Re: CSFwd: [EM-health] Our DNA
Actually I had seen things on this on the television, and don't think I ever read anything on the net. However, a little googling and I found these relevent urls: http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/CellularMemories.html http://www.med.unc.edu/wellness/main/links/cellular%20memory.htm http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/2005/7-9/32-33_medicine.shtml http://ellisctaylor.homestead.com/cellularmemory.html http://www.montgomerycollege.edu/Departments/StudentJournal/volume2/kate.pdf And this is an interesting article on the metaphysical aspects and the possibility of taking on karma both ways: http://www.beyondtheveil.net/organs.html Marshall Jonathan B. Britten wrote: Marshall San, This is an extraordinary comment! I would very much like to read more about this, and would be glad for any URLs that provide factual information about the topic.I have never heard anything about this until now. Thanks in advance. JBB On Thursday, Feb 23, 2006, at 01:45 Asia/Tokyo, Marshall Dudley wrote: Consider that when a person receives an organ transplant, they will often feel the emotions, likes and dislikes of the doner until the tissue can change it's emotional attachments. Researchers were shocked when this first became apparent -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS over dose / Gray Face
Carol Ann wrote: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: I'd say that the several of our members reporting bluish nail beds are among our senior participants and probably have inherited that from the early experiments we all did when we didn't know any better how to make this stuff and how much to take. I know I've taken a lot more in the past than I'd ever take now. Hi Mike, Your statement about senior members bluish nails beg the question. and in a way contradicts previous statements (not necessarily your) that Silver does not stay in the body for great lengths of time. Such a statement implies also a consistent build up, with not enough exiting in proportion to what is being taken in. Any thoughts? Carol Ann I am not convinced that it is that at all. I took CS for years, 2 ounces of 5 ppm every day and never got any blue nail beds. Then I got bitten by a tick, got the Lyme circle around it and got terrified and drunk about half a gallon of CS for about 3 weeks. That is when I got the blue nail beds, which have not gotten any better or worse since that time. I think what happens is that the body disposes of silver by several methods, the majority of which is by the kidneys, liver and sweat. But it also disposes of it by putting it into the hair and nails, so even though the silver would have left the body eventually anyway, some does get trapped in the hair and nail growth. I have given some thought as to why the nail beds turn blue in the moons, and do not appear to grow out. Apparently the body concentrates excess metals at the point of hair/nail growth so they can get transferred to the nail or hair, but with heavy concentrations, some will aggregate and get stuck in the tissues and never make it into the nail itself, which apparently never has that problem and does not turn blue. This is only a hypothesis, and if a better explanation comes along lets take a look at it. I am not certain if photoexposure is a part of this or not considering that toenails seem to be immune to this effect. I do know that mine occurred in the summer when I was working outside, but could just be a coincidence since that would be the only time I would get a tick. Marshall
Re: CSMagnetic Matress Pad
We have a rectangular ferrite magnet about 1x2x.5 inches that I've marked the North seeking pole with a piece of masking tape. I've instructed Rose and the kids to always keep the tape away from their bodies, but to use the magnet for pain. I don't remember anything with the kids, but Rosie has used it a number of times to get rid of an itch or stitch or cramp in her foot. Says it works. No placebo effect, here. She's as skeptical as they come. grin Mike D. List, (yes, this is off-topic). I would appreciate any reports of health benefits (or lack of them) by sleeping on mattress pads made with an array of strong magnets inside. Any explanations of how magnetic fields can cause health benefits (e.g. pain reduction) would also be welcomed. (I am inquiring about static magnetic fields, not zapper style pulsed fields). Thanks, --Steve Y. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ]
Re: CSCS over dose / Gray Face
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:51:27 -0500, Marshall Dudley wrote in 43fdd9fe.dc09e...@king-cart.com: I am not convinced that it is that at all. I took CS for years, 2 ounces of 5 ppm every day and never got any blue nail beds. Then I got bitten by a tick, got the Lyme circle around it and got terrified and drunk about half a gallon of CS for about 3 weeks. So, did the Lyme disease develop or was the CS able to fend it off? Heidrun Beer Workgroup for Fundamental Spiritual Research and Mental Training http://www.sgmt.at -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS over dose / Gray Face
