flop?

  One Missed Call
  U.S. Opening Date:January 4.
  A chain of people receive terrifying cell phone messages--actual
  recordings of their own horrifying last moments before dying.

  In The Name Of The King: A Dungeon Siege Tale
  U.S. Opening Date: 11 January 2008
  Jason Statham must find his kidnapped wife and avenge the death of his
  son, amidst the backdrop of war in the Kingdom of Ehb.

  Cloverfield
  U.S. Opening Date:January 18
  A group of friends document their attempt to survive when a monster the
  size of a skyscraper descends upon New York City.

  Teeth
  U.S. Opening Date:January 18
  A high school student discovers she has a bizarre physical 

RE: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-29 Thread Martin
I'm in. As long as I get to kiss babies.

Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   I think 
we  have the basis for a new political party!
  
 The Contrarian Party...
  
  Maurice Jennings
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 From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:26 PM
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield
 
 Well then I'm one too, because I agree with much that you say
 
 KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote:
  true, or maybe i'm just a contrarian!
 
  -- Original message -- 
  From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com 
 
  Maybe the likelihood of the movie earning more money is raised with 
  those demographics - or maybe our culture is just youth obsessed
 
  KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote:
  
  and 18 -25 year olds only watch movies staring others their age? Wasn't
 that way when I was 18 - 25? That's up there with boys only watch movies
 about boys and whites only watch movies staring whites (and Will Smith)
 
  -- Original message -- 
  From: Mike Street streetforce1@ mailto:streetforce1%40gmail.com
 gmail.com 
  This pretty much started with the 80's moves that started Molly
  Ringwald and the likes in the Brat Pack. Those movies where so popular
  that more and more of them started to be turned out as marketers saw a
  new market as the baby boomers started getting older and older.
 
  We can move forward to Gen X, Gen Y, and now the MySpace/YouTube Gen
  where all of the money is being made and spent. It all has to do with
  where you should be spending your ad dollars at. Right now the big
  spend is all for online social media and that demographic is mainly
  18-25.
 
  On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 AM, KeithBJohnson@
 mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote:
 
  
 
 
  see, that's what confuses me. When i was younger, i of course related to
  films and TV shows that had people close to my age. But at the same
 time, i
  absolutely enjoyed movies and shows that had people significantly older
 than
  i was then. i didn't have an issue when i was 19 watching a James Bond
 who
  was clearly in his late '30s or early '40s. Didn't complain about Kirk
 being
  34-which is old to some---when i was only 14. Never said McCoy is too
 old
  about Bones. Even in the comic world back in the day, the typical age
 for
  many superheroes was around 28, some a bit younger like Peter Parker,
 some a
  bit older like Stephen Strange or Reed Richards. But still, that's darn
  close to 30 and i never had a problem with it. Now, the likes of Alias,
  Buffy, and others seems to focus more on kids 18 - 25, with 25 being at
 the
  high end. And contrast Wonder Woman, where Lynda Carter was 25 when the
  series started, with Joss Whedon's goal when he was on the project to
 craft
  a Wonder Woman barel
  y out of her teens.
 
  I went back and looked at classic action and scifi films from back in
 the
  day. From The Towering Inferno and The Poseidon Adventure to The
 Omega
  Man and Bullitt. In many, many of those old films--which set the
 standard
  for their day--the stars were typically middle-aged. I found ranges from
  early 30s on the low end to mid-50s in the likes of Ernest Borgnine and
 Paul
  Newman. There were of course youngsters, but even the lesser known stars
 in
  these films are about a decade older than the characters Abrams and crew
  seem to favor.
 
  So what changed? Is it just the likes of Abrams and Joss Whedon who love
  the younger stars? Is Hollywood more focused on younger stars because
 kids
  have more disposable income nowadays and thus support movies with these
  characters more?
 
 
  -- Original message --
  From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com
 aladvantage.com
  ain't gonna happen. It seems to me, he is keeping to the studio
  demographic formula applied in Star Trek. Maybe some of the supporting
  characters will be a little older. Let's face it. Most of us over 28
  are not going to the theatre every week, where the initial bulk of a
  studios money is made.
 
  KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote:
 
  
  yeah, though i still wonder, why is Abrams so fascinated with young
 
  
  people. all the main stars in Cloverfield seem to be in their early to
  mid-20s. Even the little blurb I read describes it as Five young New
  Yorkers. Hopefully, like with 

RE: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-29 Thread KeithBJohnson
:)

-- Original message -- 
From: Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
I think we have the basis for a new political party!

The Contrarian Party...

Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:26 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

Well then I'm one too, because I agree with much that you say

KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote:
 true, or maybe i'm just a contrarian!

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com 

 Maybe the likelihood of the movie earning more money is raised with 
 those demographics - or maybe our culture is just youth obsessed

 KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote:
 
 and 18 -25 year olds only watch movies staring others their age? Wasn't
that way when I was 18 - 25? That's up there with boys only watch movies
about boys and whites only watch movies staring whites (and Will Smith)

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Mike Street streetforce1@ mailto:streetforce1%40gmail.com
gmail.com 
 This pretty much started with the 80's moves that started Molly
 Ringwald and the likes in the Brat Pack. Those movies where so popular
 that more and more of them started to be turned out as marketers saw a
 new market as the baby boomers started getting older and older.

 We can move forward to Gen X, Gen Y, and now the MySpace/YouTube Gen
 where all of the money is being made and spent. It all has to do with
 where you should be spending your ad dollars at. Right now the big
 spend is all for online social media and that demographic is mainly
 18-25.

 On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 AM, KeithBJohnson@
mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote:

 


 see, that's what confuses me. When i was younger, i of course related to
 films and TV shows that had people close to my age. But at the same
time, i
 absolutely enjoyed movies and shows that had people significantly older
than
 i was then. i didn't have an issue when i was 19 watching a James Bond
who
 was clearly in his late '30s or early '40s. Didn't complain about Kirk
being
 34-which is old to some---when i was only 14. Never said McCoy is too
old
 about Bones. Even in the comic world back in the day, the typical age
for
 many superheroes was around 28, some a bit younger like Peter Parker,
some a
 bit older like Stephen Strange or Reed Richards. But still, that's darn
 close to 30 and i never had a problem with it. Now, the likes of Alias,
 Buffy, and others seems to focus more on kids 18 - 25, with 25 being at
the
 high end. And contrast Wonder Woman, where Lynda Carter was 25 when the
 series started, with Joss Whedon's goal when he was on the project to
craft
 a Wonder Woman barel
 y out of her teens.

 I went back and looked at classic action and scifi films from back in
the
 day. From The Towering Inferno and The Poseidon Adventure to The
Omega
 Man and Bullitt. In many, many of those old films--which set the
standard
 for their day--the stars were typically middle-aged. I found ranges from
 early 30s on the low end to mid-50s in the likes of Ernest Borgnine and
Paul
 Newman. There were of course youngsters, but even the lesser known stars
in
 these films are about a decade older than the characters Abrams and crew
 seem to favor.

 So what changed? Is it just the likes of Abrams and Joss Whedon who love
 the younger stars? Is Hollywood more focused on younger stars because
kids
 have more disposable income nowadays and thus support movies with these
 characters more?


 -- Original message --
 From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com
aladvantage.com
 ain't gonna happen. It seems to me, he is keeping to the studio
 demographic formula applied in Star Trek. Maybe some of the supporting
 characters will be a little older. Let's face it. Most of us over 28
 are not going to the theatre every week, where the initial bulk of a
 studios money is made.

 KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote:

 
 yeah, though i still wonder, why is Abrams so fascinated with young

 
 people. all the main stars in Cloverfield seem to be in their early to
 mid-20s. Even the little blurb I read describes it as Five young New
 Yorkers. Hopefully, like with Lost, there'll be some old fogies my
age
 who get meaty roles!

 
 -- Original message --
 From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly 

RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

2007-12-29 Thread Astromancer
I am becoming a hardcore recluse...I really don't like going out any more...

Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   I hear you. I'm not a 
crowd/life of the party type person either. I'm
a party voyeur...

Maurice Jennings
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:50 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

No, I'm eternally uncomfy in public sitches. I'm the guy who makes one round
to make himself known to those I want to be known to, then finds a corner to
cower in for the remainder of the party. Forty-three years of life it's
taken me to find three people like myself.

Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com
wrote: Do you still, Howard? I mean Martin? It seems to me that you'd be the
one who is comfortable in any crowd. Are you comfortable but feeling
different from others? 

I revel in being that way...now...LOL!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

Forgot to add on the literal duck out of water premise, which I sympathize
with daily. I've always felt out of place, even among the Technonerdati.

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: Wow!
Thank you for making yourself vulnerable and opening up. Now the 
question you had to anticipate... why?

Martin wrote:
 Tracey, to put you at ease, I'm going to reveal one of my deepest, darkest
movie secrets.
 
 I love Howard the Duck.

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote:
 Keith

 I know you are disappointed in me, but for mindless fluff sitting in the 
 comfort of my home, I liked the first one. :(

 Martin wrote:
 
 But...but...I *wanna* throw away my money! Mindless stupididty is my
milieu!

 KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: I
really hope none of you fine people contributed any ducats to making
National Treasure 2 the number one movie over the Christmas weekend. I
tried to watch the first movie a couple of years ago, on a Sunday night, as
background noise while I cleaned up. I turned it off with 45 minutes to go.
Silly concepts, preposterous occurrences, autopilot acting by Cage and
Voight (just show me the money!!). Not fun or clever or engaging at all.
Despite what some think of me, i'm not a movie snob, don't have a thing
against low brow humour (saw Knocked Up recently and loved it) or mindless
action flicks. Im the guy who will watch The Warriors every single time
it airs (much to my wife's consternation!) And Face Off? Pure cinematic
pleasure of adrenalin, over-the-top acting, and things that go boom!. Love
that flick.
 But National Treasure sucked, and I hear the sequel is even dumber in
plot. Mount Rushmore built just to hide a city of gold. A secret book passed
down from one President to another that details, among other things, the
truth of what's kept in Area 51? Brotherrr!

 Please tell me none of you watched it?

