RE: CStime for closing argument

2005-03-29 Thread M. G. Devour
Erna quoted: IF YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND SOMETHING, YOU ARE ABLE TO EXPLAIN IT TO A CHILD. Ernie replies, Thank you Erna, I think that should be the closing statement to this whole fiasco! :-) LOL I guess that ought to put the discussion in its proper context. What we saw here the past few

CSAre there CS generators being sold in Asia?

2005-03-29 Thread Nenah Sylver
I just received an email from someone in Malaysia who wants a CS generator. I can recommend a few good ones from the United States and Canada, but are there any being sold in Asia or even Europe that anyone knows about? Thanks. Nenah P.S. I was thinking that it would be *great* to have a

Re: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps? COMMENT

2005-03-29 Thread Nenah Sylver
- Original Message - From: Brooks Bradley brooks76...@lycos.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 11:45 PM Subject: Re: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps? COMMENT Dear Thom, Please do not be discouraged by the dialogues on

Re: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps?

2005-03-29 Thread Mike Monett
Re: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps? From: cking001 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 20:37:19 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m79104.html [...] Heck, I went to a third iteration of manufacturing using a ripped apart microwave oven for its 4 kv DC power supply. I think it was

RE: CStime for closing argument

2005-03-29 Thread Yogiboy
Thank you Erna, I think that should be the closing statement to this whole fiasco! :-) -Original Message- From: Han en/of Erna Nieuwmans [mailto:libra...@planet.nl] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 3:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CStime for closing argument In addition to

Re: CSbasic dumb question

2005-03-29 Thread Mike Monett
Re: CSbasic dumb question From: Mike Monett Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:28:54 Background ~~ Earlier, I posted the results of an experiment to determine the solubility of silver hydroxide in dw. The conclusion is silver hydroxide is insoluble:

Re: CSbeginners question

2005-03-29 Thread M. G. Devour
Good day, Erna, They advise to use distilled water and to clean the silver electrodes after about 15 min. with a soft cloth and when you are finished, after 35 minutes (and that's really necessary, I found!). Their website is: www.specialenergy.nl Could you go to their web site and find the

Re: CSIonic versus Colloidal

2005-03-29 Thread Tony Moody
Hi Marshall, Granted your point that CS is relatively ineffective in a solid medium. But I would imagine that a laboratory that is used to testing germicides would know what they are doing. Any food factory / yeast producer / beer brewery should be able to help with this or point you in the

RE: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps? COMMENT

2005-03-29 Thread Richard Harris
Thanks again, Brooks for ALL the excellent information you continue to so generously share with us seekers! You have stated this so eloquently and I believe we can all understand and appreciate it. Sincerely, ___ Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West

Re: CSWarning for LV CS

2005-03-29 Thread Sandee George
So you are both saying then that the colloidal silver has nothing to do with reducing/obviating of the bruise or the inflammation - it is the energy/massage/mindset which works the magic ? Sandee The one who accomplished it is the one who failed to realize that he could not do it. -- The Silver

Re: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps?

2005-03-29 Thread cking001
No Mike, I'm not into manufacturing (as in making more than one, or a commercial venture). The term lethal voltages is grossly overused, at least in this instance. If you have a microwave oven, a TV, or even a bedside lamp, you are already harboring lethal voltage devices in your home. Common

CS

2005-03-29 Thread Debbie Mcdonald
BushGreenwatch i...@bushgreenwatch.org wrote:*** BUSHGREENWATCH Tracking the Bush Administration's Environmental Misdeeds http://www.bushgreenwatch.org *** March 29, 2005 RELIGIOUS USE OF MERCURY ENDANGERING LATINO AND

Re: CSLuz and Faith

2005-03-29 Thread M. G. Devour
Ahhh, and where to get a *fresh* coconut here in the midwestern US? sigh Mike D. On another list there has been a discussion of ridding cataracts with the juice of a fresh coconut applied as an eyewash. Reported results were excellent and pretty much immediate. sounds like it would be

CSbeginners question

2005-03-29 Thread Han en/of Erna Nieuwmans
Hello Mike D. Thank you very much for your clear answers to my previous questions, about heating CS. The generator I bought last week is made by Special Energy Products, and is called the Electrolyser (price around 180 euro). It produces one litre of CS per batch. I have to leave the two

Re: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps?

