Re: [scifinoir2] SF Movies coming Up in 2008 - Vin Diesel

2007-12-30 Thread KeithBJohnson
I think Diesel is trying to establish himself, and as you said, maybe some ego 
got in the way. Yet, he did that family-friendly flick where he was agent 
having to babysit a family, so surely that was just to please the crowd and 
make some dough (a la Eddie Murphy).  A Man Apart was pretty good, but not 
spectacular. I sometimes think Diesel is from the Kevin Costner/Wesley Snipes 
school: they aim high, trying to make big, epic, soaring pictures (Waterworld, 
The Postman), or high-octane action flicks (Murder at 1600, others) that don't 
always do as well as hoped. So people then see the movies and the actors as 
just average. While the actors are aiming high and big, the audience seems them 
as just average. Some actors seem to have built in likability/visability/studio 
support, and get attention that frankly may be out of proportion to their 
abilities (Schwarzenegger, Will Smith) but they make it work. Arnold had his 
weightlifting background, and the good sense to team up with Camero
n (Terminator) and DeLaurentis (Conan) to help get him going. Smith had the 
Fresh Prince background, and a couple of crowd-pleasing hits (Bad Boys, Men in 
Black) to get his visibility.

Is it that Diesel and Snipes aren't as good/likeable as Arnold and Smith, did 
they make worse choices, rush their careers too fast, or haven't been as lucky?

One thing I will say about Diesel: The Chronicles of Riddick is one of the 
closest disappointments i've seen in recent years. That trailers promised a 
soaring epic, a scifi film to stand on the same level as LOTR and in the scifi 
world, we haven't had that in ages. And will i love The Chronicles of Riddick, 
everytime I see it I realize it falls short of the glory Diesel intended. So 
many great moments, such great background and setup, but spoiled by a beginning 
and middle that's too much cliched scifi. By the time they really try to bring 
in the mythos and otherworldliness of the Necromongers, it's too late.  I think 
that's the film that could have put him on the road to Arnold territory, but it 
just missed the mark. Too bad, 'cause I really wanted to see a third film too, 
the second was so damn good in spots...

-- Original message -- 
From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
I liked both Pitch black and the sequel. After Pitch Black and Boiler 
Room, I thought he was really going places. I guess his career sorta fizzled

Mike Street wrote:
 yeah Vin is doing an animated Hannibal for BET and looks like he might
 be in another Fast and Furious flick. But i think that franchise is
 pretty much dead. So looks like he is trying to rebuild his career
 with Hannibal as an epic movie. But I think he was at his best in
 Boiler Room. That was the only movie I ever really liked him in.


 On Dec 29, 2007 12:03 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L.
 Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 




 Regarding Vin. I think there was room for both. i think him, his ego
 and his decisions about watch movies to do killed it.



 Mike Street wrote:
  I feel sorry for Vin Diesel cause he was gonna be the next big action
  star. Then The Rock came along and pretty much killed his career.
 
  There are some good movies on this list. Lots of stuff I wanna see and
  a lot of stuff I will never watch. Narina is gonna do big number and
  I'm glad they are doing the books justice. I watched the British
  version and I think they are doing an excellent job. I just wanna know
  what will happen after the 3rd book. Cause the kids can't come back to
  Narina after the Silver Chair.
 
  On Dec 29, 2007 8:44 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
  One Missed Call- sums it up perfectly.
 
  In The Name of the King- it'll probably flop, but I'll pay to see
 Statham
  go medieval on someone's a$$. (pun fully intended)
 
  Cloverfield- the young'uns will make it happen.
 
  Teeth- doubt it'll have any bite.
 
  Untraaceable- I think it's got a great chance, in the Internet-voyeur
  era.
 
  Jumper- another one for the kids. If it's done right, it might pick up
  some of the adults who read the book.
 
  The Spiderwick Chronicles- my niece and her friends have been talking
  this one up since it was announced last year. Based on that, I'll say
 yes.
 
  The Signal- One Missed Call again. Cancellation effect.
 
  Babylon A.D- no. Not even with the Big Diesel in front.
 
  The Water Horse- I've heard that this one's not really even for kids,
  that it as a few bits that might spook the younger kids. If my
 scuttlebutt
  is right, then I think it'll draw the first weekend, then tail off as
 word
  of mouth gets out.
 
