Re: [sidr] Request for WG adoption

2009-08-23 Thread Murphy, Sandra
. --Sandy From: Murphy, Sandra Sent: Fri 7/31/2009 9:30 AM To: sidr@ietf.org Cc: Sandy Murphy Subject: [sidr] Request for WG adoption I am opening a two week call for comments on this request for working group adoption of draft-huston-sidr-rpki-algs-00.txt

Re: [sidr] new draft

2011-02-03 Thread Murphy, Sandra
The working group charter does not currently address path security. But there is always the possibility of modification of the charter, particularly as we seem to have finally managed to achieve consensus on a lot of our current work. --Sandy -Original Message- From:

[sidr] cleanup actions

2011-02-04 Thread Murphy, Sandra
You'll soon be seeing a small number of cleanup actions - two drafts whose consensus was never officially called and reminders to some authors that new versions of their draft are needed to address on list comments. Look for the consensus calls on the list here shortly and for the author

Re: [sidr] WG LC for draft-ietf-sidr-signed-object-01

2011-02-04 Thread Murphy, Sandra
notice to the group. --Sandy, speaking with wg co-chair snood on -Original Message- From: Murphy, Sandra Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 4:12 PM To: sidr@ietf.org Subject: WG LC for draft-ietf-sidr-signed-object-01 The authors of draft-ietf-sidr-signed-object-01 (http

Re: [sidr] WG LC for draft-ietf-sidr-roa-validation-10

2011-02-07 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Standards Track. Is that clearer? --Sandy -Original Message- From: Murphy, Sandra Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 9:38 AM To: sidr@ietf.org Cc: Murphy, Sandra Subject: RE: WG LC for draft-ietf-sidr-roa-validation-10 There was a short intense discussion of the intended RFC status

Re: [sidr] WGLC for draft-ietf-sidr-algorithm-agility-03

2011-10-29 Thread Murphy, Sandra
This is a reminder that the last call is in progress and is ending soon. I have encouraged people to comment on this in the past. I think it is an important feature of what we are building and deserves some careful attention. It would not be good to be faced in the future with the need to

[sidr] reminders and synopsis

2011-10-29 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Reminders of some recently completed and ongoing activity. (Brian suggested reminders and it seems like a good idea to me - comments on the usefulness encouraged.) Reminder: Notice the two ongoing requests for your response: draft-ietf-sidr-algorithm-agility-03 wglc to end 3 Nov

[sidr] agenda posted

2011-11-03 Thread Murphy, Sandra
I have posted an agenda from requests for time and from drafts with recent activity to discuss. Please look at the agenda and tell me whether you think the time you are allotted is adequate. We are still considering a time slot change. We have firm offers for a change to Mon afternoon and a

Re: [sidr] WGLC for draft-ietf-sidr-algorithm-agility-03

2011-11-11 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Guys, guys, guys. Steve: making reference to a person's company concentrates too much on the personal. Please be more careful. Brian, Eric: If you meant some individual contributors who I happen to know and discuss this with, saying my colleagues was subject to misinterpretation,

[sidr] presentations, jabber scribe and minute taker

2011-11-11 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Those who have slots for presentation at the sidr meeting please send slides to both chairs by Tuesday morning. Despite similar requests in the past, we seem to frequently have presentations that show up during the meeting. Please do not do that. Presentations must be uploaded for everyone

[sidr] some sidr replaced by cleanup

2011-11-14 Thread Murphy, Sandra
I'm about to request some cleanup of the draft replaced by relationships. If you see anything incorrect about the list below, please let me know. The tools page already records some of these replaced by records. However, the datatracker is authoritative and the datatracker has not caught

Re: [sidr] WGLC for draft-ietf-sidr-algorithm-agility-03

2011-11-14 Thread Murphy, Sandra
definitely have said If Brian meant. --Sandy, to clarify my previous speaking as wg chair From: Murphy, Sandra Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 3:47 PM To: Brian Dickson; Stephen Kent Cc: sidr@ietf.org Subject: RE: [sidr] WGLC for draft-ietf-sidr-algorithm

[sidr] FW: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-sidr-algorithm-agility-04.txt

2011-12-08 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Dear WG, Roque mentions below that the authors believe that all comments have been addressed. It would help the process and the chairs if those of you who made comments say whether you believe that your comments have been adequately or acceptably addressed. Sandy, speaking as wg chair

