Re: [Simh] Muddle compilers? ( was: RE: Crowther's Adventure game)

2018-02-03 Thread Jason Self
Tim Stark wrote .. > I found Muddle in PDP10 project (Github) but still empty repo. > Does anyone plan to put them on yet? I am looking for Muddle > compilers in long time. I have also been looking. About two years ago Rich Alderson said, on this mailing list [0]:

Re: [Simh] PDP for beginners

2018-02-03 Thread Don North
On 2/3/2018 5:11 PM, Zane Healy wrote: On Feb 2, 2018, at 6:25 PM, Pär Moberg wrote: I am looking to put up a PDP-# machine to play with. What machine and OS should I use. I am looking for simple/beginner system, or as beginner it got. Also, not *nix, it is still alive

Re: [Simh] PDP for beginners

2018-02-03 Thread Pär Moberg
On 04/02/2018, Zane Healy wrote: > >> On Feb 2, 2018, at 6:25 PM, Pär Moberg wrote: >> >> I am looking to put up a PDP-# machine to play with. What machine and >> OS should I use. I am looking for simple/beginner system, or as >> beginner it got.

Re: [Simh] VAX Hobbyist Games

2018-02-03 Thread Dan Gahlinger
So can I get any of you to try out Castle and see if you can find any bugs? no one plays text adventures any more... http://trek7.sourceforge.net/files/castle/ Code for Dos/Windows, Linux, and Mac. If there was a halfway decent pascal compiler for Vax, I'd port it there, but I can't even do

[Simh] VAX Hobbyist Games

2018-02-03 Thread Tony Nicholson
I'm enjoying reading various software recollections (e.g. BLISS and various game reminiscing). Thank you to those of you sharing your experiences! Many of us that lurk here are interested in preserving some of the software history from our pasts - so I thought I'd share some of the games and

Re: [Simh] Crowther's Adventure game

2018-02-03 Thread Johnny Billquist
I took a quick peek, and most of the code looked very straight forward. A caveat is that most any Fortran compiler I've seen or heard of for Linux is not so good. So, if you have problems on the Linux side, I'd probably blame that compiler sooner than the code... :-) I didn't spot where any

Re: [Simh] Crowther's Adventure game

2018-02-03 Thread Dan Gahlinger
It may likely have been that plus version, hard to say. the code in the vms directory should compile on a vms (or simh) 7.3 using compaq fortran or whatever packages with it. that code is likely workable to multi-player on vax, but I'd like to find a way to get the linux code to do multiplayer.

Re: [Simh] NetHack game

2018-02-03 Thread Ethan Dicks
> On Feb 3, 2018, at 4:30 PM, Bob Eager wrote: > > On Sat, 3 Feb 2018 23:41:48 + > Dan Gahlinger wrote: > >> There are other games ? larn, moria, imoria, umoria, hack and rogue. If you like Larn, try Ularn. More levels, and a few mods to game play

Re: [Simh] NetHack game

2018-02-03 Thread Zane Healy
> On Feb 3, 2018, at 4:30 PM, Bob Eager wrote: > > On Sat, 3 Feb 2018 23:41:48 + > Dan Gahlinger wrote: > >> There are other games ? larn, moria, imoria, umoria, hack and rogue. > > All of those exist today. I see they are all available as packages

Re: [Simh] PDP for beginners

2018-02-03 Thread Zane Healy
> On Feb 2, 2018, at 6:25 PM, Pär Moberg wrote: > > I am looking to put up a PDP-# machine to play with. What machine and > OS should I use. I am looking for simple/beginner system, or as > beginner it got. Also, not *nix, it is still alive and therefore > boring. >

Re: [Simh] NetHack game

2018-02-03 Thread Bob Eager
On Sat, 3 Feb 2018 23:41:48 + Dan Gahlinger wrote: > There are other games ? larn, moria, imoria, umoria, hack and rogue. All of those exist today. I see they are all available as packages on FreeBSD here, for example. ___

Re: [Simh] EXT :Re: DEC Alpha Emulation

2018-02-03 Thread Zane Healy
Now that you mention it, I was mainly thinking about the video cards, which aren’t fully applicable here. Though Network was another area besides disk where I remember it being a bit of a challenge. I wish I’d known that an Adaptec 1542 was an option, finding a card I could afford was a

Re: [Simh] NetHack game

2018-02-03 Thread Dan Gahlinger
rogue was fun. I also have an old vax game like rogue, something about a crown. I really need to scan these printouts in...  From: Simh on behalf of Tim Stark Sent: February 3, 2018 6:36 PM To:

[Simh] NetHack game

2018-02-03 Thread Tim Stark
Folks, I noticed your discussion about adventures and others. I now remember role-playing games for VAX and Unix machines. It called NetHack game. I quickly googled and found it. http://www.nethack.org https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack - repository for development. There

Re: [Simh] Trek FORTRAN games (Was: Crowther's Adventure game)