  10,000 B.C.- only if Raquel does a cameo.
 
  The Forbidden Kingdom- it might recover its money, but I don't see it
  going big big big.
 
  Iron Man- if it doesn't do well, it'll be because they refused to let
 the
  Technonerdati in the door.
 
  Prince Caspian- ditto. I wasn't expecting much out of the first Narnia
  movie, and 

Re: [scifinoir2] SF Movies coming Up in 2008

2007-12-30 Thread KeithBJohnson

you think Dwayne Johnson--isn't that his given name? I hear he no longer wants 
to go by The Rock--killed Diesel's career? I didn't think so. Johnson has 
done well, but not gangbusters by any means. The Rundown was a good movie 
that established he has screen presence. I enjoyed it, but it didn't do major 
bucks. Walking Tall remake was panned by critics and didn't do all that well. 
His most recent movies where he was working with troubled youth as a football 
coach and the other one with little kids, did well, but again, not on the level 
of Will Smith or something. I don't know many people who flock to the theatre 
just because Johnson's the lead.
I tend to think it's not that another bi-racial action star came out that hurt 
Diesel, I think it's just been his choice of films. He did a couple of films 
that weren't meant for big box office (one where he played a real life mob guy 
testifying against his cohorts was well reviewed, but little seen), and he 
hasn't been churning them out with great frequency.
-- Original message -- 
From: Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 I feel sorry for Vin Diesel cause he was gonna be the next big action 
 star. Then The Rock came along and pretty much killed his career. 
 
 There are some good movies on this list. Lots of stuff I wanna see and 
 a lot of stuff I will never watch. Narina is gonna do big number and 
 I'm glad they are doing the books justice. I watched the British 
 version and I think they are doing an excellent job. I just wanna know 
 what will happen after the 3rd book. Cause the kids can't come back to 
 Narina after the Silver Chair. 
 
 On Dec 29, 2007 8:44 AM, Martin wrote: 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  One Missed Call- sums it up perfectly. 
  
  In The Name of the King- it'll probably flop, but I'll pay to see Statham 
  go medieval on someone's a$$. (pun fully intended) 
  
  Cloverfield- the young'uns will make it happen. 
  
  Teeth- doubt it'll have any bite. 
  
  Untraaceable- I think it's got a great chance, in the Internet-voyeur 
  era. 
  
  Jumper- another one for the kids. If it's done right, it might pick up 
  some of the adults who read the book. 
  
  The Spiderwick Chronicles- my niece and her friends have been talking 
  this one up since it was announced last year. Based on that, I'll say yes. 
  
  The Signal- One Missed Call again. Cancellation effect. 
  
  Babylon A.D- no. Not even with the Big Diesel in front. 
  
  The Water Horse- I've heard that this one's not really even for kids, 
  that it as a few bits that might spook the younger kids. If my scuttlebutt 
  is right, then I think it'll draw the first weekend, then tail off as word 
  of mouth gets out. 
  
  10,000 B.C.- only if Raquel does a cameo. 
  
  The Forbidden Kingdom- it might recover its money, but I don't see it 
  going big big big. 
  
  Iron Man- if it doesn't do well, it'll be because they refused to let the 
  Technonerdati in the door. 
  
  Prince Caspian- ditto. I wasn't expecting much out of the first Narnia 
  movie, and was pleasantly surprised. 
  
  Indiana Jones IV- if they offer Geritol at the door, they might recoup. 
  Not even *I'm* game for this. And I *hate* Nazis... 
  
  Starship Dave- no. Just no. No, I take that back. It'll probably do well, 
  but I won't be there. 
  
  Speed Racer- yes. Kids like retro. Adults like retro, too. 
  
  The Incredible Hulk- doubt t. People's memories are short, but their 
  senses of smell are long, and The Hulk stunk the joint up but good. 
  
  The Dark Knight- try to keep 'em out of the theaters. I dare you. 
  
  Wallace to quote the eminent scientist Hubert Farnsworth, Hu-WHA? 
  
  Hancock- probably. But I'm not sold on it, especially after seeing the 
  trailer. Just me and my weirdness. 
  
  Hellboy 2- yes. Yes.YES. 
  
  The Mummy 3- no. No. NO. To paraphrase, once was enough. 
  
  Jurassic Park IV- see above. 
  