 

 National Treasure sleighs Christmas box office 
 Tue Dec 25, 2:27 PM ET 
 Nicolas Cage's adventure sequel National Treasure: Book of Secrets
raced to $65 million during its first five days of release across North
America, distributor Walt Disney Pictures said on Tuesday.
 The tally consists of actual sales for the four days since the film
opened last Friday, and a Christmas day estimate. Final sales data will be
issued on Wednesday.
 Through December 24, the film had also earned $27.5 million in 17
international markets, mostly in Asia. The critically maligned sequel to the
2004 smash National Treasure stars Cage as a treasure hunter who flies
around the world trying to solve an ancient puzzle related to Lincoln's
assassination.
 Will Smith's sci-fi thriller I Am Legend was No. 2 with five-day sales
of $47.5 million, taking its 12-day haul to $150.8 million, said Warner
Bros. Pictures.
 Because of the holiday, data for many films were incomplete. Twentieth
Century Fox reported a four-day 

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-29 Thread Astromancer
Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or 
insects

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   
Even so, I like shows with sea monsters

Martin wrote:
 Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi...

 Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all 
 have one common element.
 
 Hideous eight-legged creatures.
 
 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script 
 reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to 
 know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm 
 actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used 
 to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with 
 the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly 
 too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was 
 for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. 
 
 Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of 
 this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, 
 so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film 
 school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, 
 shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for 
 the character development as well as the chills and thrills
 
 I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my 
 Netflix que
 
 I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic 
 bomb experience. But I have no idea
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know 
  what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having 
  come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait 
  until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. 
  I'll read some more about the movie, though.
 
  I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's 
  long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly 
  scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening 
  Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear 
  the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant 
  monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant 
  monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters 
  to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, 
  or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being 
  afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. 
 
  I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box 
  office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six 
  million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 
  1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only 
  four million overseas.
 
  Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves 
  or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? 
 
  -- Original message -- 
  From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) 
  Try these sites from imdb
 
  There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, 
  through which you can find other characters in the movie. 
  Rob--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins
 
  www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 
  this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of 
  the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video 
  diary for her boyfriend. The password for the video is jllovesth. There 
  are 5 videos so far.
 
  www.theblairgodzillaproject.com 
  is another new site that shows the characters and films that inspired 
  J.J. Abrams to make the film.
 
  http://www.slusho.jp/. This site is designed to appear as a commercial 
  website about a fictitious beverage called 'Slusho' that J.J. Abrams has 
  so far included in both Lost and Alias.
 
  Mike Street wrote:
  
  try researching Slusho and you'll find out a lot more of what
  Cloverfield is all about. There is a lot going on with the movie and
  there are several fake MySpace pages which info on the movie it all
  ties into an elaborate online game millions are playing right in
  online and offline
 
  On Dec 27, 2007 9:47 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
  wrote:
 
  
  found some pix of the monster
  http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/stabbysidefinal.jpg
  http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/paint16.jpg
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for 
  Cloverfield, the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, 
  MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a 
  suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come 
  sailing through the air *all 

[scifinoir2] Re: SF Movies coming Up in 2008

2007-12-29 Thread ravenadal
Don't cry for Mr. Diesel.  After a shallow 2007, he appears to have a 
full slate of films scheduled and announced for 2008  2009 
including Hannibal the Conquerer. 

Plot: Vin Diesel stars as the Carthaginian general who led an 
elephant-riding battalion across the Alps to attack Rome in the 3rd 
Century B.C. 

But, I'll believe that one when I see it.

~rave!

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I feel sorry for Vin Diesel cause he was gonna be the next big 
action
 star. Then The Rock came along and pretty much killed his career.
 
 There are some good movies on this list. Lots of stuff I wanna see 
and
 a lot of stuff I will never watch. Narina is gonna do big number and
 I'm glad they are doing the books justice. I watched the British
 version and I think they are doing an excellent job. I just wanna 
know
 what will happen after the 3rd book. Cause the kids can't come back 
to
 Narina after the Silver Chair.
 
 On Dec 29, 2007 8:44 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
  One Missed Call- sums it up perfectly.
 
   In The Name of the King- it'll probably flop, but I'll pay to 
see Statham
  go medieval on someone's a$$. (pun fully intended)
 
   Cloverfield- the young'uns will make it happen.
 
   Teeth- doubt it'll have any bite.
 
   Untraaceable- I think it's got a great chance, in the Internet-
voyeur
  era.
 
   Jumper- another one for the kids. If it's done right, it might 
pick up
  some of the adults who read the book.
 
   The Spiderwick Chronicles- my niece and her friends have been 
talking
  this one up since it was announced last year. Based on that, I'll 
say yes.
 
   The Signal- One Missed Call again. Cancellation effect.
 
   Babylon A.D- no. Not even with the Big Diesel in front.
 
   The Water Horse- I've heard that this one's not really even 
for kids,
  that it as a few bits that might spook the younger kids. If my 
scuttlebutt
  is right, then I think it'll draw the first weekend, then tail 
off as word
  of mouth gets out.
 
   10,000 B.C.- only if Raquel does a cameo.
 
   The Forbidden Kingdom- it might recover its money, but I don't 
see it
  going big big big.
 
   Iron Man- if it doesn't do well, it'll be because they refused 
to let the
  Technonerdati in the door.
 
   Prince Caspian- ditto. I wasn't expecting much out of the 
first Narnia
  movie, and was pleasantly surprised.
 
   Indiana Jones IV- if they offer Geritol at the door, they 
might recoup.
  Not even *I'm* game for this. And I *hate* Nazis...
 
   Starship Dave- no. Just no. No, I take that back. It'll 
probably do well,
  but I won't be there.
 
   Speed Racer- yes. Kids like retro. Adults like retro, too.
 
   The Incredible Hulk- doubt t. People's memories are short, but 
their
  senses of smell are long, and The Hulk stunk the joint up but 
good.
 
   The Dark Knight- try to keep 'em out of the theaters. I dare 
you.
 
   Wallace to quote the eminent scientist Hubert Farnsworth, Hu-
WHA?
 
   Hancock- probably. But I'm not sold on it, especially after 
seeing the
  trailer. Just me and my weirdness.
 
   Hellboy 2- yes. Yes.YES.
 
   The Mummy 3- no. No. NO. To paraphrase, once was enough.
 
   Jurassic Park IV- see above.
 
   The Day The Earth Stood Still'- Klaatu. Barada. NiktNO...
 
   Star Trek XI'- Probably will do well. My only question- WHY?
 
   The Mutant Chronicles- X-fans will go to see it, be p*ssed off 
because
  there are no X-Men in it. Word gets out, and it's on DVD the 
following
  month.
 
   Deathrace 3000 Zelazny will rise from his grave just long 
enough to beg
  the masses *not* to see this. He won't have to be out for long.
 
   They Came From Upstairs- probably won't do well at the box 
office. Based
  on this blurb, I'll go to see it.
 
   Watchmen- if it doesn't, I'll be surprised.
 
   The Lovely Bones- Peter Jackson. Need I say more?
 
   Wolverine- uh, this is a trick question, right?
 
   Monsters vs. Aliens- it'll do even better if the Aliens in it 
aren't the
  Aliens from Aliens vs Predator.
 
   Terminator 4- I don't think it will fly. I think that all but 
the
  hardcore fans are sick of the franchise.
 
   Sin City 2- The Yellow B*stard will be swimming in green.
 
   Logan's Run- it might do well, appealing to the young'uns who 
are afraid
  to grow old.
 
   The Hobbit- another trick question, right?
 
   Deathlok- not enough people know who he is to make it work. 
Unless Marvel
  brings him back again (I think he was in a major book earlier 
this year),
  not much of a chance.
 
   I now leave you to wonder why anyone with common sense would 
sell me a
  wireless PC card...
 
   Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following is a list of
  Speculative Fiction Movies Coming Out on
 
 
   2008. Which ones are you looking forward to? Which ones do you 
think
   will hit and which ones do you think will flop?
 
   One Missed Call
   U.S. Opening Date:January 4.
   A chain of 

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-29 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and 
do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on 
television.  It is only dangerous for your love of the genre.  It is 
rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad.  It is chronic, kill your love of 
campy, funny B-movies.  These are W-Movies.  Their star ratings on a 
scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no 
exceptions.  I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, 
but it will not happen.

Now, repeat after me...
I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television
I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television
I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television


Astromancer wrote:
 Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or 
 insects

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   
 Even so, I like shows with sea monsters

 Martin wrote:
   
 Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi...

 Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all 
 have one common element.

 Hideous eight-legged creatures.

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script 
 reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to 
 know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm 
 actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used 
 to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with 
 the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly 
 too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was 
 for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. 

 Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of 
 this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, 
 so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film 
 school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, 
 shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for 
 the character development as well as the chills and thrills

 I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my 
 Netflix que

 I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic 
 bomb experience. But I have no idea

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know 
 what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having 
 come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait 
 until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. 
 I'll read some more about the movie, though.

 I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's 
 long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly 
 scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening 
 Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear 
 the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant 
 monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant 
 monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters 
 to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, 
 or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being 
 afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. 

 I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box 
 office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six 
 million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 
 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only 
 four million overseas.

 Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves 
 or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? 

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) 
 Try these sites from imdb

 There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, 
 through which you can find other characters in the movie. 
 Rob--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins

 www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 
 this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of 
 the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video 
 diary for her boyfriend. The password for the video is jllovesth. There 
 are 5 videos so far.

 www.theblairgodzillaproject.com 
 is another new site that shows the characters and films that inspired 
 J.J. Abrams to make the film.

 http://www.slusho.jp/. This site is designed to appear as a commercial 
 website about a fictitious beverage called 'Slusho' that J.J. Abrams has 
 so far included in both Lost and Alias.

 Mike Street wrote:

   
 try researching Slusho and you'll find out a lot more of what
 Cloverfield is all about. There is a lot going on with the movie 

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Omega MAn

2007-12-29 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Hasn't he retired from public life as a result of Alzheimer's?

Astromancer wrote:
 NRA...

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  no, refresh my memory on that one...

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Pondering on this, Keith, I'm reminded that, in a sense, Heston has taken 
 this into real life.

 From my cold dead fingers. Ring a bell?

