RE: [scifinoir2] RE: Scifi on TV
No, but I'll start. You may find it hard to believe, but most of these things come right off the top of my head.Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You need to keep a list of cool one-liners and tag lines. That "Pretty boys" thing is great. Be perfect in a review, or as a title for a review. do you keep a list of neat sayings like that?
-Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin PrattSent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 20:52To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [scifinoir2] RE: Scifi on TV
Yep, none other than Rex "You Take My Breath Away" Smith (even after twenty-plus years, that song's worth a laugh). I won't try to defend Viper. I just liked it. As for "Stingray", the closest to an ending I remember was an ep in which his past came back to almost bite him on the can. He almost had to give up his "favor-for-a-favor" gig, if not for one of his favors being a Government big-wig who stepped in long enough to let him slip away. Therewere two more eps before the show ended, if I remember right. Oh, and "Riptide"! Two pretty boys who would've been LOST without a geek. The way the world REALLY works.Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Street Hawk's star was former pop idol and broadway star ("Pirates of Penzance") Rex Smith, wasn't it? I never got Viper. Seemed kinda low-rent to me. Stingray was definitely cool. I remember one show when the star was arrested and printed. His prints were sent off for matching and he kept telling the arresting officer "You're wasting your time". The officer felt he had the guy, until the results came back: a fax showing a young Black man! Never did figure out his story, and how did the show end?
Gotta tell you, that was another Stephen J. Cannell show, and he had a long run of good ones, from 21 Jump Street to Riptide to Hunter to (yes, even) A-Team.
-Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin PrattSent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 19:47To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [scifinoir2] RE: Scifi on TV
Anything BUT. Street Hawk didn't do much for me, but Stingray was even cooler to me than The Equalizer, which I loved. Possibly the idea that Stingray might have some obscure government connection held some interest for a budding conspiracy theorist. Viper, I hadevery epon video, got rid of them only because I began to convert my video collection to DVD and ran into a little thing called unemployment a few weeks in.Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now what do you have against the story of a man and his car? At least they got rid of KITT's voice and the cheesy '80s music done by anyone but the original artists (didn't they? I never watched the Knight Rider redux series). As for men and their vehicles, did you like Street Hawk, Stingray, or Viper?
-Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin PrattSent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 15:02To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [scifinoir2] RE: Scifi on TV
That it was. I came to like "Vanishing Son" more than any of the sci-fi shows. "TekWar" had me for all of a month, and let's not discuss "Knight Rider" in ANY incarnation. "The story of a car and his man."Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I watched Time Trax maybe twice, but never got into it, and I think it was gone before I got around to trying.Was it part of theso-called "Action Pack" that came out a few years ago? Remember that? It was a block of shows that would air together, including "Vanishing Son" (the martial arts themed show starring Russell Wong), "Knight Rider: 2000", "Hercules", "TekWar", "Xena", and maybe a few others. It was shows that I think were from Universal. At any rate, the Action Pack music would play and they'd show scenes from all the above shows. Usually it'd air on Saturdays and Sundays, and there'd be 2 -3 hours of series in the group. Even after the other shows were all cancelled, Hercules and Xena would still often be introduced as part of the Action Pack. I used to love that gimmick even if all the shows weren't that great. It was just the ability to watch a block of scifi on Saturday
afternoons that I loved...
-Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin PrattSent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 11:09To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [scifinoir2] RE: Scifi on TV
"Hard Time on Planet Earth". How CAN anyone forget that? What did you think about "Time Trax", if I haven't asked before? I liked "Space:1999" as well, but the budding scientist in me couldn't quite get around the idea of the Moon being blown out of Earth orbit because of excess nuclear waste (a gift of the anti-nuke lobby
RE: [scifinoir2] RE: Scifi on TV
Title: Message
I
believe it. It's a gift.
-Original Message-From:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Martin PrattSent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 11:13To:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [scifinoir2] RE: Scifi on
TV
No, but I'll start. You may find it hard to believe, but most of these
things come right off the top of my head.Keith Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You need to keep a list of cool one-liners and tag lines. That
"Pretty boys" thing is great. Be perfect in a review, or as a title for a
review. do you keep a list of neat sayings like that?
