Re: [silk] OpenMoko - Thoughts? (was Re: IPhone - Thoughts?)

2007-07-10 Thread Srini Ramakrishnan
OpenMoko and H.323 or SIP - now that's something. Cheeni On 7/10/07, Aditya Chadha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Has anyone seen/used one of the FIC 1973 / OpenMoko phones? It sounds like a very viable alternative to the closed apple/att hell. Cheers, Aditya On 7/9/07, VaibhaV Sharma <[EMAIL PR

[silk] firework physics

2007-07-10 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
Japanese fireworks are still the best in the world http://www.economist.com/daily/columns/techview/displaystory.cfm?story_id=9459056

Re: [silk] OpenMoko - Thoughts? (was Re: IPhone - Thoughts?)

2007-07-10 Thread Aditya Chadha
On 7/10/07, Srini Ramakrishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OpenMoko and H.323 or SIP - now that's something. Cheeni No WiFi in v1 of the FIC1973 (GTA01), which limits VoIP capabilities... Still a nice phone to hack on. Apparently, the touchscreen is super-high rez - and you 'need to see it to b

Re: [silk] OpenMoko - Thoughts? (was Re: IPhone - Thoughts?)

2007-07-10 Thread Gautam John
On 7/10/07, Aditya Chadha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No WiFi in v1 of the FIC1973 (GTA01), which limits VoIP capabilities And no camera either. Like the iPhone, I'll wait for version 2. -Gautam

Re: [silk] firework physics

2007-07-10 Thread Gautam John
On 7/10/07, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Japanese fireworks are still the best in the world Given the sheer quantum [and regularity] of fireworks we use in India, I've always wondered why they look so rudimentary when compared to the stuff I see on TV. -Gautam

Re: [silk] firework physics

2007-07-10 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 01:54:44PM +0530, Gautam John wrote: > Given the sheer quantum [and regularity] of fireworks we use in India, > I've always wondered why they look so rudimentary when compared to the > stuff I see on TV. because we like the loud bangs more than the bright sparks. (so do the

[silk] Ex-World Bank president buys Fabindia stake

2007-07-10 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
FabIndia, the kurta outfit, is worth $183 million? http://www.ft.com/cms/s/ c0ac20e4-2e40-11dc-821c-779fd2ac,dwp_uuid=a6dfcf08-9c79-11da-8762-00 00779e2340,_i_rssPage=a6dfcf08-9c79-11da-8762-779e2340.html Ex-World Bank president buys Fabindia stake By Joe Leahy in Mumbai Published: Ju

Re: [silk] OpenMoko - Thoughts? (was Re: IPhone - Thoughts?)

2007-07-10 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 01:48:38PM +0530, Gautam John wrote: > On 7/10/07, Aditya Chadha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >No WiFi in v1 of the FIC1973 (GTA01), which limits VoIP capabilities > > And no camera either. Like the iPhone, I'll wait for version 2. I'm also waiting for October. I'm als

Re: [silk] Ex-World Bank president buys Fabindia stake

2007-07-10 Thread Sthitaprajna
Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: FabIndia, the kurta outfit, is worth $183 million? Solid business plan, making and selling decent stuff, at a markup, with a good retail network - all recipes for a good valuation. And they have been cautious so far - venturing from clothes to footwear, personal car

Re: [silk] firework physics

2007-07-10 Thread Deepa Mohan
On 7/10/07, Gautam John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/10/07, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Japanese fireworks are still the best in the world Given the sheer quantum [and regularity] of fireworks we use in India, I've always wondered why they look so rudimentary when compare

Re: [silk] firework physics

2007-07-10 Thread Giancarlo Livraghi
I'd always thought that fireworks (and rockets) were invented in China. But apparenty they were developed much earlier in "Magna Graecia" i.e. by Greeks in southern Italy. http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blrockethistory.htm (Fireworks - and all sorts of noisy explosive gimmicks - ar

Re: [silk] OpenMoko - Thoughts? (was Re: IPhone - Thoughts?)

2007-07-10 Thread Tim Bray
[BTW, hello all, been lurking for a while] It's not clear whether to hack on the phone you need to get the "debug board" and also not clear what kind of computer/OS combination you can plug that board into. So I sent OpenMoko a question a couple days ago. No answer yet. Agreed that this is a *

Re: [silk] OpenMoko - Thoughts? (was Re: IPhone - Thoughts?)

2007-07-10 Thread Chris Kantarjiev
> > On 7/10/07, Aditya Chadha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >No WiFi in v1 of the FIC1973 (GTA01), which limits VoIP capabilities > > > > And no camera either. Like the iPhone, I'll wait for version 2. And 2.5G cell radio, so it will be as slow as the iPhone access that people complain abou

Re: [silk] OpenMoko - Thoughts? (was Re: IPhone - Thoughts?)

2007-07-10 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 07:08:23AM -0700, Chris Kantarjiev wrote: > > > And no camera either. Like the iPhone, I'll wait for version 2. I hope for a camera in v2. 2 MPixels would be nice. > And 2.5G cell radio, so it will be as slow as the iPhone access that GSM is okay. EDGE would have been n

Re: [silk] Ex-World Bank president buys Fabindia stake

2007-07-10 Thread shiv sastry
On Tuesday 10 Jul 2007 12:20 pm, Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: > Ex-World Bank president buys Fabindia stake Ex-world bank? What is the world bank called now? Or has it been shut down? Or is there a bank outside the world now whose president is buying things in India? shiv

Re: [silk] firework physics

2007-07-10 Thread shiv sastry
On Tuesday 10 Jul 2007 1:54 pm, Gautam John wrote: > Given the sheer quantum [and regularity] of fireworks we use in India, > I've always wondered why they look so rudimentary when compared to the > stuff I see on TV. "Cottage" industry + child labor/illiterate labor versus solid science. Khadi g

Re: [silk] Ex-World Bank president buys Fabindia stake

2007-07-10 Thread Deepa Mohan
Ex-world bank? What is the world bank called now? Or has it been shut down? Or is there a bank outside the world now whose president is buying things in India? shiv Humour is a matter of being shown something in an unexpectedly new way... Shiv, thanks, that was a wonderful way to close my day

Re: [silk] OpenMoko - Thoughts?

2007-07-10 Thread Alok G. Singh
On 10 Jul 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> No WiFi in v1 of the FIC1973 (GTA01), which limits VoIP >> capabilities > > And no camera either. Like the iPhone, I'll wait for version 2. The camera is not going to be present in GTA02 either. Wi-Fi will, though. Harald Welte said that it was a concio

[silk] Outlook feature on S. India

2007-07-10 Thread Binand Sethumadhavan
Outlook magazine has a special this week on the socio-economic progress the southern states of India (KA/AP/TN/KL; couldn't find much of PY or GA there) have made vis-a-vis the rest of the country. http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20070716&fname=JSouthern+Comfort+%28F%29&sid=1 http://

Re: [silk] OpenMoko - Thoughts?

2007-07-10 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On 10-Jul-07, at 11:11 PM, Alok G. Singh wrote: The camera is not going to be present in GTA02 either. Wi-Fi will, though. Harald Welte said that it was a concious decision to omit the camera, and I sort of agree. Could you elaborate? The camera is a significant deciding factor in any phone I