Re: [sidr] WGLC: draft-ietf-sidr-usecases-02.txt

2011-12-21 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Review and comment in the last call period was rather limited. The authors produced a revised version and not all commenters have responded to the revised version to say they are satisfied. I reviewed the document to see if comments were addressed. I have comments - see below. I have

Re: [sidr] WGLC: draft-ietf-sidr-usecases-02.txt

2011-12-22 Thread Murphy, Sandra
: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:37 PM To: Randy Bush Cc: sidr wg; Murphy, Sandra Subject: Re: [sidr] WGLC: draft-ietf-sidr-usecases-02.txt On 22/12/2011, at 2:32 PM, Randy Bush wrote: And why not use the documentation prefix(es) and documentation AS(es) in this draft. rather than 10/8 etc. That's what

Re: [sidr] Key learning procedures in BGPsec?

2012-01-17 Thread Murphy, Sandra
About #1: ROAs are used for origin validation. (*) The bgpsec router needs only the prefix-AS binding in the ROA, not the crypto part, and only for the origin validation, not the signature attribute validation. The rpki-rtr protocol is one way to communicate that binding. The bgpsec

Re: [sidr] Key learning procedures in BGPsec?

2012-01-19 Thread Murphy, Sandra
About your all BGPSEC routers in the global routing system - keep in mind that the ebgp routers are the ones that need a private key, not all the routers in an AS. While we have a lot of info on churn in routing updates, I am not certain how to predict how much church there will be in the keys

[sidr] WG adoption call for draft-ymbk-rpki-rtr-impl-01.txt

2012-01-20 Thread Murphy, Sandra
The working group has been requested to adopt draft-ymbk-rpki-rtr-impl-01.txt as a working group draft. The draft is available at http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ymbk-rpki-rtr-impl. Please respond to the list to say whether you accept this draft as a working group draft and are willing to

[sidr] interim meeting registration

2012-01-26 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Logistics are made for the interim meeting. To register for the meeting, please send a message to interim-s...@tislabs.com. There is NO registration fee for this meeting, but please do register so room arrangements are suitable for the number of attendees. Updates on meeting logistics will

Re: [sidr] interim meeting registration

2012-01-26 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Forgot to ask: In your registration message, please indicate your affiliation, for the purpose of completing the wiki attendee list. Also, the obligatory note that this is --Sandy, speaking as wg co-chair From: Murphy, Sandra Sent: Thursday, January 26

Re: [sidr] interim meeting registration

2012-01-26 Thread Murphy, Sandra
will not be noted on the wiki attendees page. --Sandy, speaking as co-chair -Original Message- From: sidr-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:sidr-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Murphy, Sandra Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 5:00 PM To: sidr@ietf.org Cc: sidr-cha...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [sidr] interim

Re: [sidr] agenda for upcoming interim meeting

2012-01-31 Thread Murphy, Sandra
7:57 PM To: Murphy, Sandra Cc: sidr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [sidr] agenda for upcoming interim meeting Is going to be any kind of remote participation (jabber, audio, etc.)? Thanks, -as On 30 Jan 2012, at 21:34, Murphy, Sandra wrote: I have received a couple of requests to present

Re: [sidr] Key learning procedures in BGPsec?

2012-01-31 Thread Murphy, Sandra
. And in order becomes a more complex idea as well. -Sandy, speaking as regular ol' member From: ross.ander...@cl.cam.ac.uk [rossjander...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:05 AM To: sidr@ietf.org list Cc: Murphy, Sandra; Brian Dickson Subject

Re: [sidr] interim meeting registration

2012-02-03 Thread Murphy, Sandra
). --Sandy, speaking as wg co-chair From: Murphy, Sandra Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:22 PM To: Murphy, Sandra; sidr@ietf.org Cc: sidr-cha...@ietf.org Subject: RE: interim meeting registration I should have known that IETF-ers would not be happy with the free

[sidr] congratulations to working group and authors

2012-02-05 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Congratulations to the working group and in particular to the authors for the publication of the following RFCs. Thanks to the authors for all the hard work to complete this large set of documents. 1.RFC 6480 on An Infrastructure to Support Secure Internet Routing M. Lepinski, S.

