Re: [sig-policy] prop-134: PDP Update withdrawn by author

2020-02-25 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Paul,

Then it seems there is a misunderstanding, at least in the way I interpreted 
what it was said in the meeting.

For me it is not just editorial changes, because there is not a link, in 
between the PDP and the guidelines. It is not a matter of just "adding" that 
link now. It is a matter of having either a guidelines developed following the 
PDP (bottom-up) or updating the PDP itself (by means of the PDP as well), to 
include the points that are needed from the guidelines.

My observation in the meeting was that the guidelines were developed too long 
ago, by the SIG chairs, when we had many SIGs, not developed by the community, 
and not developed on purpose for the policy development. I think there is a 
substantial difference in between SIGs that don't develop policies and the one 
responsible for the policies.

Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
 
 

El 26/2/20 6:18, "Paul Wilson"  escribió:

Dear Jordi, and colleagues,

This policy document review is on the Secretariat workplan for 2020, and 
it has been regarded as an editorial task, on an assumption that it will
not affect the substance of any policies.

Of course, any document changes would be subject to the usual editorial 
review process, and progress will be shared with the community in time 
for APNIC 50 where it can be discussed.

There is no plan to create a taskforce, but this could certainly be 
decided at the next meeting, if the community agrees.

All the best

Paul.


Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNICd...@apnic.net
http://www.apnic.net@apnicdg

On 25 Feb 2020, at 10:16, Srinivas Chendi wrote:

> Hi Jordi,
>
> Thanks for your suggestion. Secretariat will consult with the APNIC 
> EC.
>
> Regards
> Sunny
>
> On 24/02/2020 8:53 pm, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
>> Hi Bertrand, all,
>>
>> As indicated in the meeting, the withdraw of this proposal is 
>> "temporary", in view of the commitment from the EC/secretariat to 
>> review the discrepancies in the actual PDP and SIG guidelines, 
>> assuming that this will be brought back to the community, following 
>> the bottom-up-approach, but the next meeting (maximum).
>>
>> I still thing that this should not be a task done only by the 
>> EC/secretariat but instead a Taks Force should be setup. I hope the 
>> EC can still consider setting up this TF.
>>
>> As a result of the EC review or TF review the community should be 
>> able to decide how to move on, including, if needed, new policy 
>> proposals.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jordi
>> @jordipalet
>>
>>
>>
>> El 24/2/20 3:57, "Bertrand Cherrier" 
>> > b.cherr...@micrologic.nc> escribió:
>>
>>  Dear colleagues
>>
>>  Version 2 of prop-134: PDP Update, did not reach consensus and 
>> was
>>  withdrawn by the author at the APNIC 49 Open Policy Meeting.
>>
>>  Proposal details, including the full text of the proposal, 
>> history, and
>>  links to previous versions are available at:
>>
>>  https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/proposals/prop-134/
>>
>>  We'd like to thank the author and everyone for taking the time 
>> to
>>  discuss this proposal.
>>
>>  Regards
>>  Sumon, Bertrand, Ching-Heng
>>  Policy SIG Chairs
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Re: [sig-policy] prop-134: PDP Update withdrawn by author

2020-02-25 Thread Paul Wilson
Dear Jordi, and colleagues,

This policy document review is on the Secretariat workplan for 2020, and 
it has been regarded as an editorial task, on an assumption that it will
not affect the substance of any policies.

Of course, any document changes would be subject to the usual editorial 
review process, and progress will be shared with the community in time 
for APNIC 50 where it can be discussed.

There is no plan to create a taskforce, but this could certainly be 
decided at the next meeting, if the community agrees.

All the best

Paul.


Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNICd...@apnic.net
http://www.apnic.net@apnicdg

On 25 Feb 2020, at 10:16, Srinivas Chendi wrote:

