Re: [scots-l] Few Notes
I came across the Irish polka below, and what drew me to it was how few
notes are used in the tune (five in all).
[i.e. D to B for a D whistle]
That tune seems to be derived from March to the Battlefield, which
itself uses a full octave.
I'm trying to find Scottish tunes which use as few notes, for use
in teaching complete beginners. Any suggestions?
The first half of Katie Bairdie (in D).
The first half of Fingal's Cave (in E minor).
The second half of The Ale is Dear (in E minor).
The chorus of Caller Herrin (in G).
...etc... - there are quite a few tunes where the first half works.
The classic Scottish example of a tune which uses very few notes is
the pibroch Grain in Hides and Corn in Sacks - G to e on the pipes.
Wrong scale to fit what you want and I don't think the students
would stick around long...
The old version of Teribus in my modes tutorial (which I'm currently
updating) is in the range you want but would need a G sharp.
The two neatest examples of tunes in your range I know of are German:
Veris leta faciem from Orff's Carmina Burana (you'd do it in E
minor for what you want, but it's handier on the recorder as you can
play it in A minor on the left hand alone and do something else with
the spare hand) and the mediaeval love song Under der linden an der
heide by Walther van der Vogelweide (in G).
Here's Orff's tune turned into a 6/8 march with a second part added.
X:1
T:Mr Orff's March
M:6/8
L:1/8
K:E Minor
EFG F2E|FED E3 |EFG F2E |FED E3 |
EFG F2E|A2F GFE|A2F GFE|EFD E3:|
G2A B2G|AGF E2B |G2A B2G |AGA B3 |
BAG A2F|BAG A2F |A2F GFE|EFD E3:|
and here's Walther's left as is apart from a slight whistlification:
X:2
T:Under der linden an der heide
C:Walther van der Vogelweide
S:the way Andrea van Ramm sang it with Syntagma
N:Musicum but with a few extra gracenotes
M:3/4
L:1/8
Q:1/4=100
K:G
B4 {A}BA| B3 B{A}BA|G4 {AG}F2|{GA}G6 |\
B4 {A}BA| B3 B{A}BA|G4 {AG}F2|{GA}G6 |
A4 {B}AG| B4 {A}B2|A4 {BA}B2|{FA}F4 {A}G2|\
A4 {G}AG| B4 {A}B2|G4 {A}F2|G6 |
B4 {A}B2|{A}B4 {A}B2|B4 {A}B2|B6 |\
B4 {A}BF|{A}G6 |\
A4 {G}AG| B4 {A}B2|G4 {AG}F2|{GA}G6 |]
The high D is a problem because it takes a particular skill to
play it, and I'd like to wait a while before learning that skill.
That's one way a recorder is a better bet for pipe music - what
corresponds to the high A on a chanter isn't overblown, so the
fingering and tone quality flows more evenly across the nine notes
God made.