[sidr] interim sidr meeting - remote participation - WebEx details

2012-02-08 Thread Murphy, Sandra
A WebEx session has been arranged by the IETF Secretariat for remote participation in the interim sidr meeting Thu 9 Mar. Below is the WebEx announcement of the meeting. --Sandy, speaking as wg co-chair === The IETF SIDR co-chairs invite you

[sidr] interim sidr meeting location (and room change)

2012-02-08 Thread Murphy, Sandra
The interim sidr meeting will be located at Bristol Hotel 1055 First Avenue, San Diego, California 92101 Phone: 800-662-4477 http://www.thebristolsandiego.com/ All those who registered should have received a message with this info. The message also said that we would be in their City Scene

[sidr] agenda and materials for interim meeting Thu 09 Feb 2012

2012-02-09 Thread Murphy, Sandra
First, I'd like to point to everyone that the IETF Secretariat (happiness and long life to them) now support interim meetings with a proceedings page. The proceedings page for the Thu 09 Feb 2012 interim sidr meeting is here:

Re: [sidr] a hack for the next generation of rpki-based origin validation

2012-02-16 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Speaking as only a regular ol' member. btw: I agree with the this is absolutely not for now part. Your idea authorizes one prefix and says more specifics are OK. Synopsis: It doesn't buy you much and it makes life much more complicated. First, saying more specifics are OK does not buy you

[sidr] important upcoming dates for IETF 83

2012-02-23 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Here's the usual reminder of important upcoming dates for IETF 83: •2012-02-27 (Monday): Working Group Chair approval for initial document (Version -00) submissions appreciated by 17:00 PT (UTC -8). •2012-03-02 (Friday): Final agenda to be published. •2012-03-05 (Monday): Internet Draft Cut-off

[sidr] interim meeting minutes

2012-02-25 Thread Murphy, Sandra
The interim meeting on Thu 9 Feb was an all day event. The minutes (for the 8 hour day) are below. Jabber logs of the meeting are at http://www.ietf.org/jabber/logs/sidr/2012-02-09.html http://www.ietf.org/jabber/logs/sidr/2012-02-10.html (No we did not talk for two days. The jabber logs are

Re: [sidr] attendees at interim sidr meeting 09 Feb 2012

2012-02-26 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Goburdhan Randy Bachman Shane Amante Adam Vitkovsky Stewart Brian Dickson Jan Borkenhagen Michael Sinatra Sandra Murphy From: sidr-boun...@ietf.org [sidr-boun...@ietf.org] on behalf of Murphy, Sandra [sandra.mur...@sparta.com] Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 5:32

Re: [sidr] attendees at interim sidr meeting 09 Feb 2012

2012-02-27 Thread Murphy, Sandra
From: Randy Bush [ra...@psg.com] Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 10:25 PM To: Murphy, Sandra Cc: sidr@ietf.org; proceedi...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [sidr] attendees at interim sidr meeting 09 Feb 2012 In addition, the webex recording reports the webex attendees

Re: [sidr] attendees at interim sidr meeting 09 Feb 2012

2012-02-27 Thread Murphy, Sandra
on this one) to prevent bloat to their system. --Sandy From: sidr-boun...@ietf.org [sidr-boun...@ietf.org] on behalf of Murphy, Sandra [sandra.mur...@sparta.com] Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 4:37 AM To: Randy Bush Cc: proceedi...@ietf.org; sidr@ietf.org Subject

[sidr] wg adoption call for draft-ymbk-bgpsec-rtr-rekeying-00.txt

2012-03-07 Thread Murphy, Sandra
The following request has been made for wg adoption of draft-ymbk-bgpsec-rtr-rekeying-00.txt. The draft is available at http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ymbk-rpki-rtr-impl-01. Please respond to the list to say whether you accept this draft as a working group draft and are willing to work on

[sidr] FW: Invitation to Web seminar: Virtual meeting - Mar 2012

2012-03-07 Thread Murphy, Sandra
The co-chairs have arranged a virtual meeting for Mar 24, 2012. As per process, an agenda will be announced by one week before the event. This is scheduled for a full day - we will use this experience to gauge future meetings. --Sandy, speaking as wg co-chair From: messen...@webex.com

Re: [sidr] WG adoption call for draft-ymbk-rpki-rtr-impl-01.txt

2012-03-08 Thread Murphy, Sandra
From: sidr-boun...@ietf.org [sidr-boun...@ietf.org] on behalf of Murphy, Sandra [sandra.mur...@sparta.com] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 11:04 AM To: sidr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [sidr] WG adoption call for draft-ymbk-rpki-rtr-impl-01.txt A suggestion was made at the last wg call

[sidr] nagging about agenda requests

2012-03-12 Thread Murphy, Sandra
I have seen few requests for agenda time at the sidr meeting. The draft agendas are due Wed of this week. If you think you have something to address to the entire group, now would be a good time to ask for a time slot. --Sandy ___ sidr mailing list