  The Day The Earth Stood Still'- Klaatu. Barada. NiktNO... 
  
  Star Trek XI'- Probably will do well. My only question- WHY? 
  
  The Mutant Chronicles- X-fans will go to see it, be p*ssed off because 
  there are no X-Men in it. Word gets out, and it's on DVD the following 
  month. 
  
  Deathrace 3000 Zelazny will rise from his grave just long enough to beg 
  the masses *not* to see this. He won't have to be out for long. 
  
  They Came From Upstairs- probably won't do well at the box office. Based 
  on this blurb, I'll go to see it. 
  
  Watchmen- if it doesn't, I'll be surprised. 
  
  The Lovely Bones- Peter Jackson. Need I say more? 
  
  Wolverine- uh, this is a trick question, right? 
  
  Monsters vs. Aliens- it'll do even better if the Aliens in it aren't the 
  Aliens from Aliens vs Predator. 
  
  Terminator 4- I don't think it will fly. I think that all but the 
  hardcore fans are sick of the franchise. 
  
  Sin City 2- The Yellow B*stard will be swimming in green. 
  
  Logan's Run- it might do well, appealing to the young'uns who are 

Re: [scifinoir2] SF Movies coming Up in 2008

2007-12-29 Thread Martin
One Missed Call- sums it up perfectly.

In The Name of the King- it'll probably flop, but I'll pay to see Statham go 
medieval on someone's a$$. (pun fully intended)

Cloverfield- the young'uns will make it happen.

Teeth- doubt it'll have any bite.

Untraaceable- I think it's got a great chance, in the Internet-voyeur era.

Jumper- another one for the kids. If it's done right, it might pick up some 
of the adults who read the book.

The Spiderwick Chronicles- my niece and her friends have been talking this 
one up since it was announced last year. Based on that, I'll say yes.

The Signal- One Missed Call again. Cancellation effect.

Babylon A.D- no. Not even with the Big Diesel in front.

The Water Horse- I've heard that this one's not really even for kids, that it 
as a few bits that might spook the younger kids. If my scuttlebutt is right, 
then I think it'll draw the first weekend, then tail off as word of mouth gets 
out.

10,000 B.C.- only if Raquel does a cameo.

The Forbidden Kingdom- it might recover its money, but I don't see it going 
big big big.

Iron Man- if it doesn't do well, it'll be because they refused to let the 
Technonerdati in the door.

Prince Caspian- ditto. I wasn't expecting much out of the first Narnia movie, 
and was pleasantly surprised.

Indiana Jones IV- if they offer Geritol at the door, they might recoup. Not 
even *I'm* game for this. And I *hate* Nazis...

Starship Dave- no. Just no. No, I take that back. It'll probably do well, but 
I won't be there.

Speed Racer- yes. Kids like retro. Adults like retro, too.

The Incredible Hulk- doubt t. People's memories are short, but their senses 
of smell are long, and The Hulk stunk the joint up but good.

The Dark Knight- try to keep 'em out of the theaters. I dare you.

Wallace to quote the eminent scientist Hubert Farnsworth, Hu-WHA?

Hancock- probably. But I'm not sold on it, especially after seeing the 
trailer. Just me and my weirdness.

Hellboy 2- yes. Yes.YES.

The Mummy 3- no. No. NO. To paraphrase, once was enough.

Jurassic Park IV- see above.

The Day The Earth Stood Still'- Klaatu. Barada. NiktNO...

Star Trek XI'- Probably will do well. My only question- WHY?

The Mutant Chronicles- X-fans will go to see it, be p*ssed off because there 
are no X-Men in it. Word gets out, and it's on DVD the following month.

Deathrace 3000 Zelazny will rise from his grave just long enough to beg the 
masses *not* to see this. He won't have to be out for long.

They Came From Upstairs- probably won't do well at the box office. Based on 
this blurb, I'll go to see it.

Watchmen- if it doesn't, I'll be surprised.

The Lovely Bones- Peter Jackson. Need I say more?

Wolverine- uh, this is a trick question, right?

Monsters vs. Aliens- it'll do even better if the Aliens in it aren't the 
Aliens from Aliens vs Predator.

Terminator 4- I don't think it will fly. I think that all but the hardcore 
fans are sick of the franchise.

Sin City 2- The Yellow B*stard will be swimming in green.

