RE: [scifinoir2] Are you watching Prison Break?

2005-12-03 Thread Keith Johnson
Allow me to be man enough to admit: I was *completely* wrong! I
originally said I found Prison Break to be plodding, boring, and
depressing. (I've posted my first two e-mails on that from a few weeks
back).  I wondered if I could get engaged by the show, if the theme
would drag me down. So much for first impressions. Fortunately I almost
always try to give new shows at least two or three viewings before I
make the final judgement. Man am I glad I did so with Prison Break. I
think the fact that Tracey liked it helped, along with it having been
named a TV Guide Favorite, and growing buzz on the Net, which piqued my
interest.  A few weeks ago the FX channel aired a six-hour marathon,
complete with a making-of show and cast interviews. The documentary
impressed me enough to watch the marathon, which I did, hour after hour.
I started seeing a show that was smart, original, gritty, and above all,
suspenseful. I won't spoil any plot devices, but let's just say many
things aren't what you think at first. (Those in the know will remember
the discussion about taking out one of three man as an example).
There are amazing twists and turns that keep you guessing.  The star's
elaborate plan to break his brother out is wildly convoluted and
detailed, the kind of well-written fiction that's so
incredible-yet-believable, you put your disbelief on hold and just enjoy
the trip. That's good writing. Sub-plots about family, power and
corruption add to the drama. And of course there's the setting of the
prison itself, which is at times about intense as you can get on network
TV. Every week I find myself wondering how the escape plan can possibly
work, how the conspiracy can be revealed, how they'll deal with the
unexpected. It literally keeps on the edge of my seat.  You don't *have*
to watch every show to catch up, but it's highly advisable you do. That
I'd commit to staying with another series that makes me stay up-to-date
(Lost being the other) says a lot.
 
The last of the new shows aired this week, with more to return in
January. I'm assuming reruns will start next week. Do yourself and favor
and catch 'em.



 
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To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [scifinoir2] Are you watching Prison Break? 
 
Prison Break isn't moving me. I watched it recently and just couldn't 
get engrossed in the whole plot of the man sentenced to death for a 
crime he didn't commit. The idea of a guy getting inside the prison to 
break said innocent out is intriguing, but I'm not sure if they can 
build on it to hold my interest for an entire season. I'm afraid it'll 
become laborious slowly sifting through the unraveling mystery week 
after week. Takes special skill to pull off the one-theme show, 
something shows like Lost and 24 have managed to great effect. (I 
don't count the X-Files because despite its overwhelming theme of 
conspiracy and aliens, it had a huge number of standalone shows that 
introduced other topics). I'm trying to decide if I'll watch Prison 
Break again. Dominic Purcell, who plays the guy sentenced to death, is 
a good actor. He was very effective in John Doe, a great show (that 
incidentally also had a theme of a mystery slowly unfolding). Sadly 
that was cancelled. After that Purcell showed up as a leather pants 
wearing vampire in Blade: Trinity, a role that made me alternately 
laugh and groan at his character. I guess Prison Break is a step up 
from that fiasco of a film.  
 
(Second post)
...
I may be *way* off base, but it put me in mind of a show from a few
years back, Nowhere Man, starring Bruce Greenwood. I know they're not
the same, but the pacing seemed familiar. I like shows that have a
mystery theme, but sometimes such shows seem to drag and I find them too
plodding and heavy. It's as if they're weighed down with an overwhelming
sense of dread that tires me out.  Nowhere Man made an impression on
me for that reason, and I didn't really like it overall. Now, that being
said, I've loved other shows with a mystery at their core, such as the
aforementioned John Doe, Lost, The Pretender, etc.  Do ya think
it's because those shows, even when glum, have more lighthearted
moments? And I use the term lighthearted in a relative sense here.

I'm just trying to figure out why some shows of this structure draw me
in, while others turn me off.
 
 




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RE: [scifinoir2] Are you watching Prison Break?

