Re: [SIESTA-L] partial band structure

2015-04-27 Por tôpico Suman Chowdhury
Thanks a lot Prof Artacho..I will now work very hard to learn the fatband..

On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Emilio Artacho ea...@cam.ac.uk wrote:

 fatbands gives you that kind of information

 E

 On Apr 27, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Suman Chowdhury wrote:

 My question is, is it possible to identify the bands arising out due to
 transition of electron from a particular orbital..Suppose I want to
 identify the bands due to the pi bonded p_z orbital of graphene. Is it
 possible in siesta..

 On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Emilio Artacho ea...@cam.ac.uk wrote:

 Not sure what you mean, maybe you are talking about the
 utility fatbands in the Util directory?

 Emilio

 On Apr 27, 2015, at 8:25 AM, Suman Chowdhury wrote:

 I am not talking about partial DOS...I want to know about partial band
 structure...I know how to calculate partial DOS by using fmpdos.f...

 On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:42 AM, fthe...@iesl.forth.gr wrote:

 Yes. It is easy to be done, thanks to Andrei Postnikov's utility
 fmpdos.f.
 You have to use as input the .PDOS output file of SIESTA and another
 file where you include details on which partial DOS you want (atom and/or
 orbitals).


  Dear User
  As we all know partial density of states can be calculated easily by
 using
  SIESTA...But in many papers I have seen partial band structure that is
  which band is due to which orbital...is there any way to do that in
  SIESTA..
 
  --
 
 
 
  *Senior research fellow Dept. of Physics, University of Calcutta
 Kolkata-
  79, West Bengal, India.*
  * Ph no-+91-9830512232*
 


 *
 Dr Zacharias G. Fthenakis
 Research Associate
 Institute of Electronic Structure and Laser (I.E.S.L.)
 Foundation for Research and Technology Hellas (FO.R.T.H.)
 Vassilika Vouton P.O. Box 1527 71003 Heraklion Crete Greece
 Phone +30 2810 391824
 FAX   +30 2810 391305
 webpage: http://esperia.iesl.forth.gr/~fthenak
 **




 --



 *Senior research fellow Dept. of Physics, University of Calcutta Kolkata-
 79, West Bengal, India.*
 * Ph no-+91-9830512232*


 --
 Emilio Artacho

 CIC nanoGUNE Consolider, and Cavendish Laboratory, University of Cambridge
 Tolosa Hiribidea 76, E-20018 Donostia - San Sebastián, Spain,
 e.arta...@nanogune.eu, +34 943 574039, http://theory.nanogune.eu




 --



 *Senior research fellow Dept. of Physics, University of Calcutta Kolkata-
 79, West Bengal, India.*
 * Ph no-+91-9830512232*


 --
 Emilio Artacho

 CIC nanoGUNE Consolider, and Cavendish Laboratory, University of Cambridge
 Tolosa Hiribidea 76, E-20018 Donostia - San Sebastián, Spain,
 e.arta...@nanogune.eu, +34 943 574039, http://theory.nanogune.eu




-- 



*Senior research fellow Dept. of Physics, University of Calcutta Kolkata-
79, West Bengal, India.*
* Ph no-+91-9830512232*


Re: [SIESTA-L] partial band structure

2015-04-27 Por tôpico fthenak
Yes. It is easy to be done, thanks to Andrei Postnikov's utility fmpdos.f.
You have to use as input the .PDOS output file of SIESTA and another
file where you include details on which partial DOS you want (atom and/or
orbitals).


 Dear User
 As we all know partial density of states can be calculated easily by using
 SIESTA...But in many papers I have seen partial band structure that is
 which band is due to which orbital...is there any way to do that in
 SIESTA..

 --



 *Senior research fellow Dept. of Physics, University of Calcutta Kolkata-
 79, West Bengal, India.*
 * Ph no-+91-9830512232*



*
Dr Zacharias G. Fthenakis
Research Associate
Institute of Electronic Structure and Laser (I.E.S.L.)
Foundation for Research and Technology Hellas (FO.R.T.H.)
Vassilika Vouton P.O. Box 1527 71003 Heraklion Crete Greece
Phone +30 2810 391824
FAX   +30 2810 391305
webpage: http://esperia.iesl.forth.gr/~fthenak
**



[SIESTA-L] Drude term

2015-04-27 Por tôpico Eliya Asmani
Dear user

I want to calculate real and imaginary parts of the permittivity for some
metals
(for cluster not bulk).
How can I include Drude term for intarband transition of the permittivity?

