Re: [silk] ANNOUNCING INK CONFERENCE 2018 I 30 Nov-2 Dec 2018, Hyderabad

2018-09-07 Thread Venkat




On 07/09/18 6:38 AM, Ramjee Swaminathan wrote:

On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 10:43 PM Madhu Menon  wrote:

On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 at 19:35, Ramjee Swaminathan
 wrote:


You meant un scribe? Do you have any inkling of what you just wrote? O
tempora, O mores!

My message was just a sarcastic way to express displeasure over
promotional spam blasted to a mailing list not meant for it.



Sir, Madhu - I knew it was sarcasm. I realized you were annoyed. Of course.

I am an active lurker (Peace Be Upon Me), member of sulk-list, and
once in a while surface for .

Gotta rush to collect my coupon for ink.

__r.

Sarcasm and pun as a reaction to a list abuse. Whattay drift! Even Lewis 
Hamilton is put to shame. Where else would you see a conversation 
turning so rapidly?


Are the coupons still available to ink? My printer is out!

--

Cheers,
Venkat




Re: [silk] ANNOUNCING INK CONFERENCE 2018 I 30 Nov-2 Dec 2018, Hyderabad

2018-09-07 Thread Lahar Appaiah
All, sorry to be a wet blanket, but these mails are pointless. Also, they
aren't terribly interesting. Could we all be a little considerate before
making people read them?





On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 12:18 PM Venkat  wrote:

>
>
> On 07/09/18 6:38 AM, Ramjee Swaminathan wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 10:43 PM Madhu Menon  wrote:
> >> On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 at 19:35, Ramjee Swaminathan
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> You meant un scribe? Do you have any inkling of what you just wrote? O
> >>> tempora, O mores!
> >> My message was just a sarcastic way to express displeasure over
> >> promotional spam blasted to a mailing list not meant for it.
> >>
> >>
> > Sir, Madhu - I knew it was sarcasm. I realized you were annoyed. Of
> course.
> >
> > I am an active lurker (Peace Be Upon Me), member of sulk-list, and
> > once in a while surface for .
> >
> > Gotta rush to collect my coupon for ink.
> >
> > __r.
> >
> Sarcasm and pun as a reaction to a list abuse. Whattay drift! Even Lewis
> Hamilton is put to shame. Where else would you see a conversation
> turning so rapidly?
>
> Are the coupons still available to ink? My printer is out!
>
> --
>
> Cheers,
> Venkat
>
>
>


Re: [silk] ANNOUNCING INK CONFERENCE 2018 I 30 Nov-2 Dec 2018, Hyderabad

2018-09-07 Thread Venkat




On 07/09/18 12:30 PM, Lahar Appaiah wrote:

All, sorry to be a wet blanket, but these mails are pointless. Also, they
aren't terribly interesting. Could we all be a little considerate before
making people read them?




One can always do what Madman did if the emails are pointless. :-)

--

Cheers,
Venkat




Re: [silk] Hi there!

2018-09-07 Thread Radhika, Y.
Hóla José!

For all the reasons you mentioned, I continue to lurk on Silk. Something
really calming about seeing real content and debate. I am one of the few
nontechies here and I am mainly interested in language (acquisition, and
translation). I spent 5 months in Zaragoza last year working on my Spanish
and getting a more nuanced understanding (well, I hope) of the country, its
conflicts and morcilla.

Hope to see more from you.
Cheers.
Radhika

On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 3:17 PM José María Mateos 
wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 06, 2018 at 06:25:23AM +0530, Deepa Mohan wrote:
> > Welcome, Jose! That was an interesting comment of yours about mailing
> > lists... would like to hear a little more.
>
> Just something I've experienced first hand. Mailing list discussions
> tend to be more nuanced and carried in more good faith that a lot of
> social network dumpster fires out there, where it seems like disruption
> is the way to go. I think there are several causes for that, but the
> facts that mailing lists have typically small memberships and, for a lot
> of people, are cumbersome to manage and require some effort to join, I
> think that nudges the subscribers to take more care of them.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -- José María (Chema) Mateos
> https://rinzewind.org/blog-es || https://rinzewind.org/blog-en
>
>

-- 
 If you swap that time for money, you don't get that time back to develop
yourself."

