Paula,
Some people seem to have a green thumb.
Maybe you have a yellow thumb.
Dan
Re: CSWhy the yellow CS - an hypothesis
From: sol (view other messages by this author)
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:33:33
No northern lights visible here, in the corner of southwest
wyoming
Now, there's a scary thought!
paula
- Original Message -
From: Dan Nave dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com
Some people seem to have a green thumb.
Maybe you have a yellow thumb.
Dan
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, November 30, 2003 8:08 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSWhy the yellow CS - an hypothesis
Yes
With a hot spot in the center bottom, heat rises fast in the center as it is
shed along the outside perifery which makes the cooler liquid sink, further
reinforcing the central updraft
Run it for a while without the heat source to get a good white cloud going, then turn it on and watch.
Without using silver? Put something in the water that has a near neutral to slightly negative bouyancy. A small piece of paper well soaked?
Ode
At 12:41 AM 12/2/2003 -0600, you wrote:
I'd use PETE plastic, like soda bottles if glass can't be used.
Ode
At 06:30 PM 11/30/2003 EST, you wrote:
Would it put it be correct to say that ionic silver can react with plastic containers? I've been using HDPE plastic bottles from specialtybottle.com to store the cs from my Silver
HDPE should have not taste, it should not be solubile at all. For some
unknown reason, some bottle manufacturers want to add plastercizer to
HDPE, which is totally unnecessary, since HDPE is almost waxlike to
start with.
If this is the case, you can easily get the plasticizer out of the
bottle by
, 2003 8:08 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSWhy the yellow CS - an hypothesis
Yes
With a hot spot in the center bottom, heat rises fast in the center as it is
shed along the outside perifery which makes the cooler liquid sink, further
reinforcing the central updraft.
Going the other way
Yes
With a hot spot in the center bottom, heat rises fast in the center as it is shed along the outside perifery which makes the cooler liquid sink, further reinforcing the central updraft.
Going the other way with liquid cooling [vs heating], you get pretty much the same central updraft as the
Direct stirring from the top makes a tornado effect that may not reach the bottom in tall containers unless the water speed is excessive. A long slow moving stir stick would be a good thing.
If water moves too fast past the electrodes, a fuzzy grey deposit will grow on an electrode by particle
Yes it would...and keep heat gain in check.
Simpler, preheat the water to raise the initial conductivity of the water
to shorten run time.
Use the heater to keep conductivity up for the first half or 3/4 of the
expected time, then switch it off for the remainder and use thermal
downdraft
Silver... or anything in its ionic state is EXTREMLY reactive.
If you have dissolved sulpher compounds in the water, I'd expect near
instant tarnish.
Power plants work year round.
Windows are usually closed in the winter, so, it might all average out.
Rather than boiling with
Makes sense to me.
On my process, the heat has never exceeded about 98 deg. The bigger the
container, the longer the run but , the more head shed from the larger
surface area.
However, preheating will get things going sooner and using thermal cooling
for convection toward the end may yeild
It makes sense that a glass
lid on top of a thermally mixed
vessel would produce a
better CS.
In a cylindrical vessel heated
at its lower end, the steady-state
convection will be an updraft
vertically along the center axial
region, and a downdraft along
the periphery of the cylinder
except for
on the two gallon brew vessel.
Thanks,
Vince
-Original Message-
From: Matthew McCann PE [mailto:mmcc...@franciscan.edu]
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 10:26 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSWhy the yellow CS - an hypothesis
It makes sense that a glass
lid on top
Hi, Vince!
The mixing method given
by Ole Bob produces
by itself in steady state
in a cylindrical vessel a
pattern of flowlines that
are horizontal and
tangential. A combination
of the vertical-axial convection
of thermal stirring with the
horizontal-tangential shearing
of Ole Bob is has a
oops, meant to reply to the message about covering the brew container
while making CS...I have never made CS in an open container.
So that can't be the problem. Maybe keeping the batch cool, but I
wouldn't know how to do that...my silverpuppy is the Thermal 2
model, maybe I could
No northern lights visible here, in the corner of southwest
wyoming.maybe up in Jackson or Yellowstone, 4 to 7 hours drive
from here.
Ozone, huh? Could ozone account for the fact that if I let the
distiller bring the water to a boil, and then let it boil uncovered 3
to 5 minutes before
Hi, Sol!
Surrounding the vessel with
ice water will give a more
uniform and reproducible
effect, with no loss of
thermal gradient. Just add
more ice in case it all
melts.
It seems to me you will
get more convection at
a lower temperature with
the same amount of heat.
Or, heating could be
Thanks, I will try it, and post results.
paula
- Original Message -
From: Matthew McCann PE
Surrounding the vessel with
ice water will give a more
uniform and reproducible
effect, with no loss of
thermal gradient. Just add
more ice in case it all
melts.
Using my cheap high-volume colloidal silver maker, I've never turned out
a yellow batch; it's very strong, 35 PPM (Robert Berger) using distilled
water and a 1.5 minute per quart brew time, more potent using RO, and has
very little Tyndall.
Yellow CS in my view can't be due to a thermal
Thank you for sharing the journey with us, Lynda.
Peace.
Mike D.
this has nothing to do with this email, just wanted to thank all of the
people on the list that wrote me and helped with info for my sister who
had lung cancer, she has recently died, but she lived almost 3 years and
she was
The best water I've found meters out at .8 uS.
The worst I'll use is 4.5 uS
I have yet to make a yellow batch with a series 2 even taking it to 47 uS
with a TE heavy enough to walk on.
I did make a very yellow batch using a gen modified to put out 14
microamps to check out Mike Monets
Ode reminded me of a recent discovery that covering my brew container
while I'm making my CS gave me better results: less TE and clearer CS
for the same PWT readings in the finished batch. I have a glass
container and put the glass lid on it while brewing. The silver wires
and the stirrer mounts
I can't seem to make anything but yellow CS. Rather, I don't make it, it
turns yellow in a coupla
days, no matter where I store it.
The water I'm using measures around .2 (2/10ths) uS using my Hanna pwt
before production.
I measure my finished batches at around 15-17 uS. (auto-shutoff w/
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