In the *.EPSIMG, (was generated after optical calculation) the value of W_p
is written 0.000. I think this value should be non-zero, to include Drude
term.
How can I determinate W_p?

Regards,
Eliya


Re: [SIESTA-L] Drude term

2015-04-27 Por tôpico Guangping Zhang

OK. Now I understand.
Thank you.

Best regards,

/Guangping

On 04/27/2015 07:02 PM, Pu ZHANG wrote:
I'm not familiar with SIESTA, but in case some electrons might 
contribute to the interested energy range, however they are too 
expensive to consider explicitly, like the d wlwcteons of noble 
metals. Phenomenological description is an approximation. This is what 
I meant.


On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Guangping Zhang zgp...@126.com 
mailto:zgp...@126.com wrote:


Dear Pu Zhang,

As far as I know, the Drude term in SIESTA is omega_p*omega_p, and
the Drude contribution to the dielectric function is added by the
simple Drude model,

-omega_p*omega_p/omega/(omega+i*gamma)

where i is the imaginary unit. Therefore, Drude term used in
SIESTA is to account for the effect of the free electrons.
However, for cluster in SIESTA, all the transitions from occupied
to unoccupied orbitals are taken into account in the interested
energy range. I think this would include the 'free electrons' and
the 'bound electrons' in the energy range in the current framework
in SIESTA.

So, what do you mean by a contribution from deeper transitions,
could you please give more information on this?


/Guangping


On 04/27/2015 05:11 PM, Pu ZHANG wrote:

I suppose the so-called intraband contribution is just the part
of the permittivity which is not described by the simple Drude
model. Then it doesn't necessarily apply to bulk material. For
cluster it can also get contribution from deeper transitions. I
guess it's possible to implement this somehow...


Best regards, Pu Zhang

--
Faculty at School of Physics, Huazhong University of Science and
Technology
Room 819 (N.), Yifu Science and Technology Building
1037 Luoyu Road, Wuhan, China
E-mail: puzhang0...@hust.edu.cn
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pu...@fotonik.dtu.dk');
Homepage: www.researchgate.net/profile/Pu_Zhang4
http://www.researchgate.net/profile/Pu_Zhang4
Phone: +86 18871860394

On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Guangping Zhang zgp...@126.com
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','zgp...@126.com'); wrote:

Dear Eliya,

For a cluster, I think there is no energy bands, therefore no
intraband transition.

/Guangping

On 2015/4/27 14:43, Eliya Asmani wrote:

Dear Guangping

Thanks for the your quick reply.
As I know the intarband transition (Drude term) is very
important for my case.
I'm so sorry! What is your mean about  Drude term is only
for a system with at least one dimension periodical you
mean the Siesta code can't calculate for cluster system or
Drude term is not important in cluster system?

Eliya

On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Guangping Zhang
zgp...@126.com
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','zgp...@126.com'); wrote:

Dear Eliya,

I think you do not need to include the Durde term for a
cluster calculation. The Drude term is only available
for a system with at least one dimension periodical.

Kind regards,

/Guangping

On 04/27/2015 12:44 PM, Eliya Asmani wrote:

Dear user

I want to calculate real and imaginary parts of the
permittivity for some metals
(for cluster not bulk).
How can I include Drude term for intarband transition
of the permittivity?

In the *.EPSIMG, (was generated after optical
calculation) the value of W_p is written 0.000. I think
this value should be non-zero, to include Drude term.
How can I determinate W_p?

Regards,
Eliya










--


Best regards, Pu Zhang

--
Faculty at School of Physics, Huazhong University of Science and 
Technology

Room 819 (N.), Yifu Science and Technology Building
1037 Luoyu Road, Wuhan, China
E-mail: puzhang0...@hust.edu.cn mailto:pu...@fotonik.dtu.dk
Homepage: www.researchgate.net/profile/Pu_Zhang4 
http://www.researchgate.net/profile/Pu_Zhang4

Phone: +86 18871860394





Re: [SIESTA-L] partial band structure

2015-04-27 Por tôpico Suman Chowdhury
I am not talking about partial DOS...I want to know about partial band
structure...I know how to calculate partial DOS by using fmpdos.f...