'The way you speak to your child becomes their inner voice'


Re: [silk] Hi there!

2018-09-07 Thread José María Mateos
On Thu, Sep 06, 2018 at 06:25:23AM +0530, Deepa Mohan wrote:
> Welcome, Jose! That was an interesting comment of yours about mailing
> lists... would like to hear a little more.

Just something I've experienced first hand. Mailing list discussions 
tend to be more nuanced and carried in more good faith that a lot of 
social network dumpster fires out there, where it seems like disruption 
is the way to go. I think there are several causes for that, but the 
facts that mailing lists have typically small memberships and, for a lot 
of people, are cumbersome to manage and require some effort to join, I 
think that nudges the subscribers to take more care of them.

Cheers,

-- José María (Chema) Mateos
https://rinzewind.org/blog-es || https://rinzewind.org/blog-en



Re: [silk] Hi there!

2018-09-07 Thread Bruce A. Metcalf

José María Mateos wrote:


Deepa Mohan wrote:

Welcome, Jose! That was an interesting comment of yours about mailing
lists... would like to hear a little more.


Just something I've experienced first hand. Mailing list discussions
tend to be more nuanced and carried in more good faith that a lot of
social network dumpster fires out there, where it seems like disruption
is the way to go. I think there are several causes for that, but the
facts that mailing lists have typically small memberships and, for a lot
of people, are cumbersome to manage and require some effort to join, I
think that nudges the subscribers to take more care of them.


I have to concur, and I think there are design issues that lead to this.

Social networking sites, from the notorious Facebook (which I've almost 
given up on) to smaller, more specialized sites, tend to provide only a 
small box in which to respond. While most can be made to carry long 
messages, the format of both the input and the display (where even 
modest messages are truncated) argue that the best approach is the 
finely crafted bon mot -- more easily done as satire or insult -- than 
the thoughtful essay of arbitrary length.


This isn't limited to conventional, online, social media sites. The 
mainstream news, from cable TV to newspapers, has drifted to shorter and 
shorter items, repeating them over and over, as a means of cutting 
through the noise in the system. (And perhaps inspiring the current 
idiot President of the US.)


But for those of us who actually *like* thinking, there is no noise, as 
we work hard to find ways to isolate ourselves so as to better focus. 
For folks like us (and yes, I'm sure I'm oversimplifying here) clarity 
of thought, both our own and the expressions of others, far outweighs 
the sheer volume of mass media, which begs us to turn off our brains and 
simply marinate in the opinions of others.


Could one design a social media site that counters this trend? Yes, but 
with email list still a very serviceable tool, one fails to see much need.


Could one produce news for a mass market with longer, more thoughtful 
pieces? Perhaps, but the question is if one could do so profitably. Even 
such venerable institutions as 60 Minutes, with it's 20-minute pieces, 
tends more toward "look at this" than "what should we think of this". 
One is not optimistic.


I just finished a second viewing of the film "RBG" about Ruth Bader 
Ginsberg (an upgrade of an earlier version titled "The Notorious RBG", 
which I think was better, if less polished). I recommend seeing this 
biofilm rather than the Hollywood production that comes out later this 
year. The latter appears to be reasonably accurate, but glamorized 
account of her life, that could not be improved by such.


Speaking of "coming out", when I heard the Indian Supreme Court had 
revoked an ancient law against homosexual behavior, it was this 
Associate Justice of the US Supreme Court that came immediately to mind, 
and her lifelong defense of "equality under the law". Something this 
country still needs to work on.


And thus I demonstrate your point with a post that easily exceeds in 
length the four or five longest posts I ever made to Facebook.


Cheers,
/ Bruce /