Re: [scots-l] old books (was ABCs)

2001-07-13 Thread Jack Campin

 Speaking of old books, I found one in my mother's house. [...] It is
 not dated. Called Scotland Calling in 50 Scottish Songs, it has both
 staff notation and sol-fa. For someone who has only a vague knowledge
 of sol-fa, this is rather like finding the rosetta stone.
 The book was published by Mozart Allen, 84 Carlton Place in Glasgow.
 Lots of standard stuff, like Scots Wha Hae and Auld Lang Syne, but a
 couple of tunes I don't already know (which you all probably know like
 the back of your fiddle, so I won't embarass myself by listing the ToC). 
 I *shall* embarass myself by admitting I don't know the arranger, who
 is Mr. C. MacKay Collier. Does this clue help date it?

I looked this up in the National Library of Scotland.  Haven't seen the
actual books (if they're undated that won't help much), only the catalogue
entries.  They have two copies; one from Murdoch Henderson's collection,
dated 1964, and another helpfully dated 1900-1995 with a 1996 accession
code - I presume that means Mozart Allan caught up on a century's backlog
of legal deposits in one hit.

The cover design, as I remember it, certainly looks older than 1964, but
music publishers are conservative about such things - the style could
predate WW1.  I haven't heard of Collier either.

As Mozart Allan were/are based in Glasgow, perhaps the Mitchell Library
has more copies that might pin this down better.  Maybe some Glaswegian
list member could look?

The NLS has two other items titled Scotland Calling.  One is a BBC
forthcoming-programmes list from 1932, exactly the period David Kilpatrick
was suggesting.  The other is about the Empire Exhibition held in Glasgow
in 1938.

The address is another clue, as a last resort; Glasgow directories will
say when they moved.  The earliest address I have for them (on the two
sets of 110 Scottish Songs, published in the 19th century) is 60 South
Portland Street; the 1996 one was 65 Berkeley Street, a few doors from
where James S Kerr used to be.  They have also changed their spelling at
some point; they were Allan on all the book covers I've got, Allen
in the 1996 Royal Mail postal address book I'm using.

Are there any other items advertised in this book?  That might help date
it.

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[scots-l] Silvery Voe

2001-07-13 Thread Philip Whittaker

  From: Keith W Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [scots-l] The Silvery Voe

 I've searched the web over and can't find the abc's or a gif or jpg of
 this tune, The Silvery Voe.  It's a Shetland tune on Tom Andersons/Aly
 Bain's CD The Sliver Bow. Does anyone have this in one of these
 formats?  Orcould you point me in the right direction?  AND
 What's a Voe?  or even a Silvery  Voe

Voe is verry common word on the maps of Shetland. See Sullom Voe, the
location of the large Oil Terminal, which is perhaps the most famous. From
the map a voe seems to be a body of water such as an inlet or sea-loch -
similar to fjord perhaps?

Hence the Silvery Voe. I think this is a Tom Anderson Tune and it might be
in Ringing Strings or one of the other collections in the same series. 


Philip W

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Re: [scots-l] Silvery Voe

2001-07-13 Thread John Chambers

Philip W writes:
|  From: Keith W Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  Subject: [scots-l] The Silvery Voe
|  I've searched the web over and can't find the abc's or a gif or jpg of
|  this tune, The Silvery Voe.  It's a Shetland tune on Tom Andersons/Aly
|  Bain's CD The Sliver Bow. Does anyone have this in one of these
|  formats?  Orcould you point me in the right direction?  AND
|  What's a Voe?  or even a Silvery  Voe
|
| Voe is verry common word on the maps of Shetland. See Sullom Voe, the
| location of the large Oil Terminal, which is perhaps the most famous. From
| the map a voe seems to be a body of water such as an inlet or sea-loch -
| similar to fjord perhaps?
|
| Hence the Silvery Voe. I think this is a Tom Anderson Tune and it might be
| in Ringing Strings or one of the other collections in the same series.

Yup; it's on page 37.  Here it is, with Tom's explanation, and with the
somewhat unusual positioning of the pickup to the second part:

X: 1
T: The Silvery Voe
C: Tom Anderson 1966
B: Ringing Strings p.37
Z: John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
N: When the full moon shines down on a Shetland voe in winter the sea appears to be
N: shining silver.  Composed in the winter of 1966 when driving along Weisdale Voe.
N: In the key of F major, as that key to me is always a silver colour. From a tape
N: recording of Tom by a student.
M: C
L: 1/8
K: F
C \
[| A3G F2C2 |  D2F2  C4  | D2B2 C2A2 | (BA) GF G2C2 |
   A3G F2C2 | (D2F2) D3B | AC3 B,2G2 | F4 F2 :| AB |
  (c3A) (f3A)  | B3c/d/ (c3A) | B2(dB) A2(cA) | (BA) GF G2AB |
  (c3A) (f2A2) | B2cd   (c3B) | AC3   (A3G)   | F3E kFG kAB |
  (c3A) (f2A2) | B2cd   (c3A) | BkdcB AkcBA   | (BA)GF G2C2 |
   F3G   F2C2  | D2F2C2B2 | AC3   B,2G2   | F4-F4 |]
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[scots-l] Re: Amazing Grace

2001-07-13 Thread Keith W Dunn


With all the discussion that's centered around this
Song/tuneAmazing Grace ( and intriguing depth thereof ) I was just
wondering if anyone know's how well the words work with the theme music
of Gilligans Island.  This was brought to my attention several years
ago and stuck with me.

Sorry for the break in train of thought concerning this most insightful
discussion.

Keith Dunn


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