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To: simh@trailing-edge.com
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Simh] simh
* On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 07:41:30PM -0500, Bill Cunningham
bill...@suddenlink.net wrote:
Are there any docs about the way simh
Can anyone give me a tip on how to boot from simh two rk tapes I found
that have rsx-11m v3.2 on them. They were in the sme directory as the tapes
on this page
http://home.earthlink.net/~n1be/pdp11/PDP11.html
But those disks I don't think I'm ever going to get going so I thought I'd
try
Oh I see now. I thought this was a console simulation. Well it would
help if I installed xterm. So I installed the Basic Desktop group for
fedora. It looks like it might want gnome too. I have more to install. Does
anyone who happens to know, I'm not asking anyone to go looking for stuff
I used the rsx files from this site.
http://home.earthlink.net/~n1be/pdp11/PDP11.html
And compiled a pdp11 simh binary. I ran in linux...
./pdp11 sim.ini
Which as a copy of the file on that page. I didn't copy run.sh the shell
script. When I tried to boot either of the tapes the system
Ok I am still officially duped. But here is a copy of the log file simh
created.
Bill
console.log
Description: Binary data
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To: Bill Cunningham bill...@suddenlink.net; simh@trailing-edge.com
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 8:14 PM
Subject: RE: [Simh] RSX problem
On Saturday, March 06, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Bill Cunningham wrote:
Oh I see
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From: Kevin Monceaux ke...@rawfeddogs.net
To: simh@trailing-edge.com
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Simh] rsx problem
Bill,
On Sat, Mar 07, 2015 at 01:51:56PM -0500, Bill Cunningham wrote:
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Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 12:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Simh] rsx problem
Use the original config file. Notice that the last useful lines
I am going to try once again with simh's pdp 11/70 setting generating
the rsx11m-v3.2. From this page I mentioned before.
http://home.earthlink.net/~n1be/pdp11/PDP11.html
I was about 10 yo in 1979 so I don't remember these machines. But the pics I
see they looked like beauties to behold.
Is there an instruction sheet anywhere for simh to load the rsx OS I
think it's rsx-11m to use with the pdp11 simh emulator?
Bill
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Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Simh] Getting rsxs to run on the pdp11 emulator
On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 13:28:27 -0500
Henry Bent hb...@oberlin.edu wrote:
The gunkies.org wiki has done a
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Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Simh] Is Alpha AXP in SIMH's future?
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On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 at
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From: Vorländer, Martin m...@pdv-systeme.de
To: Simh@trailing-edge.com
Cc: Bill Cunningham bill...@suddenlink.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Simh] Getting rsxs to run on the pdp11 emulator
Am 03.03.2015 um 04:29 schrieb Bill Cunningham
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Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Simh] Getting rsxs to run on the pdp11 emulator
There is a couple of publicly accessible system running RSX-11M+.
***
The first
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From: li...@openmailbox.org
To: SIMH Simh@trailing-edge.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Simh] Regarding Cutler THE father of VMS myth
Incredible post! This list is worth following for the scope of information
alone, even if you never
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To: Bill Cunningham bill...@suddenlink.net; simh@trailing-edge.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Simh] Regarding Cutler THE father of VMS myth
From: Bill Cunningham bill...@suddenlink.net
I've
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To: Johnny Billquist b...@softjar.se
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Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Simh] Regarding Cutler THE father of VMS myth
Hmm since this has deteriorated into stories and history of
I find the part of the page that involves simh setup confusing. it
mentions a config file. I know where no config file is. It looks like the
gzip'd files are above a directory called X. then run.sh shell script is
run. The simh varialbe will need changed to the parth to the pdp11 simh
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From: frederic fournis
To: bill...@suddenlink.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 1:53 PM
Subject: os8/pdp8
Hi,
My config file is the following:
att rx0 os8_rx.dsk
att rx1 os8f4_rx.ok
att rk0 advent.rk05
boot rx0
at the prompt:
dir
Sorry I guess that would be static libraries. posix threading, the C math
library of course. But that was always there.