2005-03-29 Thread Marshall Dudley
None of us are saying that EIS does not work. Most of the discussion is on the process by which it works, gets into the blood, what form it take when it gets there and so forth. No matter what the consensus on these points, the fact is, IT DOES WORK, and has essentually no downside or side

Re: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps?

2005-03-29 Thread Marshall Dudley
Maybe we should start a CS technical list where the experimenters, researchers and so forth can post without cluttering the main list? Marshall M. G. Devour wrote: Hi gang, I wonder if the Ionic vs. Colloidal debate has had enough time now to begin to reach some consensus? Could maybe

Re: CSCS debate

2005-03-29 Thread Ode Coyote
If someone says ionic silver alone, it is not clear if they mean the ionic portion of EIS, or a silver compound dissolved in water. ##Silver Hydroxide is a compound dissolved in water, hence ionic..right? See where distictions become confused? Is silver hydroxide dissolved or not? In this

Re: CSbasic dumb question

2005-03-29 Thread Ode Coyote
A month or so ago there was all sorts of info and people who sold silver hydroxide. I swear it said 'white powder'. Now, I can't anything but a decription as a tan 'substance' used for anion experiments. looking... Hey! Remember Reid Harvey? http://www.purifier.com.np/CS.htm

Re: CSWarning for LV CS

2005-03-29 Thread Ode Coyote
Sorry, I mis-quoted. It's Dogs excreted approximately 90% of an inhaled dose of metallic silver particles in the feces within 30 days of exposure. [Phalen and Morrow 1973] risk.lsd.ornl.gov/tox/profiles/silver_f_V1.shtml Following intratracheal administration to beagle dogs, the absorption

CSAre there CS generators being sold in Asia?

2005-03-29 Thread Ode Coyote
I just received an email from someone in Malaysia who wants a CS generator. I can recommend a few good ones from the United States and Canada, but are there any being sold in Asia or even Europe that anyone knows about? Thanks. Nenah P.S. I was thinking that it would be *great* to have a

Re: CSThermal stiring

2005-03-29 Thread Ode Coyote
It will help but won't be enough to stir a gallon very well unless it's very short. A gallon jug is very tall and has much more surface area to lose heat than a 7 watt bulb can put out. It won't heat the water by very much, if at all. Putting a chimney in the gallon jug should work quite well.

Re: CSbasically dumb questioner [ode]

2005-03-29 Thread Ode Coyote
At 01:54 PM 3/28/2005 -0500, you wrote: Ode Coyote wrote: I've seen the silver smearing off either electrode [should be just one, right?] Anyhow, you can buy Silver Hydroxide Reagent? and it's described as a white powder, virtually insoluable in water. Where? It is not in my Acros

Re: CS

2005-03-29 Thread Ode Coyote
Could it be that the dissolved portions as ions and anions are unstable while the undissolved portions as a compound are stable? Ode At 06:41 PM 3/28/2005 -0500, you wrote: Marshall wrote: Silver ions in a solution cannot exist without water, so when the water is evaporated the silver

RE: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps?

2005-03-29 Thread Ode Coyote
A lot of innovation happens in somebody's garage, but a whole lot more of it requires serious science and engineering, and the complex language that goes along with it. ## The innovator does it...the scientists tells him what he did. But when the ignorant innovator does something really

Re: CSbasic dumb question

2005-03-29 Thread Ode Coyote
At 02:28 PM 3/28/2005 -0500, you wrote: Ode Coyote wrote: When using too much current, electrode ends close to the bottom, no stirring and lit from the bottom.. I have seen white particles at one electrode appearing to strean towards the other electrode, golden particles at the other

Re: CSCS Questions

2005-03-29 Thread Ode Coyote
Good question. Silver particles are conductive, and could be affected by the microwave field. I would take some and put it in the microwave and heat it as you want, then use a laser to see if the tyndall changes from what was put in there. If it does not change I think it is probably fine, if

Re: CSSilver-Colloids responds

2005-03-29 Thread Ode Coyote
At 11:12 AM 3/28/2005 -0500, you wrote: > >Ode Coyote wrote: > >> Tests were done by Frank with an ion selective probe. He found no ions of >> silver. > >If this test is correct, then there are only 5 possibilities I can think of: > >1. No silver chloride makes it into the blood stream. >2. The

RE: CSBody pH

2005-03-29 Thread mborgert
Thank you for answering my post. What are the mg.of the coral calcium tablets you are taking and how many do you take and when?? Thanks mary -- Original message from Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net: -- No, I was OK taking high doses of CORAL calcium and had no

Re: CSAre there CS generators being sold in Asia?