> Hi Jordi,
>
> Thanks for your suggestion. Secretariat will consult with the APNIC 
> EC.
>
> Regards
> Sunny
>
> On 24/02/2020 8:53 pm, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
>> Hi Bertrand, all,
>>
>> As indicated in the meeting, the withdraw of this proposal is 
>> "temporary", in view of the commitment from the EC/secretariat to 
>> review the discrepancies in the actual PDP and SIG guidelines, 
>> assuming that this will be brought back to the community, following 
>> the bottom-up-approach, but the next meeting (maximum).
>>
>> I still thing that this should not be a task done only by the 
>> EC/secretariat but instead a Taks Force should be setup. I hope the 
>> EC can still consider setting up this TF.
>>
>> As a result of the EC review or TF review the community should be 
>> able to decide how to move on, including, if needed, new policy 
>> proposals.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jordi
>> @jordipalet
>>
>>
>>
>> El 24/2/20 3:57, "Bertrand Cherrier" 
>> > b.cherr...@micrologic.nc> escribió:
>>
>>  Dear colleagues
>>
>>  Version 2 of prop-134: PDP Update, did not reach consensus and 
>> was
>>  withdrawn by the author at the APNIC 49 Open Policy Meeting.
>>
>>  Proposal details, including the full text of the proposal, 
>> history, and
>>  links to previous versions are available at:
>>
>>  https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/proposals/prop-134/
>>
>>  We'd like to thank the author and everyone for taking the time 
>> to
>>  discuss this proposal.
>>
>>  Regards
>>  Sumon, Bertrand, Ching-Heng
>>  Policy SIG Chairs
>>  *  sig-policy:  APNIC SIG on resource management 
>> policy   *
>>  ___
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>>  sig-policy@lists.apnic.net
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>>
>>
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Re: [sig-policy] prop-134: PDP Update withdrawn by author

2020-02-24 Thread Srinivas Chendi
Hi Jordi,

Thanks for your suggestion. Secretariat will consult with the APNIC EC.

Regards
Sunny

On 24/02/2020 8:53 pm, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
> Hi Bertrand, all,
> 
> As indicated in the meeting, the withdraw of this proposal is "temporary", in 
> view of the commitment from the EC/secretariat to review the discrepancies in 
> the actual PDP and SIG guidelines, assuming that this will be brought back to 
> the community, following the bottom-up-approach, but the next meeting 
> (maximum).
> 
> I still thing that this should not be a task done only by the EC/secretariat 
> but instead a Taks Force should be setup. I hope the EC can still consider 
> setting up this TF.
> 
> As a result of the EC review or TF review the community should be able to 
> decide how to move on, including, if needed, new policy proposals.
> 
> Regards,
> Jordi
> @jordipalet
>   
>   
> 
> El 24/2/20 3:57, "Bertrand Cherrier"  nombre de b.cherr...@micrologic.nc> escribió:
> 
>  Dear colleagues
>  
>  Version 2 of prop-134: PDP Update, did not reach consensus and was
>  withdrawn by the author at the APNIC 49 Open Policy Meeting.
>  
>  Proposal details, including the full text of the proposal, history, and
>  links to previous versions are available at:
>  
>  https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/proposals/prop-134/
>  
>  We'd like to thank the author and everyone for taking the time to
>  discuss this proposal.
>  
>  Regards
>  Sumon, Bertrand, Ching-Heng
>  Policy SIG Chairs
>  *  sig-policy:  APNIC SIG on resource management policy  
>  *
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>  sig-policy@lists.apnic.net
>  https://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy
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> 
> 
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Re: [sig-policy] prop-134: PDP Update withdrawn by author

2020-02-24 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Bertrand, all,

As indicated in the meeting, the withdraw of this proposal is "temporary", in 
view of the commitment from the EC/secretariat to review the discrepancies in 
the actual PDP and SIG guidelines, assuming that this will be brought back to 
the community, following the bottom-up-approach, but the next meeting (maximum).

I still thing that this should not be a task done only by the EC/secretariat 
but instead a Taks Force should be setup. I hope the EC can still consider 
setting up this TF.

As a result of the EC review or TF review the community should be able to 
decide how to move on, including, if needed, new policy proposals.

Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
 
 

El 24/2/20 3:57, "Bertrand Cherrier"  escribió:

Dear colleagues

Version 2 of prop-134: PDP Update, did not reach consensus and was 
withdrawn by the author at the APNIC 49 Open Policy Meeting.

Proposal details, including the full text of the proposal, history, and 
links to previous versions are available at:

https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/proposals/prop-134/

We'd like to thank the author and everyone for taking the time to 
discuss this proposal.

Regards
Sumon, Bertrand, Ching-Heng
Policy SIG Chairs
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[sig-policy] prop-134: PDP Update withdrawn by author

2020-02-23 Thread Bertrand Cherrier

Dear colleagues

Version 2 of prop-134: PDP Update, did not reach consensus and was 
withdrawn by the author at the APNIC 49 Open Policy Meeting.


Proposal details, including the full text of the proposal, history, and 
links to previous versions are available at:


https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/proposals/prop-134/

We'd like to thank the author and everyone for taking the time to 
discuss this proposal.


Regards
Sumon, Bertrand, Ching-Heng
Policy SIG Chairs
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