[SLUG] Firewall security audit report

2001-02-27 Thread chesty
We had our linux firewalls audited and I wanted to get some opinions on some of the issues raised. We were advised to turn sshd PasswordAuthentication off because it allows clear text passwords. hey? That doesn't sound right. Mount partitions read only where possible. I guess this is a good

[SLUG] mp32wav

2001-02-27 Thread Rodos
I have some parody songs I downloaded of the net as .mp3 files. How do I convert them into wav files to then get cdrecord to create me an audio cd? I saw some references to mp32wav but could not find any real code or examples. I am sure there is a simple way to do this, just as there is for

[SLUG] porting serially

2001-02-27 Thread jimd
Hi, If you need to get a small file from one RH6.2 machine to another, and can't use networking, floppy, Zip etc but have a null modem, how do you pipe data into/out of ttyS1? I tried it with cat; the results were recognisable but damaged owing to lack of stop/start control. Cheers, Jim Donovan

Re: [SLUG] Firewall security audit report

2001-02-27 Thread Howard Lowndes
-- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates http://lannetlinux.com "...well, it worked before _you_ touched it!" --me "I trust just one person, and there are times when I don't even trust myself"

Re: [SLUG] mp32wav

2001-02-27 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who="Rodos" How do I convert them into wav files to then get cdrecord to create me an audio cd? For conversion: mpg123 -w wav file output input.mp3 (Do this with a for loop for a whole stack of files.) For burnage: cdrecord dev=0,0,0 speed=8 -pad -audio *.wav - Jeff --

Re: [SLUG] porting serially

2001-02-27 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" If you need to get a small file from one RH6.2 machine to another, and can't use networking, floppy, Zip etc but have a null modem, how do you pipe data into/out of ttyS1? You can set up a SLIP connection between the two, or use minicom to do a

Re: [SLUG] Hmmm ... I asked the wrong Question ...

2001-02-27 Thread Steve Kowalik
On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 02:04:13PM +1100, Jason Rennie uttered: Hi again, Have i missed anything ? Yes! man xbill :-) Jason -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug --

Re: [SLUG] porting serially

2001-02-27 Thread Crossfire
[EMAIL PROTECTED] was once rumoured to have said: Hi, If you need to get a small file from one RH6.2 machine to another, and can't use networking, floppy, Zip etc but have a null modem, how do you pipe data into/out of ttyS1? I tried it with cat; the results were recognisable but damaged

Re: [SLUG] Firewall security audit report

2001-02-27 Thread Crossfire
Howard Lowndes was once rumoured to have said: On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, chesty wrote: We had our linux firewalls audited and I wanted to get some opinions on some of the issues raised. We were advised to turn sshd PasswordAuthentication off because it allows clear text passwords. hey? That

Re: [SLUG] mp32wav

2001-02-27 Thread Dave Fitch
On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 10:09:40PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who="Rodos" How do I convert them into wav files to then get cdrecord to create me an audio cd? For conversion: mpg123 -w wav file output input.mp3 I think sox does it too. Dave. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group

Re: [SLUG] mp32wav

2001-02-27 Thread Rodos
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Jeff Waugh wrote: mpg123 -w wav file output input.mp3 cdrecord dev=0,0,0 speed=8 -pad -audio *.wav Thanks Jeff, thats exactly what I was looking for. One CD created and working just fine. No coasters here. Rodos -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | C makes it easy to shoot

Re: [SLUG] Firewall security audit report

2001-02-27 Thread Scott Howard
On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 09:49:33PM +1100, chesty wrote: We had our linux firewalls audited and I wanted to get some opinions on some of the issues raised. The good old firewall audit... Yet to find an auditor who returns a worthwhile report... We were advised to turn sshd

Re: [SLUG] Firewall security audit report

2001-02-27 Thread Ian Tester
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, chesty wrote: We were advised to turn sshd PasswordAuthentication off because it allows clear text passwords. hey? That doesn't sound right. from ssh(1): If other authentication methods fail, ssh prompts the user for a pass- word. The password is sent to the

Re: [SLUG] mp32wav

2001-02-27 Thread Ian Tester
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Rodos wrote: On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Jeff Waugh wrote: mpg123 -w wav file output input.mp3 cdrecord dev=0,0,0 speed=8 -pad -audio *.wav Thanks Jeff, thats exactly what I was looking for. One CD created and working just fine. No coasters here. If you're looking

Re: [SLUG] Firewall security audit report

2001-02-27 Thread chesty
On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 09:18:25PM +1100, Terry Collins wrote: Mount partitions read only where possible. I guess this is a good idea, but in what situation would this add security? You need to be root to be able to write to the partitions that I could mount read only, and if someone gets

[SLUG] Can't sleep for the NFS

2001-02-27 Thread Jeff Waugh
*yawn* No, I'm not up sysadminning or whatever, I'm just unwell. :) I'd love to say I was still up hacking, but I can't concentrate *that* much. Anyway, I've been pondering how to go about NFS mounting user directories, for X terminals and other uses. Is it best just to mount /home at boot and