2005-03-29 Thread Ode Coyote
Australia is pretty close Check out http://www.silverwell.com.au/ Ode At 04:50 AM 3/29/2005 -0500, you wrote: I just received an email from someone in Malaysia who wants a CS generator. I can recommend a few good ones from the United States and Canada, but are there any being sold in

CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2005 #206

2005-03-29 Thread patriot2000
To Brooks, who wrote: Those possessing useful knowledge are, forever, under a moral mandate to share itin the most simple and direct terms available to them. You ARE the voice of wisdom! Amen, and thank you, thank you, thank you! I have an advanced degree, and have been to Oz to get a

Re: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps?

2005-03-29 Thread Paul Smith
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:56:32 -0500, Marshall Dudley wrote: Maybe we should start a CS technical list where the experimenters, researchers and so forth can post without cluttering the main list? Marshall Thou shalt not! I have gotten a new perception of Colliodal Silver and its relations from

Re: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps?

2005-03-29 Thread Trem
Mike et al, I contacted Stephen Quinto yesterday via email to ask him about the test since I was not sure what I was reading on his site. Here is what he told me today There was NO media in the challenge. I don't suppose anyone carefully read the propocol. The challenge was carried out in

Re: CSIonic versus Colloidal

2005-03-29 Thread Dan Nave
Re: CSIonic versus Colloidal From: Marshall Dudley wrote: Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:53:24 M. G. Devour wrote: So we are left with the unanswered question of whether some mechanism exists by which silver

RE: CSplease tell me, are you Dutch? beginners question

2005-03-29 Thread Leonardo van Goens
Han en/of Erna Nieuwmans, please tell me, are you Dutch speaking? From: Han en/of Erna Nieuwmans libra...@planet.nl Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSbeginners question Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 18:36:59 +0200 Hello Mike D. Thank you very much for your clear

Re: CSIonic versus Colloidal

2005-03-29 Thread Marshall Dudley
Dan Nave wrote: Re: CSIonic versus Colloidal From: Marshall Dudley wrote: Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 10:53:24 M. G. Devour wrote: So we are left with the unanswered question of whether some mechanism

CSintroducing Luz and Faith

2005-03-29 Thread Leonardo van Goens
Faith and Vilma (Luz) introducing themselves to this very interesting forum. Greeting you, Company of Colloidal Silver! We are health-care workers. Luz luz...@terra.com.co is a natural healer, and I’ll tellya, it is quite an experience to be married to a psychic of her caliber. She is surely

CSthe tooth that MUSY be out

2005-03-29 Thread Leonardo van Goens
Greeting you, Company of Colloidal Silver! Although new to this forum, I would like to share this interesting sample of the stubbornness that established medicine (in this case dentistry) is capable of. See, I had this inflammation on my upper molar, the last in the row up-right. It got

Re: CSLuz and Faith

2005-03-29 Thread cking001
On another list there has been a discussion of ridding cataracts with the juice of a fresh coconut applied as an eyewash. Reported results were excellent and pretty much immediate. sounds like it would be right up your alley. BTW, Welcome Chuck If

Re: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps? COMMENT

2005-03-29 Thread OLMXR
Thanks Brooks, I might have been too simplistic, but the comments in return was worth it. I can see another side to the discussion now that I hadn't thought of before. Thanks again, Thom

Re: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps?

2005-03-29 Thread Mike Monett
Re: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps? From: cking001 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 06:42:20 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m79121.html No Mike, I'm not into manufacturing (as in making more than one, or a commercial venture). The term lethal voltages is grossly overused, at

CSlyme mom

2005-03-29 Thread GMetropulo
I would like to know of anyone having success with the bob beck protocol with chronic lyme and mycoplasma? How is it used? What equipment is the best? I took Argentum 23 at 8 tsp./d for 2 months with no herx and no improvement. I was told it was so much purer than making it. I have been

Re: CSLuz and Faith

2005-03-29 Thread cking001
Well, if it were me, Mike, I'd hie myself off to the superduper markets. I see all kinds of exotic fruits and vege's there. If THAT didn't produce produce , it's google time! We are no longer without resources in this world! Chuck Can an atheist get

Re: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps?