In a message dated 2/24/2006 6:34:19 AM Central Standard Time, hb...@sgmt.at writes: So, did the Lyme disease develop or was the CS able to fend it off? I don't know if Marshall was successful or not, but several years ago I managed to get into a nest of ticks and out of twenty or so tick bites, four had Lymes rings. At the behest of a homeopathic doctor, I treated myself with Colloidal Silver, Goldenseal Root and Echinecea (sp?) tea. I also treated the bites themselves with wetpacks of CS. I never developed Lymes. My little 7-lb. dog was also covered with ticks, and I gave her Colloidal Silver also -- seems to me she got 1/4 cup CS twice a day by dropper. I didn't know at the time that I could simply put CS in her water bowl. She was fine too.MA
Re: CSCS over dose / Gray Face
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 07:39:16 EST, marmar...@aol.com wrote in 222.88412d2.31305...@aol.com: In a message dated 2/24/2006 6:34:19 AM Central Standard Time, hb...@sgmt.at writes: So, did the Lyme disease develop or was the CS able to fend it off? I don't know if Marshall was successful or not, but several years ago I managed to get into a nest of ticks and out of twenty or so tick bites, four had Lymes rings. At the behest of a homeopathic doctor, I treated myself with Colloidal Silver, Goldenseal Root and Echinecea (sp?) tea. I also treated the bites themselves with wetpacks of CS. I never developed Lymes. My little 7-lb. dog was also covered with ticks, and I gave her Colloidal Silver also -- seems to me she got 1/4 cup CS twice a day by dropper. I didn't know at the time that I could simply put CS in her water bowl. She was fine too.MA Wild adventure. Wow! Heidrun Beer Workgroup for Fundamental Spiritual Research and Mental Training http://www.sgmt.at -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS over dose / Gray Face
If silver is excreted at ,say, 94 -99 % in 48 hours and you don't give it 48 hours before re-dosing, more will accumulate, most of which will wait for that window. What eventually happens to that 1 to 6% is never discussed and may eventually build up to the minimum retained level of 4 grams that can produce Agyria. [Even though 12 grams retained usually doesn't produce Agyria] Recall that all the Agyria tests were done with several CCs at thousands of PPM injected over a short period of time and normal elimination rates were totally swamped out and not considered at all...and even then, they have trouble producing the condition. They don't say why that's so, but Selenium is closely linked to all metals accumulation. Could it be that the only people who CAN turn blue are those with abnormal Selenium levels? At low concentrations in the under 20 PPM range where the quantity of water limits the amount of silver consumed... it could take 150 years to go Smurf even if you don't give it that 48 hours and drink CS instead of water daily for years on end. At 5 PPM, that could take 600 years? Just guessing there to make a point, but someone who can do spread sheets might could figure out the absolute worst case actual times and numbers based on retention rates as related to concentrations and a max of 4 gallons of water a day. Most people only drink a couple of quarts of water a day..if that. On that note, it was shown a while back that the average CS user consumes less silver than the EPA currently deems safe in drinking water. [Of course, this isn't about the average CS user..it's about worst case.] Then, taking 2 days off messes it all up and some 'forms' of silver don't act like other forms. Some forms may actually prevent accumulation in cells. No official distinctions have been made in any study...none. Here's another thought: If you completely replace every cell in your body every 7 years [skin cells, a lot faster]...does a cell that has retained silver transfer it to it's replacement somehow? Cell division might transfer 50%? ..or is there an osmosis filtration and/or scavenging mechanism that protects new cells? I don't think human cells just get twice as big then divide like single celled organisms do. Budding perhaps? ...could be part of what happens to that 1 to 4%. Why is Rosemary Jacobs face patchy looking? She had dermal abrasion done. [and she didn't use CS as we define it.] So, is permanent being defined as +/-14 years? Heck, I dunno...food for thought. Personally, I'm not at all worried. Ode At 10:51 AM 2/23/2006 -0500, you wrote: Carol Ann wrote: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: I'd say that the several of our members reporting bluish nail beds are among our senior participants and probably have inherited that from the early experiments we all did when we didn't know any better how to make this stuff and how much to take. I know I've taken a lot more in the past than I'd ever take now. Hi Mike, Your statement about senior members bluish nails beg the question. and in a way contradicts previous statements (not necessarily your) that Silver does not stay in the body for great lengths of time. Such a statement