Re: [silk] Everyone's surveilling

2007-09-12 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 06:46:10AM +0530, shiv sastry wrote: http://www.thefoucauldian.co.uk/bb.htm The statistics show that video surveillance can improve security. With 90 % I don't trust these data. of banks now fitted with cameras, 50 % of robbers are identified and arrested It's much

Re: [silk] If you use tor, use it carefully ..

2007-09-12 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 08:46:52AM +0400, Ramakrishnan Sundaram wrote: It's pretty obvious if you read the Tor documentation before installing it. In fact, it's probably less secure than if you use your normal ISP exit points, if you factor in eavesdropping as one of the motivations to set up

[silk] Indian grooms for Russian brides

2007-09-12 Thread savita rao
http://www.hindu.com/2007/09/12/stories/2007091256220100.htm

Re: [silk] Indian grooms for Russian brides

2007-09-12 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
savita rao wrote: http://www.hindu.com/2007/09/12/stories/2007091256220100.htm So someone is trying to start a Russian mail order brides business in India? It is already a notorious scam in the USA ..

Re: [silk] Indian grooms for Russian brides

2007-09-12 Thread Gautam John
On 9/12/07, Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So someone is trying to start a Russian mail order brides business in India? It is already a notorious scam in the USA .. Looks like someone in Russia is trying to start an Indian mail order grooms. Which will, undoubtedly, gain

Re: [silk] Indian grooms for Russian brides

2007-09-12 Thread Ramakrishna Reddy
On 9/12/07, Gautam John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/12/07, Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So someone is trying to start a Russian mail order brides business in India? It is already a notorious scam in the USA .. Looks like someone in Russia is trying to start an Indian

[silk] The Long Reach of India's TV News

2007-09-12 Thread Thaths
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/11/AR2007091102293_pf.html The Long Reach of India's TV News Local Stories Reign In Booming Market By Rama Lakshmi Washington Post Foreign Service Wednesday, September 12, 2007; A15 NEW DELHI -- Two weeks ago, a TV news channel here

Re: [silk] Apple drops iphone price

2007-09-12 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 10:18 +0530, Gautam John wrote: So Steve does things like this because he can. It reaffirms his iron grip over both Apple and Apple's customers. i don't see what the big deal is with the price drop (though clearly it affects profitability, hence the effect on share prices

Re: [silk] Cybercafes to have keystroke loggers

2007-09-12 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
how could he not have referred to bentham's _panopticon_ [1], which outlined a system where everyone believes they may be watched at any time, and the watchers are also wide open to the body of the curious at large? for those unfamiliar with the concept (the 18th century language is hardly

Re: [silk] Cybercafes to have keystroke loggers

2007-09-12 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
that's also true about a significant proportion of people _not_ complaining. people who can afford private computer access aren't affected. why bother about the privacy of people who can only afford to use publicly accessible internet connections? On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 14:18 +0530, shiv sastry

Re: [silk] Cybercafes to have keystroke loggers

2007-09-12 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 06:40 +0530, shiv sastry wrote: I believe there is a social lesson here. Educated, well paid, computer savvy individuals are generally seen as honest and upright. education has little to do with it. well paid people are less likely to be tempted by the same absolute

Re: [silk] Cybercafes to have keystroke loggers

2007-09-12 Thread Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 09:46 +0530, Udhay Shankar N wrote: [1] not to get all Randroid here, but what, after all, is a police force, if not a monopoly on the use of force? i know saint ayn said a lot of things, but this was max weber defining a state as the entity that has a monopoly of the

Re: [silk] Cybercafes to have keystroke loggers

2007-09-12 Thread shiv sastry
On Thursday 13 Sep 2007 4:42 am, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote: well paid people are less likely to be tempted by the same absolute amounts than poorly paid people (they may be tempted by large amounts, of course) I accept this as a valid opinion that you hold, but I would like to see more clear

Re: [silk] Cybercafes to have keystroke loggers

2007-09-12 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote: [ on 03:32 AM 9/13/2007 ] how could he not have referred to bentham's _panopticon_ [1], which outlined a system where everyone believes they may be watched at any time, and the watchers are also wide open to the body of the curious at large? In fact, Brin does refer

Re: [silk] Cybercafes to have keystroke loggers

2007-09-12 Thread Udhay Shankar N
shiv sastry wrote: [ on 06:35 AM 9/13/2007 ] well paid people are less likely to be tempted by the same absolute amounts than poorly paid people (they may be tempted by large amounts, of course) I accept this as a valid opinion that you hold, but I would like to see more clear evidence that

Re: [silk] Cybercafes to have keystroke loggers

2007-09-12 Thread Charles Haynes
On 9/13/07, shiv sastry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He has less absolute amounts of money than many of his peers and the people in his new nation and is therefore more likely to be tempted to cheat or steal. This would call for racial profiling as a way of tackling crime, and it would be right.

Re: [silk] Cybercafes to have keystroke loggers

2007-09-12 Thread shiv sastry
On Thursday 13 Sep 2007 7:04 am, Udhay Shankar N wrote: Other things are clearly not equal in the example you construct below. To take one example, you ignore the effects of social conditioning that pushes Indian (and others too!) immigrants to get postgraduate degrees, and work hard in their

Re: [silk] Cybercafes to have keystroke loggers

2007-09-12 Thread shiv sastry
On Thursday 13 Sep 2007 7:13 am, Charles Haynes wrote: On 9/13/07, shiv sastry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He has less absolute amounts of money than many of his peers and the people in his new nation and is therefore more likely to be tempted to cheat or steal. This would call for racial

Re: [silk] Apple drops iphone price

2007-09-12 Thread Gautam John
On 9/13/07, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't see what the big deal is with the price drop I think what Apple didn't see was that consumers don't really like it when companies, Apple and its Reality Distortion Field included, follow business practices that tend towards profit