Logan's Run- it might do well, appealing to the young'uns who are afraid to 
grow old.

The Hobbit- another trick question, right?

Deathlok- not enough people know who he is to make it work. Unless Marvel 
brings him back again (I think he was in a major book earlier this year), not 
much of a chance.

I now leave you to wonder why anyone with common sense would sell me a wireless 
PC card...

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
 The following is a list of Speculative Fiction Movies 
Coming Out on 
 2008.  Which ones are you looking forward to?  Which ones do you think 
 will hit and which ones do you think will flop?
 
 One Missed Call
 U.S. Opening Date:January 4.
 A chain of people receive terrifying cell phone messages--actual 
 recordings of their own horrifying last moments before dying.
 
 In The Name Of The King: A Dungeon Siege Tale
 U.S. Opening Date: 11 January 2008
 Jason Statham must find his kidnapped wife and avenge the death of his 
 son, amidst the backdrop of war in the Kingdom of Ehb.
 
 Cloverfield
 U.S. Opening Date:January 18
 A group of friends document their attempt to survive when a monster the 
 size of a skyscraper descends upon New York City.
 
 Teeth
 U.S. Opening Date:January 18
 A high school student discovers she has a bizarre physical advantage 
 when she becomes the object of male violence.
 
 Untraceable
 Opening January 25, 2008
 Within the FBI, there exists a division dedicated to investigating and 
 prosecuting criminals on the internet.  A tech-savvy internet predator 
 is displaying his graphic murders on his own website--and the fate of 
 each of his tormented captives is left in the hands on the public:
 
 Jumper
 U.S. Opening date: 15 February 2008
 A teenager (Hayden Christensen, Young Darth Vader) discovers he can 
 teleport from one place to another and uses this ability to search for 
 the man he believes killed his mother .
 
 The Spiderwick 

Re: [scifinoir2] SF Movies coming Up in 2008

2007-12-29 Thread Mike Street
I feel sorry for Vin Diesel cause he was gonna be the next big action
star. Then The Rock came along and pretty much killed his career.

There are some good movies on this list. Lots of stuff I wanna see and
a lot of stuff I will never watch. Narina is gonna do big number and
I'm glad they are doing the books justice. I watched the British
version and I think they are doing an excellent job. I just wanna know
what will happen after the 3rd book. Cause the kids can't come back to
Narina after the Silver Chair.

On Dec 29, 2007 8:44 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






 One Missed Call- sums it up perfectly.

  In The Name of the King- it'll probably flop, but I'll pay to see Statham
 go medieval on someone's a$$. (pun fully intended)

  Cloverfield- the young'uns will make it happen.

  Teeth- doubt it'll have any bite.

  Untraaceable- I think it's got a great chance, in the Internet-voyeur
 era.

  Jumper- another one for the kids. If it's done right, it might pick up
 some of the adults who read the book.

  The Spiderwick Chronicles- my niece and her friends have been talking
 this one up since it was announced last year. Based on that, I'll say yes.

  The Signal- One Missed Call again. Cancellation effect.

  Babylon A.D- no. Not even with the Big Diesel in front.

  The Water Horse- I've heard that this one's not really even for kids,
 that it as a few bits that might spook the younger kids. If my scuttlebutt
 is right, then I think it'll draw the first weekend, then tail off as word
 of mouth gets out.

  10,000 B.C.- only if Raquel does a cameo.

  The Forbidden Kingdom- it might recover its money, but I don't see it
 going big big big.

  Iron Man- if it doesn't do well, it'll be because they refused to let the
 Technonerdati in the door.

  Prince Caspian- ditto. I wasn't expecting much out of the first Narnia
 movie, and was pleasantly surprised.

  Indiana Jones IV- if they offer Geritol at the door, they might recoup.
 Not even *I'm* game for this. And I *hate* Nazis...

  Starship Dave- no. Just no. No, I take that back. It'll probably do well,
 but I won't be there.

  Speed Racer- yes. Kids like retro. Adults like retro, too.

  The Incredible Hulk- doubt t. People's memories are short, but their
 senses of smell are long, and The Hulk stunk the joint up but good.

  The Dark Knight- try to keep 'em out of the theaters. I dare you.

  Wallace to quote the eminent scientist Hubert Farnsworth, Hu-WHA?

  Hancock- probably. But I'm not sold on it, especially after seeing the
 trailer. Just me and my weirdness.