implies also a consistent build up, with not enough exiting in proportion to what is being taken in. Any thoughts? Carol Ann I am not convinced that it is that at all. I took CS for years, 2 ounces of 5 ppm every day and never got any blue nail beds. Then I got bitten by a tick, got the Lyme circle around it and got terrified and drunk about half a gallon of CS for about 3 weeks. That is when I got the blue nail beds, which have not gotten any better or worse since that time. I think what happens is that the body disposes of silver by several methods, the majority of which is by the kidneys, liver and sweat. But it also disposes of it by putting it into the hair and nails, so even though the silver would have left the body eventually anyway, some does get trapped in the hair and nail growth. I have given some thought as to why the nail beds turn blue in the moons, and do not appear to grow out. Apparently the body concentrates excess metals at the point of hair/nail growth so they can get transferred to the nail or hair, but with heavy concentrations, some will aggregate and get stuck in the tissues and never make it into the nail itself, which apparently never has that problem and does not turn blue. This is only a hypothesis, and if a better explanation comes along lets take a look at it. I am not certain if photoexposure is a part of this or not considering that toenails seem to be immune to this effect. I do know that mine occurred in the summer when I was working outside, but could just be a coincidence since that would be the only time I would get a tick. Marshall No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database:
Re: CSFwd: [EM-health] Our DNA
It is one of the long standing principles upon which Cranio-Sacral Therapy is based. That tissue retains memory. From practical hands on experience, as a practicioner, I can tell you that it does. . Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Actually I had seen things on this on the television, and don't think I ever read anything on the net. However, a little googling and I found these relevent urls: http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/CellularMemories.html http://www.med.unc.edu/wellness/main/links/cellular%20memory.htm http://www.hinduismtoday.com/archives/2005/7-9/32-33_medicine.shtml http://ellisctaylor.homestead.com/cellularmemory.html http://www.montgomerycollege.edu/Departments/StudentJournal/volume2/kate.pdf And this is an interesting article on the metaphysical aspects and the possibility of taking on karma both ways: http://www.beyondtheveil.net/organs.html Marshall Jonathan B. Britten wrote: Marshall San, This is an extraordinary comment! I would very much like to read more about this, and would be glad for any URLs that provide factual information about the topic.I have never heard anything about this until now. Thanks in advance. JBB On Thursday, Feb 23, 2006, at 01:45 Asia/Tokyo, Marshall Dudley wrote: Consider that when a person receives an organ transplant, they will often feel the emotions, likes and dislikes of the doner until the tissue can change it's emotional attachments. Researchers were shocked when this first became apparent -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.
Re: CSCS article
At 12:39 PM 2/23/2006 -0500, you wrote: In a message dated 2/23/06 10:48:39 AM Central Standard Time, odecoy...@alltel.net writes: 16 Ounces is two cups. Three times a day equals 6 cups, not 18 gallons.MA ## That's 6 cups of water at 450 PPM Now adjust that to 20 PPM for 135 cups a day [OK, 8.4 gallons ?]...then the more common 10 PPM [16.8 gallons] and 5 PPM. [33.7 gallons] Yeah -- Marshall already explain to me the error of my ways. lol Sorry Ode -- I didn't pick up that you were converting!MA ## I still did it wrong though. So much for math skills, ey? [wink] Ode -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.0.0 - Release Date: 2/23/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFwd: [EM-health] Our DNA
D.A.: Body parts case like 'cheap horror movie'Four men charged in grisly scheme to sell human tissue for transplantshttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11523641 ...The indictment was the first set of charges to come out of a widening scandal involving scores of funeral homes and hundreds of bodies, including that of âMasterpiece Theatreâ host Alistair Cooke, who died in 2004. The investigation has raised fears that some of the body parts could spread disease to transplant recipients. Prosecutors said the body parts were sold to tissue suppliers and ultimately used in disk replacements, knee operations, dental implants and a variety of other surgical procedures performed by unsuspecting doctors across the United States and in Canada. Interesting. I wonder if some of the body's immune system is energy based, where pathogen's energy is read and recognized as foreign. That would explain why some people are still able to take on and eliminate viruses that change their protein coat rapidly to avoid normal immune responses. Marshall Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.
