Re: [Scottish] Window manager for tablet?

2014-05-13 Thread Colin McKinnon

On 07/05/14 08:43, ray wrote:


Thanks for the keyboard info; I will investigate local price.  Do you have an 
Intel chipped tablet?  I have not had much luck running regular Linux desktops 
on Arm.


Sorry offline for a bit there. Was back at PCWorld this weekend and 
price is now £48.


I've not tried running a conventional distro on the tablet (arm) I'm 
using VNC viewer on the tablet to access my desktop. If nothing else 
it's an education in how to (not?) to design a UI for a tablet device.


The Word Processor/Spreadsheet app (Kingston Office) which came with the 
tablet (Lenovo Yoga) actually copes quite well with the stuff I've 
thrown at it so far. However I was also hoping to map out tools which 
would be usable via a remote session for BYOD at work - i.e. allowing 
users similar access to what they have from their work desktop, but 
without any data being downloaded (or downloadable) to the device 
itself. And while I could just run virtual Windows machines with VNC, 
Linux/Unix seems a much nicer fit.


Running a browser based application is looking like a better solution, 
but although there seem to be at least 2 projects underway porting 
OpenOffice to the web, there doesn't seem to be a sable release yet.


C.

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Re: [Scottish] Window manager for tablet?

2014-05-07 Thread ray
On Tuesday 06 May 2014 22:15:33 Colin McKinnon wrote:
 Anyone know if window size can controlled via Xresources?

Window size parameters specified via vncviewer or rdesktop get overruled by 
~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-desktoprc
[PlasmaViews][1][Sizes]
lastsize=

This is set with:
System Settings  Display  Monitor  Display Configuration

You can either use ssh to editthis file, or as I have done, create 
~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-desktoprc.local and 
~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-desktoprc.remote 
versions.  A script on my laptop uses ssh to set a hard link from .remote to 
.kde4/share/config/plasma-desktoprc, call vncviewer, then reset the 
plasma-desktoprc link to .local when done.

Thanks for the keyboard info; I will investigate local price.  Do you have an 
Intel chipped tablet?  I have not had much luck running regular Linux desktops 
on Arm.


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Re: [Scottish] Window manager for tablet?

2014-05-06 Thread Colin Shorts
On 6 May 2014 06:35, ray r...@engineering-intelligence.net wrote:

 Has anyone tried a smallish bluetooth keyboard -- I am also experimenting
with a tablet for remote access/administration/support?

I picked up a really cheap Bluetooth keyboard from Sainsbury's and apart
from missing a character or two it works a treat.

Colin

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Re: [Scottish] Window manager for tablet?

2014-05-06 Thread Colin McKinnon

On 06/05/14 06:35, ray wrote:

I haven't tried with a touch screen, but what about
KDE-4  system Settings  Workspace Behaviour  Workspace  Workspace Type : 
Netbook
This opens applications full screen and has a sort of finger-friendly menu 
system.
Ooh. Was rather surprised to find this in my system settings - didn't 
come across a netbook mode in my research and my desktop distro is 
currently a bit old. It seems to have some rough edges - this is a very 
early KDE4, but I'm inspired to do some more digging!


Anyone know if window size can controlled via Xresources?

(now if only I could get OpenOffice to respond to gestures).


Also Openbox-KDE gives access to the KDE environment with a minimal window 
manager (no plasma).

Don't you want to run these (choose as the desktop from e.g. kdm) on the host 
desktop rather than the tablet?


Yes - thinking about accessing my desktop from the tablet but also as a 
way of doing BYOD at work (sorry, did I get it the wrong way around - 
that's the trouble with X Window / RDP / VNC  which is the server 
again?).


Has anyone tried a smallish bluetooth keyboard -- I am also experimenting with 
a tablet for remote access/administration/support.

I did get a rather cheap and nasty bluetooth keyboard free with a case I 
bought for my son's Samsung (somewhat reminiscent of a Sinclair 
Spectrum) I found it difficult to type at speed with (I wouldn't go as 
far to describe what I do as touch-type) and the lag was significant. 
After much soul searching I'm thinking about buying a Microsoft branded 
product - PCWorld are currently selling compact wedge keyboards for £22, 
at least that's what the shelf-edge label said on Saturday at Braehead, 
currently the online price is £48


http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/laptops-netbooks/ipad-tablets-and-ereaders/tablets/tablet-accessories/microsoft-wedge-mobile-keyboard-black-17291822-pdt.html

Not tried it yet with a computer attached but it has a nice action - and 
the fold-out stand is sensible.


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Re: [Scottish] Window manager for tablet?

2014-05-05 Thread ray
On Monday 05 May 2014 21:48:46 Colin McKinnon wrote:
 I'm looking for suggestions for WM which will be usable on a tablet
 (i.e. small screen) VNCing onto a Linux box.

I haven't tried with a touch screen, but what about 
KDE-4  system Settings  Workspace Behaviour  Workspace  Workspace Type : 
Netbook
This opens applications full screen and has a sort of finger-friendly menu 
system.

Also Openbox-KDE gives access to the KDE environment with a minimal window 
manager (no plasma).  

Don't you want to run these (choose as the desktop from e.g. kdm) on the host 
desktop rather than the tablet?

Has anyone tried a smallish bluetooth keyboard -- I am also experimenting with 
a tablet for remote access/administration/support.

-- 
ray


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