Bill
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I have two os8 files that have the extension rx01. So I am assuming they
are rx8e floppies. I have been able to successfully attack the first file to
rx. But the second file I can't remember if it's unit or device not available.
But these are the files if anyone is familiar with them.
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From: Bill Cunningham
To: simh@trailing-edge.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 6:22 PM
Subject: [Simh] buses
Were the different buses like the ominibus and the unibus very much
different? And how do they strikerealte/strike relate to today's buses
Were the different buses like the ominibus and the unibus very much
different? And how do they realte to today's buses? Would they be and address
or system bus?
Bill
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I think maybe the simh doc too might have confused me a bit. 3.1.3 talks
about word length, not addressability and that kind of confused me. I was
looking into the PDPs and then commodore machines that ran CP/M which I guess
was C128. I never had one. C64s and TRS-80 CoCos but not C128. So
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From: Johnny Billquist
To: simh@trailing-edge.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Simh] C64 and C128
On 2015-07-01 01:56, Bill Cunningham wrote:
I remember those floppy drives where big and heavy. I never had cp/m or
a c128
Is that F-831F ? It's all I can find from May 65.
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From: Jack Rubin
To: simh@trailing-edge.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 12:14 PM
Subject: [Simh] bits and bites
Just to add to the general hilarity, the PDP-8 Interface Manual (DEC
publication
I am looking at this page...
http://www.mikroe.com/chapters/view/4/chapter-3-i-o-ports/
Now would this be similar or what the C64 MOS processor would be like? The
specs I got ahold of says 8 bit bidirectional IO ports I don't know who is
familiar with the commodore 64s. But it's something
void (*sim_vm_init) (void)
Well what is this. The function returns nothing and takes nothing right? What's
the *sim_VM_init in parenthesis referring too? That's my question.
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[...]
This kernel I built was only microvax II and VAX-11/750 so it won't directly
boot on a 11/780 nor a VAX8600. But if I add a line CPU VAX780 and CPU
VAX8600 it boots on both.
But still no-go on vax750. I even tried to remove some more optional features
in the kernel config
The only old copy of simh I was able to get was the 3.8-1 version and it
involves DECnet. Does anyone know anything about a DECnet for simh or on the
internet anywhere? Why is this simh called that? Is it a specialized version by
another party other than the maintainer?
Bill
The copy I found wanted lex and yacc. Well evidently byacc was acceptable. Lex
is from unix of course so I didn't have the dependancies to compile the C
program. I am not sure if it would accept flex or not.
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To: Bill Cunningham
Cc: simh
I guess cdecl was removed from my distro of linux; fedora because of
copyright concerns. I have read the project was long dead.
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Did the C64 not run CP/M? I know the 128 did. It had a 8502 processor and
Z80A processor I believe. One was for CP/M. What good is a commodore machine
without CP/M ;)
Bill
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is memory word size?
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To: Bill Cunningham
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Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Simh] C64 and C128
The C64 did not run cp/m out of the box, because it did not have any kind of
Intel 8080 based
Ok anyone know the C64 word size of memory? The 6510 was 8 bit and there
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are right. Thanks for the
comment.
Message -
From: pigi
To: simh@trailing-edge.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Simh] simh API
Il 14/07/2015 19:25, Bill Cunningham ha scritto:
I am not quite sure if I have ask this, or something similar before.
If so
I have some instructions on how to use the pdp11 simulator for the
mentioned in the subject line.
set cpu 11/45
set cpu 256k
set cpu idle
SET RL enable
set RL0 RL02
set RL1 RL02
SET RP ENABLE
SET RP0 RP06
ATTACH RP0 RP06.000
SET RP1 RP06
;ATTACH RP1 RP06.001
SET TS ENABLE
SET TS0
Will the software on this page run on simh? Is TU-58 supported? IF not can
something else be used?
This looks like some pretty good stuff.
