Re: [silk] Netiquette / Top posting (was: Re: aqvavit)

2012-02-26 Thread Sirtaj Singh Kang
On 2/25/2012 9:00 PM, Charles Haynes wrote: O RLY? YA VERILY Why does social signalling matter? One geek conceit is that only the semantic content matters, and that the message is the medium. Non-geeks find this amusingly naive verging on childish. Us geeks are (stereotypically) not very

Re: [silk] Netiquette / Top posting (was: Re: aqvavit)

2012-02-26 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Charles Haynes charles.hay...@gmail.com wrote: You mean it doesn't thread the way you like. It does do threading just not in the model you're used to. Which could be the case as I'm more familiar and comfortable with the way offline mail clients handle and

Re: [silk] Netiquette / Top posting (was: Re: aqvavit)

2012-02-26 Thread Aditya Kapil
Ok, so teach me. If I'm relplying to multiple mails in a thread, how do I reply to individual thoughts in these mails without 'copying and pasting' from the respective mails? Adit.

Re: [silk] Netiquette / Top posting (was: Re: aqvavit)

2012-02-26 Thread Thaths
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Aditya Kapil blue...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, so teach me. If I'm relplying to multiple mails in a thread, how do I reply to individual thoughts in these mails without 'copying and pasting' from the respective mails? Why not reply to each individual email you are

Re: [silk] Netiquette / Top posting (was: Re: aqvavit)

2012-02-25 Thread Pranesh Prakash
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 06:29, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote: So while you may not want to use anything else, or someone else may not want to move beyond mutt and emacs (both of which I use and top post with too..) - there's little or no connection between the client and

Re: [silk] Netiquette / Top posting (was: Re: aqvavit)

2012-02-25 Thread thewall
@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] Netiquette / Top posting (was: Re: aqvavit) Gmail on the web has its own idiosyncracies and some context sensitive advertising that occasionally tends to the bizzarre So while you may not want to use anything else, or someone else may not want to move beyond mutt

Re: [silk] Netiquette / Top posting (was: Re: aqvavit)

2012-02-25 Thread Sirtaj Singh Kang
On 2/25/2012 6:22 PM, thew...@gmail.com wrote: I'm still unsure why top posting has anything to do with Netiquette. Top posting is what a lot of people are comfortable with, and is a commonly accepted style. Its just an alternate way of doing things. Trying to say that its bad etiquette looks

Re: [silk] Netiquette / Top posting (was: Re: aqvavit)

2012-02-25 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On 25-Feb-12 7:37 PM, Sirtaj Singh Kang wrote: I'm still unsure why top posting has anything to do with Netiquette. Top posting is what a lot of people are comfortable with, and is a commonly accepted style. Its just an alternate way of doing things. Trying to say that its bad etiquette looks

Re: [silk] Netiquette / Top posting (was: Re: aqvavit)

2012-02-25 Thread Charles Haynes
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Sirtaj Singh Kang sir...@sirtaj.net wrote: It's an argument that applies equally well to SMS-speak in email. There's no loss in semantic content - O RLY? after a fashion - so why does syntax matter? Why does social signalling matter? One geek conceit is

Re: [silk] Netiquette / Top posting (was: Re: aqvavit)

2012-02-25 Thread Thaths
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 4:52 AM, thew...@gmail.com wrote: I'm still unsure why top posting has anything to do with Netiquette. Top posting is what a lot of people are comfortable with, and is a commonly accepted style. Its just an alternate way of doing things. Trying to say that its bad

Re: [silk] Netiquette / Top posting (was: Re: aqvavit)

2012-02-25 Thread Aditya Kapil
Doesn't answer the question as to why top-posting is bad netiquette / etiquette. Are IT guys just lazy scrollers? Or have they some secret knowledge of techie anachronismic inefficiencies that we mere mortals are not aware of? On Feb 25, 2012 9:38 PM, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb

Re: [silk] Netiquette / Top posting (was: Re: aqvavit)

2012-02-25 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On 25-Feb-12 9:46 PM, Aditya Kapil wrote: Doesn't answer the question as to why top-posting is bad netiquette / etiquette. Are IT guys just lazy scrollers? Or have they some secret knowledge of techie anachronismic inefficiencies that we mere mortals are not aware of? Since this has been

Re: [silk] Netiquette / Top posting (was: Re: aqvavit)

2012-02-25 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 6:29 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote: Gmail on the web has its own idiosyncracies and some context sensitive advertising that occasionally tends to the bizzarre That the Gmail WebUI doesn't allow any form of threading is still a sore point. And,

Re: [silk] Netiquette / Top posting (was: Re: aqvavit)

2012-02-25 Thread Thaths
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 8:16 AM, Aditya Kapil blue...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't answer the question as to why top-posting is bad netiquette / etiquette. Are IT guys just lazy scrollers? Or have they some secret knowledge of techie anachronismic inefficiencies that we mere mortals are not aware

Re: [silk] Netiquette / Top posting (was: Re: aqvavit)