  Hellboy 2- yes. Yes.YES.

  The Mummy 3- no. No. NO. To paraphrase, once was enough.

  Jurassic Park IV- see above.

  The Day The Earth Stood Still'- Klaatu. Barada. NiktNO...

  Star Trek XI'- Probably will do well. My only question- WHY?

  The Mutant Chronicles- X-fans will go to see it, be p*ssed off because
 there are no X-Men in it. Word gets out, and it's on DVD the following
 month.

  Deathrace 3000 Zelazny will rise from his grave just long enough to beg
 the masses *not* to see this. He won't have to be out for long.

  They Came From Upstairs- probably won't do well at the box office. Based
 on this blurb, I'll go to see it.

  Watchmen- if it doesn't, I'll be surprised.

  The Lovely Bones- Peter Jackson. Need I say more?

  Wolverine- uh, this is a trick question, right?

  Monsters vs. Aliens- it'll do even better if the Aliens in it aren't the
 Aliens from Aliens vs Predator.

  Terminator 4- I don't think it will fly. I think that all but the
 hardcore fans are sick of the franchise.

  Sin City 2- The Yellow B*stard will be swimming in green.

  Logan's Run- it might do well, appealing to the young'uns who are afraid
 to grow old.

  The Hobbit- another trick question, right?

  Deathlok- not enough people know who he is to make it work. Unless Marvel
 brings him back again (I think he was in a major book earlier this year),
 not much of a chance.

  I now leave you to wonder why anyone with common sense would sell me a
 wireless PC card...

  Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following is a list of
 Speculative Fiction Movies Coming Out on


  2008. Which ones are you looking forward to? Which ones do you think
  will hit and which ones do you think will flop?

  One Missed Call
  U.S. Opening Date:January 4.
  A chain of people receive terrifying cell phone messages--actual
  recordings of their own horrifying last moments before dying.

  In The Name Of The King: A Dungeon Siege Tale
  U.S. Opening Date: 11 January 2008
  Jason Statham must find his kidnapped wife and avenge the death of his
  son, amidst the backdrop of war in the Kingdom of Ehb.

  Cloverfield
  U.S. Opening Date:January 18
  A group of friends document their attempt to survive when a monster the
  size of a skyscraper descends upon New York City.

  Teeth
  U.S. Opening Date:January 18
  A high school student discovers she has a bizarre physical 

Re: [scifinoir2] SF Movies coming Up in 2008

2007-12-29 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Regarding Vin.  I think there was room for both.  i think him, his ego 
and his decisions about watch movies to do killed it. 

Mike Street wrote:
 I feel sorry for Vin Diesel cause he was gonna be the next big action
 star. Then The Rock came along and pretty much killed his career.

 There are some good movies on this list. Lots of stuff I wanna see and
 a lot of stuff I will never watch. Narina is gonna do big number and
 I'm glad they are doing the books justice. I watched the British
 version and I think they are doing an excellent job. I just wanna know
 what will happen after the 3rd book. Cause the kids can't come back to
 Narina after the Silver Chair.

 On Dec 29, 2007 8:44 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   




 One Missed Call- sums it up perfectly.

  In The Name of the King- it'll probably flop, but I'll pay to see Statham
 go medieval on someone's a$$. (pun fully intended)

  Cloverfield- the young'uns will make it happen.

  Teeth- doubt it'll have any bite.

  Untraaceable- I think it's got a great chance, in the Internet-voyeur
 era.

  Jumper- another one for the kids. If it's done right, it might pick up
 some of the adults who read the book.

  The Spiderwick Chronicles- my niece and her friends have been talking
 this one up since it was announced last year. Based on that, I'll say yes.

  The Signal- One Missed Call again. Cancellation effect.

  Babylon A.D- no. Not even with the Big Diesel in front.

  The Water Horse- I've heard that this one's not really even for kids,
 that it as a few bits that might spook the younger kids. If my scuttlebutt
 is right, then I think it'll draw the first weekend, then tail off as word
 of mouth gets out.

  10,000 B.C.- only if Raquel does a cameo.

  The Forbidden Kingdom- it might recover its money, but I don't see it
 going big big big.

  Iron Man- if it doesn't do well, it'll be because they refused to let the
 Technonerdati in the door.