Re: CSSolar Process
This method is depending on the ultraviolet in the sunlight to reduce the silver compounds, causing them to become either colloid or precipitate out leaving only colloidal silver. Interesting idea, but one should make sure and not use glass containers for this since glass blocks uv rays. Quartz glass or clear plastic should be ok though. Marshall Jonathan B. Britten wrote: If this is correct, it might have a useful emergency application: one could make large quantities of EIS using any available water source, put the product in clear containers, leave the containers in the sun, and carefully decant the EIS after several days. BTW, the sunlight method alone can purify contaminated water in 48 hours, or so I read. JBB On Friday, Feb 24, 2006, at 01:39 Asia/Tokyo, Marshall Dudley wrote: They have it backwards, sunlight reduces (deoxidizes) silver compounds to produce silver particles. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS over dose / Gray Face
Heidrun Beer wrote: On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:51:27 -0500, Marshall Dudley wrote in 43fdd9fe.dc09e...@king-cart.com: I am not convinced that it is that at all. I took CS for years, 2 ounces of 5 ppm every day and never got any blue nail beds. Then I got bitten by a tick, got the Lyme circle around it and got terrified and drunk about half a gallon of CS for about 3 weeks. So, did the Lyme disease develop or was the CS able to fend it off? No it was stopped cold in its tracks. After my previous bout with Lyme disease where the doctor refused to believe I had it and refused to treat it for over a year, and it took me 13 years and over $6,000 of IV antibiotics to recover, I wasn't taking any chances. Doctor's way, chronically ill for 1 1/2 years, over $7,000 in medical bills, and 13 years to recover. Alternative way, never got sick, and cost of about $4.00 in distilled water. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS article
At 01:01 PM 2/23/2006 -0500, you wrote: When I first started checking into all this about a month ago. I was confused about a lot of things. I am thankful for this site. One company that is selling so called CS is claiming that you need 5000ppm to treat severe chronic illesses. (Which I have, Lyme Disease) They claim to sell this and even say that they offer 10,000 ppm, but can only be purchased by a physician. Anybody know what I'm talking about? Heidi Sounds like an ad for [MSP] Mild Silver Protein from http://www.invive.com/. MSP is the stuff that sometimes has mold and bacterium growing in it. This is possible because the protein stabilizer coats the silver and protects the contaminants from contact...and also why it takes so much of it to do anything. They talk of Pharmaceutical Grade, but CS has never been in an official pharmacopeia and no doctor I know of is prescribing it in any form from any source. [Whispered asides? Maybe.] Are they still recommending a 20 PPM concentration in the 'bloodstream' when 20 Parts Per Billion [available silver] will sterilize sewer water? Yup If the solution is not at least500 p.p.m. you will not be able to achieve a 2 p.p.m. to 20 p.p.m. concentration of silver in the bloodstream to address most common pathogens, let alone the current mutated pathogens. ..sounds really dangerous. I'm amazed they're still around. Unless...[conspiracy ahead] Invive is being protected in order to produce some negative press down the road. CS is not a grandfathered item as a drug which is defined , by the FDA, as something that cures or treats a disease. It can only be sold as a supplement. The FDA has made that pretty clear. In the copy, Invive makes blatant cure claims complete with dosage regimes, then discounts them in the disclaimer as well as saying they aren't allowed to do what they did. There have been numerous websites that haven't gotten away with that, sometimes even getting the letter demanding removal of links to mere testimonials. I like this... [doubletalk] The product falls within the guidelines as they existed before the 1938 Federal Regulatory take-over of our food and drug supply. Therefore we can distribute THIS pre 1938 ORIGINAL FORMULA without FDA new drug approval, in order to make this powerful completely non toxic mild silver protein formulation available to the people of America as a dietary supplement. So, now we can sell this drug as a supplement. But, NOTHING was classified as a drug, or not a drug, before 1938. Cocaine, heroin, arsenic and mercury compounds were in the same catalogue and everything was sold over the counter. Many of the statements concerning ionic silver [even silver chloride] are, simply putpatently untrue. [Silver chloride does kill germs, just not very well in comparison.] Ionic silver precipitates out ??? Ionic silver is toxic ??? [surprise surprise] [Not that many things claimed by ionic silver sellers ARE true, or ionic silver is being properly or clearly defined as it really is, or that the whole truth is even known.] If ions can clump and settle, they aren't ions. If what they say about the purity of silver bullion is true, where do they get different silver that's more pure than the 4 nines that many home generator people use? Even at 3 nines, the contaminants added to distilled water are far far...far... less than that in average tap water or one bite of food. You probably get more stray metals from breathing. ..too much BS to even sort it all out. I've known people who switched from MSP to ionic cheap home brew and washed their moldy shower curtains with the high dollar store bought. [They didn't say if that worked or not, just that they decided the pricey store bought MSP wasn't fit to use on themselves.] Ode -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.0.0 - Release Date: 2/23/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS
Been there done that too. Same Dr. Office (purple) Same Microdyn, same price. My Dr. bill only $80.00 both times. Good for you. tel tofflemire Dewey, AZ --- brick...@aol.com wrote: Made a trip to Mexico, Los Algodones. I tried the purple drug store, Liqui's, and bought 15 ml bottles of Microdyn for $1.35 per bottle. Bottle says use 8 drops per liter of H2O, and wait 10 minutes before drinking. Girls in drug store asked if Microdyn is used to purify water. Getting some dental work done, Palm Springs dentist wanted $3200.00, Mexican dentist is asking about $1200.00. I can use the difference to stay in a Yuma motel and still save money. Tried some Nopales cactus with salsa. DR said it is good for insulin resistant types like me. Brickey Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS over dose / Gray Face
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 10:21:40 -0500, Marshall Dudley wrote in 43ff2484.86670...@king-cart.com: Heidrun Beer wrote: On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:51:27 -0500, Marshall Dudley wrote in 43fdd9fe.dc09e...@king-cart.com: I am not convinced that it is that at all. I took CS for years, 2 ounces of 5 ppm every day and never got any blue nail beds. Then I got bitten by a tick, got the Lyme circle around it and got terrified and drunk about half a gallon of CS for about 3 weeks. So, did the Lyme disease develop or was the CS able to fend it off? No it was stopped cold in its tracks. After my previous bout with Lyme disease where the doctor refused to believe I had it and refused to treat it for over a year, and it took me 13 years and over $6,000 of IV antibiotics to recover, I wasn't taking any chances. Doctor's way, chronically ill for 1 1/2 years, over $7,000 in medical bills, and 13 years to recover. Alternative way, never got sick, and cost of about $4.00 in distilled water. Marshall Incredible! Heidrun Beer Workgroup for Fundamental Spiritual Research and Mental Training http://www.sgmt.at -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS over dose / Gray Face
In a message dated 2/24/06 8:00:30 AM Central Standard Time, hb...@sgmt.at writes: Wild adventure. Wow! ***Too wild for me -- I'm never going to Virginia again MA
CSsection on argyria
I have added a section on argyria to my theory page at http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html#Argyria If anyone finds any errors, either in the theory or spelling/English, please let me know. Thanks, Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS over dose / Gray Face
In a message dated 2/24/06 9:22:55 AM Central Standard Time, mdud...@king-cart.com writes: Doctor's way, chronically ill for 1 1/2 years, over $7,000 in medical bills, and 13 years to recover. Alternative way, never got sick, and cost of about $4.00 in distilled water. ***Amazing, isn't it? MA
RE: CSCS over dose / Gray Face
I read years ago of Russian studies with blind people who were demonstrated to be able to sense the colors of things with their fingertips. -Original Message- From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 7:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS over dose / Gray Face Japanese television last night showed a man from Thailand who supposedly rides a motorcycle with his eyes covered. He claims to be able to see with his hands. In the studio, wearing a blindfold, he supposedly correctly distinguished yellow balloons from other colors, by placing his hands near the balloons.I have no idea whether or not the producers of the popular show, Unbelievable were conned. Most of the show provided credible information about chi gong energy. On Thursday, Feb 23, 2006, at 23:20 Asia/Tokyo, Ode Coyote wrote: This guy was flying in the dark with his eyes closed sitting in a rocket with no guidance systems. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS comparisons [calling all Lymies]
Natural Immunogenics silver is exactly what ASAP solution from American Biotech is. is exactly what well made home brew is. [Silver Hydrosol ...to use a coined term] They make it like much you can make it and it all contains both ionic and metallic silver in various ratios. American Biotech, in fact, once used off the shelf home generators to make their product. [and not really good ones at that] Their innovation was to add a stirring paddle and to crow about now virtually untrackable patents that, if finally found, turn out to be meaningless. Their particle sizing methods are questionable. [As are their definitions of what a particle is] I just now found this and it's just like logic predicts...thank you Frank...I've said the same thing in a much more opaque way. [You made it 'clear'] http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/TEM.html What else? http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/AboutParticleSize.html [Dang Frank!! busy fellow! Whew! At LAST!] That they are both out to sell silver water with exaggerations, is not questionable...but it is good stuff. [Just not significantly different stuff.] This is a very good resource for comparisons... http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html If you want a more 'small particulate metallic silver' without the protein binders/stabilizers, go with Frank Keys Sovereign Silver. Some people swear by it, some at it and I have no opinion one way or the other except that home brew has some of both ends of the 'which is better' debate included and a few other things that aren't well known to exist. [Not better doesn't mean doesn't work] It's been a long and convoluted debate with no conclusions in sight. [wink] There's no doubt in my mind that very fresh home brew has properties that the same thing that's 24 hours old doesn't and THAT is easily proven with hydrogen peroxide reaction observations. [Better? I dunno. I think so with some observations to maybe back it up. Different? yes... No proof of better. ] But it's not something you can buy. [shelf life is way