2018-02-03 Thread Dan Gahlinger
yeah it's completely totally different. the original code was from PDP, but written by Donald Ecclestone at UWO (Western) in London Ontario I started helping him out with the code in 1978 just when he ported it over to the vax. There's some time-restricting code in it to prevent students from

[Simh] Trek FORTRAN games (Was: Crowther's Adventure game)

2018-02-03 Thread Alan Perry
In this different from the one credited to be by David Matusek and Paul Reynolds? I have FORTRAN source for what I think is the Trek game that we ran on TOPS-20 when I was in college in the mid-80s. I have been trying off and on (mostly off recently) to get it working under SIMH, but haven't

[Simh] Muddle compilers? ( was: RE: Crowther's Adventure game)

2018-02-03 Thread Tim Stark
I found Muddle in PDP10 project (Github) but still empty repo. Does anyone plan to put them on yet? I am looking for Muddle compilers in long time. I found muddle manuals and specs but not software yet. There is confusion software to interpret Muddle sources on If-archive ftp site. Also I

Re: [Simh] Remote Console and Telnet Terminals

2018-02-03 Thread Pär Moberg
On 03/02/2018, Pär Moberg wrote: > My problem is solved, by doing nothing. > The ports shows up as ipv6 but I can connect to it over ipv4 it seems. > //Pär > > On 03/02/2018, David Wijnants wrote: >> Actually, on my machine netstat(8) only shows a tcp6

Re: [Simh] Crowther's Adventure game

2018-02-03 Thread Dan Gahlinger
weird - http://trek7.sourceforge.net/ Works perfectly for me but yes, it's Fortran on the Vax from 1976-1978 timeframe it was Fortran/IV and/or/mixed Fortran/77 so not "standard" fortran at all. actually the code wouldn't compile at all with compaq fortran (IBM) or even on a vax with newer

Re: [Simh] PDP for beginners

2018-02-03 Thread Clem Cole
On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Pär Moberg wrote: > On 03/02/2018, Bob Eager wrote: > > On Sat, 3 Feb 2018 11:41:38 - > > "Dave Wade" wrote: > > > >> > -Original Message- > >> > From: Simh

Re: [Simh] Crowther's Adventure game

2018-02-03 Thread Larry Baker
Dan, The link to your Source Forge page you posted does not work for me. I found TREK7 it at https://sourceforge.net/projects/trek7/ . I tried to find the sources you started with. I found a ZIP file called trk7fsrc.zip

Re: [Simh] PDP for beginners

2018-02-03 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2018-02-03 14:12, Pär Moberg wrote: On 03/02/2018, Bob Eager wrote: On Sat, 3 Feb 2018 11:41:38 - "Dave Wade" wrote: -Original Message- From: Simh [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com] On Behalf Of Pär Moberg Sent: 03 February 2018

Re: [Simh] DEC Alpha Emulation

2018-02-03 Thread Zane Healy
> On Feb 3, 2018, at 3:43 AM, Angelo Papenhoff wrote: > > Why is the page for the 10 so hard? > Lars is quite active in collecting and documenting things, check out > http://gunkies.org/wiki/PDP-10 > > aap The page for the PDP-10 was the best of the pages I have, and is the

Re: [Simh] Crowther's Adventure game

2018-02-03 Thread Timothe Litt
IFILE (and OFILE) don't allow specifying a file extension.  In fact, they only support 5 (or fewer) character file names.  (5 x 7-bit = 36-bit word - don't ask about the extra bit.)  They're a hack to allow specifying a filename at runtime; earlier, you had to use a hardcoded name associated with

Re: [Simh] Crowther's Adventure game

2018-02-03 Thread Lars Brinkhoff
Timothe Litt wrote: > Is the file extension .DAT? that may trigger this. It is. > Is there an OPEN statement for that file? If so, what does it include? There's no OPEN statement. The input is opened by this: CALL IFILE(1,'TEXT') The accompanying file is called ADVENT.DAT. The IFILE

Re: [Simh] Crowther's Adventure game

2018-02-03 Thread Quentin North
That's amazing! I'll have to see if I can get it all going as i have never opped a Dec 10 so it will be a learning journey. Sent from my iPhone > On 3 Feb 2018, at 18:04, Lars Brinkhoff wrote: > > Quentin North wrote: >> A bit off topic, but if anyone has a BCPL compiler for

Re: [Simh] Remote Console and Telnet Terminals

2018-02-03 Thread David Wijnants
Actually, on my machine netstat(8) only shows a tcp6 socket in LISTEN state (there is no corresponding 0.0.0.0:1170 LISTEN). Nevertheless, telnet connects just fine. While connected, I can see my tcp/ipv4 [telnet] socket in ESTABLISHED state, and tcp6 socket that connects the two. David. On 3

Re: [Simh] Crowther's Adventure game

2018-02-03 Thread Lars Brinkhoff
Quentin North wrote: > A bit off topic, but if anyone has a BCPL compiler for the Dec 10 I > have the source code and files to the original Essex > MUD. Unfortunately I think the compiler is lost, but I live in hope. You're in luck. The Essex BCPL surfaced last year.