  Prince Caspian- ditto. I wasn't expecting much out of the first Narnia
 movie, and was pleasantly surprised.

  Indiana Jones IV- if they offer Geritol at the door, they might recoup.
 Not even *I'm* game for this. And I *hate* Nazis...

  Starship Dave- no. Just no. No, I take that back. It'll probably do well,
 but I won't be there.

  Speed Racer- yes. Kids like retro. Adults like retro, too.

  The Incredible Hulk- doubt t. People's memories are short, but their
 senses of smell are long, and The Hulk stunk the joint up but good.

  The Dark Knight- try to keep 'em out of the theaters. I dare you.

  Wallace to quote the eminent scientist Hubert Farnsworth, Hu-WHA?

  Hancock- probably. But I'm not sold on it, especially after seeing the
 trailer. Just me and my weirdness.

  Hellboy 2- yes. Yes.YES.

  The Mummy 3- no. No. NO. To paraphrase, once was enough.

  Jurassic Park IV- see above.

  The Day The Earth Stood Still'- Klaatu. Barada. NiktNO...

  Star Trek XI'- Probably will do well. My only question- WHY?

  The Mutant Chronicles- X-fans will go to see it, be p*ssed off because
 there are no X-Men in it. Word gets out, and it's on DVD the following
 month.

  Deathrace 3000 Zelazny will rise from his grave just long enough to beg
 the masses *not* to see this. He won't have to be out for long.

  They Came From Upstairs- probably won't do well at the box office. Based
 on this blurb, I'll go to see it.

  Watchmen- if it doesn't, I'll be surprised.

  The Lovely Bones- Peter Jackson. Need I say more?

  Wolverine- uh, this is a trick question, right?

  Monsters vs. Aliens- it'll do even better if the Aliens in it aren't the
 Aliens from Aliens vs Predator.

  Terminator 4- I don't think it will fly. I think that all but the
 hardcore fans are sick of the franchise.

  Sin City 2- The Yellow B*stard will be swimming in green.

  Logan's Run- it might do well, appealing to the young'uns who are afraid
 to grow old.

  The Hobbit- another trick question, right?

  Deathlok- not enough people know who he is to make it work. Unless Marvel
 brings him back again (I think he was in a major book earlier this year),
 not much of a chance.

  I now leave you to wonder why anyone with common sense would sell me a
 wireless PC card...

  Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following is a list of
 Speculative Fiction Movies Coming Out on


  2008. Which ones are you looking forward to? Which ones do you think
  will hit and which ones do you think will flop?

  One Missed Call
  U.S. Opening Date:January 4.
  A chain of people receive terrifying cell phone messages--actual
  recordings of their own horrifying last moments before dying.

  In The Name Of The King: A Dungeon Siege Tale
  U.S. Opening Date: 11 January 2008
  Jason Statham must find his kidnapped wife and avenge the death of his
  son, amidst the backdrop of war in the Kingdom of Ehb.

  Cloverfield
  U.S. Opening Date:January 18
  A group of friends document their attempt to survive when a 

Re: [scifinoir2] SF Movies coming Up in 2008

2007-12-29 Thread Mike Street
yeah Vin is doing an animated Hannibal for BET and looks like he might
be in another Fast and Furious flick. But i think that franchise is
pretty much dead. So looks like he is trying to rebuild his career
with Hannibal as an epic movie. But I think he was at his best in
Boiler Room. That was the only movie I ever really liked him in.


On Dec 29, 2007 12:03 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L.
Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






 Regarding Vin. I think there was room for both. i think him, his ego
  and his decisions about watch movies to do killed it.



  Mike Street wrote:
   I feel sorry for Vin Diesel cause he was gonna be the next big action
   star. Then The Rock came along and pretty much killed his career.
  
   There are some good movies on this list. Lots of stuff I wanna see and
   a lot of stuff I will never watch. Narina is gonna do big number and
   I'm glad they are doing the books justice. I watched the British
   version and I think they are doing an excellent job. I just wanna know
   what will happen after the 3rd book. Cause the kids can't come back to
   Narina after the Silver Chair.
  
   On Dec 29, 2007 8:44 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  
  
  
   One Missed Call- sums it up perfectly.
  
   In The Name of the King- it'll probably flop, but I'll pay to see
 Statham
   go medieval on someone's a$$. (pun fully intended)
  
   Cloverfield- the young'uns will make it happen.
  