-Original Message-From:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin PrattSent: Saturday, May 14, 2005
20:52To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE:
[scifinoir2] RE: Scifi on TV
Yep, none other than Rex "You Take My Breath Away" Smith (even after
twenty-plus years, that song's worth a laugh). I won't try to defend
Viper. I just liked it. As for "Stingray", the closest to an ending I
remember was an ep in which his past came back to almost bite him on the
can. He almost had to give up his "favor-for-a-favor" gig, if not for one
of his favors being a Government big-wig who stepped in long enough to let
him slip away. Therewere two more eps before the show ended, if I
remember right. Oh, and "Riptide"! Two pretty boys who would've been LOST
without a geek. The way the world REALLY works.Keith Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Street Hawk's star was former pop idol and broadway star
("Pirates of Penzance") Rex Smith, wasn't it? I never got Viper. Seemed
kinda low-rent to me. Stingray was definitely cool. I remember one show
when the star was arrested and printed. His prints were sent off for
matching and he kept telling the arresting officer "You're wasting your
time". The officer felt he had the guy, until the results came back: a
fax showing a young Black man! Never did figure out his story, and
how did the show end?
Gotta tell you, that was another Stephen J. Cannell show, and he
had a long run of good ones, from 21 Jump Street to Riptide to Hunter to
(yes, even) A-Team.
-Original Message-From:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin PrattSent: Thursday, May 12, 2005
19:47To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE:
[scifinoir2] RE: Scifi on TV
Anything BUT. Street Hawk didn't do much for me, but Stingray was
even cooler to me than The Equalizer, which I loved. Possibly the idea
that Stingray might have some obscure government connection held some
interest for a budding conspiracy theorist. Viper, I hadevery
epon video, got rid of them only because I began to convert my
video collection to DVD and ran into a little thing called
unemployment a few weeks in.Keith Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now what do you have against the story of a man and his car?
At least they got rid of KITT's voice and the cheesy '80s music done
by anyone but the original artists (didn't they? I never watched the
Knight Rider redux series). As for men and their vehicles, did you
like Street Hawk, Stingray, or Viper?
-Original
Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin
PrattSent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 15:02To:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [scifinoir2] RE:
Scifi on TV
That it was. I came to like "Vanishing Son" more than any of
the sci-fi shows. "TekWar" had me for all of a month, and let's
not discuss "Knight Rider" in ANY incarnation. "The story of a car
and his man."Keith Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I watched Time Trax maybe twice, but never
got into it, and I think it was gone before I got around to
trying.Was it part of theso-called "Action Pack"
that came out a few years ago? Remember that? It was a
block of shows that would air together, including "Vanishing
Son" (the martial arts themed show starring Russell Wong),
"Knight Rider: 2000", "Hercules", "TekWar", "Xena&quo
RE: [scifinoir2] RE: Scifi on TV
Title: Message
"Two
pretty boys who would've been lost without a geek"? Say on, Martin!
-Original Message-From:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Martin PrattSent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 20:52To:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [scifinoir2] RE: Scifi on
TV
Yep, none other than Rex "You Take My Breath Away" Smith (even after
twenty-plus years, that song's worth a laugh). I won't try to defend Viper. I
just liked it. As for "Stingray", the closest to an ending I remember was an
ep in which his past came back to almost bite him on the can. He almost had to
give up his "favor-for-a-favor" gig, if not for one of his favors being a
Government big-wig who stepped in long enough to let him slip away.
Therewere two more eps before the show ended, if I remember right. Oh,
and "Riptide"! Two pretty boys who would've been LOST without a geek. The way
the world REALLY works.Keith Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Street Hawk's star was former pop idol and broadway star ("Pirates of
Penzance") Rex Smith, wasn't it? I never got Viper. Seemed kinda low-rent to
me. Stingray was definitely cool. I remember one show when the star was
arrested and printed. His prints were sent off for matching and he kept
telling the arresting officer "You're wasting your time". The officer felt
he had the guy, until the results came back: a fax showing a young Black
man! Never did figure out his story, and how did the show
end?
Gotta tell you, that was another Stephen J. Cannell show, and he had
a long run of good ones, from 21 Jump Street to Riptide to Hunter to (yes,
even) A-Team.
-Original Message-From:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin PrattSent: Thursday, May 12, 2005
19:47To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE:
[scifinoir2] RE: Scifi on TV
Anything BUT. Street Hawk didn't do much for me, but Stingray was
even cooler to me than The Equalizer, which I loved. Possibly the idea
that Stingray might have some obscure government connection held some
interest for a budding conspiracy theorist. Viper, I hadevery
epon video, got rid of them only because I began to convert my video
collection to DVD and ran into a little thing called unemployment a few
weeks in.Keith Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now what do you have against the story of a man and his car? At
least they got rid of KITT's voice and the cheesy '80s music done by
anyone but the original artists (didn't they? I never watched the Knight
Rider redux series). As for men and their vehicles, did you like Street
Hawk, Stingray, or Viper?