Re: [Simh] Crowther's Adventure game

2018-02-03 Thread Dan Gahlinger
I have an original printout of Adventure from the mid 70's, taken from a Vax though, It's not a version I've found on the archives, the version ID on mine is different. I've been meaning to scan it and post it. Ancient fortran is very hard to convert, as I found out trying to convert trek7

Re: [Simh] Crowther's Adventure game

2018-02-03 Thread Quentin North
A bit off topic, but if anyone has a BCPL compiler for the Dec 10 I have the source code and files to the original Essex MUD. Unfortunately I think the compiler is lost, but I live in hope. Sent from my iPhone > On 3 Feb 2018, at 15:06, Bob Nelson wrote: > > There are

Re: [Simh] PDP for beginners

2018-02-03 Thread Mike Markowski
On 02/03/2018 06:41 AM, Dave Wade wrote: -Original Message- From: Simh [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com] On Behalf Of Pär Moberg Sent: 03 February 2018 02:26 To: simh@trailing-edge.com Subject: [Simh] PDP for beginners I am looking to put up a PDP-# machine to play with. What

Re: [Simh] Remote Console and Telnet Terminals

2018-02-03 Thread Mark Pizzolato
On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 6:11 AM, Pär Moberg wrote: > I am trying setup remote console and telnet terminals but it only shows up as > ipv6 ports and not ipv4 ports. > I will telnet in using old systems that only have ipv4. Please provide some details about exactly what you tried and

Re: [Simh] Remote Console and Telnet Terminals

2018-02-03 Thread David Wijnants
If you're using the PDP11 emulator, try attaching the dz device without the -ma option. That fixed it for me. David. On 3 February 2018 at 14:11, Pär Moberg wrote: > Hello, > I am trying setup remote console and telnet terminals but it only > shows up as ipv6 ports and

Re: [Simh] Crowther's Adventure game

2018-02-03 Thread Bob Nelson
There are people trying to preserve significant old computer designs and operating systems in a form most likely to survive going forward such as simh. There are also people trying to preserve significant old programs in a form most likely to survive going forward. Being in a simh forum it

[Simh] Serial terminal with simH

2018-02-03 Thread billdeg
Having trouble getting message through, butg here is my thread about using a serial terminal with simH PDP 8 or 11http://vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=664Bill Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone___ Simh mailing list

[Simh] Remote Console and Telnet Terminals

2018-02-03 Thread Pär Moberg
Hello, I am trying setup remote console and telnet terminals but it only shows up as ipv6 ports and not ipv4 ports. I will telnet in using old systems that only have ipv4. //Pär ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com

Re: [Simh] PDP for beginners

2018-02-03 Thread Pär Moberg
On 03/02/2018, Bob Eager wrote: > On Sat, 3 Feb 2018 11:41:38 - > "Dave Wade" wrote: > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: Simh [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com] On Behalf Of Pär >> > Moberg >> > Sent: 03 February 2018 02:26 >> > To:

Re: [Simh] PDP for beginners

2018-02-03 Thread Bob Eager
On Sat, 3 Feb 2018 11:41:38 - "Dave Wade" wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Simh [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com] On Behalf Of Pär > > Moberg > > Sent: 03 February 2018 02:26 > > To: simh@trailing-edge.com > > Subject: [Simh] PDP for beginners > >

Re: [Simh] DEC Alpha Emulation

2018-02-03 Thread Angelo Papenhoff
On 02/02/18, Zane Healy wrote: > Thanks, I thought I had that one listed. It’s there now, and the FPGA page > is closer to being updated. > > I’ll have to decide which I’m brave enough to tackle next, the VAX, PDP-11, > or PDP-10 page. The PDP-10 one will be the most challenging one to

Re: [Simh] PDP for beginners

2018-02-03 Thread Dave Wade
> -Original Message- > From: Simh [mailto:simh-boun...@trailing-edge.com] On Behalf Of Pär > Moberg > Sent: 03 February 2018 02:26 > To: simh@trailing-edge.com > Subject: [Simh] PDP for beginners > > I am looking to put up a PDP-# machine to play with. What machine and OS > should I

Re: [Simh] Crowther's Adventure game

2018-02-03 Thread Bob Eager
On Sat, 03 Feb 2018 00:37:25 -0500 Phil Budne wrote: > > Last year Eric Raymond (The Cathedral And The Bazaar guy) and a few > > others took the ugly machine translated C code from the last known > > Fortran version and rewrote/structured it into something that is > > much

Re: [Simh] PDP for beginners

2018-02-03 Thread Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
El 3 febr 2018, a les 3:25, Pär Moberg va escriure: > I am looking to put up a PDP-# machine to play with. What machine and > OS should I use. I am looking for simple/beginner system, or as > beginner it got. Also, not *nix, it is still alive and therefore > boring. >