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've only seen The Omega Man on network TV, so 
 that scene was cut. I remember liking the movie, and shaking my head at the 
 ending. You ever notice how many times in movies Heston died at the end, but 
 in a noble, martyr-like way? In Omega man, he looks like nothing so much as 
 Christ on the Cross at the end. He also had a bloody, dramatic death in one 
 of the Planet of the Apes films. Indeed, isn't he the one who setoff the 
 Earth-destroying nuke in his death throes? And then there's El Cid, where he 
 dies at the end, yet is tied to his horse so that his body, riding onward on 
 the battlefield, can continue to inspire his men. My wife and I always laugh 
 at Heston in such roles...

 -- Original message -- 
 From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 I am a big fan of Omega Man. The late, great Rosalind Cash plays 
 the sassy black girl. Although she remains too thin for my taste, in 
 1971, when I was fifteen years old, her brief nude scene sho nuff ruled 
 my world. 

 ~rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
   
 I watched Omega Man and The Last Man on Earth yesterday via Netflix.
 All very good movies. I like Omega Man cause of the sassy blk girl
 Lisa. But I can see how they mashed both versions of the movies
 together to create the Will Smith movie. But see how I Am Legend is
 much more developed then the previous versions.

 If anyone is interested there is also a good movie that comes with The
 Last Man on Earth DVD called Panic in Year Zero. It was a really good
 film. No zombies but a good look at how if bombs hit people will go
 nuts.

 

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: SF Movies coming Up in 2008

2007-12-29 Thread Mike Street
I think Hannibal is animated but he needs a hit movie. He hasn't had
one since the Pacifier. Most of the roles he would have been in The
Rock took.

On Dec 29, 2007 11:50 AM, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






 Don't cry for Mr. Diesel. After a shallow 2007, he appears to have a
  full slate of films scheduled and announced for 2008  2009
  including Hannibal the Conquerer.

  Plot: Vin Diesel stars as the Carthaginian general who led an
  elephant-riding battalion across the Alps to attack Rome in the 3rd
  Century B.C.

  But, I'll believe that one when I see it.

  ~rave!

  --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  wrote:
  
   I feel sorry for Vin Diesel cause he was gonna be the next big
  action
   star. Then The Rock came along and pretty much killed his career.
  
   There are some good movies on this list. Lots of stuff I wanna see
  and
   a lot of stuff I will never watch. Narina is gonna do big number and
   I'm glad they are doing the books justice. I watched the British
   version and I think they are doing an excellent job. I just wanna
  know
   what will happen after the 3rd book. Cause the kids can't come back
  to
   Narina after the Silver Chair.
  

   On Dec 29, 2007 8:44 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   
   
   
   
   
One Missed Call- sums it up perfectly.
   
In The Name of the King- it'll probably flop, but I'll pay to
  see Statham
go medieval on someone's a$$. (pun fully intended)
   
Cloverfield- the young'uns will make it happen.
   
Teeth- doubt it'll have any bite.
   
Untraaceable- I think it's got a great chance, in the Internet-
  voyeur
era.
   
Jumper- another one for the kids. If it's done right, it might
  pick up
some of the adults who read the book.
   
The Spiderwick Chronicles- my niece and her friends have been
  talking
this one up since it was announced last year. Based on that, I'll
  say yes.
   
The Signal- One Missed Call again. Cancellation effect.
   
Babylon A.D- no. Not even with the Big Diesel in front.
   
The Water Horse- I've heard that this one's not really even
  for kids,
that it as a few bits that might spook the younger kids. If my
  scuttlebutt
is right, then I think it'll draw the first weekend, then tail
  off as word
of mouth gets out.
   
10,000 B.C.- only if Raquel does a cameo.
   
The Forbidden Kingdom- it might recover its money, but I don't
  see it
going big big big.
   
Iron Man- if it doesn't do well, it'll be because they refused
  to let the
Technonerdati in the door.
   
Prince Caspian- ditto. I wasn't expecting much out of the
  first Narnia
movie, and was pleasantly surprised.
   
Indiana Jones IV- if they offer Geritol at the door, they
  might recoup.
Not even *I'm* game for this. And I *hate* Nazis...
   
Starship Dave- no. Just no. No, I take that back. It'll
  probably do well,
but I won't be there.
   
Speed Racer- yes. Kids like retro. Adults like retro, too.
   
The Incredible Hulk- doubt t. People's memories are short, but
  their
senses of smell are long, and The Hulk stunk the joint up but
  good.
   
The Dark Knight- try to keep 'em out of the theaters. I dare
  you.
   
Wallace to quote the eminent scientist Hubert Farnsworth, Hu-
  WHA?
   
Hancock- probably. But I'm not sold on it, especially after
  seeing the
trailer. Just me and my weirdness.
   
Hellboy 2- yes. Yes.YES.
   
The Mummy 3- no. No. NO. To paraphrase, once was enough.
   
Jurassic Park IV- see above.
   
The Day The Earth Stood Still'- Klaatu. Barada. NiktNO...
   
Star Trek XI'- Probably will do well. My only question- WHY?
   
The Mutant Chronicles- X-fans will go to see it, be p*ssed off
  because
there are no X-Men in it. Word gets out, and it's on DVD the
  following
month.
   
Deathrace 3000 Zelazny will rise from his grave just long
  enough to beg
the masses *not* to see this. He won't have to be out for long.
   
They Came From Upstairs- probably won't do well at the box
  office. Based
on this blurb, I'll go to see it.
   
Watchmen- if it doesn't, I'll be surprised.
   
The Lovely Bones- Peter Jackson. Need I say more?
   
Wolverine- uh, this is a trick question, right?
   
Monsters vs. Aliens- it'll do even better if the Aliens in it
  aren't the
Aliens from Aliens vs Predator.
   
Terminator 4- I don't think it will fly. I think that all but
  the
hardcore fans are sick of the franchise.
   
Sin City 2- The Yellow B*stard will be swimming in green.
   
Logan's Run- it might do well, appealing to the young'uns who
  are afraid
to grow old.
   
The Hobbit- another trick question, right?
   
Deathlok- not enough people know who he is to make it work.
  Unless Marvel
brings him back again (I think he was in a major book earlier
  this year),
not much of a 

Re: [scifinoir2] SF Movies coming Up in 2008

2007-12-29 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Regarding Vin.  I think there was room for both.  i think him, his ego 
and his decisions about watch movies to do killed it. 

Mike Street wrote:
 I feel sorry for Vin Diesel cause he was gonna be the next big action
 star. Then The Rock came along and pretty much killed his career.

 There are some good movies on this list. Lots of stuff I wanna see and
 a lot of stuff I will never watch. Narina is gonna do big number and
 I'm glad they are doing the books justice. I watched the British
 version and I think they are doing an excellent job. I just wanna know
 what will happen after the 3rd book. Cause the kids can't come back to
 Narina after the Silver Chair.

 On Dec 29, 2007 8:44 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   




 One Missed Call- sums it up perfectly.

  In The Name of the King- it'll probably flop, but I'll pay to see Statham
 go medieval on someone's a$$. (pun fully intended)

  Cloverfield- the young'uns will make it happen.

  Teeth- doubt it'll have any bite.

  Untraaceable- I think it's got a great chance, in the Internet-voyeur
 era.

  Jumper- another one for the kids. If it's done right, it might pick up
 some of the adults who read the book.

  The Spiderwick Chronicles- my niece and her friends have been talking
 this one up since it was announced last year. Based on that, I'll say yes.

  The Signal- One Missed Call again. Cancellation effect.

  Babylon A.D- no. Not even with the Big Diesel in front.

  The Water Horse- I've heard that this one's not really even for kids,
 that it as a few bits that might spook the younger kids. If my scuttlebutt
 is right, then I think it'll draw the first weekend, then tail off as word
 of mouth gets out.

  10,000 B.C.- only if Raquel does a cameo.

  The Forbidden Kingdom- it might recover its money, but I don't see it
 going big big big.

  Iron Man- if it doesn't do well, it'll be because they refused to let the
 Technonerdati in the door.

  Prince Caspian- ditto. I wasn't expecting much out of the first Narnia
 movie, and was pleasantly surprised.

  Indiana Jones IV- if they offer Geritol at the door, they might recoup.
 Not even *I'm* game for this. And I *hate* Nazis...

  Starship Dave- no. Just no. No, I take that back. It'll probably do well,
 but I won't be there.

  Speed Racer- yes. Kids like retro. Adults like retro, too.

  The Incredible Hulk- doubt t. People's memories are short, but their
 senses of smell are long, and The Hulk stunk the joint up but good.

  The Dark Knight- try to keep 'em out of the theaters. I dare you.

  Wallace to quote the eminent scientist Hubert Farnsworth, Hu-WHA?

  Hancock- probably. But I'm not sold on it, especially after seeing the
 trailer. Just me and my weirdness.

  Hellboy 2- yes. Yes.YES.

  The Mummy 3- no. No. NO. To paraphrase, once was enough.

  Jurassic Park IV- see above.

  The Day The Earth Stood Still'- Klaatu. Barada. NiktNO...

  Star Trek XI'- Probably will do well. My only question- WHY?

  The Mutant Chronicles- X-fans will go to see it, be p*ssed off because
 there are no X-Men in it. Word gets out, and it's on DVD the following
 month.

  Deathrace 3000 Zelazny will rise from his grave just long enough to beg
 the masses *not* to see this. He won't have to be out for long.

  They Came From Upstairs- probably won't do well at the box office. Based
 on this blurb, I'll go to see it.

  Watchmen- if it doesn't, I'll be surprised.

  The Lovely Bones- Peter Jackson. Need I say more?

  Wolverine- uh, this is a trick question, right?

  Monsters vs. Aliens- it'll do even better if the Aliens in it aren't the
 Aliens from Aliens vs Predator.

  Terminator 4- I don't think it will fly. I think that all but the
 hardcore fans are sick of the franchise.

  Sin City 2- The Yellow B*stard will be swimming in green.

  Logan's Run- it might do well, appealing to the young'uns who are afraid
 to grow old.

  The Hobbit- another trick question, right?

  Deathlok- not enough people know who he is to make it work. Unless Marvel
 brings him back again (I think he was in a major book earlier this year),
 not much of a chance.

  I now leave you to wonder why anyone with common sense would sell me a
 wireless PC card...

  Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following is a list of
 Speculative Fiction Movies Coming Out on


  2008. Which ones are you looking forward to? Which ones do you think
  will hit and which ones do you think will flop?

  One Missed Call
  U.S. Opening Date:January 4.
  A chain of people receive terrifying cell phone messages--actual
  recordings of their own horrifying last moments before dying.

  In The Name Of The King: A Dungeon Siege Tale
  U.S. Opening Date: 11 January 2008
  Jason Statham must find his kidnapped wife and avenge the death of his
  son, amidst the backdrop of war in the Kingdom of Ehb.

  Cloverfield
  U.S. Opening Date:January 18
  A group of friends document their attempt to survive when a 

Re: [scifinoir2] SF Movies coming Up in 2008

2007-12-29 Thread Mike Street
yeah Vin is doing an animated Hannibal for BET and looks like he might
be in another Fast and Furious flick. But i think that franchise is
pretty much dead. So looks like he is trying to rebuild his career
with Hannibal as an epic movie. But I think he was at his best in
Boiler Room. That was the only movie I ever really liked him in.


On Dec 29, 2007 12:03 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L.
Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






 Regarding Vin. I think there was room for both. i think him, his ego
  and his decisions about watch movies to do killed it.



  Mike Street wrote:
   I feel sorry for Vin Diesel cause he was gonna be the next big action
   star. Then The Rock came along and pretty much killed his career.
  
   There are some good movies on this list. Lots of stuff I wanna see and
   a lot of stuff I will never watch. Narina is gonna do big number and
   I'm glad they are doing the books justice. I watched the British
   version and I think they are doing an excellent job. I just wanna know
   what will happen after the 3rd book. Cause the kids can't come back to
   Narina after the Silver Chair.
  
   On Dec 29, 2007 8:44 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  
  
  
   One Missed Call- sums it up perfectly.
  
   In The Name of the King- it'll probably flop, but I'll pay to see
 Statham
   go medieval on someone's a$$. (pun fully intended)
  
   Cloverfield- the young'uns will make it happen.
  
   Teeth- doubt it'll have any bite.
  
   Untraaceable- I think it's got a great chance, in the Internet-voyeur
   era.
  
   Jumper- another one for the kids. If it's done right, it might pick up
   some of the adults who read the book.
  
   The Spiderwick Chronicles- my niece and her friends have been talking
   this one up since it was announced last year. Based on that, I'll say
 yes.
  
   The Signal- One Missed Call again. Cancellation effect.
  
   Babylon A.D- no. Not even with the Big Diesel in front.
  
   The Water Horse- I've heard that this one's not really even for kids,
   that it as a few bits that might spook the younger kids. If my
 scuttlebutt
   is right, then I think it'll draw the first weekend, then tail off as
 word
   of mouth gets out.
  
   10,000 B.C.- only if Raquel does a cameo.
  
   The Forbidden Kingdom- it might recover its money, but I don't see it
   going big big big.
  
   Iron Man- if it doesn't do well, it'll be because they refused to let
 the
   Technonerdati in the door.
  
   Prince Caspian- ditto. I wasn't expecting much out of the first Narnia
   movie, and was pleasantly surprised.
  
   Indiana Jones IV- if they offer Geritol at the door, they might
 recoup.
   Not even *I'm* game for this. And I *hate* Nazis...
  
   Starship Dave- no. Just no. No, I take that back. It'll probably do
 well,
   but I won't be there.
  
   Speed Racer- yes. Kids like retro. Adults like retro, too.
  
   The Incredible Hulk- doubt t. People's memories are short, but their
   senses of smell are long, and The Hulk stunk the joint up but good.
  
   The Dark Knight- try to keep 'em out of the theaters. I dare you.
  
   Wallace to quote the eminent scientist Hubert Farnsworth, Hu-WHA?
  
   Hancock- probably. But I'm not sold on it, especially after seeing the
   trailer. Just me and my weirdness.
  
   Hellboy 2- yes. Yes.YES.
  
   The Mummy 3- no. No. NO. To paraphrase, once was enough.
  
   Jurassic Park IV- see above.
  
   The Day The Earth Stood Still'- Klaatu. Barada. NiktNO...
  
   Star Trek XI'- Probably will do well. My only question- WHY?
  
   The Mutant Chronicles- X-fans will go to see it, be p*ssed off because
   there are no X-Men in it. Word gets out, and it's on DVD the following
   month.
  
   Deathrace 3000 Zelazny will rise from his grave just long enough to
 beg
   the masses *not* to see this. He won't have to be out for long.
  
   They Came From Upstairs- probably won't do well at the box office.
 Based
   on this blurb, I'll go to see it.
  
   Watchmen- if it doesn't, I'll be surprised.
  
   The Lovely Bones- Peter Jackson. Need I say more?
  
   Wolverine- uh, this is a trick question, right?
  
   Monsters vs. Aliens- it'll do even better if the Aliens in it aren't
 the
   Aliens from Aliens vs Predator.
  
   Terminator 4- I don't think it will fly. I think that all but the
   hardcore fans are sick of the franchise.
  
   Sin City 2- The Yellow B*stard will be swimming in green.
  
   Logan's Run- it might do well, appealing to the young'uns who are
 afraid
   to grow old.
  
   The Hobbit- another trick question, right?
  
   Deathlok- not enough people know who he is to make it work. Unless
 Marvel
   brings him back again (I think he was in a major book earlier this
 year),
   not much of a chance.
  
   I now leave you to wonder why anyone with common sense would sell me a
   wireless PC card...
  
   Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following is a list of
   Speculative 

Re: [scifinoir2] SF Movies coming Up in 2008

2007-12-29 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
I liked both Pitch black and the sequel. After Pitch Black and Boiler 
Room, I thought he was really going places. I guess his career sorta fizzled

Mike Street wrote:
 yeah Vin is doing an animated Hannibal for BET and looks like he might
 be in another Fast and Furious flick. But i think that franchise is
 pretty much dead. So looks like he is trying to rebuild his career
 with Hannibal as an epic movie. But I think he was at his best in
 Boiler Room. That was the only movie I ever really liked him in.


 On Dec 29, 2007 12:03 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L.
 Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   




 Regarding Vin. I think there was room for both. i think him, his ego
  and his decisions about watch movies to do killed it.



  Mike Street wrote:
   I feel sorry for Vin Diesel cause he was gonna be the next big action
   star. Then The Rock came along and pretty much killed his career.
  
   There are some good movies on this list. Lots of stuff I wanna see and
   a lot of stuff I will never watch. Narina is gonna do big number and
   I'm glad they are doing the books justice. I watched the British
   version and I think they are doing an excellent job. I just wanna know
   what will happen after the 3rd book. Cause the kids can't come back to
   Narina after the Silver Chair.
  
   On Dec 29, 2007 8:44 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  
  
  
   One Missed Call- sums it up perfectly.
  
   In The Name of the King- it'll probably flop, but I'll pay to see
 Statham
   go medieval on someone's a$$. (pun fully intended)
  
   Cloverfield- the young'uns will make it happen.
  
   Teeth- doubt it'll have any bite.
  
   Untraaceable- I think it's got a great chance, in the Internet-voyeur
   era.
  
   Jumper- another one for the kids. If it's done right, it might pick up
   some of the adults who read the book.
  
   The Spiderwick Chronicles- my niece and her friends have been talking
   this one up since it was announced last year. Based on that, I'll say
 yes.
  
   The Signal- One Missed Call again. Cancellation effect.
  
   Babylon A.D- no. Not even with the Big Diesel in front.
  
   The Water Horse- I've heard that this one's not really even for kids,
   that it as a few bits that might spook the younger kids. If my
 scuttlebutt
   is right, then I think it'll draw the first weekend, then tail off as
 word
   of mouth gets out.
  
   10,000 B.C.- only if Raquel does a cameo.
  
   The Forbidden Kingdom- it might recover its money, but I don't see it
   going big big big.
  
   Iron Man- if it doesn't do well, it'll be because they refused to let
 the
   Technonerdati in the door.
  
   Prince Caspian- ditto. I wasn't expecting much out of the first Narnia
   movie, and was pleasantly surprised.
  
   Indiana Jones IV- if they offer Geritol at the door, they might
 recoup.
   Not even *I'm* game for this. And I *hate* Nazis...
  
   Starship Dave- no. Just no. No, I take that back. It'll probably do
 well,
   but I won't be there.
  
   Speed Racer- yes. Kids like retro. Adults like retro, too.
  
   The Incredible Hulk- doubt t. People's memories are short, but their
   senses of smell are long, and The Hulk stunk the joint up but good.
  
   The Dark Knight- try to keep 'em out of the theaters. I dare you.
  
   Wallace to quote the eminent scientist Hubert Farnsworth, Hu-WHA?
  
   Hancock- probably. But I'm not sold on it, especially after seeing the
   trailer. Just me and my weirdness.
  
   Hellboy 2- yes. Yes.YES.
  
   The Mummy 3- no. No. NO. To paraphrase, once was enough.
  
   Jurassic Park IV- see above.
  
   The Day The Earth Stood Still'- Klaatu. Barada. NiktNO...
  
   Star Trek XI'- Probably will do well. My only question- WHY?
  
   The Mutant Chronicles- X-fans will go to see it, be p*ssed off because
   there are no X-Men in it. Word gets out, and it's on DVD the following
   month.
  
   Deathrace 3000 Zelazny will rise from his grave just long enough to
 beg
   the masses *not* to see this. He won't have to be out for long.
  
   They Came From Upstairs- probably won't do well at the box office.
 Based
   on this blurb, I'll go to see it.
  
   Watchmen- if it doesn't, I'll be surprised.
  
   The Lovely Bones- Peter Jackson. Need I say more?
  
   Wolverine- uh, this is a trick question, right?
  
   Monsters vs. Aliens- it'll do even better if the Aliens in it aren't
 the
   Aliens from Aliens vs Predator.
  
   Terminator 4- I don't think it will fly. I think that all but the
   hardcore fans are sick of the franchise.
  
   Sin City 2- The Yellow B*stard will be swimming in green.
  
   Logan's Run- it might do well, appealing to the young'uns who are
 afraid
   to grow old.
  
   The Hobbit- another trick question, right?
  