2012-02-25 Thread Sirtaj Singh Kang
On 2/25/2012 8:44 PM, Udhay Shankar N wrote: It doesn't help matters that the two most commonly used MUAs, Microsoft Outlook and gmail, all but force you to top-post. I'm using Thunderbird at the moment and it's also pretty bad. It's likely that there's some obvious trick that I'm missing,

Re: [silk] Netiquette / Top posting (was: Re: aqvavit)

2012-02-25 Thread Deepak Shenoy
Apropos to nothing but the subject of this thread, I rarely ever top post (unless from the mobile) because I used to be a techie and (also) am used to very long, disconnected conversations within the same email or post. Which is silly if you think about it but I'm too lazy to start different

Re: [silk] Netiquette / Top posting (was: Re: aqvavit)

2012-02-25 Thread Pranesh Prakash
Sirtaj Singh Kang [2012-02-25 23:00]: I'm using Thunderbird at the moment and it's also pretty bad. It's likely that there's some obvious trick that I'm missing, but I have a really hard time trimming quoted messages even in text-only mode. What kind of problems? I see you're using

Re: [silk] Netiquette / Top posting (was: Re: aqvavit)

2012-02-25 Thread Sirtaj Singh Kang
On 2/25/2012 11:42 PM, Pranesh Prakash wrote: [snip] What kind of problems? Usually when I aggressively remove large chunks of text, the quoting indent disappears and the remained quoted text becomes part of the message body. This happens more often near the start of the message, as if I'm

Re: [silk] Netiquette / Top posting (was: Re: aqvavit)

2012-02-25 Thread Pranesh Prakash
Sirtaj Singh Kang [2012-02-26 00:15]: Usually when I aggressively remove large chunks of text, the quoting indent disappears and the remained quoted text becomes part of the message body. That's odd, because you're replying in plaintext and not HTML. (The quoting indent that shows up for

Re: [silk] Netiquette / Top posting (was: Re: aqvavit)

2012-02-25 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 11:30:52PM +0530, Deepak Shenoy wrote: Apropos to nothing but the subject of this thread, I rarely ever top post (unless from the mobile) because I used to be a techie and (also) am used to very long, disconnected conversations within the same email or post. Which is

Re: [silk] Netiquette / Top posting (was: Re: aqvavit)

2012-02-25 Thread Charles Haynes
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 12:36 AM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay sankarshan.mukhopadh...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 6:29 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote: Gmail on the web has its own idiosyncracies and some context sensitive advertising that occasionally tends to the

Re: [silk] Netiquette / Top posting (was: Re: aqvavit)

2012-02-25 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On 26-Feb-12 12:15 AM, Sirtaj Singh Kang wrote: Usually when I aggressively remove large chunks of text, the quoting indent disappears and the remained quoted text becomes part of the message body. This happens more often near the start of the message, as if I'm deleting some hidden

Re: [silk] Netiquette / Top posting (was: Re: aqvavit)

2012-02-25 Thread Deepak Shenoy
If you include the parts of the message you are replying to, and interleave your responses, I find the GMail model works pretty well. I hated it when I first encountered it (and hated that I couldn't delete messages) but now I find it natural. But you can, no? I suspect you already know but

Re: [silk] Netiquette / Top posting (was: Re: aqvavit)

2012-02-25 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On 26-Feb-12 9:01 AM, Deepak Shenoy wrote: But you can, no? I suspect you already know but if I pull down that little down arrow on the top right hand corner of an individual message inside a thread I get a delete option for only that message (not the whole conversation) The delete option in

Re: [silk] Netiquette / Top posting (was: Re: aqvavit)

2012-02-25 Thread Charles Haynes
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Deepak Shenoy deepakshe...@gmail.com wrote: If you include the parts of the message you are replying to, and interleave your responses, I find the GMail model works pretty well. I hated it when I first encountered it (and hated that I couldn't delete messages)

[silk] Netiquette / Top posting (was: Re: aqvavit)

2012-02-24 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Heather Madrone heat...@madrone.com wrote: This is pushing me in the direction of top-posting. Why not push you in the direction of a new email program? What features are becoming important in email programs these days? I know that for me the decision to move to

Re: [silk] Netiquette / Top posting (was: Re: aqvavit)

2012-02-24 Thread Srini RamaKrishnan
On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan che...@gmail.com wrote: I'd had enough of the silliness of pine/eudora/mulberry/outlook/mutt/thunderbird madness. Should really read: I'd had enough of the silliness of pine/eudora/mulberry/outlook/mutt/thunderbird data migration madness.

Re: [silk] Netiquette / Top posting (was: Re: aqvavit)

2012-02-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
@lists.hserus.net Subject: [silk] Netiquette / Top posting (was: Re: aqvavit) Sent: Feb 25, 2012 00:45 On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Heather Madrone heat...@madrone.com wrote: This is pushing me in the direction of top-posting. Why not push you in the direction of a new email program? What features