   Teeth- doubt it'll have any bite.
  
   Untraaceable- I think it's got a great chance, in the Internet-voyeur
   era.
  
   Jumper- another one for the kids. If it's done right, it might pick up
   some of the adults who read the book.
  
   The Spiderwick Chronicles- my niece and her friends have been talking
   this one up since it was announced last year. Based on that, I'll say
 yes.
  
   The Signal- One Missed Call again. Cancellation effect.
  
   Babylon A.D- no. Not even with the Big Diesel in front.
  
   The Water Horse- I've heard that this one's not really even for kids,
   that it as a few bits that might spook the younger kids. If my
 scuttlebutt
   is right, then I think it'll draw the first weekend, then tail off as
 word
   of mouth gets out.
  
   10,000 B.C.- only if Raquel does a cameo.
  
   The Forbidden Kingdom- it might recover its money, but I don't see it
   going big big big.
  
   Iron Man- if it doesn't do well, it'll be because they refused to let
 the
   Technonerdati in the door.
  
   Prince Caspian- ditto. I wasn't expecting much out of the first Narnia
   movie, and was pleasantly surprised.
  
   Indiana Jones IV- if they offer Geritol at the door, they might
 recoup.
   Not even *I'm* game for this. And I *hate* Nazis...
  
   Starship Dave- no. Just no. No, I take that back. It'll probably do
 well,
   but I won't be there.
  
   Speed Racer- yes. Kids like retro. Adults like retro, too.
  
   The Incredible Hulk- doubt t. People's memories are short, but their
   senses of smell are long, and The Hulk stunk the joint up but good.
  
   The Dark Knight- try to keep 'em out of the theaters. I dare you.
  
   Wallace to quote the eminent scientist Hubert Farnsworth, Hu-WHA?
  
   Hancock- probably. But I'm not sold on it, especially after seeing the
   trailer. Just me and my weirdness.
  
   Hellboy 2- yes. Yes.YES.
  
   The Mummy 3- no. No. NO. To paraphrase, once was enough.
  
   Jurassic Park IV- see above.
  
   The Day The Earth Stood Still'- Klaatu. Barada. NiktNO...
  
   Star Trek XI'- Probably will do well. My only question- WHY?
  
   The Mutant Chronicles- X-fans will go to see it, be p*ssed off because
   there are no X-Men in it. Word gets out, and it's on DVD the following
   month.
  
   Deathrace 3000 Zelazny will rise from his grave just long enough to
 beg
   the masses *not* to see this. He won't have to be out for long.
  
   They Came From Upstairs- probably won't do well at the box office.
 Based
   on this blurb, I'll go to see it.
  
   Watchmen- if it doesn't, I'll be surprised.
  
   The Lovely Bones- Peter Jackson. Need I say more?
  
   Wolverine- uh, this is a trick question, right?
  
   Monsters vs. Aliens- it'll do even better if the Aliens in it aren't
 the
   Aliens from Aliens vs Predator.
  
   Terminator 4- I don't think it will fly. I think that all but the
   hardcore fans are sick of the franchise.
  
   Sin City 2- The Yellow B*stard will be swimming in green.
  
   Logan's Run- it might do well, appealing to the young'uns who are
 afraid
   to grow old.
  
   The Hobbit- another trick question, right?
  
   Deathlok- not enough people know who he is to make it work. Unless
 Marvel
   brings him back again (I think he was in a major book earlier this
 year),
   not much of a chance.
  
   I now leave you to wonder why anyone with common sense would sell me a
   wireless PC card...
  
   Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following is a list of
   Speculative 

Re: [scifinoir2] SF Movies coming Up in 2008

2007-12-29 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
I liked both Pitch black and the sequel. After Pitch Black and Boiler 
Room, I thought he was really going places. I guess his career sorta fizzled

Mike Street wrote:
 yeah Vin is doing an animated Hannibal for BET and looks like he might
 be in another Fast and Furious flick. But i think that franchise is
 pretty much dead. So looks like he is trying to rebuild his career
 with Hannibal as an epic movie. But I think he was at his best in
 Boiler Room. That was the only movie I ever really liked him in.


 On Dec 29, 2007 12:03 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L.
 Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   




 Regarding Vin. I think there was room for both. i think him, his ego
  and his decisions about watch movies to do killed it.



