Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria

2015-02-03 Thread Aftab Siddiqui
Hi Dean, Thanks for raising the question. Could I ask that the APNIC hostmasters to comment on the following: > > Have you ever been made aware of a situation where due of the current > wording of the relevant clauses in the policy, a member or potential member > has not made a resource applicatio

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria

2015-02-03 Thread Aftab Siddiqui
Hi Randy, i liked dean's question. is there actually a problem? have folk who > really needed asns not been able to get one under current policy? > Even, I liked Dean's question and would like to see what data hostmasters have on this. > randy, thinking of reintroducing the no more policies p

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria

2015-02-03 Thread 沈志
I support this proposal. This can solve the problem in some situations that companies are able to make BGP connections with operators only when they have their own ASN. --- Jessica Shen CNNIC -原始邮件- 发件人:"Masato Yamanishi" 发送时间:2015-02-04 01:57:38 (星期三) 收件人: sig-policy@

[sig-policy] 答复: [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria

2015-02-03 Thread Shen Zhi
I support this proposal. This can solve the problem in some situations that companies are able to make BGP connections with operators only when they have their own ASN. _ Jessica Shen CNNIC 发件人: sig-policy-boun...@lists.apnic.net [mailto:sig-policy-boun...@lists.apnic.n

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal ] prop-112: On demand expansion of IPv6 address allocation size in legacy IPv6 space [SECURITY=UNCLASSIFIED]

2015-02-03 Thread Bertrand Cherrier
Fujisaki-san, As I support what Dean wrote, I will clarify my position on this point The thing is, for the time being, there is way enough IPv6 space to allow nibble boundary based allocation When this time approches an end, the we can review this prop and remove the nibble boundary Regards,

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-113: Modification in the IPv4 eligibility criteria

2015-02-03 Thread Sanjeev Gupta
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 1:56 AM, Masato Yamanishi wrote: > > The proposal "prop-113: Modification in the IPv4 eligibility criteria" > has been sent to the Policy SIG for review. Support. -- Sanjeev Gupta +65 98551208 http://sg.linkedin.com/in/ghane * sig-policy: APNIC SIG on re

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal ] prop-112: On demand expansion of IPv6 address allocation size in legacy IPv6 space [SECURITY=UNCLASSIFIED]

2015-02-03 Thread Tomohiro -INSTALLER- Fujisaki/藤崎 智宏
Hi Dean, Thank you for your comment. From: Dean Pemberton Subject: Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal ] prop-112: On demand expansion of IPv6 address allocation size in legacy IPv6 space [SECURITY=UNCLASSIFIED] Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 16:54:36 +1300 | There are a number of things that conce

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal ] prop-112: On demand expansion of IPv6 address allocation size in legacy IPv6 space [SECURITY=UNCLASSIFIED]

2015-02-03 Thread Sanjeev Gupta
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Dean Pemberton wrote: > > 1) it doesn't appear to support needs based allocation > 2) it doesn't support allocation on nibble boundaries which operators have > said repeatedly is a major issue. > I think there are two issues here, which are included in the same s

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal ] prop-112: On demand expansion of IPv6 address allocation size in legacy IPv6 space [SECURITY=UNCLASSIFIED]

2015-02-03 Thread Robert Hudson
On 4 February 2015 at 14:54, Dean Pemberton wrote: > There are a number of things that concern me about this proposal. > > 1) it doesn't appear to support needs based allocation > 2) it doesn't support allocation on nibble boundaries which operators have > said repeatedly is a major issue. > As

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal ] prop-112: On demand expansion of IPv6 address allocation size in legacy IPv6 space [SECURITY=UNCLASSIFIED]

2015-02-03 Thread Bertrand Cherrier
Hi Dean, You’ve resumed my thinking ! As long as it doesn't support allocation on nibble boundaries I will oppose it. Regards, > Le 4 févr. 2015 à 14:54, Dean Pemberton a écrit : > > There are a number of things that concern me about this proposal. > > 1) it doesn't appear to support needs

[sig-policy] Call for Nominations: APNIC Policy SIG Chair/Co-Chair

2015-02-03 Thread Adam Gosling
Dear community members Due to the resignation of the Policy SIG Chair in September 2014, APNIC is now seeking volunteers to serve as Chair and Co-Chair of the APNIC Policy SIG. The responsibilities are outlined in Sections 23, 24, and 25 of the APNIC SIG Guidelines. www.apnic.net/sig-guideli

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal ] prop-112: On demand expansion of IPv6 address allocation size in legacy IPv6 space [SECURITY=UNCLASSIFIED]

2015-02-03 Thread Dean Pemberton
There are a number of things that concern me about this proposal. 1) it doesn't appear to support needs based allocation 2) it doesn't support allocation on nibble boundaries which operators have said repeatedly is a major issue. As such I do not support this proposal in its current form. On W

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal ] prop-112: On demand expansion of IPv6 address allocation size in legacy IPv6 space [SECURITY=UNCLASSIFIED]

2015-02-03 Thread Tomohiro -INSTALLER- Fujisaki/藤崎 智宏
Hi Owen, Mike, Thank you for your comments. I'm the author of prop-112. The purpose of this policy proposal is not to align the boundary but to utilize unused space. Up to /29 is reserved for each /32 in the legacy space. | From: sig-policy-boun...@lists.apnic.net [mailto:sig-policy-boun...@l