too short] Don't worry and try a few things out. There have been successes dealing with Lymes. C'mon Lyme'ies speak up! I know ya'll are out there with some real experience! PS. Most doctors only know what's in literature that's stuck under their noses and tend to believe what they're told. They don't have the legal leeway to experiment and discover like normal folks do. MDs don't often forge scalpels..they generally hang onto the handle of the cutting edge. Ode At 01:12 PM 2/23/2006 -0500, you wrote: Mike. Thanks for the explanation. I do have a question on dose of homemade silver. In the past I was taking a silver hydrosol by Natural Immunogenics which was a clear silver and was a reputable source with independent lab assays.I was told the particle size was in nanometers and could only be produced in the lab and therefore safer, more consistant and more efficient. I was told by Stephen Quinto (the president of the company) that homemade produces much larger particles, requiring much more to be consumed with larger risk for agyria.I was informed that 16oz. of homemade silver equals approximately 1 Tb.of Argentum 23 (ppm). I took 4 Tb/d which was the maximum suggested for 2 months. I had no improvements in the chronic lyme which invaded my scalp muscle and has affected my entire musculoskeletal and circulatory system. I know now I need a multiple approach but am concerned how much homemade silver is adequate for a chronic deep illness based on the info I was given.At the conversion rate I was given it means taking 1 gallon/d to equal the efficiency of the lab produced version. A medical doctor actually told me if I was his patient he'd be giving me 10,000ppm of mild silver prtotein at 16oz./d of Invive silver. He told me you need to have a high level sustained in the blood to be effective and reach muscles and tendons. I did not attempt that protocol. I was also informed about the Argentum IV silver( the only one approved ) but can not afford it.Let me know your thoughts. Thank you for sharing. Blessings, Georgia No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.0.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.0.0 - Release Date: 2/23/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe:Since everyone who stands on the ground barefoot
I prefer to tune into the comedy channel when barefoot. I have a steel hat for the commercials. ..and it looks so funny that it can stand in for the stand ups when I can't tune in. ;-) Ode At 08:03 PM 2/23/2006 -0400, you wrote: Thanks Ode - now I understand why I have such highs and lows - life is truly wonderful Regards Sandee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.0.0/267 - Release Date: 2/22/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.0.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.0.0 - Release Date: 2/23/2006
Re: CSRe: Townsend Letter
Hi Sandee, Dr. McDonagh of the McDonagh Medical Center, a friend of mine sent me a copy in the postal mail. I have never been to the web site so I can't help, but I will try. Ole Bob Sandee George oha...@juno.com wrote: Hi There Ole Bob - I just went to the site and see the article you are talking about but cannot access it - what am I not doing ? Regards Sandee
CSHarold's Diet
In a message dated 2/21/06 4:34:39 PM Central Standard Time, har...@telus.net writes: Basically what I did was a complete change from the western diet Hi Harold. Thanks for responding. Wow -- you sure did make a complete change. I marvel at that! Not sure that I could do it, but I sure admire you for doing so. Good health to you, and thanks for answering in such detail.MA
CSMarshalls site
Hello Marshall. On your site you say some people who have taken large amounts of IES have reported blueing of the moons of their fingernails May I suggest that you try and put a figure on what you mean by 'large'. Newcomers who havent followed this topic may think that large means a couple of ounces a day for a week or two. Regards David Subject: CSsection on argyria From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:52:46 -0500 To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com I have added a section on argyria to my theory page at http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html#Argyria If anyone finds any errors, either in the theory or spelling/English, please let me know. Thanks, Marshall
CSRe: Silverprotects
It's rather ironic that 'Silverprotects' has a cure for argyria. Well he should know. He still advises people to put salt in the water to speed up the process and produce silver chloride. http://flowerpowergenerator.com/page2.html#start David Subject: CSsection on argyria From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:52:46 -0500 To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com I have added a section on argyria to my theory page at http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html#Argyria If anyone finds any errors, either in the theory or spelling/English, please let me know. Thanks, Marshall
Re: CSMarshalls site
Good idea, I will change that. Marshall alchemySA wrote: Hello Marshall. On your site you say some people who have taken large amounts of IES have reported blueing of the moons of their fingernails May I suggest that you try and put a figure on what you mean by 'large'. Newcomers who havent followed this topic may think that large means a couple of ounces a day for a week or two. Regards David Subject: CSsection on argyria From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:52:46 -0500 To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com I have added a section on argyria to my theory page at http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html#Argyria If anyone finds any errors, either in the theory or spelling/English, please let me know. Thanks, Marshall
CSFw: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Rick--I see the light!