   Deathlok- not enough people know who he is to make it work. Unless
 Marvel
   brings him back again (I think he was in a major book earlier this
 year),
   not much of a chance.
  
   I now leave you to wonder why anyone with 

RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

2007-12-29 Thread Reece Jennings
I hear you!
 
 Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and  Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Astromancer
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 7:31 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(



I am becoming a hardcore recluse...I really don't like going out any more...

Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com
wrote: I hear you. I'm not a crowd/life of the party type person either. I'm
a party voyeur...

Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

No, I'm eternally uncomfy in public sitches. I'm the guy who makes one round
to make himself known to those I want to be known to, then finds a corner to
cower in for the remainder of the party. Forty-three years of life it's
taken me to find three people like myself.

Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com
wrote: Do you still, Howard? I mean Martin? It seems to me that you'd be the
one who is comfortable in any crowd. Are you comfortable but feeling
different from others? 

I revel in being that way...now...LOL!

Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho
http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com mesavers.com
mesavers.com
http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/
mesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

Forgot to add on the literal duck out of water premise, which I sympathize
with daily. I've always felt out of place, even among the Technonerdati.

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: Wow!
Thank you for making yourself vulnerable and opening up. Now the 
question you had to anticipate... why?

Martin wrote:
 Tracey, to put you at ease, I'm going to reveal one of my deepest, darkest
movie secrets.
 
 I love Howard the Duck.

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote:
 Keith

 I know you are disappointed in me, but for mindless fluff sitting in the 
 comfort of my home, I liked the first one. :(

 Martin wrote:
 
 But...but...I *wanna* throw away my money! Mindless stupididty is my
milieu!

 KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: I
really hope none of you fine people contributed any ducats to making
National Treasure 2 the number one movie over the Christmas weekend. I
tried to watch the first movie a couple of years ago, on a Sunday night, as
background noise while I cleaned up. I turned it off with 45 minutes to go.
Silly concepts, preposterous occurrences, autopilot acting by Cage and
Voight (just show me the money!!). Not fun or clever or engaging at all.
Despite what some think of me, i'm not a movie snob, don't have a thing
against low brow humour (saw Knocked Up recently and loved it) or mindless
action flicks. Im the guy who will watch The Warriors every single time
it airs (much to my wife's consternation!) And Face Off? Pure cinematic
pleasure of adrenalin, over-the-top acting, and things that go boom!. Love
that flick.
 But National Treasure sucked, and I hear the sequel is even dumber in
plot. Mount Rushmore built just to hide a city of gold. A secret book passed
down from one President to another that details, among other things, the
truth of what's kept in Area 51? Brotherrr!

 Please tell me none of you watched it?

 

 National Treasure sleighs Christmas box office 
 Tue Dec 25, 2:27 PM ET 
 Nicolas Cage's adventure sequel National Treasure: Book of Secrets
raced to $65 million during its first five days of release across North
America, 

Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

2007-12-29 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
I have struggled against the recluse thing ever since I had a lot of 
death in my immediate family.  It is a hard habit to break.  Fortunately 
during my worse periods I had pushy friends and family.  Getting married 
and having a kid has forced me to resist these urges too.  I do not want 
to inflict it on them.

Reece Jennings wrote:
 I hear you!
  
  Maurice Jennings
 Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
 KEEP your home and  Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
 Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com
 http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ 
  
  
  

   _  

 From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Astromancer
 Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 7:31 AM
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(



 I am becoming a hardcore recluse...I really don't like going out any more...

 Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com
 wrote: I hear you. I'm not a crowd/life of the party type person either. I'm
 a party voyeur...

 Maurice Jennings
 Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
 KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
 Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho
 http://www.legacyhomesavers.com mesavers.com
 http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ 

 _ 

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
 On
 Behalf Of Martin
 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:50 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

 No, I'm eternally uncomfy in public sitches. I'm the guy who makes one round
 to make himself known to those I want to be known to, then finds a corner to
 cower in for the remainder of the party. Forty-three years of life it's
 taken me to find three people like myself.

 Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com
 wrote: Do you still, Howard? I mean Martin? It seems to me that you'd be the
 one who is comfortable in any crowd. Are you comfortable but feeling
 different from others? 

 I revel in being that way...now...LOL!

 Maurice Jennings
 Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
 KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
 Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho
 http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com mesavers.com
 mesavers.com
 http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/
 mesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ 

 _ 

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
 On
 Behalf Of Martin
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:00 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

 Forgot to add on the literal duck out of water premise, which I sympathize
 with daily. I've always felt out of place, even among the Technonerdati.

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: Wow!
 Thank you for making yourself vulnerable and opening up. Now the 
 question you had to anticipate... why?

 Martin wrote:
   
 Tracey, to put you at ease, I'm going to reveal one of my deepest, darkest
 
 movie secrets.
   
 I love Howard the Duck.

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote:
   
 Keith

 I know you are disappointed in me, but for mindless fluff sitting in the 
 comfort of my home, I liked the first one. :(

 Martin wrote:

 
 But...but...I *wanna* throw away my money! Mindless stupididty is my
   
 milieu!
   
 KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: I
   
 really hope none of you fine people contributed any ducats to making
 National Treasure 2 the number one movie over the Christmas weekend. I
 tried to watch the first movie a couple of years ago, on a Sunday night, as
 background noise while I cleaned up. I turned it off with 45 minutes to go.
 Silly concepts, preposterous occurrences, autopilot acting by Cage and
 Voight (just show me the money!!). Not fun or clever or engaging at all.
 Despite what some think of me, i'm not a movie snob, don't have a thing
 against low brow humour (saw Knocked Up recently and loved it) or mindless
 action flicks. Im the guy who will watch The Warriors every single time
 it airs (much to my wife's consternation!) And Face Off? Pure cinematic
 pleasure of adrenalin, over-the-top acting, and things that go boom!. Love
 that flick.
   
 But National Treasure sucked, and I hear the sequel is even dumber in
   
 plot. Mount Rushmore 

Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

2007-12-29 Thread Mike Street
I saw National Treasure 2 last night and it was good actually. I'm
pretty much into anything that involves puzzles and decoding
something. I play a lot of turn based card games, and I enter just
about any online contest that involves puzzle solving. My favorite
online puzzle contest was the Da Vinic Code. It was really well done.
But NT2 was wayyy better then the first one. And it was cross
generational so not all movie are youth obsessed. This one was totally
for the 30+ audience. The young people in this movie only played a
minor role. You can't make Nick Cage look younger then 35 esp. with
the hair plugs he's got going on.


Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Omega MAn

2007-12-29 Thread Martin
Yes, Tracey, he has.

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
Hasn't he retired from public life as a result of Alzheimer's?

Astromancer wrote:
 NRA...

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, refresh my memory on that one...

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Pondering on this, Keith, I'm reminded that, in a sense, Heston has taken 
 this into real life.

 From my cold dead fingers. Ring a bell?

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've only seen The Omega Man on network TV, so 
 that scene was cut. I remember liking the movie, and shaking my head at the 
 ending. You ever notice how many times in movies Heston died at the end, but 
 in a noble, martyr-like way? In Omega man, he looks like nothing so much as 
 Christ on the Cross at the end. He also had a bloody, dramatic death in one 
 of the Planet of the Apes films. Indeed, isn't he the one who setoff the 
 Earth-destroying nuke in his death throes? And then there's El Cid, where he 
 dies at the end, yet is tied to his horse so that his body, riding onward on 
 the battlefield, can continue to inspire his men. My wife and I always laugh 
 at Heston in such roles...

 -- Original message -- 
 From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 I am a big fan of Omega Man. The late, great Rosalind Cash plays 
 the sassy black girl. Although she remains too thin for my taste, in 
 1971, when I was fifteen years old, her brief nude scene sho nuff ruled 
 my world. 

 ~rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
 I watched Omega Man and The Last Man on Earth yesterday via Netflix.
 All very good movies. I like Omega Man cause of the sassy blk girl
 Lisa. But I can see how they mashed both versions of the movies
 together to create the Will Smith movie. But see how I Am Legend is
 much more developed then the previous versions.

 If anyone is interested there is also a good movie that comes with The
 Last Man on Earth DVD called Panic in Year Zero. It was a really good
 film. No zombies but a good look at how if bombs hit people will go
 nuts.

 

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 organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A 
 Country

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Omega MAn

2007-12-29 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Sad  :(

Martin wrote:
 Yes, Tracey, he has.

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hasn't he retired from public life as a result of Alzheimer's?

 Astromancer wrote:
   
 NRA...

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, refresh my memory on that one...

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Pondering on this, Keith, I'm reminded that, in a sense, Heston has taken 
 this into real life.

 From my cold dead fingers. Ring a bell?

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've only seen The Omega Man on network TV, so 
 that scene was cut. I remember liking the movie, and shaking my head at the 
 ending. You ever notice how many times in movies Heston died at the end, but 
 in a noble, martyr-like way? In Omega man, he looks like nothing so much 
 as Christ on the Cross at the end. He also had a bloody, dramatic death in 
 one of the Planet of the Apes films. Indeed, isn't he the one who setoff the 
 Earth-destroying nuke in his death throes? And then there's El Cid, where he 
 dies at the end, yet is tied to his horse so that his body, riding onward on 
 the battlefield, can continue to inspire his men. My wife and I always laugh 
 at Heston in such roles...

 -- Original message -- 
 From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 I am a big fan of Omega Man. The late, great Rosalind Cash plays 
 the sassy black girl. Although she remains too thin for my taste, in 
 1971, when I was fifteen years old, her brief nude scene sho nuff ruled 
 my world. 

 ~rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:

 
 I watched Omega Man and The Last Man on Earth yesterday via Netflix.
 All very good movies. I like Omega Man cause of the sassy blk girl
 Lisa. But I can see how they mashed both versions of the movies
 together to create the Will Smith movie. But see how I Am Legend is
 much more developed then the previous versions.

 If anyone is interested there is also a good movie that comes with The
 Last Man on Earth DVD called Panic in Year Zero. It was a really good
 film. No zombies but a good look at how if bombs hit people will go
 nuts.


   
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 organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A 
 Country

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RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

2007-12-29 Thread Reece Jennings
Good for you and your family.  I find it impossible to be a recluse
and a spouse.  Tried it 3 times.  Almost made the bad choice again...
Luckily for her, I learned to recognize my patterns...
 
 Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and  Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com
http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ 
 
 
 

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 2:24 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(



I have struggled against the recluse thing ever since I had a lot of 
death in my immediate family. It is a hard habit to break. Fortunately 
during my worse periods I had pushy friends and family. Getting married 
and having a kid has forced me to resist these urges too. I do not want 
to inflict it on them.

Reece Jennings wrote:
 I hear you!
 
 Maurice Jennings
 Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
 KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
 Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho
http://www.legacyhomesavers.com mesavers.com
 http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ 
 
 
 

 _ 

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
On
 Behalf Of Astromancer
 Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 7:31 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(



 I am becoming a hardcore recluse...I really don't like going out any
more...

 Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com
yahoo.com
 wrote: I hear you. I'm not a crowd/life of the party type person either.
I'm
 a party voyeur...

 Maurice Jennings
 Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
 KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
 Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho
 http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com mesavers.com
mesavers.com
 http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyho
http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ mesavers.com/ 

 _ 

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
 On
 Behalf Of Martin
 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:50 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

 No, I'm eternally uncomfy in public sitches. I'm the guy who makes one
round
 to make himself known to those I want to be known to, then finds a corner
to
 cower in for the remainder of the party. Forty-three years of life it's
 taken me to find three people like myself.

 Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com
yahoo.com
 wrote: Do you still, Howard? I mean Martin? It seems to me that you'd be
the
 one who is comfortable in any crowd. Are you comfortable but feeling
 different from others? 

 I revel in being that way...now...LOL!

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
 On
 Behalf Of Martin
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:00 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

 Forgot to add on the literal duck out of water premise, which I
sympathize
 with daily. I've always felt out of place, even among the Technonerdati.

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: Wow!
 Thank you for making yourself vulnerable and opening up. Now the 
 question you had to anticipate... why?

 Martin wrote:
 
 Tracey, to put you at ease, I'm going to reveal one of my deepest,
darkest
 
 movie secrets.
 
 I love Howard the Duck.

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote:
 
 Keith

 I know you are disappointed in me, but for mindless fluff sitting in the 
 comfort of my home, I liked the first one. :(

 Martin wrote:

 
 But...but...I *wanna* throw away my money! Mindless stupididty is my
 
 milieu!
 
 KeithBJohnson@ 

RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

2007-12-29 Thread Martin
In the number as well.

Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I hear you!

Maurice Jennings
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Astromancer
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 7:31 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

I am becoming a hardcore recluse...I really don't like going out any more...

Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com
wrote: I hear you. I'm not a crowd/life of the party type person either. I'm
a party voyeur...

Maurice Jennings
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

No, I'm eternally uncomfy in public sitches. I'm the guy who makes one round
to make himself known to those I want to be known to, then finds a corner to
cower in for the remainder of the party. Forty-three years of life it's
taken me to find three people like myself.

Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com
wrote: Do you still, Howard? I mean Martin? It seems to me that you'd be the
one who is comfortable in any crowd. Are you comfortable but feeling
different from others? 

I revel in being that way...now...LOL!

Maurice Jennings
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

Forgot to add on the literal duck out of water premise, which I sympathize
with daily. I've always felt out of place, even among the Technonerdati.

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: Wow!
Thank you for making yourself vulnerable and opening up. Now the 
question you had to anticipate... why?

Martin wrote:
 Tracey, to put you at ease, I'm going to reveal one of my deepest, darkest
movie secrets.
 
 I love Howard the Duck.

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote:
 Keith

 I know you are disappointed in me, but for mindless fluff sitting in the 
 comfort of my home, I liked the first one. :(

 Martin wrote:
 
 But...but...I *wanna* throw away my money! Mindless stupididty is my
milieu!

 KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: I
really hope none of you fine people contributed any ducats to making
National Treasure 2 the number one movie over the Christmas weekend. I
tried to watch the first movie a couple of years ago, on a Sunday night, as
background noise while I cleaned up. I turned it off with 45 minutes to go.
Silly concepts, preposterous occurrences, autopilot acting by Cage and
Voight (just show me the money!!). Not fun or clever or engaging at all.
Despite what some think of me, i'm not a movie snob, don't have a thing
against low brow humour (saw Knocked Up recently and loved it) or mindless
action flicks. Im the guy who will watch The Warriors every single time
it airs (much to my wife's consternation!) And Face Off? Pure cinematic
pleasure of adrenalin, over-the-top acting, and things that go boom!. Love
that flick.
 But National Treasure sucked, and I hear the sequel is even dumber in
plot. Mount Rushmore built just to hide a city of gold. A secret book passed
down from one President to another that details, among other things, the
truth of what's kept in Area 51? Brotherrr!

 Please tell me none of you watched it?

 

 National Treasure sleighs Christmas box office 
 Tue Dec 25, 2:27 PM ET 
 Nicolas Cage's adventure sequel National Treasure: Book of Secrets
raced to $65 million during 

RE: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-29 Thread Martin
LMNAO!!!

Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  That's how we got Michael 
Jackson to join...ok, bad joke!

Maurice Jennings
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 8:47 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

I'm in. As long as I get to kiss babies.

Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com
wrote: I think we have the basis for a new political party!

The Contrarian Party...

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
On
Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

Well then I'm one too, because I agree with much that you say

KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote:
 true, or maybe i'm just a contrarian!

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com 

 Maybe the likelihood of the movie earning more money is raised with 
 those demographics - or maybe our culture is just youth obsessed

 KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote:
 
 and 18 -25 year olds only watch movies staring others their age? Wasn't
that way when I was 18 - 25? That's up there with boys only watch movies
about boys and whites only watch movies staring whites (and Will Smith)

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Mike Street streetforce1@ mailto:streetforce1%40gmail.com
gmail.com 
 This pretty much started with the 80's moves that started Molly
 Ringwald and the likes in the Brat Pack. Those movies where so popular
 that more and more of them started to be turned out as marketers saw a
 new market as the baby boomers started getting older and older.

 We can move forward to Gen X, Gen Y, and now the MySpace/YouTube Gen
 where all of the money is being made and spent. It all has to do with
 where you should be spending your ad dollars at. Right now the big
 spend is all for online social media and that demographic is mainly
 18-25.

 On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 AM, KeithBJohnson@
mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote:

 


 see, that's what confuses me. When i was younger, i of course related to
 films and TV shows that had people close to my age. But at the same
time, i
 absolutely enjoyed movies and shows that had people significantly older
than
 i was then. i didn't have an issue when i was 19 watching a James Bond
who
 was clearly in his late '30s or early '40s. Didn't complain about Kirk
being
 34-which is old to some---when i was only 14. Never said McCoy is too
old
 about Bones. Even in the comic world back in the day, the typical age
for
 many superheroes was around 28, some a bit younger like Peter Parker,
some a
 bit older like Stephen Strange or Reed Richards. But still, that's darn
 close to 30 and i never had a problem with it. Now, the likes of Alias,
 Buffy, and others seems to focus more on kids 18 - 25, with 25 being at
the
 high end. And contrast Wonder Woman, where Lynda Carter was 25 when the
 series started, with Joss Whedon's goal when he was on the project to
craft
 a Wonder Woman barel
 y out of her teens.

 I went back and looked at classic action and scifi films from back in
the
 day. From The Towering Inferno and The Poseidon Adventure to The
Omega
 Man and Bullitt. In many, many of those old films--which set the
standard
 for their day--the stars were typically middle-aged. I found ranges from
 early 30s on the low end to mid-50s in the likes of Ernest Borgnine and
Paul
 Newman. There were of course youngsters, but even the lesser known stars
in
 these films are about a decade older than the characters Abrams and crew
 seem to favor.

 So what changed? Is it just the likes of Abrams and Joss Whedon who love
 the younger stars? Is Hollywood more focused on younger stars because
kids
 have more disposable income nowadays and thus support movies with these
 characters more?


 -- Original message --
 From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com

Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for Cloverfield

2007-12-29 Thread Martin
I will not watch the SciFi Channel's most dangerous night on television.
   
  I'd say it more than once, but I'm afraid of the Beetlejuice Effect...

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, 
and 
do not even consider watching the so-called most dangerous night on 
television. It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is 
rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of 
campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a 
scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no 
exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, 
but it will not happen.

Now, repeat after me...
I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television
I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television
I will not watch The Scifi Channel's most dangerous night on television

Astromancer wrote:
 Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or 
 insects

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Even so, I like shows with sea monsters

 Martin wrote:
 
 Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi...

 Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all 
 have one common element.

 Hideous eight-legged creatures.

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I found script 
 reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to 
 know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm 
 actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used 
 to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with 
 the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly 
 too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was 
 for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. 

 Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of 
 this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, 
 so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film 
 school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, 
 shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for 
 the character development as well as the chills and thrills

 I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my 
 Netflix que

 I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic 
 bomb experience. But I have no idea

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know 
 what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having 
 come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait 
 until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. 
 I'll read some more about the movie, though.

 I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's 
 long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly 
 scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening 
 Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear 
 the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant 
 monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant 
 monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters 
 to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, 
 or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being 
 afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. 

 I hear the movie The Host was really good, but it didn't do big box 
 office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six 
 million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's House of 
 1000 Corpses, which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only 
 four million overseas.

 Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves 
 or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? 

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) 
 Try these sites from imdb

 There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, 
 through which you can find other characters in the movie. 
 Rob--http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins

 www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 
 this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of 
 the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video 
 diary for her boyfriend. The password for the video is jllovesth. There 
 are 5 videos so far.

 www.theblairgodzillaproject.com 
 is another new site that shows the characters and films that inspired 
 J.J. Abrams to make the film.

 http://www.slusho.jp/. This site is designed to appear as a commercial 
 website about a fictitious beverage called 'Slusho' 

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Omega MAn

2007-12-29 Thread Bosco Bosco
Rent Bowling For Columbine and you might have a different perspective
on 100% Total Scumbag that goes by the name Charleton Heston. 

Bosco
--- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sad  :(
 
 Martin wrote:
  Yes, Tracey, he has.
 
  Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hasn't he
 retired from public life as a result of Alzheimer's?
 
  Astromancer wrote:

  NRA...
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, refresh my memory on that
 one...
 