2005-03-29 Thread cking001
Rats! I was looking forward to more input on the double chamber system. Chuck Whose cruel idea was it for the word Lisp to have S in it? On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:27:13 -0500, Mike Monett pqunsulee...@spammotel.com wrote: But in my book, the

Re: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps?

2005-03-29 Thread Marshall Dudley
Trem wrote: Mike et al, I contacted Stephen Quinto yesterday via email to ask him about the test since I was not sure what I was reading on his site. Here is what he told me today There was NO media in the challenge. I don't suppose anyone carefully read the propocol. The challenge was

Re: CSLuz and Faith

2005-03-29 Thread Leonardo van Goens
scyuze meeyy .. I don't understand zis. Pleeze ekspaline Grretcha From: cking...@nycap.rr.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLuz and Faith Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:01:41 -0500 Well, if it were me, Mike, I'd hie myself off to the superduper markets.

Re: CSLuz and Faith

2005-03-29 Thread Leonardo van Goens
scyuze meeyy .. I don't understand zis. Pleeze ekspaline Grretcha From: cking...@nycap.rr.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLuz and Faith Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:01:41 -0500 Well, if it were me, Mike, I'd hie myself off to the superduper markets.

Re: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps?

2005-03-29 Thread Marshalee
Ooooh, what he said! A private sand box for the More Power Boys to play in! (Love `em all... ; o) Marshalee Maybe we should start a CS technical list where the experimenters, researchers and so forth can post without cluttering the main list? Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated

Re: CSLuz and Faith

2005-03-29 Thread Albert Peirce
Jungle Jim's in Fairfield Ohio. Don't expect it to be easy unless you have more than average skills wielding a machete. The easiest way is probably using an electric drill and ordinary metal bit and drilling into the nut on the stem side ( Choose a coconut with the Green husk present- the bare

Re: CSLuz and Faith

2005-03-29 Thread M. G. Devour
Jungle Jim's in Fairfield Ohio ... Choose a coconut with the Green husk present That's what I'm talking about Al. Thanks. All the coconuts I've seen so far seem ancient. Each one I've tapped or split has been rancid or soapy tasting. If I can find relatively young ones, that would be worth

Re: CScs and eyesight

2005-03-29 Thread sol
I don't myself see how it could do anything to affect eyesight. Unless there was an infection. It is very soothing misted into eyes, but I do that as an infection preventative---it is what keeps me from contracting colds and flus, along with spraying my hands. I have a pet with a blocked tear

CSLanguage and terminology, was Re: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps?

2005-03-29 Thread sol
A lot of this discussion has been way above me, but I have still learned from it. While one can't give oneself a complete scientific/technical education overnight, quite a bit of the discussion back and forth is understandable, given the use of a dictionary. sol Max Sanders wrote: As

Re: CSLuz and Faith

2005-03-29 Thread cking001
Grretcha, Mike was wondering where fresh coconuts could be obtained in his area. I was pointing out, that here in the USA, it is common for well equipped grocery stores to now have all kinds of imported exotic fruits and vegetables. If he were truly in a location that didn't have them, then using

Re: CSlyme mom

2005-03-29 Thread Marshall Dudley
gmetrop...@aol.com wrote: I would like to know of anyone having success with the bob beck protocol with chronic lyme and mycoplasma? Yes with cronic lyme. How is it used? Lots of EIS, magnetic pulsing daily, ozonated water a couple of times a day, and zapping or blood electrification once

Re: CSWarning for LV CS

2005-03-29 Thread sol
Yes, I would agree that has been my experience, if you mean putting straight CS on a bruise. Now, putting on a mix of DSMO and CS works a treat, but I think that is mainly the DMSO, not the silver, the silver effects being helpful but secondary. We use DMSO diluted to various strengths for

Re: CSIonic versus Colloidal

2005-03-29 Thread Mike Monett
Re: CSIonic versus Colloidal From: Marshall Dudley Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:52:19 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m79146.html P.S. This is a repost - sympatico went clang again. Sorry if it is a duplicate. Dan Nave wrote: Re: CSIonic versus Colloidal From: Marshall Dudley

Re: CSLuz and Faith

2005-03-29 Thread Sandee George
I like the sound of this one, which part of the coconut the water ? Sandee The one who accomplished it is the one who failed to realize that he could not do it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at:

Re: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps? COMMENT

2005-03-29 Thread Sandee George
Well said Sandee The one who accomplished it is the one who failed to realize that he could not do it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to:

Re: CSAre there CS generators being sold in Asia?