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Re: [scots-l] Few Notes
- Original Message - From: Jack Campin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 11:56 PM Subject: Re: [scots-l] Few Notes The old version of Teribus in my modes tutorial (which I'm currently updating) That's great! That tutorial is just fantastic, it helped me (and still does) a lot to understand many things around modes and scales in traditional music, congratulations for your work and I wait for the results of the new version! Manuel Waldesco Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Few Notes
Bluebells of Scotland springs immediately to mind. Bruce Campbell From: Nigel Gatherer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Scots-L Posting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [scots-l] Few Notes Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 14:52:15 +0100 I came across the Irish polka below, and what drew me to it was how few notes are used in the tune (five in all). I'm trying to find Scottish tunes which use as few notes, for use in teaching complete beginners. Any suggestions? X:1 T:no name R:polka H:Also in A, #111 D:Martin O'Connor: The Connachtman's Rambles Z:id:hn-polka-113 M:2/4 L:1/8 K:G B2 BA|GE ED|EA AB/A/|GE ED|B2 BA|GE ED|EG AB/A/|G2 GA:| BA AG|BA AG|A2 AB/A/|GE ED|BA AG|BA AG|A2 AB/A/|G2 GA:| -- Nigel Gatherer, Crieff, Scotland [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/gatherer/ Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html Bruce Campbell (Editor, CELTIC WORLD - now printed in Scotland and Australia) Duntroon Publishing 81 Marine Parade Kirn Dunoon Argyll PA23 8HF TEL: 01369 702 287 MOBILE: 077 5984 5201 _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Few Notes
What about the Blackberry Bush reel? It would take longer to learn because it has 4 parts but it's also a pentatonic tune and sounds similar to this Irish polka. Another option would be Harris Dance though, in all cases, these are tunes which jump the octave, if you want tunes with just five notes in the same octave, well, I cannot think of any, sorry!(apart from the first part of the Blackberry Bush). If I find any, I'll let you know. Manuel Waldesco Edinburgh - Original Message - From: Nigel Gatherer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Scots-L Posting [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 2:52 PM Subject: [scots-l] Few Notes I came across the Irish polka below, and what drew me to it was how few notes are used in the tune (five in all). I'm trying to find Scottish tunes which use as few notes, for use in teaching complete beginners. Any suggestions? X:1 T:no name R:polka H:Also in A, #111 D:Martin O'Connor: The Connachtman's Rambles Z:id:hn-polka-113 M:2/4 L:1/8 K:G B2 BA|GE ED|EA AB/A/|GE ED|B2 BA|GE ED|EG AB/A/|G2 GA:| BA AG|BA AG|A2 AB/A/|GE ED|BA AG|BA AG|A2 AB/A/|G2 GA:| -- Nigel Gatherer, Crieff, Scotland [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/gatherer/ Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Few Notes
I came across the Irish polka below, and what drew me to it was how few notes are used in the tune (five in all). I'm trying to find Scottish tunes which use as few notes, for use in teaching complete beginners. Any suggestions? I always use Mairi's Wedding in A. Works out well on the fiddle starting on the E on the D string. It's hexatonic and repetitive and most people have heard it. It has do re mi in it. Everybody always gets it, even little kids, which I haven't found with many other tunes. - Kate -- http://www.DunGreenMusic.com Halifax, Nova Scotia Posted to Scots-L - The Traditional Scottish Music Culture List - To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [scots-l] Few Notes
In a message dated 4/14/02 9:55:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to find Scottish tunes which use as few notes, for use in teaching complete beginners. We've been discussing "Come Give Me Your Hand" on the wire harp list. It's ALMOST pentatonic, but I think it goes outside the range of one "octave". Do you know "Blow the Man Down" on your side of the pond? (I'm in America...) Six notes, but lots of pettern repeats make it a good teaching tune. Skye Boat Song, of coursefamiliar as the day is long, and only 5 notes though again it's not limited to the range of one octave. Almost. May I put on my Pedagogy Hat? Now, I don't play the fiddle, and maybe it's different from my experience. But I look more for tunes that have lots of repetition in pattern, rather than focus solely on tunes that have just a few notes. The Steve Foster tune "Oh! Susanna" for example, works real well with my American students, because it is very familiar (they already know the tune, so I don't have to teach that) and the first, second and fourth phrases are identical. Au Clair de la Lune is the same way. Besides looking for tunes with absolute, dead-on repeated passages, I also look for repeating *patterns* (sequences and/or repeating rhythmic patterns). Skye Boat comes back to mind...the same rhythm over and over again. You learn the rhythm once, you got it. They Stole My Wife Last Night has a great repeated melodic pattern (if you ignore the gaps. I tell my harp students to pretend the gapped strings are not even there.) BTW, anyone know what "Stole My Wife" is about? Is it reflective of some old wedding tradition, like the American tradition of decorating the newlyweds' car so they can't get away quietly for the honeymoon? --Cynthia Cathcart http://www.cynthiacathcart.net/
