--- Eric B. Ramsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matt: I understand your point #2 but it is a grand sweep without any detail.
To give you an example of what I have in mind, let's consider the photon
double slit experiment again. You have a photon emitter operating at very
low intensity such that
--- Gifting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is plenty of physical evidence that the universe is simulated by
a
finite state machine or a Turing machine.
1. The universe has finite size, mass, and age, and resolution
etc.
-- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I assume
--- John G. Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If this universe is simulated the simulator could also be a simulation and
that simulator could also be a simulation. and so on.
What is that behavior of an organism called when the organism, alife or not,
starts analyzing things and questioning
From: Matt Mahoney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Interesting question. Suppose you simulated a world where agents had
enough
intelligence to ponder this question. What do you think they would do?
My guess is that agents in a simulated evolutionary environment that
correctly
believe that
On Friday 11 January 2008, John G. Rose wrote:
What is that behavior of an organism called when the organism, alife
or not, starts analyzing things and questioning whether or not it is
a simulation? It's not only self-awareness but something in addition
to that.
I think simulation is becoming
--- John G. Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a sim world there are many variables that can overcome other motivators
so a change in the rate of gene proliferation would be difficult to predict.
The agents that correctly believe that it is a simulation could say OK this
is all fake, I'm going
--- Charles D Hixson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Simulation is a new word. In this context, let's use an old word.
Maya. Have the Buddhist countries and societies gone away?
And let's use an old word for reality. Heaven. Have the Christian
countries and societies gone away?
Perhaps you
Apart from all this philosophy (non-ending as it seems), Table 1. of the paper
referred to at the start of this thread gives several consequences of a
simulation that offer to explain what's behind current physical observations
such as the upper speed limit of light, relativistic and quantum
From: Bryan Bishop [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think simulation is becoming the new reality. Just a new name.
Yes reality is relative. Our view of reality is probably so far off from what
it actually is in this universe. And reality I would think is very species
dependant. It's only an
On Saturday 12 January 2008, John G. Rose wrote:
Yes reality is relative. Our view of reality is probably so far off
from what it actually is in this universe. And reality I would think
is very species dependant. It's only an approximation as a simulation
is an approximation.
If it's not an
From: Matt Mahoney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
It is unlikely that any knowledge you now have would be useful in
another
simulation. Knowledge is only useful if it helps propagate your DNA.
An agent taking data from one simulation to the next could store the data
within the agent or the data
I would look at multiverses with different physical constants. Say
speed-of-light in one multiverse was larger than ours, say WAY larger
example 10^100*c. If intermultiverse communication is possible how would the
physics work out if a simulation or manipulation was conducted from one to
the
Well everything *seems* real... right? Though sometimes it all feels a bit
ersatz J
John
From: Eric B. Ramsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 12:03 PM
To: singularity@v2.listbox.com
Subject: RE: [singularity] World as Simulation
Your suggestion baffles me. I
Matt: I would prefer to analyse something simple such as the double slit
experiment. If you do an experiment to see which slit the photon goes through
you get an accumulation of photons in equal numbers behind each slit. If you
don't make an effort to see which slit the photons go through, you
--- Eric B. Ramsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matt: I would prefer to analyse something simple such as the double slit
experiment. If you do an experiment to see which slit the photon goes
through you get an accumulation of photons in equal numbers behind each
slit. If you don't make an effort
Matt: I understand your point #2 but it is a grand sweep without any detail. To
give you an example of what I have in mind, let's consider the photon double
slit experiment again. You have a photon emitter operating at very low
intensity such that photons come out singly. There is an average
If this universe is simulated the simulator could also be a simulation and
that simulator could also be a simulation. and so on.
.
What is that behavior of an organism called when the organism, alife or not,
starts analyzing things and questioning whether or not it is a simulation?
It's
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