On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:42 AM, fthe...@iesl.forth.gr wrote:

 Yes. It is easy to be done, thanks to Andrei Postnikov's utility fmpdos.f.
 You have to use as input the .PDOS output file of SIESTA and another
 file where you include details on which partial DOS you want (atom and/or
 orbitals).


  Dear User
  As we all know partial density of states can be calculated easily by
 using
  SIESTA...But in many papers I have seen partial band structure that is
  which band is due to which orbital...is there any way to do that in
  SIESTA..
 
  --
 
 
 
  *Senior research fellow Dept. of Physics, University of Calcutta Kolkata-
  79, West Bengal, India.*
  * Ph no-+91-9830512232*
 


 *
 Dr Zacharias G. Fthenakis
 Research Associate
 Institute of Electronic Structure and Laser (I.E.S.L.)
 Foundation for Research and Technology Hellas (FO.R.T.H.)
 Vassilika Vouton P.O. Box 1527 71003 Heraklion Crete Greece
 Phone +30 2810 391824
 FAX   +30 2810 391305
 webpage: http://esperia.iesl.forth.gr/~fthenak
 **




-- 



*Senior research fellow Dept. of Physics, University of Calcutta Kolkata-
79, West Bengal, India.*
* Ph no-+91-9830512232*


Re: [SIESTA-L] partial band structure

2015-04-27 Por tôpico Emilio Artacho
fatbands gives you that kind of information

E

On Apr 27, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Suman Chowdhury wrote:

 My question is, is it possible to identify the bands arising out due to 
 transition of electron from a particular orbital..Suppose I want to identify 
 the bands due to the pi bonded p_z orbital of graphene. Is it possible in 
 siesta.. 
 
 On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Emilio Artacho ea...@cam.ac.uk wrote:
 Not sure what you mean, maybe you are talking about the 
 utility fatbands in the Util directory?
 
 Emilio
 
 On Apr 27, 2015, at 8:25 AM, Suman Chowdhury wrote:
 
 I am not talking about partial DOS...I want to know about partial band 
 structure...I know how to calculate partial DOS by using fmpdos.f...
 
 On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:42 AM, fthe...@iesl.forth.gr wrote:
 Yes. It is easy to be done, thanks to Andrei Postnikov's utility fmpdos.f.
 You have to use as input the .PDOS output file of SIESTA and another
 file where you include details on which partial DOS you want (atom and/or
 orbitals).
 
 
  Dear User
  As we all know partial density of states can be calculated easily by using
  SIESTA...But in many papers I have seen partial band structure that is
  which band is due to which orbital...is there any way to do that in
  SIESTA..
 
  --
 
 
 
  *Senior research fellow Dept. of Physics, University of Calcutta Kolkata-
  79, West Bengal, India.*
  * Ph no-+91-9830512232*
 
 
 
 *
 Dr Zacharias G. Fthenakis
 Research Associate
 Institute of Electronic Structure and Laser (I.E.S.L.)
 Foundation for Research and Technology Hellas (FO.R.T.H.)
 Vassilika Vouton P.O. Box 1527 71003 Heraklion Crete Greece
 Phone +30 2810 391824
 FAX   +30 2810 391305
 webpage: http://esperia.iesl.forth.gr/~fthenak
 **
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Senior research fellow
  Dept. of Physics,
  University of Calcutta
  Kolkata- 79, West Bengal, India.
  Ph no-+91-9830512232
 
 
 --
 Emilio Artacho
 
 CIC nanoGUNE Consolider, and Cavendish Laboratory, University of Cambridge
 Tolosa Hiribidea 76, E-20018 Donostia - San Sebastián, Spain,
 e.arta...@nanogune.eu, +34 943 574039, http://theory.nanogune.eu
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Senior research fellow
  Dept. of Physics,
  University of Calcutta
  Kolkata- 79, West Bengal, India.
  Ph no-+91-9830512232
 

--
Emilio Artacho

CIC nanoGUNE Consolider, and Cavendish Laboratory, University of Cambridge
Tolosa Hiribidea 76, E-20018 Donostia - San Sebastián, Spain,
e.arta...@nanogune.eu, +34 943 574039, http://theory.nanogune.eu



Re: [SIESTA-L] partial band structure

2015-04-27 Por tôpico Emilio Artacho
Not sure what you mean, maybe you are talking about the 
utility fatbands in the Util directory?