2005-09-15 Thread KeithBJohnson
I may be *way* off base, but it put me in mind of a show from a few years back, 
Nowhere Man, starring Bruce Greenwood. I know they're not the same, but the 
pacing seemed familiar. I like shows that have a mystery theme, but sometimes 
such shows seem to drag and I find them too plodding and heavy. It's as if 
they're weighed down with an overwhelming sense of dread that tires me out.  
Nowhere Man made an impression on me for that reason, and I didn't really 
like it overall. Now, that being said, I've loved other shows with a mystery at 
their core, such as the aforementioned John Doe, Lost, The Pretender, 
etc.  Do ya think it's because those shows, even when glum, have more 
lighthearted moments? And I use the term lighthearted in a relative sense 
here.

I'm just trying to figure out why some shows of this structure draw me in, 
while others turn me off.
-- Original message -- 

 Maybe it is because i caught the first episode and it involves a 
 presidential conspiracy and the fact that they break out early in the show, 
 But i love the show!!! I'm glad they gave a brother the lead - yes the 
 engineer step brother is a brother. - I think he is a good actor. He got 
 lots of press attention for his work with Anthony Hopkins in the Human 
 Stain. 
 
 Keith are you sure the reason you don't like it that they are no sisters 
 with great asses in it? Just kidding. I know better. 
 
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 Behalf Of Keith Johnson 
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 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Are you watching Prison Break? 
 
 
 Prison Break isn't moving me. I watched it recently and just couldn't 
 get engrossed in the whole plot of the man sentenced to death for a 
 crime he didn't commit. The idea of a guy getting inside the prison to 
 break said innocent out is intriguing, but I'm not sure if they can 
 build on it to hold my interest for an entire season. I'm afraid it'll 
 become laborious slowly sifting through the unraveling mystery week 
 after week. Takes special skill to pull off the one-theme show, 
 something shows like Lost and 24 have managed to great effect. (I 
 don't count the X-Files because despite its overwhelming theme of 
 conspiracy and aliens, it had a huge number of standalone shows that 
 introduced other topics). I'm trying to decide if I'll watch Prison 
 Break again. Dominic Purcell, who plays the guy sentenced to death, is 
 a good actor. He was very effective in John Doe, a great show (that 
 incidentally also had a theme of a mystery slowly unfolding). Sadly 
 that was cancelled. After that Purcell showed up as a leather pants 
 wearing vampire in Blade: Trinity, a role that made me alternately 
 laugh and groan at his character. I guess Prison Break is a step up 
 from that fiasco of a film. 
 
 
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RE: [scifinoir2] Are you watching Prison Break?

2005-09-15 Thread Yusuf Chaotic/Omavi
I don't know about Prison Break.  The whole concept of the show is just not 
very interesting to me.  I think the only prison show i've ever midly enjoyed 
is Oz.  I watch the first and wasnt overly impressed but I will probably 
watch two or three more just to make sure i am not missing anything ..

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Keith are you sure the reason you don't like it that 
they are no sisters 
 with great asses in it? Just kidding. I know better. 

You cut me to the quick! I'd never let a comely lady's assets dictate whether 
or not I watch a show or movie! If I did, shows like All of Us and Charmed 
would be on my list of shows to watch, and they ain't! I'd have been glued to 
the TV to salivate over Seven of Nine on Voyager, instead of missing over two 
seasons of that series during its first run.  And Lord knows, I'd *own* a copy 
of Trois, starring Kenya Moore (in a menage a trois to boot!) But nope, even 
Kenya's not enough for me. Trois is so laughably bad I can't stomach it more 
than once.

Maybe I need to give Prison Break a chance. I try to do that for all new 
shows for at least the first month. 


-- Original message -- 

 Maybe it is because i caught the first episode and it involves a 
 presidential conspiracy and the fact that they break out early in the show, 
 But i love the show!!! I'm glad they gave a brother the lead - yes the 
 engineer step brother is a brother. - I think he is a good actor. He got 
 lots of press attention for his work with Anthony Hopkins in the Human 
 Stain. 
 
 Keith are you sure the reason you don't like it that they are no sisters 
 with great asses in it? Just kidding. I know better. 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Behalf Of Keith Johnson 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 9:53 PM 
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Are you watching Prison Break? 
 
