Entropy of the universe [WAS Re: [singularity] Implications of an already existing singularity.]

2007-03-28 Thread Richard Loosemore
Matt Mahoney wrote: --- Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 06:50:59PM -0700, Matt Mahoney wrote: Of course it could be that a singularity has already happened, and what you perceive as the universe is actually a simulation within the resulting superintelligence.

Re: Entropy of the universe [WAS Re: [singularity] Implications of an already existing singularity.]

2007-03-28 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt Mahoney wrote: *The entropy of the universe is of the order T^2 c^5/hG ~ 10^122 bits, where T is the age of the universe, c is the speed of light, h is Planck's constant and G is the gravitational constant. By coincidence (or not?),

RE: [singularity] Implications of an already existing singularity.

2007-03-28 Thread Tom McCabe
Saying that X or Y could be evidence of a simulation is silly. Why would X be more likely to be evidence of a simulation than ~X? Seeing as how anyone who could design anything so sophisticated could easily pick either for most Xs, and since we know nothing about their motivations, we're rather

Re: [singularity] Implications of an already existing singularity.

2007-03-28 Thread Tom McCabe
Why would a simulating alien race want to create a universe with fluctuating constants as opposed to fixed constants? To drop us a subtle hint? Why a subtle hint, and not an obvious hint or no hint at all? --- Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [singularity] Multiverse and Alien Singularities

2007-03-28 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On 3/28/07, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- John Ku [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Kurzweil on certain points. I think any intelligent life would have evolved with very similar evolutionary pressures and thus share broad similarities in their motivations (e.g. creativity,