Bill
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After using shutdown on my virtual VMS, it dropped to the simh prompt and
had this error.
Infinite loop, PC833DC8D3 (BRB ...)
and the same hex number were the ... is. What does that mean?
Bill
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OK I have changed my linux by installing these programs. ckermit, gkermit
and I installed the dnprogs which seems to work for me. It compiled with
warnings but the compile didn't break. So I can use decnet on my linux now
after some tinkering I'm sure.
So what would be the easist way
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From: Johnny Billquist
To: Bill Cunningham
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Simh] vax simh and loading file
On 2016-02-12 22:40, Bill Cunningham wrote:
> Hum. I am running in console mode. Cut and paste from one termi
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From: Bill Cunningham
To: Paul Koning ; s...@trailing-edge.com
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Simh] pdp11 and unix
Well that's certainly before ICs I think that was in the 1950s and it was
some early calculators that killed
2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Simh] pdp11 and unix
> On Feb 27, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Bill Cunningham <bill...@suddenlink.net> wrote:
>
> Well that's certainly before ICs I think that was in the 1950s and it was
some early calculators that killed slide rules. What kind of &
ary 27, 2016 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Simh] pdp11 and unix
On 2016-02-27 20:46, Paul Koning wrote:
>
>> On Feb 27, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Bill Cunningham <bill...@suddenlink.net>
wrote:
>>
>> Well that's certainly before ICs I think that was in the 1950s and it was
some
1967 was the first hand held.
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From: Johnny Billquist
To: Bill Cunningham ; simh@trailing-edge.com
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Simh] pdp11 and unix
Well, 1976 is a far cry from the 1950s...
Johnny
Bill Cunningham
https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/events/EDSAC99/simulators/
This is kind of interesting.
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From: dave porter
To: simh@trailing-edge.com
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Simh] programming in binary
As I understand it. the EDSAC (the first
I didn't know that B had been around so much. I then was /not/ designed for
working with UNIX specifically?
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From: Clem Cole
To: Eric Smith
Cc: simh@trailing-edge.com
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Simh] pdp11 and unix
On
Or program in binary. Like originally.
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From: Paul Koning
To: Clem Cole
Cc: SIMH
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Simh] pdp11 and unix
> On Feb 26, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Clem Cole wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Feb
Wilm,
Your suggestion on the simh list looks just like what I need. I use simh 3.9
and the vax has a cr device. I attached a file and everything is good. When I
login to vms nothing understands job.
I've tried job
@sys$system:job and so on and can't get job or find it anywhere. The
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From: Johnny Billquist
To: simh@trailing-edge.com
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Simh] pdp11 and unix
On 2016-02-26 01:50, Bill Cunningham wrote:
> When Ken Thompson coded UNIX it was in assembly. The first versi
is.
Bill
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From: Bill Deegan
To: Bill Cunningham
Cc: simh@trailing-edge.com
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Simh] vax simh and loading file
For the PAKs I just copy/pasted to get things going. That worked fine.
Bring it up in a t
I thought there were directions for this but I can't find them now. I have
a file I wish to put into openvms. I am using the vax simulator. It contains a
bit of license information. Is there a way through simh that this file can be
passed into a loaded openvms image? Maybe I was looking at
Old posts to this list from 2014 say somethings but the links are dead. I
don't know if simh has changed since then or not. MAC address and xq0 device
will need set up and a file can be attached in simh somehow.
Bill
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I see. Forgive me but I don't know if vms has ftp or not. I'm really starting
out with it. I found some pages for setting up phase iv but need to get the
PAKs into openvms via simh.
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To: Bill Cunningham
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 6
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From: Wilm Boerhout
To: simh@trailing-edge.com
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 3:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Simh] vax simh and loading file
Exactly. The only thing that simh adds to this process is the "set cr
reset" command to prompt the card reader
To: Timothy Litt
My OE isn't printing your emails for some reason, so I am having to read your
posts of the list's archive. Dunno what's up.
