Re: [Simh] Project update:

2016-01-04 Thread Johnny Eriksson
Johnny Billquist wrote: > Now, ANF-10 was a network protocol used on some machines way back. I > mostly used it on TOPS-10, but I don't know if some other systems also > supported it. I'm also not entirely sure what physical links were used > in real life, but it appears Bygg have started to g

Re: [Simh] Configuring DMC11 Devices

2016-01-04 Thread Christian Gauger-Cosgrove
On 5 January 2016 at 00:25, Mark Pizzolato wrote: > Thanks for the image and config. > You're quite welcome. > I don't see the " XM4: is missing ECO's, but will still function." > Messages... Can you explain? > There's only one DMR11 and one DMC11 configured. When you boot up, you'll see: sim>

Re: [Simh] Configuring DMC11 Devices

2016-01-04 Thread Mark Pizzolato
Hi Christian, Thanks for the image and config. I don't see the " XM4: is missing ECO's, but will still function." Messages... Can you explain? Thanks. - Mark On Monday, January 4, 2016 at 8:11 PM, Christian wrote: > Forgot to mention: The password for account [1,2] is "operator"; the account

Re: [Simh] Project update:

2016-01-04 Thread Eric Smith
Very cool! Thank you very much, Johnny(s)! Eric kd5uwl > On Jan 4, 2016, at 8:27 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > > (Being the other Johnny here, but anyway...) > > What Bygg appear to be doing is implementing ANF-10 (or at least the > simulated physical links over which ANF-10 can communicate).

Re: [Simh] Configuring DMC11 Devices

2016-01-04 Thread Christian Gauger-Cosgrove
Forgot to mention: The password for account [1,2] is "operator"; the account [1,4] is also created, using [1,2] as a template; it also has the password "operator". And just for clarity's sake: The system has the DECnet address of 11.94, and node name of RSTS10. It knows of two other systems (provi

Re: [Simh] Configuring DMC11 Devices

2016-01-04 Thread Christian Gauger-Cosgrove
On 4 January 2016 at 18:10, Mark Pizzolato wrote: > I still need a RSTS disk image and configuration file which has several > DMC/DMR's > configured and attempts to start the network > I've setup a small RSTS/E 10.1-L system with DECnet; it's kitted out with a DELUA, DMR11, and a DMC11. Here

Re: [Simh] Project update:

2016-01-04 Thread Johnny Billquist
(Being the other Johnny here, but anyway...) What Bygg appear to be doing is implementing ANF-10 (or at least the simulated physical links over which ANF-10 can communicate). Now, ANF-10 was a network protocol used on some machines way back. I mostly used it on TOPS-10, but I don't know if so

Re: [Simh] Project update:

2016-01-04 Thread Eric Smith
Johnny, If it's not too much trouble, would you mind going into a little more detail for the "noobs" following along out here? I'm not _100%_ ignorant .. I was a UNIX admin for 15 years, I have a real VAX (3900) in the garage and fooled around with VMS on it. I've had VMS running in cluster mode

Re: [Simh] Configuring DMC11 Devices

2016-01-04 Thread Mark Pizzolato
On Monday, January 4, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > On Jan 4, 2016, at 2:53 PM, Mark Pizzolato wrote: > > > >> ... > > > > I vaguely remember that something else depends on how it is currently > > implemented. The wait delay was added to accommodate the fact that > > something didn't e

Re: [Simh] Configuring DMC11 Devices

2016-01-04 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2016-01-04 21:05, Paul Koning wrote: On Jan 4, 2016, at 2:53 PM, Mark Pizzolato wrote: ... I vaguely remember that something else depends on how it is currently implemented. The wait delay was added to accommodate the fact that something didn't expect immediate response. A delay of

Re: [Simh] Configuring DMC11 Devices

2016-01-04 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 4, 2016, at 2:53 PM, Mark Pizzolato wrote: > >> ... > > I vaguely remember that something else depends on how it is currently > implemented. The wait delay was added to accommodate the fact that something > didn't expect immediate response. A delay of 1 is essentially the same as n

Re: [Simh] Configuring DMC11 Devices

2016-01-04 Thread Mark Pizzolato
On Monday, January 4, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > It looks like the problems RSTS is having with DMC/DMR is due to > unexpected behavior of the master clear bit. It's documented as self- > clearing, so the driver sets it and then subsequently assumes it will read as > cleared. That isn

Re: [Simh] Configuring DMC11 Devices

2016-01-04 Thread Tom Morris
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Paul Koning wrote: By the way, if I connect a DMC to a DMR, it doesn't come up. Is that > expected? I thought DMC and DMR were sufficiently compatible that it would > work... The DMR had a switch-selectable DMC compatibility mode. Not sure if that's implemente

Re: [Simh] Configuring DMC11 Devices

2016-01-04 Thread Paul Koning
It looks like the problems RSTS is having with DMC/DMR is due to unexpected behavior of the master clear bit. It's documented as self-clearing, so the driver sets it and then subsequently assumes it will read as cleared. That isn't actually happening correctly, at least not if two accesses are

[Simh] Project update:

2016-01-04 Thread Johnny Eriksson
Status update for my little hobby project: I just gave the following command: .net/a/t [ANF10 network: connected to VENUS(10), located at VENUS(10), 3 nodes] NodeODEN(1) 10, 4 NodeLOKE(4) 1 NodeVENUS (10)1 This might look innocent, but: Node

Re: [Simh] Error in DMC11/DMR11 Emulation in RSTS/E 10.1

2016-01-04 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 4, 2016, at 12:34 AM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove > wrote: > > Just an addendum because I think I may not have been too clear: > > On 4 January 2016 at 00:03, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove > wrote: >> Also, this might be more my inexperience, but I can't seem to figure >> out how to get DE

Re: [Simh] Error in DMC11/DMR11 Emulation in RSTS/E 10.1

2016-01-04 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 4, 2016, at 5:09 AM, Mark Pizzolato wrote: > > On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Paul Koning wrote: >> ... >> So attach the device in SIMH before boot, and things will work. > > This is a basic requirement of functionality. Having the DMC/DMR device > "ATTACHED" merely means tha

Re: [Simh] Configuring DMC11 Devices

2016-01-04 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jan 4, 2016, at 4:51 AM, Mark Pizzolato wrote: > > On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Paul Koning wrote: >> ...That is with two DMCs pointing at each other: >> >> sim> show dmc >> DMC lines=2, connectpoll=2, address=17760070-17760107* >> vector=300*, 2 units >> DMC0attac

Re: [Simh] Error in DMC11/DMR11 Emulation in RSTS/E 10.1

2016-01-04 Thread Mark Pizzolato
On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > On Jan 3, 2016, at 6:42 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove > wrote: > > > > On 3 January 2016 at 16:42, Paul Koning wrote: > >> No, that's not what that means. > >> > >> It does say that micro diagnostics are required; when those are disabl

Re: [Simh] Configuring DMC11 Devices

2016-01-04 Thread Mark Pizzolato
On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > On Jan 3, 2016, at 1:46 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove > wrote: > > > > Well, I was attempting it with RSTS/E since the "XM0: is missing > > ECO's, but will still function." error implies that the DMC11 device > > would still function. I

Re: [Simh] Error in DMC11/DMR11 Emulation in RSTS/E 10.1

2016-01-04 Thread Mark Pizzolato
On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 1:43 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > > On Jan 2, 2016, at 5:41 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove > wrote: > > > > As the subject line says, there's an issue with the DMC device under > > RSTS/E 10.1-L. > > > > When starting the system, when it does the hardware scan, the > > fol