Hi Shar,
Theoretically It will probably have degrade a bit , It looses strength by
outgassing slowly. I have 1/2 a litre of the 35% in exactly the same
place in my frig, but mine is in its glass bottle, in a strong plastic
screwtop transport container. It gets used slowly here and I can't say
Thanks Tony. dee
On 15 Apr 2010, at 19:57, Tony Moody wrote:
Hi Dee,
Yes , Take it out of the cardboard tube, You could wrap it in something
plastic like bubble wrap if you feel nervous about it it bumping about.
It would be good to keep it in a closed plastic container in the frig.
This is what my shop bought one says too. Wish I'd stayed with it! dee
On 15 Apr 2010, at 22:32, sol wrote:
Ode Coyote wrote:
Not all brands use stabilizers.
Diamond brand from the Dollar Tree is 100% 3% peroxide and water.
It's cheap [$1] and they aren't concerned if it doesn't last
Hi Tony
You say your's is in the refrigerator, but it's in glass. Mine is in the
freezer, but it's in plastic.
(one of these days I'll dig it out and see how it's holding up!)
I'm just trying to weigh the benefits and drawbacks on either side of
this storage equation.
Thanks
Not all brands use stabilizers.
Diamond brand from the Dollar Tree is 100% 3% peroxide and water.
It's cheap [$1] and they aren't concerned if it doesn't last a long time.
Ode
At 03:29 PM 4/14/2010 +0100, you wrote:
Sorry, it may be clear to you, but not to me. What sort of container
\
Right
*What* is in the water counts more than *how much*, but nothing in it
eliminates *what*.
Unfortunately, even a PWT doesn't detect every *what* there can be...but it
gets close most of the time.
Ode
At 10:32 AM 4/14/2010 -0600, you wrote:
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
I know we've
Ditto, on the brand from Costco
-- Original message from Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net: --Not all brands use stabilizers. Diamond brand from the Dollar Tree is 100% 3% peroxide and water. It's cheap [$1] and they aren't concerned if it doesn't last a
Thanks for this Del--it is scary! I have mine in the freezer but the lid is
tightly closed so none gets out. It is also in a cardboard tube. Do you think
I should take it out of there? I can't wait to get rid of it actually - and
just go back to 3% as I am a bit of a coward about things
Hi Dee,
Yes , Take it out of the cardboard tube, You could wrap it in something
plastic like bubble wrap if you feel nervous about it it bumping about.
It would be good to keep it in a closed plastic container in the frig.
And very prominently marked.
Umm If somebody does take a drink of it
Oh boy.
I guess I'd better ask this question.
I've had a pint of 35% in the freezer for at least the past 8 yrs. It's
buried under and behind everything, and I think I've got it wrapped in
foil.
Any comments? (just the prinitable ones, please!)
;-)
Sharon
From: Tony Moody
Ode Coyote wrote:
Not all brands use stabilizers.
Diamond brand from the Dollar Tree is 100% 3% peroxide and water.
It's cheap [$1] and they aren't concerned if it doesn't last a long time.
Shows what I get for not re-checking labels in years. I checked the 3% I
have on hand, plus checked
Yes,
A lot of good it's doing you...
Chuck
I'm developing TAGrophobia !
On 4/15/2010 3:19:36 PM, starshar (stars...@comcast.net) wrote:
Oh boy.
I guess I'd better ask this question.
I've had a pint of 35% in the
freezer for at least the past 8 yrs.
T'aint for me. It's for emergencies.
The latest TAG may be the best of all!!
Sharon
Yes,
A lot of good it's doing you...
Chuck
I'm developing TAGrophobia !
On 4/15/2010 3:19:36 PM, starshar (stars...@comcast.net) wrote:
Oh boy.
I guess I'd
So you think it would be ok to use the 3% sol - just put more in? I must say
I would prefer to do this because handling the 35% makes me rather nervous
lol I still have to use up nearly a whole bottle of the 35% one though,
which is going to take some time I fear! dee
On 13 Apr 2010, at
I know we've done this before but I can't get my head round it at all I'm
afraid. My TDS meter reads 000 on my distilled water, which to me means that
there is 0 dissolved substances in it. I mean, I know there is probably some
that are too small for the meter to read. When I did my first
No I didn't sol - big mistake I think! dee
On 13 Apr 2010, at 21:07, sol wrote:
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
But I didn't have a problem when I used the tissue Dave--only when I used
the melamine pad! I'm not going to clean them at all now though! dee
Now another question I just
Oh Lord, me either! Are these 'parts' ounces, i.e 10 ounces DW to 1 ounce HP?
dee
On 13 Apr 2010, at 21:15, sol wrote:
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
I intend to make some 3% from my 35% sol, so do you know how I do that? I
mean, how much water would I put in to HP and do I need distilled
Sorry David this seems complicated to me (math moron that I am) I have a
sixteen ounce bottle (used formerly to house 3% store- bought HP) and I want to
know how much 35% HP to put in if I fill it with DW. It has to be really
simple I'm afraid lol dee
On 14 Apr 2010, at 05:01, David Bearrow
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Ruth
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From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?
