Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim.app jump to page top when refreshing under Sierra

2016-09-22 Thread Chirok Han
Superb! This works beautifully. Your test version fixes the reload positioning 
problem. Many thanks!!!

 

Chirok

 

From: Christiaan Hofman 
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Date: Friday, 23 September 2016 at 9:08 AM
To: For general discussion about using Skim 

Subject: Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim.app jump to page top when refreshing under 
Sierra

 

I put test version at <http://skim-app.sourceforce.net/Skim.dmg>.Perhaps you 
can download and try it out, to see if it fixes your reload positioning 
problem, and report back?

 

Christiaan

 

On Sep 22, 2016, at 17:06, Chirok Han  wrote:

 

I didn't know that. Thanks for the info. I'll have to find a way.

 

Chirok

 

From: Christiaan Hofman 
Reply-To: For general discussion about using Skim 

Date: Friday, 23 September 2016 at 12:02 AM
To: For general discussion about using Skim 

Subject: Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim.app jump to page top when refreshing under 
Sierra

 

Be aware that that can be dangerous. All kinds of data on your system will be 
upgraded, and won’t work anymore on ElCap. You should only do that if you have 
a backup from ElCap, and use that to install your system.

 

Christiaan

 

On Sep 22, 2016, at 16:57, Chirok Han  wrote:

 

Many thanks for your quick reply. I'll then have to consider downgrading to El 
Capitan.

 

Chirok

 

 

From: Christiaan Hofman 
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Date: Thursday, 22 September 2016 at 11:51 PM
To: For general discussion about using Skim 

Subject: Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim.app jump to page top when refreshing under 
Sierra

 

 

On Sep 22, 2016, at 16:46, Chirok Han  wrote:

 

Hi all,

 

Skim.app is excellent. I use it all the time.

 

I have a question about Skim's behavior when refreshing a pdf file. Under El 
Capitan, when Skim.app reloads a pdf, the viewing position was preserved the 
same. For example, if I was viewing the bottom of a page, the position is still 
the same.

 

But this changed after I upgraded the OS to macOS Sierra, which I regret. Now 
refreshing makes Skim.app jump to the page top. For example, if I was viewing 
the middle of page 3, after the pdf file is changed (usually by pdflatex), 
Skim.app changes the position to the top of page 3. On my other mac running El 
Capitan, the position does not change. It's only under Sierra that the position 
jumps to the top of a page. The version is 1.4.21 (95) on both machines.

 

Would there be a way to avoid the position change under Sierra?

 

Thank you.

 

Chirok

 

 

I have had several reports about problems in automatic scrolling in Sierra. It 
looks like PDFKit has a bug there, when we tell it to scroll to some position 
it often does not do that. I have reported a bug about this already, but it 
looks to be a more general problem than I thought at first. Unfortunately there 
is nothing we can do about this, Apple needs to fix this in PDFKit.

 

Christiaan

 

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Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim.app jump to page top when refreshing under Sierra

2016-09-22 Thread Christiaan Hofman
I put test version at <http://skim-app.sourceforce.net/Skim.dmg>.Perhaps you 
can download and try it out, to see if it fixes your reload positioning 
problem, and report back?