[sidr] route leaks message to IDR

2012-03-13 Thread Murphy, Sandra
In the interim meeting, the consensus was that we needed idr to be involved in any definition and solution for route leaks. It was decided to discuss a message to the idr wg on the sidr list. Brian Dickson has submitted drafts about route leaks, as he offered in the meeting. So here is a

[sidr] FW: question on SKI and router public key retrieval in signature attribute in BGPSEC

2012-03-14 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Sorry, did not reply to the list. --Sandy From: Murphy, Sandra Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:40 AM To: nalini iyer Subject: RE: [sidr] question on SKI and router public key retrieval in signature attribute in BGPSEC Speaking as regular ol' member

Re: [sidr] route leaks message to IDR

2012-03-14 Thread Murphy, Sandra
of a new routing feature? --Sandy From: Eric Osterweil [eosterw...@verisign.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 2:38 PM To: George, Wes Cc: Murphy, Sandra; sidr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [sidr] route leaks message to IDR I'd also like to add that (if I'm

[sidr] agenda uploaded

2012-03-14 Thread Murphy, Sandra
A draft agenda for the IETF 83 meeting has been uploaded. If you believe that you requested time on the agenda, or you want to make a request to be on the agenda, there's still time to contact the chairs and/or list. There may be movement of presentations to accommodate the presenters or to

[sidr] agenda for virtual meeting Mar 24

2012-03-17 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Here is the agenda for the sidr virtual meeting on Sat 24 Mar 2012. UTC 0800-1030. Protocol spec In depth protocol review, doc structure, forward path, etc. draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-protocol-02 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-protocol UTC 1030-1230 Break UTC

Re: [sidr] replies needed quickly RE: possible additional meeting times

2012-03-19 Thread Murphy, Sandra
From: Brian Dickson [brian.peter.dick...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 6:36 PM To: Murphy, Sandra Cc: sidr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [sidr] replies needed quickly RE: possible additional meeting times Given that there is not a lot of lead time before

Re: [sidr] route leaks message to IDR

2012-03-20 Thread Murphy, Sandra
is unclear. Please send suggested rewording. --Sandy, speaking as wg co-chair --sent 7:04amEDT, 11:04UTC From: Eric Osterweil [eosterw...@verisign.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:35 PM To: Stephen Kent Cc: George, Wes; Murphy, Sandra; sidr@ietf.org

Re: [sidr] SIDR Interim 24/March is CANCELLED

2012-03-21 Thread Murphy, Sandra
In the flurry of apologetic emails that preceeded and followed this announcement, I did not apolgize to the working group. This was my strictly my bungle, in two different directions. First, I announced the meeting to the sidr mailing list within the time frame required by process. The bungle

Re: [sidr] route leaks message to IDR

2012-03-22 Thread Murphy, Sandra
This has become a long and tortuous rat hole, leading off into branching rat holes. It all started with prospective text to the idr wg about the route leaks problem. The furor started over the suggested text's stated motivation for asking. But there have been no objections to conferring with

[sidr] additional interim meetings

2012-03-22 Thread Murphy, Sandra
As the last few day's email explosion has shown, this is a complex topic, covering routing, security, operations, governance, policy, etc. The complexities mean more energy and time for debate is needed than is possible in IETF meetings. Progress so far in the working group has been aided

[sidr] sidr meetings, Monday and Wednesday

2012-03-23 Thread Murphy, Sandra
The Secretariat confirmed today that the sidr meeting will have the slot on Monday 1300-1500 vacated by EAI. The IETF agenda site is not yet updated with this information, as they must also do a room change. Brian Dickson has agreed to move his presentation to the Monday time slot.

[sidr] get slides to chairs early

2012-03-23 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Slides need to be uploaded to the meetings materials site before the meeting. The chair laptops will be busy, so if you walk in with a memory stick, you may be speaking to a blank screen. So presenters on Wednesday, please have your slides to the wg chairs by midnight Wed morning IETF local

[sidr] agenda for Monday

2012-03-25 Thread Murphy, Sandra
I uploaded a new agenda that covers both days. On Monday, we will have Brian Dickson talking about route leaks first. Brian will be remote from six hours before us, so be extra attentive. Sriram will go next as his presentation got shortened last time (by extensive route leaks discussion,

[sidr] WebEx info for the meeting today

2012-03-25 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Here is the info for the WebEx session for today's wg meeting. This was set up for Brian to use in a remote presentation but anyone can join who needs to. --Sandy, speaking as wg co-chair Hello SIDR Working Group, Secure Inter-Domain Routing Working Group invites you to attend a Web seminar