 
 Prison Break isn't moving me. I watched it recently and just couldn't 
 get engrossed in the whole plot of the man sentenced to death for a 
 crime he didn't commit. The idea of a guy getting inside the prison to 
 break said innocent out is intriguing, but I'm not sure if they can 
 build on it to hold my interest for an entire season. I'm afraid it'll 
 become laborious slowly sifting through the unraveling mystery week 
 after week. Takes special skill to pull off the one-theme show, 
 something shows like Lost and 24 have managed to great effect. (I 
 don't count the X-Files because despite its overwhelming theme of 
 conspiracy and aliens, it had a huge number of standalone shows that 
 introduced other topics). I'm trying to decide if I'll watch Prison 
 Break again. Dominic Purcell, who plays the guy sentenced to death, is 
 a good actor. He was very effective in John Doe, a great show (that 
 incidentally also had a theme of a mystery slowly unfolding). Sadly 
 that was cancelled. After that Purcell showed up as a leather pants 
 wearing vampire in Blade: Trinity, a role that made me alternately 
 laugh and groan at his character. I guess Prison Break is a step up 
 from that fiasco of a film. 
 
 
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RE: [scifinoir2] Are you watching Prison Break?

2005-09-15 Thread Tracey de Morsella \(formerly Tracey L. Minor\)
It does remind me of Nowhere Man.  While I like this show, I have to admit I
hate prison pictures.  Additionally, it is very dark.  After the 2 hour
premier, I felt like I needed a belt of liquor to recover.  I think it ended
with them cutting of the guys toe.  the producers claim that it is not going
to stay a prison show in the tradition of OZ and that it will be have human
in it.  I have seen humor in it, but with one brother on death row and the
other brother making enemies with some real scary characters, it is hard to
feel if.   my husband feels as you do.  I think he likes it, but he can not
take the oppressive mood.

I find most things on TV very formulaic and pedestrian.  Very little time is
spent to develop characters or even the story.  I think Lost may have
changed that and maybe saved science fiction.  But with a glut of CSIs, Law
and Orders, unfunny comedies, and un-reality TV shows, I find myself
starving for shows that  force you to pay attention and in which you do not
necessarily know what is going to happen next.   For me Prison Break does
that.  If they break out sometime soon and the mood lightens as the
producers promise, they will have me.  If this were about five years ago,
when there was more mystery, thriller, and scifi programming, I'm not sure
if i would be watching.  I also was curious about why critics have be raving
about this show for so long. That curiosity caused me to watch the premier
in the first place.

So, I really do understand and even relate to your feelings about the show.
I just like teasing you about Kenya Moore

What are your feeling about a Black(biracial) actor playing what seems to be
a white lead?

Tracey

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Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 7:39 AM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Are you watching Prison Break?


I may be *way* off base, but it put me in mind of a show from a few years
back, Nowhere Man, starring Bruce Greenwood. I know they're not the same,
but the pacing seemed familiar. I like shows that have a mystery theme, but
sometimes such shows seem to drag and I find them too plodding and heavy.
It's as if they're weighed down with an overwhelming sense of dread that
tires me out.  Nowhere Man made an impression on me for that reason, and I
didn't really like it overall. Now, that being said, I've loved other shows
with a mystery at their core, such as the aforementioned John Doe, Lost,
The Pretender, etc.  Do ya think it's because those shows, even when glum,
have more lighthearted moments? And I use the term lighthearted in a
relative sense here.

I'm just trying to figure out why some shows of this structure draw me in,
while others turn me off.
-- Original message --

 Maybe it is because i caught the first episode and it involves a
 presidential conspiracy and the fact that they break out early in the
show,
 But i love the show!!! I'm glad they gave a brother the lead - yes the
 engineer step brother is a brother. - I think he is a good actor. He got
 lots of press attention for his work with Anthony Hopkins in the Human
 Stain.

 Keith are you sure the reason you don't like it that they are no sisters
 with great asses in it? Just kidding. I know better.