This is an excerpt from a post made on a site dedicated to a cancer cure. It is my understanding that EIS is effective for it. But before I shot my mouth off,I thought it best that I get the opinions of the heavyweights on this list. The list moderator has peripheral vision when it comes to recognizing that there is anything of any value but the protocol that the site was set up for. But before this fellows reign, there was flexibility in what could be discussed. In fact, it was a member of that list, Mike Cinneli, that touted me on to this list. Thank you, Mike, wherever you are. A few days ago someone asked how they could extend the life of cottage cheese. I told them about adding a little EIS. The moderator replied that he was sure that it would interfere with their protocol. I'm not sure what gave me my recovery from NHL after I had been given 2 years to live. This was 6 years ago this coming June. But I went on Retuxan, flax oil/cottage cheese protocol, and lots of EIS at the same time. Bob Smith Interestingly the Staphylococcus Aureus (Staph germ) can't be conquered by antibiotics - causing many scientists (after many decades of denial) to admit to the validity of pleomorphism. Staph was only doing a 'clean-up' job and nothing man made is going to get in the way. I see some hope for man to realize the correct paradigm and overrule the pharmaceutical companies promotion of the 'Germ Theory' for profits.
CSintroductory article CS
Hi CS Forum-friends! I was dashing through the messages, and found a question coming up: Clients often ask me about CS .. the origin .. who thought it out .. history .. them kinda things see? What I'd like to ask is: Does a kind of introductory article exist? Can anyone send me the data of the article, or send it to me, so that I can keep it for reference to clients? (send to faithstfran...@interneeds.net please) Thanks in advance, and I'll be going on and on. Faith St Francis. _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSintroductory article CS
Hi Faith, Hope you and all your loved ones are doing well this NEW Year! Marshall Dudley has a very informative page you'llo want to save share regarding history of CS: http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html#Argyria After reading, Marshall invites anyone to correct words or spelling or suggest additions. More later--Best regards. Sincerely, ___ Richard Harris, 58 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 http://www.rharrisinc.com http://www.seasilver.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: Faith Saint Francis [mailto:faithstfran...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 9:43 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSintroductory article CS Hi CS Forum-friends! I was dashing through the messages, and found a question coming up: Clients often ask me about CS .. the origin .. who thought it out .. history .. them kinda things see? What I'd like to ask is: Does a kind of introductory article exist? Can anyone send me the data of the article, or send it to me, so that I can keep it for reference to clients? (send to faithstfran...@interneeds.net please) Thanks in advance, and I'll be going on and on. Faith St Francis. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Townsend Letter
From: Sandee George oha...@juno.com Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 7:17 PM Thanks Ole Bob if you can find the article on the website please let me know as mention is definitely there of it's existence however I cannot find where one can access it - Take good care Would this help? http://www.townsendletter.com/FebMar2006/lyme0206.htm Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Townsend Letter
thanks to the link to the Townsendletter I thought you had to subscribe to get into the archives...deb starshar stars...@comcast.net wrote: From: Sandee George Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 7:17 PM Thanks Ole Bob if you can find the article on the website please let me know as mention is definitely there of it's existence however I cannot find where one can access it - Take good care Would this help? http://www.townsendletter.com/FebMar2006/lyme0206.htm Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSCS comparisons [calling all Lymies]
Parasites Parasites are finally being recognized as the main cause for many undiagnosed diseases. There are more than 130 different kinds of parasites that use the human body as their host. They range in size from microscopic to single and multi-celled worms. The symptoms that can occur through an infection with fungi or parasites are frequently identical to those of a bacterial or viral infection. This gives rise to false diagnoses time and again, resulting in ineffective treatments. Parasites are one of the primary underlying causes for diseases and are the most basic cause for a compromised immune system. Experts now consider parasites as the missing diagnoses in the genesis of many chronic health problems. They call it a silent epidemic, of which most doctors are not aware. Yet, its recognition will finally solve the mystery of many chronic diseases. In 1976, the Center for Disease Control (CDC) in America conducted the first and so far only nationwide survey on the infestation of parasites in the entire population. It is revealed that 1 in every 6 people was harboring 1 or more types of parasites. In some cases the estimate goes as high as 8 out of 10 patients being infected. According to other estimations, half of all Americans will become hosts to parasites at one point in their lives. The increases in infestations are due to increased international travel, immigration and the importation of foods including fruits and vegetables from overseas and infected water. Grapefruit seed extract is an extremely effective meat, fruit and vegetable wash. Today parasites are becoming more of a threat than in the past due to the importation of more and more products from overseas. See: Fruit, meat vegetable wash. Other factors are the growing popularity of exotic restaurants that serve raw or undercooked dishes. Parasites can gain entrance into the body in a wide variety of ways. Through the foods we eat such as produce, undercooked meats and infected water. Even the air we breathe can carry microscopic parasites and fungi. Pets are hosts to numerous parasites. Dogs can transmit 65 and cats about 40 contagious diseases to human beings. Most invaders live in the digestive tract. Closely followed by the blood and lymphatic systems. Those who live in the intestines frequently cause digestive problems like flatulence; gas, constipation or diarrhea. They are capable of producing a condition of malnutrition with the result of fatigue, apathy, depression, lack of concentration, poor memory and much more. Furthermore parasites can irritate, inflame and perforate the intestinal lining. Perforation increases the permeability of the intestinal walls and large undigested molecules can pass into the blood stream. This results in food allergies. Thus allowing parasites to gain entrance into the blood stream. Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. - Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail.