-Original Message-From:
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Martin PrattSent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005
15:02To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE:
[scifinoir2] RE: Scifi on TV
That it was. I came to like "Vanishing Son" more than any of the
sci-fi shows. "TekWar" had me for all of a month, and let's not
discuss "Knight Rider" in ANY incarnation. "The story of a car and his
man."Keith Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I watched Time Trax maybe twice, but never got into it, and I
think it was gone before I got around to trying.Was it part of
theso-called "Action Pack" that came out a few years ago?
Remember that? It was a block of shows that would air
together, including "Vanishing Son" (the martial arts themed show
starring Russell Wong), "Knight Rider: 2000", "Hercules", "TekWar",
"Xena", and maybe a few others. It was shows that I think were from
Universal. At any rate, the Action Pack music would play and they'd
show scenes from all the above shows. Usually it'd air on Saturdays
and Sundays, and there'd be 2 -3 hours of series in the group. Even
after the other shows were all cancelled, Hercules and Xena would
still often be introduced as part of the Action Pack. I
used to love that gimmick even if all the shows weren't that great.
It was just the ability to watch a block of scifi on Saturday
afternoons that I loved...
-Original
Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin
PrattSent: Sunday, May 08,
RE: [scifinoir2] RE: Scifi on TV
I just came online in time to catch you guys talking about 'the faces' and their cars...Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now what do you have against the story of a man and his car? At least they got rid of KITT's voice and the cheesy '80s music done by anyone but the original artists (didn't they? I never watched the Knight Rider redux series). As for men and their vehicles, did you like Street Hawk, Stingray, or Viper? -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin PrattSent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 15:02To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [scifinoir2] RE: Scifi on TV That it was. I came to like "Vanishing Son" more than any of the sci-fi shows. "TekWar" had me for all of a month, and let's not discuss "Knight Rider" in ANY incarnation. "The story of a car and his man."Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I watched Time Trax maybe twice, but never got into it, and I think it was gone before I got around to trying.Was it part of theso-called "Action Pack" that came out a few years ago? Remember that? It was a block of shows that would air together, including "Vanishing Son" (the martial arts themed show starring Russell Wong), "Knight Rider: 2000", "Hercules", "TekWar", "Xena", and maybe a few others. It was shows that I think were from Universal. At any rate, the Action Pack music would play and they'd show scenes from all the above shows. Usually it'd air on Saturdays and Sundays, and there'd be 2 -3 hours of series in the group. Even after the other shows were all cancelled, Hercules and Xena would still often be introduced as part of the Action Pack. I used to love that gimmick even if all the shows weren't that great. It was just the ability to watch a block of scifi on Saturday afternoons that I loved... -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin PrattSent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 11:09To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [scifinoir2] RE: Scifi on TV "Hard Time on Planet Earth". How CAN anyone forget that? What did you think about "Time Trax", if I haven't asked before? I liked "Space:1999" as well, but the budding scientist in me couldn't quite get around the idea of the Moon being blown out of Earth orbit because of excess nuclear waste (a gift of the anti-nuke lobby, I'll assume). "Wolf", I don't remember at all. Early to mid-90s, I was chin deep in work. Had a brand-new TV, and I think I turned it on four times in six years.Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You ain't said nothing but a word! Gawd, remember when all those good scifi shows were being axed? They fell one-by-one like soldiers in a battle! Man that hurt, and it's not just Fox that did it. Showtime's Friday night scifi lineup was dissolved, the Sci Fi Channel cancelled some good stuff too. Y'know, Martin, back in the days before TNG and X-Files, I'd become extremely jaded about TV scifi. I've watched probably 90% of every scifi show ever aired on TV since, oh, 1971 or so. But I remember what I call The Great Scifi Dearth of the late 70s and early 80s. That was when programs and good movies had all but disappeared from television. Remember? There were no good series, rather, crap like Buck Rogers in the 25th Century, or Hard Time on Planet Earth (betcha don't remember that one about an alien sentenced to a prison term on Terra?), or The Man From Atlantis, (which started out okay but got oldpretty soon). So many of the programs wereweak, not intelligent written, didn't deal with human issues in a mature or insightful way. And the few programs that werememorable were cancelled in short order.I don't remember many good movies or mini series during those years either. It was so bad to my mind that by the time Fox came out with its new lineup of shows-- in what I callThe Great Rebirth of Scifi--I was suspicious as hell. Sure, we had TNG, but I just knew that all these other shows were crap. I was hesitant to even give them a try. And those that I thought might be good? Well, I was so sick of good scifi being cancelled I actually stay away from those too, fearful that soon as I got hooked the idiot suits would pull the rug out from under me. Hence, i didn't watch the first season of the X-Files, missed that series "Wolf", ignored "Space: Above and Beyond", and overlooked several other shows as well. Heck, I even refused to watch Babylon 5's first season, not getting hooked into halfway through season two (and now I count it among the Holy Trinity of TV scifi that includes Trek and Farscape). The fact that I missed so many good shows, even those that got cancelled, made me resolve to go back to my old ways of watching everything that comes out. So I've made a point of catching at least the premiere of every show I can. I'v