Thanks to all who have helped me. I have now in vms a file I saved as "lic.txt"
I type "type lic.txt" and it prints out in in entirety. Now if I
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From: Timothe Litt
To: simh@trailing-edge.com
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Simh] loading file
Glad you've made progress.
There is no 'y' in my name.
So post the full recipe that worked for you so that future folks can
I successfully copied the license to vms as lic.com. Then a typed
@lic.com. This is a logged result by simh. cut a bit.
$ @lic.com
%DCL-W-NOCOMD, no command on line - reenter with alphabetic first character
%DCL-W-NOCOMD, no command on line - reenter with alphabetic first character
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From: Robert Thomas
To: simh@trailing-edge.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Simh] License File
Rather than fight file transfers prior to installing licenses, use the
following command:
$ @SYS$UPDATE:VMSLICENSE
The
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From: Paul Koning
To: Johnny Billquist
Cc: simh@trailing-edge.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Simh] Disk info request
I long ago forgot the details, but a look at the MSCP Basic Functions manual
(on Bitsavers in the
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From: Clem Cole
To: Bill Cunningham
Cc: SIMH
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Simh] [SimH] Networking support
Bill,
You probably need to date things a little and get a some perspective of where
a few of us are coming
up and made a product, some of those stacks (like the HP-1000 and HP-3000
stacks from BBN) have been lost. If someone has those it would be cool, but I
have not seen those bits since the early 1980s.
Clem
On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Bill Cunningham <bill...@suddenlink.net
NCP is that network control program? "Network control protocol" and "link
control protocol" I am finding is part of PPP. So RFC 801's reference to NCP;
is that "network control program". I appreciate being corrected. Henry's BBN
question is very interesting.
Bill
Oh my God there's no hope for me. :-)
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From: Bob Supnik
To: simh@trailing-edge.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 2:58 PM
Subject: [Simh] Been off the job too long
How can I get the macro11 cross-assembler to output absolute binary
format? Or is
Yeah I've heard of RDOS and X DOS. I have virtual PC 2007 and dosbox
does work. I still like SIMh the best.
B
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From: Davis Johnson
To: Bill Cunningham
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Simh] simh and dos
None of the SIMH emulators
Simh will probably never emulate a more modern system. At least not the main
distro. That's not simh's purpose to my knowledge. MSDOS just isn't old enough
:)
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From: Bill Cunningham
To: Davis Johnson ; simh@trailing-edge.com
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016
I can't seem to be able to find anywhere, and I looked at some of my own
previous posts as well as others on this list; about tu-58 tapes.
Now there are some VMS versions 3 and 4 and such that have a .TAP
extension. They are copies of actual cartridges. For vax or possibly pdp11. How
I have been studying the best way to copy from a vax simulator with openvms
to a linux host, text files. The Docs look like telnet and kermit are the way
to do it. So is there not a device like ISO that I can copy TOO? I wouldn't
think because cdrom is RO after all. and 'set rq writeenable'
that
(see ASC in the simtools package).
/Bob
On 3/25/2016 2:51 PM, simh-requ...@trailing-edge.com wrote:
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 14:23:35 -0500
> From: "Bill Cunningham"<bill...@suddenlink.net>
> To:<simh@trailing-edge.com>
> Subject: [S
The only thing I know I can do is to use 'type filename' and log that to a file
attached to simh. That would take a very long time though. People tell me
kermit in vms can be a pain.
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From: Sergey Oboguev
To: Mark Pizzolato ; Bill Cunningham ; Bill Deegan
OK. I will look into it. And see what I can do.
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From: Mark Pizzolato
To: Bill Cunningham ; Bill Deegan ; simh@trailing-edge.com
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 1:50 PM
Subject: RE: [Simh] text from openvms
If you want to go down the Kermit path you’ll
To: Christian Gauger-Cosgrove ; Bill Cunningham
Cc: SIMH
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 4:55 PM
Subject: RE: [Simh] TU-56
On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote:
> On 24 March 2016 at 18:13, Bill Cunningham <bill...@suddenlink.net> wrote:
> >
My apologies for posting carlessly and not entering a subject. I do now
indeed have the latest simhvmaster mar 2006. OK. I see vax780 supports TU-50.