  Mike Street wrote:
   I feel sorry for Vin Diesel cause he was gonna be the next big action
   star. Then The Rock came along and pretty much killed his career.
  
   There are some good movies on this list. Lots of stuff I wanna see and
   a lot of stuff I will never watch. Narina is gonna do big number and
   I'm glad they are doing the books justice. I watched the British
   version and I think they are doing an excellent job. I just wanna know
   what will happen after the 3rd book. Cause the kids can't come back to
   Narina after the Silver Chair.
  
   On Dec 29, 2007 8:44 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  
  
  
   One Missed Call- sums it up perfectly.
  
   In The Name of the King- it'll probably flop, but I'll pay to see
 Statham
   go medieval on someone's a$$. (pun fully intended)
  
   Cloverfield- the young'uns will make it happen.
  
   Teeth- doubt it'll have any bite.
  
   Untraaceable- I think it's got a great chance, in the Internet-voyeur
   era.
  
   Jumper- another one for the kids. If it's done right, it might pick up
   some of the adults who read the book.
  
   The Spiderwick Chronicles- my niece and her friends have been talking
   this one up since it was announced last year. Based on that, I'll say
 yes.
  
   The Signal- One Missed Call again. Cancellation effect.
  
   Babylon A.D- no. Not even with the Big Diesel in front.
  
   The Water Horse- I've heard that this one's not really even for kids,
   that it as a few bits that might spook the younger kids. If my
 scuttlebutt
   is right, then I think it'll draw the first weekend, then tail off as
 word
   of mouth gets out.
  
   10,000 B.C.- only if Raquel does a cameo.
  
   The Forbidden Kingdom- it might recover its money, but I don't see it
   going big big big.
  
   Iron Man- if it doesn't do well, it'll be because they refused to let
 the
   Technonerdati in the door.
  
   Prince Caspian- ditto. I wasn't expecting much out of the first Narnia
   movie, and was pleasantly surprised.
  
   Indiana Jones IV- if they offer Geritol at the door, they might
 recoup.
   Not even *I'm* game for this. And I *hate* Nazis...
  
   Starship Dave- no. Just no. No, I take that back. It'll probably do
 well,
   but I won't be there.
  
   Speed Racer- yes. Kids like retro. Adults like retro, too.
  
   The Incredible Hulk- doubt t. People's memories are short, but their
   senses of smell are long, and The Hulk stunk the joint up but good.
  
   The Dark Knight- try to keep 'em out of the theaters. I dare you.
  
   Wallace to quote the eminent scientist Hubert Farnsworth, Hu-WHA?
  
   Hancock- probably. But I'm not sold on it, especially after seeing the
   trailer. Just me and my weirdness.
  
   Hellboy 2- yes. Yes.YES.
  
   The Mummy 3- no. No. NO. To paraphrase, once was enough.
  
   Jurassic Park IV- see above.
  
   The Day The Earth Stood Still'- Klaatu. Barada. NiktNO...
  
   Star Trek XI'- Probably will do well. My only question- WHY?
  
   The Mutant Chronicles- X-fans will go to see it, be p*ssed off because
   there are no X-Men in it. Word gets out, and it's on DVD the following
   month.
  
   Deathrace 3000 Zelazny will rise from his grave just long enough to
 beg
   the masses *not* to see this. He won't have to be out for long.
  
   They Came From Upstairs- probably won't do well at the box office.
 Based
   on this blurb, I'll go to see it.
  
   Watchmen- if it doesn't, I'll be surprised.
  
   The Lovely Bones- Peter Jackson. Need I say more?
  
   Wolverine- uh, this is a trick question, right?
  
   Monsters vs. Aliens- it'll do even better if the Aliens in it aren't
 the
   Aliens from Aliens vs Predator.
  
   Terminator 4- I don't think it will fly. I think that all but the
   hardcore fans are sick of the franchise.
  
   Sin City 2- The Yellow B*stard will be swimming in green.
  
   Logan's Run- it might do well, appealing to the young'uns who are
 afraid
   to grow old.
  
   The Hobbit- another trick question, right?
  
   Deathlok- not enough people know who he is to make it work. Unless
 Marvel
   brings him back again (I think he was in a major book earlier this
 year),
   not much of a chance.
  
   I now leave you to wonder why anyone with