2005-03-29 Thread Sandee George
this looks like a pretty good unit - did not know they were making them in Oz Sandee The one who accomplished it is the one who failed to realize that he could not do it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at:

Re: CSLuz and Faith

2005-03-29 Thread Sandee George
So that the sour cream does not get sourer !!! Sandee The one who accomplished it is the one who failed to realize that he could not do it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post,

Re: CSlyme mom

2005-03-29 Thread alltogethernow
http://lymephotos.com I don't know if it works, but I woud try it if I had lyme. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List

Re: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps?

2005-03-29 Thread Mike Monett
Re: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps? From: cking001 (view other messages by this author) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:13:43 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m79155.html On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:27:13 -0500, Mike Monett pqunsulee...@spammotel.com wrote: But in my book, the

RE: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps?

2005-03-29 Thread Yogiboy
I think that's a kewl idea Marshall. :-) -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:57 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps? Maybe we should start a CS technical list where the

RE: CSBody pH

2005-03-29 Thread Ed Kasper
I had used the TRC brand (which I sell SR $24.00 120 tablets for 30 day supply. I was taking 2-4 times the recommended allowance. Calcium: High Grade Marine Coral 2,000 mg, Magnesium 250 mg, Vitamin D 400 IU, Vitamin C 60 mg, MSM 250 mg, Plus 75 chelated minerals and 100% RDA of all vitamins

CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps?

2005-03-29 Thread Trem
Hi Mike, The reading has only dropped to 44 uS over 24 hours as measured using 3 PWT averaged readings and I think it's going to stay there. I'll leave it alone for another day and see if it's really done dropping. The Tyndall is quite faint, contrary to what you thought. I'll take a photo

CSdose PPM, quantity frequency

2005-03-29 Thread SJY
Mike Monett others, It's interesting 20 us CS apparently didn't help with your mold problems, but 40 us did. What puzzles me is why double your 20 us dose wouldn't accomplish exactly the same thing? In other words, why shouldn't 2 ounces of 5 uS or PPM have exactly the same effect as 1 ounce

Re: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps?

2005-03-29 Thread Mike Monett
CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps? From: Trem Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 18:27:19 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m79175.html Hi Mike, The reading has only dropped to 44 uS over 24 hours as measured using 3 PWT averaged readings and I think it's going to stay there.

Re: CSdose PPM, quantity frequency

2005-03-29 Thread Mike Monett
CSdose PPM, quantity frequency From: SJY Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 19:21:03 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m79176.html Mike Monett others, It's interesting 20 us CS apparently didn't help with your mold problems, but 40 us did. What puzzles me is why double your 20 us

Re: CSdose PPM, quantity frequency

2005-03-29 Thread GMetropulo
know of any results for chronic laten lyme and mycoplasma.It has attacked my scalp muscle with severe burning, crunching, constriction contraction, throbbing, impaired circulation to my heart and severe spasms. I took natural immunogenics argentum 23 8x/d for 2 months to no avail. I was told

Re: CSlyme mom

2005-03-29 Thread GMetropulo
I'm told doing high salt intake could be detrimental to my already stressed heart and leg edema.

Re: CSWarning for LV CS

2005-03-29 Thread GMetropulo
I hav echronic lyme and mycoplasma which has severe fibrosis in scalp and neck tissues. Can dmso help sprayed on the scalp? What strenghth?

RE: CSBody pH

2005-03-29 Thread Sally Khanna
Ed, A Local homeopath here, syas that ALL calcium supplements contain some lead. Have you heard this? I'd sure like to know, as I take cal/mag supplements. Sally Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net wrote: I had used the TRC brand (which I sell SR $24.00 120 tablets for 30 day supply. I was

Re: CSplease tell me, are you Dutch? beginners question

2005-03-29 Thread Han en/of Erna Nieuwmans
JA, dat ben ik ! (Yes, I am, for our American friends) Erna - Original Message - From: Leonardo van Goens faithstfran...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:14 PM Subject: RE: CSplease tell me, are you Dutch? beginners question Han en/of Erna

CScomplicated explanations about cs

2005-03-29 Thread Betsy Coffey
although I enjoy much of what is posted here even if it is technical(I am trying to learn from all of this), I have to agree with Thom. As much as I consider the technical discussion educational and I welcome it, it would also be nice to have some simple explanations about how cs works and which