Christiaan

> On Sep 22, 2016, at 17:06, Chirok Han  wrote:
> 
> I didn't know that. Thanks for the info. I'll have to find a way.
>  
> Chirok
>  
> From: Christiaan Hofman 
> Reply-To: For general discussion about using Skim 
> 
> Date: Friday, 23 September 2016 at 12:02 AM
> To: For general discussion about using Skim 
> 
> Subject: Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim.app jump to page top when refreshing under 
> Sierra
>  
> Be aware that that can be dangerous. All kinds of data on your system will be 
> upgraded, and won’t work anymore on ElCap. You should only do that if you 
> have a backup from ElCap, and use that to install your system.
>  
> Christiaan
>  
>> On Sep 22, 2016, at 16:57, Chirok Han > <mailto:chirok@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Many thanks for your quick reply. I'll then have to consider downgrading to 
>> El Capitan.
>>  
>> Chirok
>>  
>>  
>> From: Christiaan Hofman mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>>
>> Reply-To: For general discussion about using Skim 
>> > <mailto:skim-app-users@lists.sourceforge.net>>
>> Date: Thursday, 22 September 2016 at 11:51 PM
>> To: For general discussion about using Skim 
>> > <mailto:skim-app-users@lists.sourceforge.net>>
>> Subject: Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim.app jump to page top when refreshing 
>> under Sierra
>>  
>>  
>>> On Sep 22, 2016, at 16:46, Chirok Han >> <mailto:chirok@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi all,
>>>  
>>> Skim.app is excellent. I use it all the time.
>>>  
>>> I have a question about Skim's behavior when refreshing a pdf file. Under 
>>> El Capitan, when Skim.app reloads a pdf, the viewing position was preserved 
>>> the same. For example, if I was viewing the bottom of a page, the position 
>>> is still the same.
>>>  
>>> But this changed after I upgraded the OS to macOS Sierra, which I regret. 
>>> Now refreshing makes Skim.app jump to the page top. For example, if I was 
>>> viewing the middle of page 3, after the pdf file is changed (usually by 
>>> pdflatex), Skim.app changes the position to the top of page 3. On my other 
>>> mac running El Capitan, the position does not change. It's only under 
>>> Sierra that the position jumps to the top of a page. The version is 1.4.21 
>>> (95) on both machines.
>>>  
>>> Would there be a way to avoid the position change under Sierra?
>>>  
>>> Thank you.
>>>  
>>> Chirok
>>>  
>>  
>> I have had several reports about problems in automatic scrolling in Sierra. 
>> It looks like PDFKit has a bug there, when we tell it to scroll to some 
>> position it often does not do that. I have reported a bug about this 
>> already, but it looks to be a more general problem than I thought at first. 
>> Unfortunately there is nothing we can do about this, Apple needs to fix this 
>> in PDFKit.
>>  
>> Christiaan

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Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim.app jump to page top when refreshing under Sierra

2016-09-22 Thread Chirok Han
I didn't know that. Thanks for the info. I'll have to find a way.

 

Chirok

 

From: Christiaan Hofman 
Reply-To: For general discussion about using Skim 

Date: Friday, 23 September 2016 at 12:02 AM
To: For general discussion about using Skim 

Subject: Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim.app jump to page top when refreshing under 
Sierra

 

Be aware that that can be dangerous. All kinds of data on your system will be 
upgraded, and won’t work anymore on ElCap. You should only do that if you have 
a backup from ElCap, and use that to install your system.

 

Christiaan

 

On Sep 22, 2016, at 16:57, Chirok Han  wrote:

 

Many thanks for your quick reply. I'll then have to consider downgrading to El 
Capitan.

 

Chirok

 

 

From: Christiaan Hofman 
Reply-To: For general discussion about using Skim 

Date: Thursday, 22 September 2016 at 11:51 PM
To: For general discussion about using Skim 

Subject: Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim.app jump to page top when refreshing under 
Sierra

 

 

On Sep 22, 2016, at 16:46, Chirok Han  wrote:

 

Hi all,

 

Skim.app is excellent. I use it all the time.

 

I have a question about Skim's behavior when refreshing a pdf file. Under El 
Capitan, when Skim.app reloads a pdf, the viewing position was preserved the 
same. For example, if I was viewing the bottom of a page, the position is still 
the same.

 

But this changed after I upgraded the OS to macOS Sierra, which I regret. Now 
refreshing makes Skim.app jump to the page top. For example, if I was viewing 
the middle of page 3, after the pdf file is changed (usually by pdflatex), 
Skim.app changes the position to the top of page 3. On my other mac running El 
Capitan, the position does not change. It's only under Sierra that the position 
jumps to the top of a page. The version is 1.4.21 (95) on both machines.

 

Would there be a way to avoid the position change under Sierra?

 

Thank you.

 

Chirok

 

 

I have had several reports about problems in automatic scrolling in Sierra. It 
looks like PDFKit has a bug there, when we tell it to scroll to some position 
it often does not do that. I have reported a bug about this already, but it 
looks to be a more general problem than I thought at first. Unfortunately there 
is nothing we can do about this, Apple needs to fix this in PDFKit.

 

Christiaan


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Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim.app jump to page top when refreshing under Sierra

2016-09-22 Thread Christiaan Hofman
Be aware that that can be dangerous. All kinds of data on your system will be 
upgraded, and won’t work anymore on ElCap. You should only do that if you have 
a backup from ElCap, and use that to install your system.