Sorry David this seems complicated to me (math moron that I am) I have a
sixteen ounce bottle (used
Sorry, it may be clear to you, but not to me. What sort of container are you
going to put this in? I just want to be able to dilute it as I need it and
keep the remainder in the freezer. Surely, unless you use loads of H202 it
would decompose fairly rapidly if diluted into this amount,
to the mix in the measuring cup... you now have 2 cups of
4.375%.
This should fit into your 16 oz. H202 bottle
Ruth
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Subject: Re: CSwhere is everyone
: Wed, April 14, 2010 10:40:53 AM
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Dee get a 2 or 4 cup measuring
cup.
Add 1/4 cup 35% H202 and 1/4 cup DW to the measuring
cup You now have 1/2 cup liquid that would be 17.5% H202
now.
Now add another 1/2 cup DW to the mix
Dee,
You are quite correct in guessing that the melamine pad is the culprit
casuing yellow EIS. That sort of kitchen aid often has soapy surfactant
substances designed to be longlasting and effective at cleaning . but the
surfactants and detergents, even at very small proportions, cause
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
So you think it would be ok to use the 3% sol - just put more in? I must say I
would prefer to do this because handling the 35% makes me rather nervous lol
I still have to use up nearly a whole bottle of the 35% one though, which is going
to take some time I
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
I know we've done this before but I can't get my head round it at all I'm afraid. My TDS meter reads 000 on my distilled water, which to me means that there is 0 dissolved substances in it.
Ode can correct me if I am wrong, but with a TDS, I think a reading of
000
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
No I didn't sol - big mistake I think! dee
LOL, I'd say so!
sol
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Well done Ruth--I think I've got it! dee
On 14 Apr 2010, at 15:40, Ruth Bertella wrote:
Dee get a 2 or 4 cup measuring cup.
Add 1/4 cup 35% H202 and 1/4 cup DW to the measuring cup You now have
1/2 cup liquid that would be 17.5% H202 now.
Now add another 1/2 cup DW to the
Ah, now *this* I can understand! You see, we don't measure in 'cups' here in
the UK (although you could use a teacup I suppose) its all ounces, or mls and
litres. thanks Dick. dee
On 14 Apr 2010, at 15:46, Richard Goodwin wrote:
Another way of looking at it:
Get a 12 oz container. Put
I'll probably end up getting one of those one day, just to see what it really
is, but as long as my CS goes back to the way it was before the rods 'incident'
I wont bother for a while. dee
On 14 Apr 2010, at 17:32, sol wrote:
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
A PWT meter reads in tenths of a
Message
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, April 14, 2010 2:03:18 PM
Subject: Re: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?
Ah, now *this* I can understand! You see, we don't measure in 'cups' here in
the UK (although you could use a teacup I suppose) its
Ooh don't, sol! This is what bothers me I have to say--I don't really like
handling things like this, and I hate a load of messing about with things. I'd
much rather just pour it out and get on with it, with no worries. Its bad
enough with all the fiddling about with the liposomal Vit C! My
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
I'll probably end up getting one of those one day, just to see what it really
is, but as long as my CS goes back to the way it was before the rods 'incident'
I wont bother for a while. dee
Since you almost certainly just had a one time contamination problem,
Take a shot glass.
Fill once with your 35% peroxide.
Pour it into your storage jar.
Now pour 11 shot glassfuls of distilled water in the same container.
Viola, walla??? Wallmart???
Chuck
I'm sure it's clearly explained in the Zmodem DOC's
On
Sol, you are correct. 35% H2O2 is dangerous. I usually handle it only with
rubber (dishwashing) gloves on.
However, I once got some on my fingers, which turned white, but I quickly
rinsed them with water and they were soon perfectly ok again. Above all,
never get it in your eyes, and keep it
Del wrote:
Sol, you are correct. 35% H2O2 is dangerous. I usually handle it
only with rubber (dishwashing) gloves on.
However, I once got some on my fingers, which turned white, but I
quickly rinsed them with water and they were soon perfectly ok again.
Grocery store 3% does that to my
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Hi Dee, Annie,
is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
FYI: Using a Blue 405-nm Laser, or even Green LD...can-detect smaller...Size!
Have gone down to 385-nm (non-laser) light source, using special TRIX PMT.