Re: [sidr] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6487 (3168)

2012-03-27 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Thank you, Geoff. I agree. --Sandy From: Geoff Huston [g...@apnic.net] Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 11:33 PM To: RFC Errata System Cc: g...@apnic.net; robe...@apnic.net; stbry...@cisco.com; adr...@olddog.co.uk; Murphy, Sandra; morr...@ops-netman.net

Re: [sidr] Interim Meeting Dates/Locations (Proposed)

2012-03-27 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Moderate badness in the Monday meeting was due to my laptop communication problems. Suggestions welcome as how to handle such a situation better. Pkt loss for me varied 0-33-50-100%. Help desk and NOC were unable to diagnose. On hotel wireless, I see congestion (judged by ping latencies)

[sidr] remote participation experience today

2012-03-28 Thread Murphy, Sandra
The webex session on Monday failed completely, due to laptop wireless incapability to maintain a connection (20-50-80-100% packet loss). The webex session on Wednesday (this morning) seemed to work (alternate networking arranged). But being the presentation laptop for webex, I was unable to

[sidr] status of draft-ietf-sidr-cps-irs and draft-ietf-sidr-cps-isp

2012-03-28 Thread Murphy, Sandra
These two drafts have been expired for a good while now. Do the authors intend to pick them up now that the CP document is published? The wg should take a look at these and see if there is still interest in pursuing them. --Sandy, speaking as wg co-chair

Re: [sidr] Injecting idea of freshness of repository data into BGP

2012-03-29 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Speaking as regular ol' member. Too bad you couldn't make the meeting, Danny. This is in bgpsec path validation and the signalling would go no further than the bgpsec path validation would go. A method of signalling that was mentioned was the validity periods on the router keys so all RPKI

Re: [sidr] Slides for RPKI Over BitTorrent presentation

2012-03-29 Thread Murphy, Sandra
i don't think the rsync scale issues surprise anyone that was paying attention. I am not sure what part of the presentation you are talking about. In the day in the life presentation, I saw only differences due to implementation, not differences due to scale. And in the rpki over

Re: [sidr] remote participation experience today

2012-03-29 Thread Murphy, Sandra
, March 29, 2012 7:51 AM To: Murphy, Sandra Cc: sidr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [sidr] remote participation experience today Sandra, I attend the meeting remotely on both Monday and Wednesday. I did not feel the need for Webex as the audio streaming + jabber worked just fine. My only comment is to re

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-usecases-03.txt

2012-03-30 Thread Murphy, Sandra
From: Brian Dickson [brian.peter.dick...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 8:55 AM To: Murphy, Sandra Cc: Christopher Morrow; Sriram, Kotikalapudi; Chris Morrow; sidr@ietf.org list Subject: Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-usecases-03.txt Sandy, The use case example I

Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-threats-02: Path shortening lengthening

2012-04-06 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Speaking as regular ol' member Shane, I'm having some trouble following your argument. Here's what I think you are saying. You are exploring options for dropping an update based on detecting a loop - whether the loop detection should be before or after the check of the path signatures. If

Re: [sidr] [Idr] draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-threats-02: Path shortening lengthening

2012-04-09 Thread Murphy, Sandra
speaking as regular ol' member There is no reverse direction. Incoming paths that are unsigned are not propagated by bgpsec speakers as signed paths. And intradomain BGP speakers do not use bgpsec (ebgp sessions only). And AS4_PATH is not needed in bgpsec speakers - who are assumed to be

Re: [sidr] [Idr] draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-threats-02: Path shortening lengthening

2012-04-09 Thread Murphy, Sandra
From: Robert Raszuk [rob...@raszuk.net] Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 1:22 PM To: Murphy, Sandra Cc: Sriram, Kotikalapudi; i...@ietf.org List; sidr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Idr] [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-threats-02: Path shortening lengthening Hi Sandy

Re: [sidr] Interim Meeting Draft Agenda: 04-30-2012 (April 30, 2012)

2012-04-11 Thread Murphy, Sandra
speaking as regular ol' member On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:15 PM, Danny McPherson [da...@tcb.net] said: From there, we can discuss the issue of, for example, HOW TO onboard and purge signing and validating certificates to routers from the RPKI -- [I suspect the intention was to use rpki-rtr

[sidr] agenda and reminder for Apr 30 (Monday) meeting.

