RE: CSSilver safety
Excellent. -Original Message- From: Terry Chamberlin [mailto:tcj...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 9:10 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSSilver safety I feel the need to comment on some of the discussion currently happening. One of the miracles of CS is that it is so safe, yet so effective. So when folks mention the possibility of silver joining to other substances/minerals and forming some kind of compound, it seems important to me to keep our perspective, especially for the sake of the new folks who don't yet know enough to have adequate perspective. 1. Silver in ANY form is lethal to most pathogens. It's been clearly substantiated in laboratory testing that silver-chloride kills pathogens. So does silver-nitrate, silver-citrate, etc. So the concern about silver forming various compounds with substances in our water, filter paper, etc., are unrelated to the effectiveness of CS. 2. Argyria. Yes, silver compounds of various types have been shown to have the potential to cause argyria, the only known danger to silver abuse, but only when ingested/inhaled in VERY LARGE quantities, quantities difficult or even impossible for us to ingest (we don't inhale), given the type of CS we produce (10-20 ppm). Even some of the conservative gov't estimates of the amount of silver needed to possibly cause argyria require a daily ingestion of GALLONS of 20 ppm CS. Yet I see people afraid to drink too much CS when it's not even possible with our home-brewed, extremely dilute versions. Keep in mind, folks, silver is just a mineral, and CS is mineral water. It's not a drug or toxic chemical that you must be careful about. You never see anyone afraid to drink too much Perrier water because of the minerals in it, in fact, they drink it to GET the minerals in it. But Perrier or other Spring water products have far higher levels of the minerals that are in them than we have silver in what we brew. Our concern over the interaction of silver with other minerals/substances (forming compounds, etc.) is also true about every other mineral as well. Are we concerned about the possibility of calcium or zinc or iron forming compounds with other minerals or being affected by our stomach acid? They all do the same thing silver does, you know. But we correctly assume our body knows how to process the minerals we ingest and utilize them where/as they are needed. The same is true of the mineral silver. I've found two doctors in the US who insist that silver is an essential mineral that our bodies NEED, just like iron or selenium, and that a deficiency of silver contributes to poor health. CS should be treated like a supplement, not like a medicine. I have drunk 12+ oz/day of 15-20 ppm CS for six years now, and apart from a hint of blue under the base of my fingernails (it was always darker there anyway, and the 'blue' comes and goes), the only affect of generous ingestion of CS is very rare sickness in my family. My daughters also ingest generous quantities of CS every day because I put CS in everything it's possible to put it in - soup, juice, milk, coffee, herbal tea, any recipe that calls for liquid (but no yeast), even the ice cubes for our summer drinks. How often does anyone in my family get sick? Maybe once per year, if that much. Being a purist about CS production is fine, as long as one doesn't come to the conclusion that one needs to be a purist in order for CS to be safe or effective. I am a purist myself, in that I only make crystal clear CS, but that is because I sell it to HF stores, pharmacies and the general public, and my trade-mark is crystal clear CS. Periodically I goof and brew a 10-gallon batch of yellow/gold CS. My family and I drink that stuff, and save the clear stuff to sell. I have used Oxygen-purified coffee filters for six years now, because if I don't there are occasionally bits of black silver-oxide floating around in the water. I personally don't mind the specks because I know they are harmless, but the general public objects to black specks in their CS. Is it possible for the silver to form compounds with substances in the coffee filter paper? Yep. Is it possible to get argyria from those compounds? Yes, but not before I had already killed myself from too much water. Are these potential compounds less effective than pure silver? Not that I am aware of. Silver does what silver does, whether accompanied by other minerals or not. And when you consider that we are putting the silver into a stomach that is already full of many, many other minerals (stomach acid, food minerals, etc.), it seems a bit silly to me to be concerned too much about tiny bits of this and that. The only substances I would be concerned about mixing silver with would be those that I would be concerned about putting in my body in the first place, i.e., toxins and poisons. This stuff is safe, folks, you don't need to be careful with it. OK, don't brew coffee-colored CS and drink a pint of that each day for
RE: CSSilver safety