(Not sure Particle(s) Size PEAKING at 405 nm, but-maybe...Marshall knows
Hi Dok, thanks for the info (when I worked it all out vbg) I found that when
I used store bought 3% HP it went a horrible smog grey - but this time I used
the 35% and it cleared it up nicely. dee
On 13 Apr 2010, at 08:44, Dok Dallas wrote:
SECOND-POSTING First Time was Too-Long to Go...so,
Dee
Since one drop of 35% is roughly ten times as much as one drop of 3% do
you suppose you might have the same results by putting enough of the 3% in
to equalize the difference?
Dave
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.orgwrote:
Hi Dok, thanks for the info (when
is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?
Dee
Since one drop of 35% is roughly ten times as much as one drop of 3% do you
suppose you might have the same results by putting enough of the 3% in to
equalize the difference?
Dave
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 7:48 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote:
Hi
or
any other chemicals, that would really screw things up.
Dick
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*Sent:* Tue, April 13, 2010 11:37:31 AM
*Subject:* Re: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?
Dee
Since one drop of 35
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
Hi Dok, thanks for the info (when I worked it all out vbg) I found that when
I used store bought 3% HP it went a horrible smog grey - but this time I used the 35%
and it cleared it up nicely. dee
Have you taken into account that the 35% is over 10 times more
Dave Darrin wrote:
Dee
Since one drop of 35% is roughly ten times as much as one drop of 3%
do you suppose you might have the same results by putting enough of
the 3% in to equalize the difference?
Dave
I can't believe it, LOL. I waited and waited for someone else to mention
the strength
I did put in three drops of the 3% Dave and when it went grey, I put in some
more but it went nearly black! I assumed it was because there is something
else in the 3%. dee
On 13 Apr 2010, at 16:37, Dave Darrin wrote:
Dee
Since one drop of 35% is roughly ten times as much as one drop of
Me too Davenormally. This has only happened the last two batches. Usually
I have no residue in the jar - which stays clean, and I only wipe the
electrodes with a tissue as they have some grey mainly on one. I too use
reverse polarity. dee
On 13 Apr 2010, at 18:00, Dave Darrin wrote:
Exactly what happened to me.
Dick
- Original Message
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, April 13, 2010 1:58:29 PM
Subject: Re: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?
I did put in three drops of the 3% Dave and when it went grey, I put
Dee
Apparently the tissue is your problem, as the making of paper products uses
many unknown (to me) chemicals that could leave some residual contamination.
Also a grey color on an electrode is a plus as it shows a roughness of the
electrode which promotes better removal of the silver by having
No I didn't sol. It just went darker each time I added a drop, but I didn't
add anywhere near that amount. I just assumed it had contaminants in it. dee
On 13 Apr 2010, at 18:36, sol wrote:
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
Hi Dok, thanks for the info (when I worked it all out vbg) I found that
But I didn't have a problem when I used the tissue Dave--only when I used the
melamine pad! I'm not going to clean them at all now though! dee
On 13 Apr 2010, at 19:15, Dave Darrin wrote:
Dee
Apparently the tissue is your problem, as the making of paper products uses
many unknown (to me)
.
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 00:44:19 -0700
From: dokdal...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
FYI: Using a Blue 405-nm Laser, or even Green
LD...can-detect smaller...Size!
Have gone down to 385-nm (non-laser) light source
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
I did put in three drops of the 3% Dave and when it went grey, I put in some
more but it went nearly black! I assumed it was because there is something
else in the 3%. dee
Despite claims of the purity of 35% peroxide, there ARE also other
substances in it,
I intend to make some 3% from my 35% sol, so do you know how I do that? I
mean, how much water would I put in to HP and do I need distilled water or
would tap do? Thanks. dee
On 13 Apr 2010, at 20:39, sol wrote:
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
I did put in three drops of the 3% Dave and when
- Original Message
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
I did put in three drops of the 3% Dave and when it went grey, I put in some
more but it went nearly black! I assumed it was because there is something
else in the 3%. dee
I only ever had one batch do that, it went
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
But I didn't have a problem when I used the tissue Dave--only when I used the
melamine pad! I'm not going to clean them at all now though! dee
Now another question I just thought of: did you rinse the electrodes
with distilled water after using the melamine pad
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
I intend to make some 3% from my 35% sol, so do you know how I do that? I
mean, how much water would I put in to HP and do I need distilled water or
would tap do? Thanks. dee
I'd use distilled water. 1 part 35% peroxide to 9 parts distilled water
will give
: CSwhere is everyone?/...TAITP~WBSF?
The strength of the Tyndall I, that is the intensity of the scattered
light to the light beam is given by the following equation:
I = kNV^2/w^4
where N is the number of particles, V is the volume of each particle,
and w is the wavelength of the light
enough to 3.5%.
David
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Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 3:16 PM
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Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
I intend to make some 3% from my 35% sol, so do you know how I
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