Christiaan

> On Sep 22, 2016, at 16:57, Chirok Han  wrote:
> 
> Many thanks for your quick reply. I'll then have to consider downgrading to 
> El Capitan.
>  
> Chirok
>  
>  
> From: Christiaan Hofman 
> Reply-To: For general discussion about using Skim 
> 
> Date: Thursday, 22 September 2016 at 11:51 PM
> To: For general discussion about using Skim 
> 
> Subject: Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim.app jump to page top when refreshing under 
> Sierra
>  
>  
>> On Sep 22, 2016, at 16:46, Chirok Han > <mailto:chirok@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hi all,
>>  
>> Skim.app is excellent. I use it all the time.
>>  
>> I have a question about Skim's behavior when refreshing a pdf file. Under El 
>> Capitan, when Skim.app reloads a pdf, the viewing position was preserved the 
>> same. For example, if I was viewing the bottom of a page, the position is 
>> still the same.
>>  
>> But this changed after I upgraded the OS to macOS Sierra, which I regret. 
>> Now refreshing makes Skim.app jump to the page top. For example, if I was 
>> viewing the middle of page 3, after the pdf file is changed (usually by 
>> pdflatex), Skim.app changes the position to the top of page 3. On my other 
>> mac running El Capitan, the position does not change. It's only under Sierra 
>> that the position jumps to the top of a page. The version is 1.4.21 (95) on 
>> both machines.
>>  
>> Would there be a way to avoid the position change under Sierra?
>>  
>> Thank you.
>>  
>> Chirok
>>  
>  
> I have had several reports about problems in automatic scrolling in Sierra. 
> It looks like PDFKit has a bug there, when we tell it to scroll to some 
> position it often does not do that. I have reported a bug about this already, 
> but it looks to be a more general problem than I thought at first. 
> Unfortunately there is nothing we can do about this, Apple needs to fix this 
> in PDFKit.
>  
> Christiaan
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Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim.app jump to page top when refreshing under Sierra

2016-09-22 Thread Chirok Han
Many thanks for your quick reply. I'll then have to consider downgrading to El 
Capitan.

 

Chirok

 

 

From: Christiaan Hofman 
Reply-To: For general discussion about using Skim 

Date: Thursday, 22 September 2016 at 11:51 PM
To: For general discussion about using Skim 

Subject: Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim.app jump to page top when refreshing under 
Sierra

 

 

On Sep 22, 2016, at 16:46, Chirok Han  wrote:

 

Hi all,

 

Skim.app is excellent. I use it all the time.

 

I have a question about Skim's behavior when refreshing a pdf file. Under El 
Capitan, when Skim.app reloads a pdf, the viewing position was preserved the 
same. For example, if I was viewing the bottom of a page, the position is still 
the same.

 

But this changed after I upgraded the OS to macOS Sierra, which I regret. Now 
refreshing makes Skim.app jump to the page top. For example, if I was viewing 
the middle of page 3, after the pdf file is changed (usually by pdflatex), 
Skim.app changes the position to the top of page 3. On my other mac running El 
Capitan, the position does not change. It's only under Sierra that the position 
jumps to the top of a page. The version is 1.4.21 (95) on both machines.

 

Would there be a way to avoid the position change under Sierra?

 

Thank you.

 

Chirok

 

 

I have had several reports about problems in automatic scrolling in Sierra. It 
looks like PDFKit has a bug there, when we tell it to scroll to some position 
it often does not do that. I have reported a bug about this already, but it 
looks to be a more general problem than I thought at first. Unfortunately there 
is nothing we can do about this, Apple needs to fix this in PDFKit.

 

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Re: [Skim-app-users] Skim.app jump to page top when refreshing under Sierra

2016-09-22 Thread Christiaan Hofman

> On Sep 22, 2016, at 16:46, Chirok Han  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> Skim.app is excellent. I use it all the time.
>  
> I have a question about Skim's behavior when refreshing a pdf file. Under El 
> Capitan, when Skim.app reloads a pdf, the viewing position was preserved the 
> same. For example, if I was viewing the bottom of a page, the position is 
> still the same.
>  
> But this changed after I upgraded the OS to macOS Sierra, which I regret. Now 
> refreshing makes Skim.app jump to the page top. For example, if I was viewing 
> the middle of page 3, after the pdf file is changed (usually by pdflatex), 
> Skim.app changes the position to the top of page 3. On my other mac running 
> El Capitan, the position does not change. It's only under Sierra that the 
> position jumps to the top of a page. The version is 1.4.21 (95) on both 
> machines.
>  
> Would there be a way to avoid the position change under Sierra?
>  
> Thank you.
>  
> Chirok
>  

I have had several reports about problems in automatic scrolling in Sierra. It 
looks like PDFKit has a bug there, when we tell it to scroll to some position 
it often does not do that. I have reported a bug about this already, but it 
looks to be a more general problem than I thought at first. Unfortunately there 
is nothing we can do about this, Apple needs to fix this in PDFKit.

Christiaan

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