Emilio

On Apr 27, 2015, at 8:25 AM, Suman Chowdhury wrote:

 I am not talking about partial DOS...I want to know about partial band 
 structure...I know how to calculate partial DOS by using fmpdos.f...
 
 On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:42 AM, fthe...@iesl.forth.gr wrote:
 Yes. It is easy to be done, thanks to Andrei Postnikov's utility fmpdos.f.
 You have to use as input the .PDOS output file of SIESTA and another
 file where you include details on which partial DOS you want (atom and/or
 orbitals).
 
 
  Dear User
  As we all know partial density of states can be calculated easily by using
  SIESTA...But in many papers I have seen partial band structure that is
  which band is due to which orbital...is there any way to do that in
  SIESTA..
 
  --
 
 
 
  *Senior research fellow Dept. of Physics, University of Calcutta Kolkata-
  79, West Bengal, India.*
  * Ph no-+91-9830512232*
 
 
 
 *
 Dr Zacharias G. Fthenakis
 Research Associate
 Institute of Electronic Structure and Laser (I.E.S.L.)
 Foundation for Research and Technology Hellas (FO.R.T.H.)
 Vassilika Vouton P.O. Box 1527 71003 Heraklion Crete Greece
 Phone +30 2810 391824
 FAX   +30 2810 391305
 webpage: http://esperia.iesl.forth.gr/~fthenak
 **
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Senior research fellow
  Dept. of Physics,
  University of Calcutta
  Kolkata- 79, West Bengal, India.
  Ph no-+91-9830512232
 

--
Emilio Artacho

CIC nanoGUNE Consolider, and Cavendish Laboratory, University of Cambridge
Tolosa Hiribidea 76, E-20018 Donostia - San Sebastián, Spain,
e.arta...@nanogune.eu, +34 943 574039, http://theory.nanogune.eu



Re: [SIESTA-L] partial band structure

2015-04-27 Por tôpico Suman Chowdhury
My question is, is it possible to identify the bands arising out due to
transition of electron from a particular orbital..Suppose I want to
identify the bands due to the pi bonded p_z orbital of graphene. Is it
possible in siesta..

On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Emilio Artacho ea...@cam.ac.uk wrote:

 Not sure what you mean, maybe you are talking about the
 utility fatbands in the Util directory?

 Emilio

 On Apr 27, 2015, at 8:25 AM, Suman Chowdhury wrote:

 I am not talking about partial DOS...I want to know about partial band
 structure...I know how to calculate partial DOS by using fmpdos.f...

 On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:42 AM, fthe...@iesl.forth.gr wrote:

 Yes. It is easy to be done, thanks to Andrei Postnikov's utility fmpdos.f.
 You have to use as input the .PDOS output file of SIESTA and another
 file where you include details on which partial DOS you want (atom and/or
 orbitals).


  Dear User
  As we all know partial density of states can be calculated easily by
 using
  SIESTA...But in many papers I have seen partial band structure that is
  which band is due to which orbital...is there any way to do that in
  SIESTA..
 
  --
 
 
 
  *Senior research fellow Dept. of Physics, University of Calcutta
 Kolkata-
  79, West Bengal, India.*
  * Ph no-+91-9830512232*
 


 *
 Dr Zacharias G. Fthenakis
 Research Associate
 Institute of Electronic Structure and Laser (I.E.S.L.)
 Foundation for Research and Technology Hellas (FO.R.T.H.)
 Vassilika Vouton P.O. Box 1527 71003 Heraklion Crete Greece
 Phone +30 2810 391824
 FAX   +30 2810 391305
 webpage: http://esperia.iesl.forth.gr/~fthenak
 **




 --



 *Senior research fellow Dept. of Physics, University of Calcutta Kolkata-
 79, West Bengal, India.*
 * Ph no-+91-9830512232*


 --
 Emilio Artacho

 CIC nanoGUNE Consolider, and Cavendish Laboratory, University of Cambridge
 Tolosa Hiribidea 76, E-20018 Donostia - San Sebastián, Spain,
 e.arta...@nanogune.eu, +34 943 574039, http://theory.nanogune.eu




-- 



*Senior research fellow Dept. of Physics, University of Calcutta Kolkata-
79, West Bengal, India.*
* Ph no-+91-9830512232*


Re: [SIESTA-L] Drude term

2015-04-27 Por tôpico Eliya Asmani
Dear Guangping

Thanks for the your quick reply.
As I know the intarband transition (Drude term) is very important for my
case.
I'm so sorry! What is your mean about  Drude term is only for a system
with at least one dimension periodical you mean the Siesta code can't
calculate for cluster system or Drude term is not important in cluster
system?