  -- Original message -- 
  From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Pondering on this, Keith, I'm reminded that, in a sense, Heston
 has taken this into real life.
 
  From my cold dead fingers. Ring a bell?
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've only seen The Omega Man
 on network TV, so that scene was cut. I remember liking the movie,
 and shaking my head at the ending. You ever notice how many times
 in movies Heston died at the end, but in a noble, martyr-like way?
 In Omega man, he looks like nothing so much as Christ on the
 Cross at the end. He also had a bloody, dramatic death in one of
 the Planet of the Apes films. Indeed, isn't he the one who setoff
 the Earth-destroying nuke in his death throes? And then there's El
 Cid, where he dies at the end, yet is tied to his horse so that his
 body, riding onward on the battlefield, can continue to inspire his
 men. My wife and I always laugh at Heston in such roles...
 
  -- Original message -- 
  From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  I am a big fan of Omega Man. The late, great Rosalind Cash
 plays 
  the sassy black girl. Although she remains too thin for my
 taste, in 
  1971, when I was fifteen years old, her brief nude scene sho
 nuff ruled 
  my world. 
 
  ~rave!
 
  --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mike Street
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
 
  
  I watched Omega Man and The Last Man on Earth yesterday via
 Netflix.
  All very good movies. I like Omega Man cause of the sassy blk
 girl
  Lisa. But I can see how they mashed both versions of the movies
  together to create the Will Smith movie. But see how I Am
 Legend is
  much more developed then the previous versions.
 
  If anyone is interested there is also a good movie that comes
 with The
  Last Man on Earth DVD called Panic in Year Zero. It was a
 really good
  film. No zombies but a good look at how if bombs hit people
 will go
  nuts.
 
 

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I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said.

You know these things that happen,
That's just the way it's supposed to be.
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Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

2007-12-29 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
My husband has a split reclusive/ social personality as well.  So, we 
encourage each other to get alone time.  This was especially important 
when we were working with the business full-time.

You are so community spirited online.  How did number 4 take it?

Reece Jennings wrote:
 Good for you and your family.  I find it impossible to be a recluse
 and a spouse.  Tried it 3 times.  Almost made the bad choice again...
 Luckily for her, I learned to recognize my patterns...
  
  Maurice Jennings
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 From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
 Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 2:24 PM
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(



 I have struggled against the recluse thing ever since I had a lot of 
 death in my immediate family. It is a hard habit to break. Fortunately 
 during my worse periods I had pushy friends and family. Getting married 
 and having a kid has forced me to resist these urges too. I do not want 
 to inflict it on them.

 Reece Jennings wrote:
   
 I hear you!

 Maurice Jennings
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 KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
 On
   
 Behalf Of Astromancer
 Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 7:31 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(



 I am becoming a hardcore recluse...I really don't like going out any
 
 more...
   
 Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com
 
 yahoo.com
   
 wrote: I hear you. I'm not a crowd/life of the party type person either.
 
 I'm
   
 a party voyeur...

 Maurice Jennings
 Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
 KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
 On
 Behalf Of Martin
 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:50 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

 No, I'm eternally uncomfy in public sitches. I'm the guy who makes one
 
 round
   
 to make himself known to those I want to be known to, then finds a corner
 
 to
   
 cower in for the remainder of the party. Forty-three years of life it's
 taken me to find three people like myself.

 Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com
 
 yahoo.com
   
 wrote: Do you still, Howard? I mean Martin? It seems to me that you'd be
 
 the
   
 one who is comfortable in any crowd. Are you comfortable but feeling
 different from others? 

 I revel in being that way...now...LOL!

 Maurice Jennings
 Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
 KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
 Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho
 http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyho
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
 On
 Behalf Of Martin
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:00 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

 Forgot to add on the literal duck out of water premise, which I
 
 sympathize
   
 with daily. I've always felt out of place, even among the Technonerdati.

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: Wow!
 Thank you for making yourself vulnerable and opening up. Now the 
 question you had to anticipate... why?

 Martin wrote:

 
 Tracey, to put you at ease, I'm going to 

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Omega MAn

2007-12-29 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
I can not stand him. I can not stand guns or right-wing load mouths like 
him.  Played with a gun at age five - thought it was a surprise gift (no 
one was hurt)   But their are so many creepy performers out their whose 
work I like, that I  have learned to try to separate them from their 
craft.  Part of me felt redeemed when I heard, but I felt sad for the 
lost of the performer at the same time.  I loved him in Soylent Green, 
Omega Man, Planet of the Apes, and Touch of Evil.  It is because of him, 
I discovered and admired Rosalind Cash.  Despite being a right wing 
jerk, he seemed to have no problem with hiring Black women as leads ( 
never got that - tried to see something dark and sinister in it, but I 
have not yet figured any thing out)I grief for the performer/ I glad 
the gun advocate is silenced. 

Bosco Bosco wrote:
 Rent Bowling For Columbine and you might have a different perspective
 on 100% Total Scumbag that goes by the name Charleton Heston. 

 Bosco
 --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 Sad  :(

 Martin wrote:
 
 Yes, Tracey, he has.

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
   
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hasn't he
 retired from public life as a result of Alzheimer's?
 
 Astromancer wrote:
   
   
 NRA...

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, refresh my memory on that
 
 one...
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Pondering on this, Keith, I'm reminded that, in a sense, Heston
 
 has taken this into real life.
 
 From my cold dead fingers. Ring a bell?

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've only seen The Omega Man
 
 on network TV, so that scene was cut. I remember liking the movie,
 and shaking my head at the ending. You ever notice how many times
 in movies Heston died at the end, but in a noble, martyr-like way?
 In Omega man, he looks like nothing so much as Christ on the
 Cross at the end. He also had a bloody, dramatic death in one of
 the Planet of the Apes films. Indeed, isn't he the one who setoff
 the Earth-destroying nuke in his death throes? And then there's El
 Cid, where he dies at the end, yet is tied to his horse so that his
 body, riding onward on the battlefield, can continue to inspire his
 men. My wife and I always laugh at Heston in such roles...
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 I am a big fan of Omega Man. The late, great Rosalind Cash
 
 plays 
 
 the sassy black girl. Although she remains too thin for my
 
 taste, in 
 
 1971, when I was fifteen years old, her brief nude scene sho
 
 nuff ruled 
 
 my world. 

 ~rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mike Street
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 wrote:

 
 
 I watched Omega Man and The Last Man on Earth yesterday via
   
 Netflix.
 
 All very good movies. I like Omega Man cause of the sassy blk
   
 girl
 
 Lisa. But I can see how they mashed both versions of the movies
 together to create the Will Smith movie. But see how I Am
   
 Legend is
 
 much more developed then the previous versions.

 If anyone is interested there is also a good movie that comes
   
 with The
 
 Last Man on Earth DVD called Panic in Year Zero. It was a
   
 really good
 
 film. No zombies but a good look at how if bombs hit people
   
 will go
 
 nuts.


   
   
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 There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels
 
 will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut,
 A Man Without A Country
 
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 Mobile. Try it now.
 
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 Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your
 
 life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too
 many questions, you might say something that interests the
 Community, and you really, really don't want to get them
 interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie
 
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 A Man Without A Country
 

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[scifinoir2] Re: SF Movies coming Up in 2008

2007-12-29 Thread maidmarian_thepoet
Not a whole lot for me.  I want something more involved than comic
book heroes.  Nevertheless, I picked a few for nostalgia sake.  In
fact, most of these picks are based on nostalgia.  Maybe someday some
one will write a movie as literate as say, Gattaca, was.


The Chronicles Of Narnia: Prince Caspian
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
The Dark Knight
Hancock
The Dark Knight
Watchmen
The Hobbit

Since the market is based on young men, a lot of the others may hit big.  





Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

2007-12-29 Thread james
The Wife and I are strikingly different.  She is a heavy extrovert and
prone to being the life of a party.  Her skills as a former model,
multiple pageant winner, on-air personality (radio), television host, etc.
make it seem effortless.  She turns it on like flicking a switch at
parties and public events.

I prefer to be behind the scenes a bit more.  In the office, I have to
make an effort to self-promote as my natural tendency is to let my work
speak for itself while I get trampled by those who underperform, yet have
mastered the art of self-promotion (I believe Keith posted similar
sentiments a few months ago).  Through my websites and as a media contact
for Veterans for Common Sense, I've done several TV and radio appearances
and a lot of print media interviews, but only reluctantly.  I've turned
down more than I've accepted.  I much prefer to let my written words speak
for me via my writings.  Over the next few years, I'll be putting out a
book related to some of advocacy work, which will require active PR and
appearances. (sigh)

At social events, while The Wife is on and entertaining, I prefer to
relax in a quiet corner, nursing my drink with a friend or two.  I'm the
guy you think is not having fun, but I'm really analyzing the guests and
storing data about who I've met or talked with that night.  At home, I
need that quiet time with a book or my laptop.  Or at a coffee shop for a
bit on the way home from work.  My blog and commentary persona are nothing
like my meatspace personality.

I'm not shy.  I just prefer to observe and think.  I hate small talk and
refuse to speak just for the sake of speaking.  When I do speak, it is
because I have something real to add to the conversation.  I abhor hoopla
and I suck at entertaining.

I'm not the guy screaming his head off at sporting events or concerts.  If
you see me at a concert, it'll likely be a more intimate club like the
Birchmere - listening to a band, sipping a margarita - just enjoying the
music.

And I hate being asked if something is wrong.

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Tracey said:

 My husband has a split reclusive/ social personality as well.  So, we
 encourage each other to get alone time.  This was especially important
 when we were working with the business full-time.

 You are so community spirited online.  How did number 4 take it?

 Reece Jennings wrote:
 Good for you and your family.  I find it impossible to be a recluse
 and a spouse.  Tried it 3 times.  Almost made the bad choice again...
 Luckily for her, I learned to recognize my patterns...

  Maurice Jennings
 Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
 KEEP your home and  Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Omega MAn

2007-12-29 Thread Martin
Bosco, don't need to go that far for proof.

Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Rent Bowling For Columbine and 
you might have a different perspective
on 100% Total Scumbag that goes by the name Charleton Heston. 

Bosco
--- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sad :(
 
 Martin wrote:
  Yes, Tracey, he has.
 
  Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hasn't he
 retired from public life as a result of Alzheimer's?
 
  Astromancer wrote:
  
  NRA...
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, refresh my memory on that
 one...
 
  -- Original message -- 
  From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Pondering on this, Keith, I'm reminded that, in a sense, Heston
 has taken this into real life.
 
  From my cold dead fingers. Ring a bell?
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've only seen The Omega Man
 on network TV, so that scene was cut. I remember liking the movie,
 and shaking my head at the ending. You ever notice how many times
 in movies Heston died at the end, but in a noble, martyr-like way?
 In Omega man, he looks like nothing so much as Christ on the
 Cross at the end. He also had a bloody, dramatic death in one of
 the Planet of the Apes films. Indeed, isn't he the one who setoff
 the Earth-destroying nuke in his death throes? And then there's El
 Cid, where he dies at the end, yet is tied to his horse so that his
 body, riding onward on the battlefield, can continue to inspire his
 men. My wife and I always laugh at Heston in such roles...
 
  -- Original message -- 
  From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  I am a big fan of Omega Man. The late, great Rosalind Cash
 plays 
  the sassy black girl. Although she remains too thin for my
 taste, in 
  1971, when I was fifteen years old, her brief nude scene sho
 nuff ruled 
  my world. 
 
  ~rave!
 
  --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Mike Street
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
 
  
  I watched Omega Man and The Last Man on Earth yesterday via
 Netflix.
  All very good movies. I like Omega Man cause of the sassy blk
 girl
  Lisa. But I can see how they mashed both versions of the movies
  together to create the Will Smith movie. But see how I Am
 Legend is
  much more developed then the previous versions.
 
  If anyone is interested there is also a good movie that comes
 with The
  Last Man on Earth DVD called Panic in Year Zero. It was a
 really good
  film. No zombies but a good look at how if bombs hit people
 will go
  nuts.
 
 
  
  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
  There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels
 will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut,
 A Man Without A Country
 
  -
  Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo!
 Mobile. Try it now.
 
  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your
 life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too
 many questions, you might say something that interests the
 Community, and you really, really don't want to get them
 interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie
 
  -
  Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with
 Yahoo! Search.
 
  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
 
 
 
  Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
 
 
  
 
 
  There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels
 will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut,
 A Man Without A Country
  
  -
  Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo!
 Mobile. Try it now.
 
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I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead.
I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said.

You know these things that happen,
That's just the way it's supposed to be.
And I can't help but wonder,
Don't ya know it coulda been me.

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RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

2007-12-29 Thread Reece Jennings
It's been a year.  I still give her access to my house (she has a key), but
I'm afraid I'm sending
mixed messages by doing that.  To me, if somebody says We're friends.  No
more sex.  It's 
complicating the fact that I'm NOT going to marry you, and do NOT want a
relationship past
friendship, I would quickly say, ok.  I understand.  Here is your key.
 
But I got to see how many REALLY foul words she knew!  I tried to tell her
how lucky she was
to find out before we (I, actually) did anything stupid like marrying her,
but she just kept using
words I haven't used since my military days...well, maybe since last week...
 
But that was almost 6 months ago.  Now she's into subterfuge, trying to
change my mind.  :o)
 
She's really a nice lady (LADY), but she's too much like my  mother.
 
 Maurice Jennings
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 4:17 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(



My husband has a split reclusive/ social personality as well. So, we 
encourage each other to get alone time. This was especially important 
when we were working with the business full-time.

You are so community spirited online. How did number 4 take it?

Reece Jennings wrote:
 Good for you and your family. I find it impossible to be a recluse
 and a spouse. Tried it 3 times. Almost made the bad choice again...
 Luckily for her, I learned to recognize my patterns...
 
 Maurice Jennings
 Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
 KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
 Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
On
 Behalf Of Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
 Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 2:24 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(



 I have struggled against the recluse thing ever since I had a lot of 
 death in my immediate family. It is a hard habit to break. Fortunately 
 during my worse periods I had pushy friends and family. Getting married 
 and having a kid has forced me to resist these urges too. I do not want 
 to inflict it on them.

 Reece Jennings wrote:
 
 I hear you!

 Maurice Jennings
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 KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
 On
 
 Behalf Of Astromancer
 Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 7:31 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(



 I am becoming a hardcore recluse...I really don't like going out any
 
 more...
 
 Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com
 
 yahoo.com
 
 wrote: I hear you. I'm not a crowd/life of the party type person either.
 
 I'm
 
 a party voyeur...

 Maurice Jennings
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com
ups.com]
 On
 Behalf Of Martin
 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:50 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
 Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

 No, I'm eternally uncomfy in public sitches. I'm the guy who makes one
 
 round
 
 to make himself known to those I want to be known to, then finds a corner
 
 to
 
 cower in for the remainder of the party. Forty-three years of life it's
 taken me to find three people like myself.

 Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ 

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Omega MAn

2007-12-29 Thread Reece Jennings
100% Total Scumbag 
 
Now, now, B-B.  You really must learn how to express your TRUE feelings!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
 
I think CH got his attitudes from riding war chariots in Ben-Hur.  He
probably 
thought, Screw this wheel-chewing stuff!  Give me a Shotgun!!
 
 Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and  Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bosco Bosco
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 4:01 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Omega MAn



Rent Bowling For Columbine and you might have a different perspective
on 100% Total Scumbag that goes by the name Charleton Heston. 

Bosco
--- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com
aladvantage.com wrote:

 Sad :(
 
 Martin wrote:
  Yes, Tracey, he has.
 
  Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com
aladvantage.com wrote: Hasn't he
 retired from public life as a result of Alzheimer's?
 
  Astromancer wrote:
  
  NRA...
 
  KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote:
no, refresh my memory on that
 one...
 
  -- Original message -- 
  From: Martin truthseeker_ mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Pondering on this, Keith, I'm reminded that, in a sense, Heston
 has taken this into real life.
 
  From my cold dead fingers. Ring a bell?
 
  KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote:
i've only seen The Omega Man
 on network TV, so that scene was cut. I remember liking the movie,
 and shaking my head at the ending. You ever notice how many times
 in movies Heston died at the end, but in a noble, martyr-like way?
 In Omega man, he looks like nothing so much as Christ on the
 Cross at the end. He also had a bloody, dramatic death in one of
 the Planet of the Apes films. Indeed, isn't he the one who setoff
 the Earth-destroying nuke in his death throes? And then there's El
 Cid, where he dies at the end, yet is tied to his horse so that his
 body, riding onward on the battlefield, can continue to inspire his
 men. My wife and I always laugh at Heston in such roles...
 
  -- Original message -- 
  From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:ravenadal%40yahoo.com com

  I am a big fan of Omega Man. The late, great Rosalind Cash
 plays 
  the sassy black girl. Although she remains too thin for my
 taste, in 
  1971, when I was fifteen years old, her brief nude scene sho
 nuff ruled 
  my world. 
 
  ~rave!
 
  --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com
ups.com, Mike Street
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
 
  
  I watched Omega Man and The Last Man on Earth yesterday via
 Netflix.
  All very good movies. I like Omega Man cause of the sassy blk
 girl
  Lisa. But I can see how they mashed both versions of the movies
  together to create the Will Smith movie. But see how I Am
 Legend is
  much more developed then the previous versions.
 
  If anyone is interested there is also a good movie that comes
 with The
  Last Man on Earth DVD called Panic in Year Zero. It was a
 really good
  film. No zombies but a good look at how if bombs hit people
 will go
  nuts.
 
 
  
  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
  There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels
 will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut,
 A Man Without A Country
 
  -
  Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo!
 Mobile. Try it now.
 
  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Akin, but no matter what you think, I am concerned for your
 life, so I'll only say this once; if you talk too much or ask too
 many questions, you might say something that interests the
 Community, and you really, really don't want to get them
 interested. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie
 
  -
  Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with
 Yahoo! Search.
 
  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
 
 
 
  Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
 
 
  
 
 
  There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels
 will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut,
 A Man Without A Country
  
  -
  Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo!
 Mobile. Try it now.
 
  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
 
 
  
  Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
 

I got friends who are 

RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

2007-12-29 Thread Reece Jennings
I see another party forming...Tough to have a platform if we don't talk to
folks, though...
 
 Maurice Jennings
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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 3:39 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(



In the number as well.

Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com
wrote: I hear you!

Maurice Jennings
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KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
On
Behalf Of Astromancer
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 7:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

I am becoming a hardcore recluse...I really don't like going out any more...

Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com
wrote: I hear you. I'm not a crowd/life of the party type person either. I'm
a party voyeur...

Maurice Jennings
Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure?
KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks!
Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyho
http://www.legacyho http://www.legacyhomesavers.com mesavers.com
mesavers.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com]
On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

No, I'm eternally uncomfy in public sitches. I'm the guy who makes one round
to make himself known to those I want to be known to, then finds a corner to
cower in for the remainder of the party. Forty-three years of life it's
taken me to find three people like myself.

Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com
wrote: Do you still, Howard? I mean Martin? It seems to me that you'd be the
one who is comfortable in any crowd. Are you comfortable but feeling
different from others? 

I revel in being that way...now...LOL!

Maurice Jennings
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
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On
Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] National Treasure 2 Rules Box Office - :(

Forgot to add on the literal duck out of water premise, which I sympathize
with daily. I've always felt out of place, even among the Technonerdati.

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote: Wow!
Thank you for making yourself vulnerable and opening up. Now the 
question you had to anticipate... why?

Martin wrote:
 Tracey, to put you at ease, I'm going to reveal one of my deepest, darkest
movie secrets.
 
 I love Howard the Duck.

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com aladvantage.com wrote:
 Keith

 I know you are disappointed in me, but for mindless fluff sitting in the 
 comfort of my home, I liked the first one. :(

 Martin wrote:
 
 But...but...I *wanna* throw away my money! Mindless stupididty is my
milieu!

 KeithBJohnson@ mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net comcast.net wrote: I
really hope none of you fine people contributed any ducats to making
National Treasure 2 the number one movie over the Christmas weekend. I
tried to watch the first movie a couple of years ago, on a Sunday night, as
background noise while I cleaned up. I turned it off with 45 minutes to go.
Silly concepts, preposterous occurrences, autopilot acting by Cage and
Voight (just show me the money!!). Not