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal ] prop-112: On demand expansion of IPv6 address allocation size in legacy IPv6 space [SECURITY=UNCLASSIFIED]

2015-02-03 Thread HENDERSON MIKE, MR
I agree with Owen Regards Mike From: sig-policy-boun...@lists.apnic.net [mailto:sig-policy-boun...@lists.apnic.net] On Behalf Of Owen DeLong Sent: Wednesday, 4 February 2015 4:05 p.m. To: Masato Yamanishi Cc: sig-policy@lists.apnic.net Subject: Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal ] prop-112

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal ] prop-112: On demand expansion of IPv6 address allocation size in legacy IPv6 space

2015-02-03 Thread Owen DeLong
I will again oppose this as written. I would much rather see policy deliver nibble-boundary based allocations. I would rather see such organizations issued new /28s than expand these /32s into /29s. Owen > On Feb 3, 2015, at 9:55 AM, Masato Yamanishi wrote: > > Dear SIG members > > The prop

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria

2015-02-03 Thread Owen DeLong
> > 3. Situation in other regions > - > > ARIN: > It is not mandatory but optional to be multi-homed in order get ASN For clarity, ARIN requires either Multihoming _OR_ a Unique Routing Policy. > 4. Proposed policy solution > --- > >

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-113: Modification in the IPv4 eligibility criteria

2015-02-03 Thread Owen DeLong
I support this policy change as written. Owen > On Feb 3, 2015, at 9:56 AM, Masato Yamanishi wrote: > > Dear SIG members > > The proposal "prop-113: Modification in the IPv4 eligibility criteria" > has been sent to the Policy SIG for review. > > It will be presented at the Open Policy Meetin

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria

2015-02-03 Thread Skeeve Stevens
I did actually think that... but Aftab rightly pointed out that there are people who still can use them, due to their own equipment or due to their upstreams. ...Skeeve *Skeeve Stevens - Senior IP Broker* *v4Now - *an eintellego Networks service ske...@v4now.com ; www.v4now.com Phone: 1300 239

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria

2015-02-03 Thread Randy Bush
i liked dean's question. is there actually a problem? have folk who really needed asns not been able to get one under current policy? randy, thinking of reintroducing the no more policies policy proposal * sig-policy: APNIC SIG on resource management policy *

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-113: Modification in the IPv4 eligibility criteria

2015-02-03 Thread Gaurab Raj Upadhaya
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2/3/15 5:56 PM, Masato Yamanishi wrote: > The comment period on the mailing list before an APNIC meeting is > an important part of the policy development process. We encourage > you to express your views on the proposal: > > - Do you support or op

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria

2015-02-03 Thread Gaurab Raj Upadhaya
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2/3/15 9:19 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > so the little hack above should be > >> - Is planning to use it within next 6 months > ^ for multi-homing make it applicable only for 32 bits ASNs. (duck) - -gaurab -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: G

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria

2015-02-03 Thread Randy Bush
> In order to make the policy guidelines simpler we are proposing to > modify the text describing the eligibility criteria for ASN > assignment by removing multi-homing requirement for the organization. > > An organization is eligible for an ASN assignment if it: > - Is planni

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria

2015-02-03 Thread Job Snijders
On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 11:57:38AM -0600, Masato Yamanishi wrote: > The comment period on the mailing list before an APNIC meeting is an > important part of the policy development process. We encourage you to > express your views on the proposal: > > - Do you support or oppose this proposal?

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria

2015-02-03 Thread Dean Pemberton
Could I ask that the APNIC hostmasters to comment on the following: Have you ever been made aware of a situation where due of the current wording of the relevant clauses in the policy, a member or potential member has not made a resource application where they would otherwise have been able to? I

Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-113: Modification in the IPv4 eligibility criteria

2015-02-03 Thread Dean Pemberton
Could I ask that the APNIC hostmasters to comment on the following: Have you ever been made aware of a situation where due of the current wording of the relevant clauses in the policy, a member or potential member has not made a resource application where they would otherwise have been able to? I

[sig-policy] [New Problem Statement] prop-115: Registration of detailed assignment

2015-02-03 Thread Masato Yamanishi
Dear SIG members A Problem Statement, identified as "prop-115: Registration of detailed assignment information in whois DB" has been sent to the Policy SIG for review and further discussion, or development by the community. It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting at APNIC 39 in Fukuoka,

[sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria

2015-02-03 Thread Masato Yamanishi
Dear SIG members The proposal "prop-114: Modification in the ASN eligibility criteria" has been sent to the Policy SIG for review. It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting at APNIC 39 in Fukuoka, Japan on Thursday, 5 March 2015. We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the

[sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-113: Modification in the IPv4 eligibility criteria

2015-02-03 Thread Masato Yamanishi
Dear SIG members The proposal "prop-113: Modification in the IPv4 eligibility criteria" has been sent to the Policy SIG for review. It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting at APNIC 39 in Fukuoka, Japan on Thursday, 5 March 2015. We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the

[sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal ] prop-112: On demand expansion of IPv6 address allocation size in legacy IPv6 space

2015-02-03 Thread Masato Yamanishi
Dear SIG members The proposal "prop-112: On demand expansion of IPv6 address allocation size in legacy IPv6 space" has been sent to the Policy SIG for review. It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting at APNIC 39 in Fukuoka, Japan on Thursday, 5 March 2015. We invite you to review and com