Eliya

On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Guangping Zhang zgp...@126.com wrote:

  Dear Eliya,

 I think you do not need to include the Durde term for a cluster
 calculation. The Drude term is only available for a system with at least
 one dimension periodical.

 Kind regards,

 /Guangping

  On 04/27/2015 12:44 PM, Eliya Asmani wrote:

Dear user

  I want to calculate real and imaginary parts of the permittivity for
 some metals
  (for cluster not bulk).
  How can I include Drude term for intarband transition of the
 permittivity?

  In the *.EPSIMG, (was generated after optical calculation) the value of
 W_p is written 0.000. I think this value should be non-zero, to include
 Drude term.
  How can I determinate W_p?

  Regards,
  Eliya





Re: [SIESTA-L] Drude term

2015-04-27 Por tôpico Guangping Zhang

Dear Eliya,

I think you do not need to include the Durde term for a cluster 
calculation. The Drude term is only available for a system with at least 
one dimension periodical.


Kind regards,

/Guangping

On 04/27/2015 12:44 PM, Eliya Asmani wrote:

Dear user

I want to calculate real and imaginary parts of the permittivity for 
some metals

(for cluster not bulk).
How can I include Drude term for intarband transition of the 
permittivity?


In the *.EPSIMG, (was generated after optical calculation) the value 
of W_p is written 0.000. I think this value should be non-zero, to 
include Drude term.

How can I determinate W_p?

Regards,
Eliya




Re: [SIESTA-L] Drude term

2015-04-27 Por tôpico Guangping Zhang

Dear Eliya,

For a cluster, I think there is no energy bands, therefore no intraband 
transition.


/Guangping

On 2015/4/27 14:43, Eliya Asmani wrote:

Dear Guangping

Thanks for the your quick reply.
As I know the intarband transition (Drude term) is very important for 
my case.
I'm so sorry! What is your mean about  Drude term is only for a 
system with at least one dimension periodical you mean the Siesta 
code can't calculate for cluster system or Drude term is not important 
in cluster system?


Eliya

On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Guangping Zhang zgp...@126.com 
mailto:zgp...@126.com wrote:


Dear Eliya,

I think you do not need to include the Durde term for a cluster
calculation. The Drude term is only available for a system with at
least one dimension periodical.

Kind regards,

/Guangping

On 04/27/2015 12:44 PM, Eliya Asmani wrote:

Dear user

I want to calculate real and imaginary parts of the permittivity
for some metals
(for cluster not bulk).
How can I include Drude term for intarband transition of the
permittivity?

In the *.EPSIMG, (was generated after optical calculation) the
value of W_p is written 0.000. I think this value should be
non-zero, to include Drude term.
How can I determinate W_p?

Regards,
Eliya







Re: [SIESTA-L] Drude term

2015-04-27 Por tôpico Pu ZHANG
I suppose the so-called intraband contribution is just the part of the
permittivity which is not described by the simple Drude model. Then it
doesn't necessarily apply to bulk material. For cluster it can also get
contribution from deeper transitions. I guess it's possible to implement
this somehow...

Best regards, Pu Zhang
--
Faculty at School of Physics, Huazhong University of Science and Technology
Room 819 (N.), Yifu Science and Technology Building
1037 Luoyu Road, Wuhan, China
E-mail: puzhang0...@hust.edu.cn pu...@fotonik.dtu.dk
Homepage: www.researchgate.net/profile/Pu_Zhang4
Phone: +86 18871860394

On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Guangping Zhang zgp...@126.com wrote:

  Dear Eliya,

 For a cluster, I think there is no energy bands, therefore no intraband
 transition.

 /Guangping

 On 2015/4/27 14:43, Eliya Asmani wrote:

  Dear Guangping

 Thanks for the your quick reply.
 As I know the intarband transition (Drude term) is very important for my
 case.
  I'm so sorry! What is your mean about  Drude term is only for a system
 with at least one dimension periodical you mean the Siesta code can't
 calculate for cluster system or Drude term is not important in cluster
 system?

  Eliya

 On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Guangping Zhang zgp...@126.com wrote:

  Dear Eliya,

 I think you do not need to include the Durde term for a cluster
 calculation. The Drude term is only available for a system with at least
 one dimension periodical.