2012-04-26 Thread Murphy, Sandra
There has been a rearrangement of the agenda items to help out some speakers' time restrictions. The new agenda moves the pfx-validate discussion to the first thing on the agenda. The agenda is posted at http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/sidr/trac/wiki/InterimMeeting20120430 0900-0910 Agenda

[sidr] attendees at interim 30 Apr meeting

2012-04-26 Thread Murphy, Sandra
The attendees who have registered for the sidr interim meeting on Mon Apr 30 are recorded at: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/sidr/trac/wiki/InterimMeeting20120430-attendees If you believe that you did register, and do not see your name on this list, please forward your original registration

[sidr] date/time/logistics for Jun meeting in association with nanog

2012-04-27 Thread Murphy, Sandra
One of the upcoming sidr interim meetings is scheduled to be held in association with NANOG 55 in Vancouver. The hope was to attract operators from NANOG to attend the sidr meeting. Originally, there were indications that NANOG might be able to provide meeting room support for an interim sidr

Re: [sidr] Apr 30 Interim Meeting final pre-meeting-info

2012-04-30 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Times are in EDT: UTC-4. --Sandy From: sidr-boun...@ietf.org [sidr-boun...@ietf.org] on behalf of Geoff Huston [g...@apnic.net] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 1:14 AM To: Chris Morrow Cc: Christopher Morrow; sidr-cha...@ietf.org; sidr@ietf.org Subject:

[sidr] FW: Invitation to Web seminar: firstinterimbeforeVancouver

2012-04-30 Thread Murphy, Sandra
For those attending remotely, here is the full webex invitation. --Sandy From: messen...@webex.com [messen...@webex.com] Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 10:56 AM To: Murphy, Sandra Subject: Invitation to Web seminar: firstinterimbeforeVancouver [https

Re: [sidr] Invitation to Web seminar: firstinterimbeforeVancouver

2012-04-30 Thread Murphy, Sandra
of Murphy, Sandra [sandra.mur...@sparta.com] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 7:21 AM To: sidr@ietf.org Subject: [sidr] FW: Invitation to Web seminar: firstinterimbeforeVancouver For those attending remotely, here is the full webex invitation. --Sandy From: messen

Re: [sidr] date/time/logistics for Jun meeting in association with nanog

2012-05-03 Thread Murphy, Sandra
A reminder that consensus will be called on Friday morning (early). --Sandy From: Murphy, Sandra Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 5:13 AM To: sidr@ietf.org Subject: RE: date/time/logistics for Jun meeting in association with nanog Note that we are coming up

Re: [sidr] Interim Meeting (Apr 30, 2012) fallout/lessons/room-foo

2012-05-03 Thread Murphy, Sandra
I actually was pleased with the amount of useful participation we had from remote participants. Of course, that does not mean that all participants were as pleased with their experience. I'm glad that you found the note-taking useful. I'm sorry that the typing of the note taking disturbed

[sidr] RPKI and private keys (was RE: Interim Meeting Draft Agenda: 04-30-2012 (April 30, 2012)))

2012-05-04 Thread Murphy, Sandra
of Murphy, Sandra [sandra.mur...@sparta.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 1:28 PM To: Danny McPherson; Christopher Morrow Cc: sidr-...@tools.ietf.org; sidr-cha...@tools.ietf.org; sidr wg Subject: Re: [sidr] Interim Meeting Draft Agenda: 04-30-2012 (April 30, 2012) speaking as regular ol' member

Re: [sidr] UPDATED: SIDR Working Group Interim Meeting: Wednesday, June 6, 2012

2012-05-04 Thread Murphy, Sandra
NANOG is meeting in the morning. As we hope to attract operators, we don't want to overlap. Not to mention nanog's desire to avoid conflicts with their agenda. And members who go to nanog. This is as was originally announced. --Sandy From:

[sidr] IETF83 minutes augmented

2012-05-11 Thread Murphy, Sandra
John Scudder took minutes for both IETF83 sessions in etherpad, which I uploaded to the proceedings page. (Note to the wg: the etherpad is a useful way to take mintues, as they are visible in real time as they are being entered. It is also a collaborative tool.) I just uploaded a new version

Re: [sidr] Keys and algorithms for Updates - feasibility analysis? (was Re: RPKI and private keys)

2012-05-11 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Before we get too involved in discussing performance and different methods of measuring performance, I think it is very important to address the features of what Brian is suggesting; such as: what security services are being supplied? who is involved in the service - where is the service