Your usual Execellent Useful Information, Terry! Many thanks! I'm sending it to all my CS users to help them improve their knowledge. Sincerely, _ Richard Harris, 59 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 http://www.rharrisinc.com http://www.seasilver.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: Terry Chamberlin [mailto:tcj...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 11:10 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSSilver safety -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver safety
Once again, Terry, I applaud your enthusiasm and knowledge. May you continue always to tell us all how important CS is. Without your input a lot of us would not truly know. Thanks. Scott Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca wrote: I feel the need to comment on some of the discussion currently happening. One of the miracles of CS is that it is so safe, yet so effective. So when folks mention the possibility of silver joining to other substances/minerals and forming some kind of compound, it seems important to me to keep our perspective, especially for the sake of the new folks who dont yet know enough to have adequate perspective. 1. Silver in ANY form is lethal to most pathogens. Its been clearly substantiated in laboratory testing that silver-chloride kills pathogens. So does silver-nitrate, silver-citrate, etc. So the concern about silver forming various compounds with substances in our water, filter paper, etc., are unrelated to the effectiveness of CS. 2. Argyria. Yes, silver compounds of various types have been shown to have the potential to cause argyria, the only known danger to silver abuse, but only when ingested/inhaled in VERY LARGE quantities, quantities difficult or even impossible for us to ingest (we dont inhale), given the type of CS we produce (10-20 ppm). Even some of the conservative govt estimates of the amount of silver needed to possibly cause argyria require a daily ingestion of GALLONS of 20 ppm CS. Yet I see people afraid to drink too much CS when its not even possible with our home-brewed, extremely dilute versions. Keep in mind, folks, silver is just a mineral, and CS is mineral water. Its not a drug or toxic chemical that you must be careful about. You never see anyone afraid to drink too much Perrier water because of the minerals in it, in fact, they drink it to GET the minerals in it. But Perrier or other Spring water products have far higher levels of the minerals that are in them than we have silver in what we brew. Our concern over the interaction of silver with other minerals/substances (forming compounds, etc.) is also true about every other mineral as well. Are we concerned about the possibility of calcium or zinc or iron forming compounds with other minerals or being affected by our stomach acid? They all do the same thing silver does, you know. But we correctly assume our body knows how to process the minerals we ingest and utilize them where/as they are needed. The same is true of the mineral silver. Ive found two doctors in the US who insist that silver is an essential mineral that our bodies NEED, just like iron or selenium, and that a deficiency of silver contributes to poor health. CS should be treated like a supplement, not like a medicine. I have drunk 12+ oz/day of 15-20 ppm CS for six years now, and apart from a hint of blue under the base of my fingernails (it was always darker there anyway, and the blue comes and goes), the only affect of generous ingestion of CS is very rare sickness in my family. My daughters also ingest generous quantities of CS every day because I put CS in everything its possible to put it in soup, juice, milk, coffee, herbal tea, any recipe that calls for liquid (but no yeast), even the ice cubes for our summer drinks. How often does anyone in my family get sick? Maybe once per year, if that much. Being a purist about CS production is fine, as long as one doesnt come to the conclusion that one needs to be a purist in order for CS to be safe or effective. I am a purist myself, in that I only make crystal clear CS, but that is because I sell it to HF stores, pharmacies and the general public, and my trade-mark is crystal clear CS. Periodically I goof and brew a 10-gallon batch of yellow/gold CS. My family and I drink that stuff, and save the clear stuff to sell. I have used Oxygen-purified coffee filters for six years now, because if I dont there are occasionally bits of black silver-oxide floating around in the water. I personally dont mind the specks because I know they are harmless, but the general public objects to black specks in their CS. Is it possible for the silver to form compounds with substances in the coffee filter paper? Yep. Is it possible to get argyria from those compounds? Yes, but not before I had already killed myself from too much water. Are these potential compounds less effective than pure silver? Not that I am aware of. Silver does what silver does, whether accompanied by other minerals or not. And when you consider that we are putting the silver into a stomach that is already full of many, many other minerals (stomach acid, food minerals, etc.), it seems a bit silly to me to be concerned too much about tiny bits of this and that. The only substances I would be concerned about mixing silver with would be those that I would be concerned about putting in my body in the first place, i.e., toxins and poisons. This stuff is safe, folks, you dont need to be careful with it. OK,