Re: CSCS comparisons [calling all Lymies]
Beyond the intestines, parasites can settle in the joints and muscles, form cysts and create inflammations, the resulting pain is often attributed to arthritis. Parasites can even travel into the brain. They can form granulomes in the lungs, liver, uterus or other organs. Their toxic metabolic products can attack the central nervous system. Restlessness, depression, anxiety, hypertension and fatigue are often the results. If parasites penetrate the skin they often cause rashes, eczema, swelling, papular lesions, skin ulcers or itching dermatitis. Grapefruit seed extract eliminates various types of microorganisms and parasites at the same time. Parasites can apparently represent a co-factor in the development of AIDS. Researchers at the University of Virginia School of Medicine were able to draw a connection between an epidemic outbreak of amebiasis 2 years prior to the AIDS outbreak in San Francisco. Amoebas produce a substance that ruptures the immune defense cells that enclose and deactivate the HIV virus. Once discharged into the bloodstream, the virus can reproduce unhindered and develop their deadly potential. The presence of any type of parasite (either single or multi cell) leads to an enormous weakening of the immune system. Various parasites such as Giardia lamblia (a water born parasite) reduce the secretion of immunoglobulin A and thereby depress the smooth functioning of our immune system. At the same time, the presence of parasites continuously activates the immune response. This constant pulling on both ends over time exhaust our defense system, which is so essential to life. Infestation is difficult to diagnose. Random stool examinations used by most doctors have proved to be insufficient and unreliable. On the basis of false negative results, most doctors rule out parasites as the fundamental cause of a disease. The symptoms of infestation do not always manifest themselves immediately after infestation. In many cases, they only appear after days or months have passed. Grapefruit Seed Extract and Protozoan InfectionsLouis Parish, M.D., investigator for the department of health and human services, Public Health Service, Food and Drug Administration, reported in his prospectus for the FDA that grapefruit seed extract is ...as effective as any other preparation now available, perhaps more effective ... it does not cause the side effects. For intestinal problems, including dysentery he believes that grapefruit seed extract, Gives more symptomatic relief than any other treatment. Nearly 200 patients were treated for Entamoeba histolytica and giardia lamblia by Dr. Parish and his associates over a two month period. Dr. Parish went on to say it (grapefruit seed extract) gives symptomatic relief more than any other product. It would be hard to overstate the value of grapefruit seed extract to my medical practice. It has no inherent toxicity. Grapefruit seed extract is a multipurpose (broad spectrum) compound that is currently being used in humans and animals alike to safely fight many types of internal and external infections caused from parasites (single and multi-celled), viruses, bacteria and fungi. Grapefruit seed extracts biggest benefit is due to it's multipurpose (broad spectrum) effect. It is effective even if the causes of the infections are known, unknown or misdiagnosed. By eliminating a wide range of dangerous pathogens grapefruit seed extract actually enhances the immune system! Grapefruit seed extract is effective at very low concentrations. During 1989-90, an international research team (reported in the Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine, Volume 5, No. 3, USA, 1990) examined the effects of GSE and compared this with 30 effective antibiotics and 18 proven fungicides. GSE was found to perform as well as any and all of the tested agents. Grapefruit Seed Extract Parasites: For internal uses mix (?) drops in 1- cup water or juice 2-3 times daily. If you have a sensitive stomach take after meals. Until stomach adjusts to the extract and then you can take it independent of meals. e Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net wrote: Don't worry and try a few things out. There have been successes dealing with Lymes. PS. Most doctors only know what's in literature that's stuck under their noses and tend to believe what they're told. They don't have the legal leeway to experiment and discover like normal folks do. MDs don't often forge scalpels..they generally hang onto the handle of the cutting edge. Carol Ann ___ The Pessimist complains about the Wind; The Optimist expects it to change; The Realist adjusts the Sails. - The world needs more sailors. - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.
CSRe: Bulk CS
I have a friend who wants to make CS on a large scale, I know that there is a ratio between the wetted area of the electrodes to the DC current applied. Anyone help? John in Australia
CSRe: Bulk CS
Return Receipt Your CSRe: Bulk CS document: wasChin Seong LIM/IDA/SINGOV received by: at:02/25/2006 14:28:34 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