 Kind regards,

 /Guangping

   On 04/27/2015 12:44 PM, Eliya Asmani wrote:

Dear user

  I want to calculate real and imaginary parts of the permittivity for
 some metals
  (for cluster not bulk).
  How can I include Drude term for intarband transition of the
 permittivity?

  In the *.EPSIMG, (was generated after optical calculation) the value of
 W_p is written 0.000. I think this value should be non-zero, to include
 Drude term.
  How can I determinate W_p?

  Regards,
  Eliya







Re: [SIESTA-L] Drude term

2015-04-27 Por tôpico Guangping Zhang

Dear Pu Zhang,

As far as I know, the Drude term in SIESTA is omega_p*omega_p, and the 
Drude contribution to the dielectric function is added by the simple 
Drude model,


-omega_p*omega_p/omega/(omega+i*gamma)

where i is the imaginary unit. Therefore, Drude term used in SIESTA is 
to account for the effect of the free electrons. However, for cluster in 
SIESTA, all the transitions from occupied to unoccupied orbitals are 
taken into account in the interested energy range. I think this would 
include the 'free electrons' and the 'bound electrons' in the energy 
range in the current framework in SIESTA.


So, what do you mean by a contribution from deeper transitions, could 
you please give more information on this?



/Guangping


On 04/27/2015 05:11 PM, Pu ZHANG wrote:
I suppose the so-called intraband contribution is just the part of the 
permittivity which is not described by the simple Drude model. Then it 
doesn't necessarily apply to bulk material. For cluster it can also 
get contribution from deeper transitions. I guess it's possible to 
implement this somehow...



Best regards, Pu Zhang

--
Faculty at School of Physics, Huazhong University of Science and 
Technology

Room 819 (N.), Yifu Science and Technology Building
1037 Luoyu Road, Wuhan, China
E-mail: puzhang0...@hust.edu.cn mailto:pu...@fotonik.dtu.dk
Homepage: www.researchgate.net/profile/Pu_Zhang4 
http://www.researchgate.net/profile/Pu_Zhang4

Phone: +86 18871860394

On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Guangping Zhang zgp...@126.com 
mailto:zgp...@126.com wrote:


Dear Eliya,

For a cluster, I think there is no energy bands, therefore no
intraband transition.

/Guangping

On 2015/4/27 14:43, Eliya Asmani wrote:

Dear Guangping

Thanks for the your quick reply.
As I know the intarband transition (Drude term) is very important
for my case.
I'm so sorry! What is your mean about  Drude term is only for a
system with at least one dimension periodical you mean the
Siesta code can't calculate for cluster system or Drude term is
not important in cluster system?

Eliya

On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Guangping Zhang zgp...@126.com
mailto:zgp...@126.com wrote:

Dear Eliya,

I think you do not need to include the Durde term for a
cluster calculation. The Drude term is only available for a
system with at least one dimension periodical.

Kind regards,

/Guangping

On 04/27/2015 12:44 PM, Eliya Asmani wrote:

Dear user

I want to calculate real and imaginary parts of the
permittivity for some metals
(for cluster not bulk).
How can I include Drude term for intarband transition of the
permittivity?

In the *.EPSIMG, (was generated after optical calculation)
the value of W_p is written 0.000. I think this value should
be non-zero, to include Drude term.
How can I determinate W_p?

Regards,
Eliya










Re: [SIESTA-L] Drude term

2015-04-27 Por tôpico Pu ZHANG
I'm not familiar with SIESTA, but in case some electrons might contribute
to the interested energy range, however they are too expensive to consider
explicitly, like the d wlwcteons of noble metals. Phenomenological
description is an approximation. This is what I meant.

On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Guangping Zhang zgp...@126.com wrote:

  Dear Pu Zhang,

 As far as I know, the Drude term in SIESTA is omega_p*omega_p, and the
 Drude contribution to the dielectric function is added by the simple Drude
 model,

 -omega_p*omega_p/omega/(omega+i*gamma)

 where i is the imaginary unit. Therefore, Drude term used in SIESTA is to
 account for the effect of the free electrons. However, for cluster in
 SIESTA, all the transitions from occupied to unoccupied orbitals are taken
 into account in the interested energy range. I think this would include the
 'free electrons' and the 'bound electrons' in the energy range in the
 current framework in SIESTA.