[SLUG] Text calendar program

2001-02-27 Thread Richard Piper
I have been looking for a reasonably sophisticated text-based calendar/diary (something like pine for email). Does anyone have any suggestions? thanks Richard Richard Piper Intensive Care Unit Royal North Shore Hospital Sydney, Australia Work (612) 9926-8617 or 8656 Home (612) 9419-2339 Pager

Re: [SLUG] Firewall security audit report

2001-02-27 Thread Howard Lowndes
-- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates http://lannetlinux.com "...well, it worked before _you_ touched it!" --me "I trust just one person, and there are times when I don't even trust myself"

Re: [SLUG] Firewall security audit report

2001-02-27 Thread Terry Collins
chesty wrote: On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 09:18:25PM +1100, Terry Collins wrote: Mount partitions read only where possible. I guess this is a good idea, but in what situation would this add security? You need to be root to be able to write to the partitions that I could mount read

Re: [SLUG] Text calendar program

2001-02-27 Thread Howard Lowndes
Not quite what you are asking, but ical has a nice facility to create a text list for a perios span. I use this with a cron job to email me my diary (forward 5 days) each morning. cron job: 02 02 * * * /usr/bin/ical -calendar /home/lannet/.calendar -list | mail -s "Your next 5 day

Re: [SLUG] Text calendar program

2001-02-27 Thread Terry Collins
Richard Piper wrote: I have been looking for a reasonably sophisticated text-based calendar/diary (something like pine for email). Does anyone have any suggestions? emacs has one ducks off to gosford for the day {:-). -- Terry Collins {:-)}}} Ph(02) 4627 2186 Fax(02) 4628 7861

Re: [SLUG] Can't sleep for the NFS

2001-02-27 Thread Crossfire
Jeff Waugh was once rumoured to have said: *yawn* No, I'm not up sysadminning or whatever, I'm just unwell. :) I'd love to say I was still up hacking, but I can't concentrate *that* much. Anyway, I've been pondering how to go about NFS mounting user directories, for X terminals and other

Re: [SLUG] Firewall security audit report

2001-02-27 Thread Dave Fitch
On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 11:54:20PM +1100, Ian Tester wrote: On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, chesty wrote: We were advised to turn sshd PasswordAuthentication off because it allows clear text passwords. hey? That doesn't sound right. from ssh(1): If other authentication methods fail, ssh

Re: [SLUG] Firewall security audit report

2001-02-27 Thread Howard Lowndes
The key word is "tunneled". The traffic is still encrypted. The PasswordAuthentication option avoids or allows using the account password at all. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates http://lannetlinux.com "...well, it worked before _you_

Re: [SLUG] Firewall security audit report

2001-02-27 Thread Conrad Parker
On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 08:00:58AM +1100, Dave Fitch wrote: On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 11:54:20PM +1100, Ian Tester wrote: from ssh(1): If other authentication methods fail, ssh prompts the user for a pass- word. The password is sent to the remote host for checking; however,

Re: [SLUG] porting serially

2001-02-27 Thread Ken Yap
|If you need to get a small file from one RH6.2 machine to |another, and can't use networking, floppy, Zip etc |but have a null modem, how do you pipe data into/out of ttyS1? Try kermit. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info:

[SLUG] Apt cache file corrupt...

2001-02-27 Thread Steven downing
I sucked down Sid the other night, and along the way one file failed to download, I was using 'apt-get -d' so I could monitor the update later. So I grabbed this file, and a couple of others on a 'doze box at work and put them on a floppy, with the intention of using 'apt-cache add'. But when I

Re: [SLUG] Firewall security audit report - advice. :)

2001-02-27 Thread Umar Goldeli
We were advised to turn sshd PasswordAuthentication off because it allows clear text passwords. hey? That doesn't sound right. pass PasswordAuthentication allows the use of an account even if you don't have a key on the box.. i.e. all you have to know is a username and password.. and

Re: [SLUG] Firewall security audit report

2001-02-27 Thread Umar Goldeli
I concurr with Howard - but their suggestion is legitimate - but for a different reason. PasswordAuthentication means you're relying upon users to pick sensible passwords. Its actually best to make sure nobody but your administrators have access to your firewall systems Unfortunately,

Re: [SLUG] Firewall security audit report

2001-02-27 Thread Umar Goldeli
The good old firewall audit... Yet to find an auditor who returns a worthwhile report... It is only too true... most "auditors" are not very useful.. *sigh* Of course, you could just upload something into a different partition which is read-write (/etc maybe?), but given that we're

Re: [SLUG] Firewall security audit report

2001-02-27 Thread Howard Lowndes
I actually burn my private keys, locked with an access phrase, onto one of those credit card CDs, together with teraterm software so that I can support my client's from anywhere that I have Windows and Internet access. For Linux and Internet access then I only need the keys as the clients have

Re: [SLUG] Firewall security audit report

2001-02-27 Thread Umar Goldeli
Non root users can't write to it because of file permissions, root users can remount it read write. You haven't convinced me. Reading other peoples responses I can see some value in it. You've said it yourself - root can remount rw.. again, you're assuming initial root access. :) Are you

Re: [SLUG] Firewall security audit report - advice. :)

2001-02-27 Thread Howard Lowndes
OK, next question. What's the RTFM for this? -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates http://lannetlinux.com "...well, it worked before _you_ touched it!" --me "I trust just one person, and there are times when I don't even trust myself"

Re: [SLUG] Firewall security audit report

2001-02-27 Thread Howard Lowndes
How many times is this a service provided by a large accounting firm using green behind the ears accounting grads with a minor in IT. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates http://lannetlinux.com "...well, it worked before _you_ touched it!"