Re: [sidr] Keys and algorithms for Updates - feasibility analysis? (was Re: RPKI and private keys)

2012-05-11 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Answering a response to a statement made as wg chair wrt: Brian Dickson [brian.peter.dick...@gmail.com] said on Friday, May 11, 2012 3:44 PM On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Murphy, Sandra sandra.mur...@sparta.com wrote: Before we get too involved in discussing performance and different

Re: [sidr] RPKI and private keys (was RE: Interim Meeting Draft Agenda: 04-30-2012 (April 30, 2012)))

2012-05-14 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Brewing where? (Astonishing, would like to hear more.) --Sandy From: sidr-boun...@ietf.org [sidr-boun...@ietf.org] on behalf of Montgomery, Douglas [do...@nist.gov] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 11:33 AM To: Warren Kumari; Christopher Morrow Cc: Rob

[sidr] reminder of minutes deadline for IETF83

2012-05-15 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Final versions of minutes are due tomorrow: 2012-05-16 (Wednesday): Proceedings submission corrections cutoff date by 17:00 PT (UTC -7), If you have any corrections to what was uploaded, get them to the chairs. --Sandy ___ sidr mailing list

[sidr] request for agenda items for interim meeting 6 Jun

2012-05-16 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Potential agenda items for the 6 Jun interim meeting. The agenda needs to be announced two weeks ahead of time, which is next Wednesday. Please send suggested topics to the list. Below are two suggestions to spark the discussion. (1) AS_PATH There was one agenda topic that we never directly

Re: [sidr] minutes of 30 Apr 2012 interim meeting

2012-05-17 Thread Murphy, Sandra
the existence of a jabber log for any day. --Sandy From: t.petch [ie...@btconnect.com] Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 4:28 AM To: Murphy, Sandra; sidr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [sidr] minutes of 30 Apr 2012 interim meeting Mmmm The proceedings page still has no link

Re: [sidr] minutes of 30 Apr 2012 interim meeting

2012-05-17 Thread Murphy, Sandra
From: Murphy, Sandra Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 12:30 PM To: t.petch; sidr@ietf.org Subject: RE: [sidr] minutes of 30 Apr 2012 interim meeting Mmm, indeed. The meeting materials page records that minutes and agenda were uploaded successfully. So I do not know why

Re: [sidr] request for agenda items for interim meeting 6 Jun

2012-05-21 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Agenda deadline is Wed 23 Jun (day after tomorrow). Please send suggestions to the list. --Sandy, speaking as wg co-chair From: sidr-boun...@ietf.org [sidr-boun...@ietf.org] on behalf of Murphy, Sandra [sandra.mur...@sparta.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 16

Re: [sidr] request for agenda items for interim meeting 6 Jun

2012-05-22 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Melnikov Cc: sidr@ietf.org; Murphy, Sandra Subject: Re: [sidr] request for agenda items for interim meeting 6 Jun On May 22, 2012, at 10:52 AM, Alexey Melnikov wrote: Hi WG, On 22 May 2012, at 07:08, Murphy, Sandra sandra.mur...@sparta.com wrote: An eagle eye reader points out that the agenda

[sidr] WGLC for draft-ietf-sidr-rpsl-sig-05.txt

2012-05-24 Thread Murphy, Sandra
The authors have stated that they believe that draft-ietf-sidr-rpsl-sig-05 Securing RPSL Objects with RPKI Signatures is ready for a working group last call. The draft can be accessed at http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sidr-rpsl-sig-05 and

Re: [sidr] request for agenda items for interim meeting 6 Jun

2012-05-30 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Speaking as regular ol' wg member: Thanks for all of this John. Excellent thoughts. Philosophically, the thing that makes me worry the most is that we're cutting out one of BGP's fundamental elements and replacing it with one which provides only a subset of its semantics. Specific things

Re: [sidr] are audio archive files for the ietf 83 sessions available?

2012-05-31 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Speaking as regular ol' member I find audio files at http://www.ietf.org/audio/ietf83/ietf83-241-20120326-1256-pm.mp3 and http://www.ietf.org/audio/ietf83/ietf83-241-20120328-0855-am.mp3 that work for me. Are those the files you were trying to access? If not, do these work for you? I got there

Re: [sidr] are audio archive files for the ietf 83 sessions available?