 So, what do you mean by a contribution from deeper transitions, could
 you please give more information on this?


 /Guangping


 On 04/27/2015 05:11 PM, Pu ZHANG wrote:

 I suppose the so-called intraband contribution is just the part of the
 permittivity which is not described by the simple Drude model. Then it
 doesn't necessarily apply to bulk material. For cluster it can also get
 contribution from deeper transitions. I guess it's possible to implement
 this somehow...

Best regards, Pu Zhang
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 Faculty at School of Physics, Huazhong University of Science and
 Technology
 Room 819 (N.), Yifu Science and Technology Building
  1037 Luoyu Road, Wuhan, China
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 On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Guangping Zhang zgp...@126.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','zgp...@126.com'); wrote:

  Dear Eliya,

 For a cluster, I think there is no energy bands, therefore no intraband
 transition.

 /Guangping

   On 2015/4/27 14:43, Eliya Asmani wrote:

  Dear Guangping

 Thanks for the your quick reply.
 As I know the intarband transition (Drude term) is very important for my
 case.
  I'm so sorry! What is your mean about  Drude term is only for a system
 with at least one dimension periodical you mean the Siesta code can't
 calculate for cluster system or Drude term is not important in cluster
 system?

  Eliya

 On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Guangping Zhang zgp...@126.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','zgp...@126.com'); wrote:

  Dear Eliya,

 I think you do not need to include the Durde term for a cluster
 calculation. The Drude term is only available for a system with at least
 one dimension periodical.

 Kind regards,

 /Guangping

   On 04/27/2015 12:44 PM, Eliya Asmani wrote:

Dear user

  I want to calculate real and imaginary parts of the permittivity for
 some metals
  (for cluster not bulk).
  How can I include Drude term for intarband transition of the
 permittivity?

  In the *.EPSIMG, (was generated after optical calculation) the value
 of W_p is written 0.000. I think this value should be non-zero, to include
 Drude term.
  How can I determinate W_p?

  Regards,
  Eliya








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Room 819 (N.), Yifu Science and Technology Building
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[SIESTA-L] how to compile constr.f file for my system

2015-04-27 Por tôpico Nadia Salami
Dear users

I want to relax part of my system using constr.f file.

At first step, I don’t know how to compile constr.f file for my system.

At next step, is the compiled constr.f file included in my work directory?

Could you help me please?

Thanks in advance,

Regards.

Nadia Salami


Re: [SIESTA-L] how to compile constr.f file for my system

2015-04-27 Por tôpico Roberto Pasianot

Hi,

1) Look for constr.f into */Src/include
2) change/edit according to your needs, and copy it to */Src
3) recompile Siesta

Regards,

Roberto

On 04/27/2015 01:40 PM, Nadia Salami wrote:

Dear users

I want to relax part of my system using constr.f file.

At first step, I don’t know how to compile constr.f file for my system.

At next step, is the compiled constr.f file included in my work directory?

Could you help me please?

Thanks in advance,

Regards.

Nadia Salami





Re: [SIESTA-L] how to compile constr.f file for my system

2015-04-27 Por tôpico Nick Papior Andersen
You have formatted the fortran code erroneously:
1) Correct your mistakes in the fortran code (look up how fortran files
should be formatted)
2) Change the fortran format to fortran 90, this is easier as there are
less restrictions on the formatting, if you do this, change the file ending
to .f90 instead of .f, and be sure to only have Src/constr.f90 and not
Src/constr.f in the directory.

2015-04-28 5:31 GMT+02:00 Nadia Salami nadiasala...@gmail.com:

 Dear users,

  In order to compile constr.f for my system, I follow Roberto's guidance.
 So,  I act as bellow:
 1. I have edited constr.f file which is attached.
 2. I copy it to */Src

 3. when I type make in the Src directory to recompile Siesta, I have faced
 to the following error:

 mpif90 -c -g -O2   `FoX/FoX-config --fcflags`   ~/siesta-3.2/Src/constr.f
 ~/siesta-3.2/Src/constr.f:27.

   double precision amass(na), cell(3,3), fa(3,na),

 Error: Invalid character in name at (1)
 ~/siesta-3.2/Src/constr.f:28.

   .stress(3,3), xa(3,na)
1
 Error: Invalid character in name at (1)
 ~/siesta-3.2/Src/constr.f:34.

 +fa(3,8)+fa(3,9)+fa(3,10)+fa(
 1
 Error: Invalid character in name at (1)
 ~/siesta-3.2/Src/constr.f:35.