RE: [scifinoir2] RE: Scifi on TV
That it was. I came to like "Vanishing Son" more than any of the sci-fi shows. "TekWar" had me for all of a month, and let's not discuss "Knight Rider" in ANY incarnation. "The story of a car and his man."Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I watched Time Trax maybe twice, but never got into it, and I think it was gone before I got around to trying.Was it part of theso-called "Action Pack" that came out a few years ago? Remember that? It was a block of shows that would air together, including "Vanishing Son" (the martial arts themed show starring Russell Wong), "Knight Rider: 2000", "Hercules", "TekWar", "Xena", and maybe a few others. It was shows that I think were from Universal. At any rate, the Action Pack music would play and they'd show scenes from all the above shows. Usually it'd air on Saturdays and Sundays, and there'd be 2 -3 hours of series in the group. Even after the other shows were all cancelled, Hercules and Xena would still often be introduced as part of the Action Pack. I used to love that gimmick even if all the shows weren't that great. It was just the ability to watch a block of scifi on Saturday afternoons that I loved... -Original Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin PrattSent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 11:09To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [scifinoir2] RE: Scifi on TV "Hard Time on Planet Earth". How CAN anyone forget that? What did you think about "Time Trax", if I haven't asked before? I liked "Space:1999" as well, but the budding scientist in me couldn't quite get around the idea of the Moon being blown out of Earth orbit because of excess nuclear waste (a gift of the anti-nuke lobby, I'll assume). "Wolf", I don't remember at all. Early to mid-90s, I was chin deep in work. Had a brand-new TV, and I think I turned it on four times in six years.Keith Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You ain't said nothing but a word! Gawd, remember when all those good scifi shows were being axed? They fell one-by-one like soldiers in a battle! Man that hurt, and it's not just Fox that did it. Showtime's Friday night scifi lineup was dissolved, the Sci Fi Channel cancelled some good stuff too. Y'know, Martin, back in the days before TNG and X-Files, I'd become extremely jaded about TV scifi. I've watched probably 90% of every scifi show ever aired on TV since, oh, 1971 or so. But I remember what I call The Great Scifi Dearth of the late 70s and early 80s. That was when programs and good movies had all but disappeared from television. Remember? There were no good series, rather, crap like Buck Rogers in the 25th Century, or Hard Time on Planet Earth (betcha don't remember that one about an alien sentenced to a prison term on Terra?), or The Man From Atlantis, (which started out okay but got oldpretty soon). So many of the programs wereweak, not intelligent written, didn't deal with human issues in a mature or insightful way. And the few programs that werememorable were cancelled in short order.I don't remember many good movies or mini series during those years either. It was so bad to my mind that by the time Fox came out with its new lineup of shows-- in what I callThe Great Rebirth of Scifi--I was suspicious as hell. Sure, we had TNG, but I just knew that all these other shows were crap. I was hesitant to even give them a try. And those that I thought might be good? Well, I was so sick of good scifi being cancelled I actually stay away from those too, fearful that soon as I got hooked the idiot suits would pull the rug out from under me. Hence, i didn't watch the first season of the X-Files, missed that series "Wolf", ignored "Space: Above and Beyond", and overlooked several other shows as well. Heck, I even refused to watch Babylon 5's first season, not getting hooked into halfway through season two (and now I count it among the Holy Trinity of TV scifi that includes Trek and Farscape). The fact that I missed so many good shows, even those that got cancelled, made me resolve to go back to my old ways of watching everything that comes out. So I've made a point of catching at least the premiere of every show I can. I've been there for Odyssey Five, Jeremiah, John Doe, Strange Luck, Wonderfalls, Tru Calling, Firefly, Total Recall 2070, Carnivale and countless others. And just like back during the Dearth, the idiots in control have adopted this policy of axing good shows and trying to foist cheap crap on us (remember Point Pleasant, anyone?) Tru Calling gets canned but The O.C. rolls on. John Doe is dismissed with nothing approaching a resolution, but Sci Fi gives us Ghost Hunters and Scare Tactics. Showtime's all but abandoned the genre. It's almost been enough to bring back my old cynicism but I'm not gonna let it get to me. Fortunately there are enough tidbi
