Re: [silk] Art, or what

2007-05-20 Thread ashok _
I dont get your point, simply because its possible to potray any religion in a fanatical way, depending upon who you ask. You seem to make it sound as if only hindus have been potrayed as fanatics... Why do you feel so victimized ?? On 5/20/07, shiv sastry wrote: So if fanatical is

Re: [silk] Art, or what

2007-05-20 Thread shiv sastry
On Sunday 20 May 2007 4:51 pm, ashok _ wrote: I dont get your point, simply because its possible to potray any religion in a fanatical way, depending upon who you ask. You seem to make it sound as if only hindus have been potrayed as fanatics... Why do you feel so victimized ?? Hold your

Re: [silk] Art, or what

2007-05-20 Thread Udhay Shankar N
shiv sastry wrote: [ on 05:59 PM 5/20/2007 ] Do you agree with my characterization of Hindus or do you think it is inaccurate? It is not your charactierzation that is at issue here - though that in itself is highly overdone and arguable. It is what you claim is being done *to* Hindus. And

Re: [silk] Art, or what

2007-05-20 Thread ashok _
On 5/20/07, shiv sastry wrote: Do you agree with my characterization of Hindus or do you think it is inaccurate? the description may be literally accurate, but whether it would characterize fanaticism is really very subjective... you said: How much more difference could there be between

Re: [silk] Art, or what

2007-05-20 Thread shiv sastry
On Sunday 20 May 2007 6:50 pm, ashok _ wrote: You make very many assumptions both in terms of how hinduism is perceived and how someone else is interpreting it, and what a civiilized and normal society is Please educate me on these points. I am willing to learn and change my views. How is

Re: [silk] Art, or what

2007-05-20 Thread Udhay Shankar N
shiv sastry wrote: [ on 08:21 PM 5/20/2007 ] Sorry - I don't understand what you are talking about wrt the martyrdom business. Will come back to this after my responses below. You say they are highly overdone? I don't buy that. I have said it like it is and will retract and apologize if

Re: [silk] The Real Montessori?

2007-05-20 Thread Ramjee Swaminathan
Thaths, I do not know about Mumbai - so will inject some noise about chennai and bangalore stuff. In chennai there are (at least 'were') two reasonable schools - one is/was called abacus (adyar/taramani) and the other is in velachery (think it is/was called navadisha or some such thing - google

Re: [silk] The Real Montessori?

2007-05-20 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 11:53:53PM +0530, Ramjee Swaminathan wrote: As for Eugen's comments, I would say - careful with that axe please! :-) I don't know about your brand of Waldorf or Montessori schools, but ours do not prepare kids for harsher realities of the world. They grow up too

Re: [silk] The Real Montessori?

2007-05-20 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 08:53:25PM +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote: I don't know about your brand of Waldorf or Montessori schools, but ours do not prepare kids for harsher realities of the world. They grow up too sheltered -- sure, some children need that, but most don't. First-hand, I've seen the

Re: [silk] Art, or what

2007-05-20 Thread shiv sastry
On Sunday 20 May 2007 10:30 pm, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote: ... to the extent that the majority of hindus avoid critical thinking, and could thus be seen to be criticised by the author, In fact it is the same lack of crticical thinking that I am bothered about too. Recall that I never said

[silk] More greenhouse bad news

2007-05-20 Thread Udhay Shankar N
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/008200705190322.htm Sci. Tech. CO2 sponge losing ability to soak up extra emissions London, (GUARDIAN NEWS SERVICE) By James Randerson Climate change 'feedback effect' in Southern Ocean - Stronger winds reduce efficiency of carbon sink One of the most

Re: [silk] Art, or what

2007-05-20 Thread shiv sastry
My primary interest has been to define what it is that I find offensive about the Martha Nussbaum article that was posted on here. I have tried to concentrate on that and have not tried to be judgemental about individual or collective opinions of members of silk list. For that reason I am

Re: [silk] The Real Montessori?

2007-05-20 Thread Deepa Mohan
My two bits: What I have found in my country either the mainstream schools where there is intense competitveness or the alternate schools where the child is actively discouraged from competition (ok, in my opinion, for children who have a family business to walk into, but not great if the

Re: [silk] Art, or what

2007-05-20 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Can be taken as meta-commentary on the current thread. :-) http://xkcd.com/c263.html Udhay (g,d,r) -- ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))