 +fa(3,15)+fa(3,16)+fa(3,17)+
 1
 Error: Invalid character in name at (1)
 ~/siesta-3.2/Src/constr.f:36.

 +fa(3,21)+fa(3,22)+fa(3,23)+
 1
 Error: Invalid character in name at (1)
 ~/siesta-3.2/Src/constr.f:37.

 +fa(3,27)+fa(3,28)+fa(3,29)+
 1
 Error: Invalid character in name at (1)
 ~/siesta-3.2/Src/constr.f:40.

 +amass(7)+amass(8)+amass(9)+
 1
 Error: Invalid character in name at (1)
 ~/siesta-3.2/Src/constr.f:41.

 +amass(13)+amass(14)+amass(15)
 1
 Error: Invalid character in name at (1)
 ~/siesta-3.2/Src/constr.f:42.

 +amass(19)+amass(20)+amass(21)
 1
 Error: Invalid character in name at (1)
 ~/siesta-3.2/Src/constr.f:43.

 +amass(25)+amass(26)+amass(27)
 1
 Error: Invalid character in name at (1)
 ~/siesta-3.2/Src/constr.f:45.

 fa(3,1) = fz * amass(1)/tmass
   1
 Error: 'fa' at (1) is not a variable
 ~/siesta-3.2/Src/constr.f:46.

fa(3,2) = fz * amass(2)/tmass
  1
 Error: 'fa' at (1) is not a variable
 ~/siesta-3.2/Src/constr.f:47.

fa(3,3) = fz * amass(3)/tmass
  1
 Error: 'fa' at (1) is not a variable
 ~/siesta-3.2/Src/constr.f:48.

fa(3,4) = fz * amass(4)/tmass
  1
 Error: 'fa' at (1) is not a variable
 ~/siesta-3.2/Src/constr.f:49.

fa(3,5) = fz * amass(5)/tmass
  1
 Error: 'fa' at (1) is not a variable
 ~/siesta-3.2/Src/constr.f:50.

fa(3,6) = fz * amass(6)/tmass
  1
 Error: 'fa' at (1) is not a variable
 ~/siesta-3.2/Src/constr.f:51.

fa(3,7) = fz * amass(7)/tmass
  1
 Error: 'fa' at (1) is not a variable
 ~/siesta-3.2/Src/constr.f:52.

fa(3,8) = fz * amass(8)/tmass
  1
 Error: 'fa' at (1) is not a variable
 ~/siesta-3.2/Src/constr.f:53.

fa(3,9) = fz * amass(9)/tmass
  1
 Error: 'fa' at (1) is not a variable
 ~/siesta-3.2/Src/constr.f:54.

fa(3,10) = fz * amass(10)/tmass
  1
 Error: 'fa' at (1) is not a variable
 ~/siesta-3.2/Src/constr.f:55.

fa(3,11) = fz * amass(11)/tmass
  1
 Error: 'fa' at (1) is not a variable
 ~/siesta-3.2/Src/constr.f:56.

fa(3,12) = fz * amass(12)/tmass
  1
 Error: 'fa' at (1) is not a variable
 ~/siesta-3.2/Src/constr.f:57.

fa(3,13) = fz * amass(13)/tmass
  1
 Error: 'fa' at (1) is not a variable
 ~/siesta-3.2/Src/constr.f:58.

fa(3,14) = fz * amass(14)/tmass
  1
 Error: 'fa' at (1) is not a variable
 ~/siesta-3.2/Src/constr.f:59.

fa(3,15) = fz * amass(15)/tmass
  1
 Error: 'fa' at (1) is not a variable
 Fatal Error: Error count reached limit of 25.
 make: *** [constr.o] Error 1



  Also, I have attached arch.make file.

  I don't now how to get rid of it. Could you guide me to solve the error,
 please?

 Thanks in advance,

 Regards,

 Nadia Salami




-- 
Kind regards Nick


[SIESTA-L] How can calculate electric transitions

2015-04-27 Por tôpico Eliya Asmani
Dear all

For calculation of dielectric function, it needs electric transitions
(i|z|f) that |i and |f are initial and final states.
In the Siesta code, imaginary and real part of dielectric function is
calculated but I want to know, is it possible to have matrix element like
(i|z|f) verses energy (E_i-E_f).

Best regards
Eliya