Will that also support TU-56. Sorry for my ignorance. Maybe I am overlooking
TU-56 support somewhere.
Bill
kermit. Is there
a way to do this without involving tcp/ip protocols?
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From: Bill Deegan
To: Zachary Kline
Cc: Bill Cunningham ; SIMH List
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Simh] text from openvms
How about FTP?
On Fri, Mar 25
When I load a file with simh if I'm using the vax simulator for example. I
use these settings:
set nvr filename
set cpu 64m
set cpu idle=vms
specifically the third for vms. Now it seems these are not really needed to me.
How does it help the simulator or the simulation? Is it easier for it
I seem to have remembered discussing this somewhere at sometime. I have
googled and googled and don't know how to get in touch with Mark. Is there a
.doc that is a tutorial to use simh as a API? I know I have seen something like
that before.
Bill
Mark and all,
Since you are going to add TU-58 support will these files be accessable
now?
http://iamvirtual.ca/VAX11/VAX-11-software.html
It seems like at some point I used simh to successfully get into one of those
.TAP files. I didn't know enough about it to know what I was
I am receiving this error code
?42 no such file
set rq0 cdrom
at rq0 openvms73.iso
Recently the file openvms73.iso which was bzip2'd was being uncompressed.
bunzip2 said there was a problem. And use bzip2recover. Which I did. Of
course there were many recovery files and as they were being
What simh emulator is the "Integrity"? I have a VMS hobbyist PAK for it
from HP.
Bill
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Oh I thought simh had a working alpha simulator. For a later version than
vms7.3. OH I have a PAK for VAX oh yes.
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From: "Hittner, David T (IS)" <david.hitt...@ngc.com>
To: "Bill Cunningham" <bill...@suddenlink.net>; <sim
Ok since I have been told the alpha simh emulator isn't booting yet. I
guess I have two questions:
o does anyone know when it should be complete or what's going on? Maybe I
should check the main page or something.
o And two, is there any emulators that can be used until then? Something to
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To:
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Simh] Getting SimH 4 past Beta stage?
[...]
Right. But notice that his packaging system installed 3.8.1-5, so they
are not even on
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Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Simh] Rainbow100
On 19-Jul-17 23:23, Bill Cunningham wrote:
There's no simulator for DEC's first micro is there? Will there ever be
one
There's no simulator for DEC's first micro is there? Will there ever be one?
Bill
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On 6/25/2017 5:18 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2017-06-24 19:00, Robert Armstrong wrote:
Have you read the OS/8 handbook? It tells you pretty much
everything there is to know about OS/8. You can find a copy on
bitsavers,
http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/dec/pdp8/os8/
I've
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Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Simh] OS/8
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To: SIMH List
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Simh
I am reading a bit about the machine the PDP-8. 4K fortran I guess was
used, there were 8 "registers" if that's right. And 12 bit words. As far as
languages here, is Macro-8 assembly language? These assembly languages today
are so complicated. I would like to look at assembly with such a
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To: Bill Cunningham
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Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Simh] OS/8
https://www.grc.com/pdp-8/docs/OS8_System_Reference_Manual.pdf
Alright. Ok I see. Got it.
Bill
One thing I have noticed in simh's software kits repository, si that the
OS/8 there doesn't seem to have any simh loading or preparation instructions
for OS/8.
Bill
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On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Bill Cunningham <bill...@suddenlink.net>
wrote:
One thing I have noticed in simh's software kits reposito
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Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Simh] PDP-8 and OS/8 assembly
On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 5:50 PM, Bill Cunningham <bill...@suddenlink.net>
wrote:
> I am reading a bit about th
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