2012-05-31 Thread Murphy, Sandra
and physically moved after the meeting. It looks like the tools site has not been updated with the new location. I'll let the secretariat/tools team know. --Sandy, speaking as regular ol' member From: sidr-boun...@ietf.org [sidr-boun...@ietf.org] on behalf of Murphy, Sandra

Re: [sidr] WGLC for draft-ietf-sidr-rpsl-sig-05.txt

2012-06-01 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Remember that this wglc ends a week from today. --Sandy, speaking as wg co-chair From: sidr-boun...@ietf.org [sidr-boun...@ietf.org] on behalf of Murphy, Sandra [sandra.mur...@sparta.com] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 7:06 PM To: sidr@ietf.org Cc: draft

[sidr] WGLC for draft-ietf-sidr-pfx-validate-06

2012-06-01 Thread Murphy, Sandra
The authors have stated that they believe that draft-ietf-sidr-pfx-validate-06 BGP Prefix Origin Validation is ready for a working group last call. The draft can be accessed at http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sidr-pfx-validate-06 and

[sidr] reminder of details for tomorrow

2012-06-05 Thread Murphy, Sandra
A reminder of information for the interim meeting scheduled for tomorrow. The wiki page is http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/sidr/trac/wiki/InterimMeeting20120606 Note that the wiki page is updated with new info. (Almost) all the following is copied from the updated wiki page. The webex session

[sidr] chair duties at interim meeting

2012-06-05 Thread Murphy, Sandra
There will only be one co-chair physically present at the interim meeting 6 Jun. The in-person chair will be busy trying to keep the meeting flowing. So the in-person chair will not be responsible for jabbering, minutes taking or webex session hosting. Some generous volunteers have offered to

[sidr] meeting materials

2012-06-05 Thread Murphy, Sandra
The meeting materials will be available at: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/interim/2012/06/06/sidr/proceedings.html --Sandy, speaking as wg co-chair ___ sidr mailing list sidr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sidr

[sidr] audio recording for 06 Jun 2012 interim meetings

2012-06-11 Thread Murphy, Sandra
For those interested in the outcome of the 06 Jun interim meeting last week, the audio recording is available at: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/lsr.php?AT=pbSP=ECrID=7070277rKey=92b809cece287683 You can playback online or download for local playback - by installing the webex recording player.

Re: [sidr] draft-ymbk-rpki-grandparenting-00.txt

2012-06-12 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Speaking as a regular ol' wg member: wrt: So if both AS 'C' and AS 'G' originate the 10.42.2.0/23 route and both ROAs may exist, then you have a MOAS event. The architecture specifically allows there to be multiple ROAs for a single prefix. That was a deliberate choice from long, long ago.

Re: [sidr] WGLC for draft-ietf-sidr-pfx-validate-06

2012-06-12 Thread Murphy, Sandra
the AS4_PATH attribute, but dropping the attribute is expected and just fine. --Sandy, speaking as regular ol' wg member From: George, Wes [wesley.geo...@twcable.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 8:22 AM To: Murphy, Sandra; sidr@ietf.org Subject: RE: WGLC

Re: [sidr] WGLC for draft-ietf-sidr-pfx-validate-06

2012-06-26 Thread Murphy, Sandra
: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:42 PM To: Murphy, Sandra Cc: George, Wes; sidr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [sidr] WGLC for draft-ietf-sidr-pfx-validate-06 True in the context of bgpsec. But this is just pfx-validate. Nonetheless, I am OK with leaving it as an exercise for the implementor -- as Hannes notes

[sidr] upcoming important dates for IETF 84

2012-06-27 Thread Murphy, Sandra
Below are some dates to keep in mind for the upcoming meeting. The crucial dates for draft submission are: -00 version drafts must be submitted by 2012-07-09 17:00 PT (UTC -7) later version drafts must be submitted by 2012-07-16 17:00 PT (UTC -7) Note that if you are submitting a draft accepted

[sidr] a message burst coming

2012-06-28 Thread Murphy, Sandra
The sidr chairs made some decisions on a bunch of drafts today. I happen to have easiest net connectivity, so I'm the one selected to send the messages. So expect to see a flurry of messages from me, speaking for the triumverate sidr-chairs. --Sandy, speaking as wg co-chair

Re: [sidr] WG Adoption call for draft-rogaglia-sidr-bgpsec-rollover-01.txt

2012-06-28 Thread Murphy, Sandra
this work. This is your last chance, so speak up. --Sandy, speaking as wg co-chair From: sidr-boun...@ietf.org [sidr-boun...@ietf.org] on behalf of Murphy, Sandra [sandra.mur...@sparta.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 5:27 PM To: Roque Gagliano (rogaglia); sidr

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