 -Original Message-
 From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Behalf Of Keith Johnson
 Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 9:53 PM
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Are you watching Prison Break?


 Prison Break isn't moving me. I watched it recently and just couldn't
 get engrossed in the whole plot of the man sentenced to death for a
 crime he didn't commit. The idea of a guy getting inside the prison to
 break said innocent out is intriguing, but I'm not sure if they can
 build on it to hold my interest for an entire season. I'm afraid it'll
 become laborious slowly sifting through the unraveling mystery week
 after week. Takes special skill to pull off the one-theme show,
 something shows like Lost and 24 have managed to great effect. (I
 don't count the X-Files because despite its overwhelming theme of
 conspiracy and aliens, it had a huge number of standalone shows that
 introduced other topics). I'm trying to decide if I'll watch Prison
 Break again. Dominic Purcell, who plays the guy sentenced to death, is
 a good actor. He was very effective in John Doe, a great show (that
 incidentally also had a theme of a mystery slowly unfolding). Sadly
 that was cancelled. After that Purcell showed up as a leather pants
 wearing vampire in Blade: Trinity, a role that made me alternately
 laugh and groan at his character. I guess Prison Break is a step up
 from that fiasco of a film.


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[scifinoir2] Are you watching Prison Break?

2005-09-14 Thread Keith Johnson
Prison Break isn't moving me. I watched it recently and just  couldn't
get engrossed in the whole plot of the man sentenced to death for a
crime he didn't commit.  The idea of a guy getting inside the prison to
break said innocent out is intriguing, but I'm not sure if they can
build on it to hold my interest for an entire season.  I'm afraid it'll
become laborious slowly sifting through the unraveling mystery week
after week. Takes special skill to pull off the one-theme show,
something shows like Lost and 24 have  managed to great effect. (I
don't count the X-Files because despite its overwhelming theme of
conspiracy and aliens, it had a huge number of standalone shows  that
introduced other topics). I'm trying to decide if I'll watch Prison
Break again. Dominic Purcell, who plays the guy sentenced to death, is
a good actor. He was very effective in John Doe, a great show (that
incidentally also had a theme of a  mystery slowly unfolding). Sadly
that was cancelled. After that Purcell showed up as a leather pants
wearing vampire in Blade: Trinity, a role that made me alternately
laugh and groan at his character.  I guess Prison Break is a step up
from that fiasco of a film.


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RE: [scifinoir2] Are you watching Prison Break?

2005-09-14 Thread Tracey de Morsella \(formerly Tracey L. Minor\)
Maybe it is because i caught the first episode and it involves a
presidential conspiracy and the fact that they break out early in the show,
But i love the show!!!   I'm glad they gave a brother the lead - yes the
engineer step brother is a brother.   - I think he is a good actor.  He got
lots of press attention for his work with Anthony Hopkins in the Human
Stain.

Keith are you sure the reason you don't like it that they are no sisters
with great asses in it?  Just kidding.  I know better.

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From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Keith Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 9:53 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [scifinoir2] Are you watching Prison Break?


Prison Break isn't moving me. I watched it recently and just  couldn't
get engrossed in the whole plot of the man sentenced to death for a
crime he didn't commit.  The idea of a guy getting inside the prison to
break said innocent out is intriguing, but I'm not sure if they can
build on it to hold my interest for an entire season.  I'm afraid it'll
become laborious slowly sifting through the unraveling mystery week
after week. Takes special skill to pull off the one-theme show,
something shows like Lost and 24 have  managed to great effect. (I
don't count the X-Files because despite its overwhelming theme of
conspiracy and aliens, it had a huge number of standalone shows  that
introduced other topics). I'm trying to decide if I'll watch Prison
Break again. Dominic Purcell, who plays the guy sentenced to death, is
a good actor. He was very effective in John Doe, a great show (that
incidentally also had a theme of a  mystery slowly unfolding). Sadly
that was cancelled. After that Purcell showed up as a leather pants
wearing vampire in Blade: Trinity, a role that made me alternately
laugh and groan at his character.  I guess Prison Break is a step up
from that fiasco of a film.


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