[SLUG] Security Breach

2001-02-27 Thread Sean Carmody
Last night I experienced a security breach. I run a small lan with a ppp dial-up connection that is often left connected. It seems that at 11pm an email containing the output of ifconfig and the contents of the passwd files was sent by root to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Luckily the mail was bounced by our

Re: [SLUG] Firewall security audit report

2001-02-27 Thread Umar Goldeli
*Every*time. :) And the procedure is pulled form an outdated copy of the ACS "audit questions guide" or simply the output of: /bin/satan-like-product address-range :) //umar. On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Howard Lowndes wrote: How many times is this a service provided by a large accounting firm

Re: [SLUG] mp32wav

2001-02-27 Thread Jason Rennie
I am sure there is a simple way to do this, just as there is for ripping a CD to mp3s. xmms has an output to wave option. Instead of to the speakers. Jason -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] Firewall security audit report - advice. :)

2001-02-27 Thread Umar Goldeli
mounting noexec and nosuid? man mount also, mount it "nodev" as well for flavour. :) //umar. On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Howard Lowndes wrote: OK, next question. What's the RTFM for this? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info:

Re: [SLUG] Security Breach

2001-02-27 Thread Umar Goldeli
Feb 28 01:53:07 emu portmap[12152]: connect from 202.157.133.184 to getport(status): request from unauthorized host Why are you rnning the portmapper? Turn it off if youdon't specifically need it. a "netstat -an | grep LISTEN" will show you "evilthings(tm)" ;) If you don't recognize it as

RE: [SLUG] Security Breach

2001-02-27 Thread Bernhard Lüder
Hi, In this context. What is port 587 and 1024. I couldn't find these in /etc/services tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:587 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:10240.0.0.0:* LISTEN Bernhard Lder This electronic mail is solely for the

RE: [SLUG] Security Breach

2001-02-27 Thread Umar Goldeli
"netstat -ean" will tell you which uid is listening on those ports. //umar. On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, [iso-8859-1] Bernhard Lüder wrote: Hi, In this context. What is port 587 and 1024. I couldn't find these in /etc/services tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:587 0.0.0.0:*

RE: [SLUG] Security Breach

2001-02-27 Thread Adrian Chiang
Robert Graham's website has some info on port 1024: http://www.robertgraham.com/pubs/firewall-seen.html quoted below - "1024 - Many people ask the question what this port is used for. The answer is that this is the first port number in the dynamic range of ports. Many applications don't care

[SLUG] Basic Unix commands

2001-02-27 Thread Ken Foskey
Jason, A couple of extra's How do I create a floppy disk from Unix. How do I print from Unix, how do I change print settings. KenF -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] Security Breach

2001-02-27 Thread John Clarke
To find out which process is listening on a port, use fuser, e.g.: [root@dropbear ~]# fuser -n tcp 53 53/tcp: 17479 [root@dropbear ~]# ps ax|grep 17479 17479 ? S0:29 named -u named Cheers, John -- "Every time I have to pipe something into awk I get this mental picture of

Re: [SLUG] Security Breach

2001-02-27 Thread kevin
Adrian Chiang wrote: Robert Graham's website has some info on port 1024: http://www.robertgraham.com/pubs/firewall-seen.html quoted below - "1024 - Many people ask the question what this port is used for. The answer is that this is the first port number in the dynamic range of ports.

Re: [SLUG] ResierFS dependancies?

2001-02-27 Thread Alexander Else
Hadn't tried beyond 2.4.0 (i should've been more specific in my post). On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Michael Covi wrote: It's in 2.4.1 and later. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] Security Breach

2001-02-27 Thread Simon Bowden
Hi, This occurred to me as well last night - I think around 3am. Similarly, it was discovered because the mail destination domain could not be found. However, I think this is because somewhere in teh process of getting in, they broke my local named (i wasnt working in the morning) - that or

[SLUG] How to make program to respond program delivery in Netscape Messaging Server

2001-02-27 Thread Le Nhu Hai
Hi everybody, I am using Netscape Messaging Server 4.1 (both on Solaris NT 4.0). Netscape offers "Program Delivery" function wich enable a program auto-run when a new mail arrived. I had read some guide docs from Netscape (Admin Docs, Messaging Access SDK,...) but they don't tell me how does

[SLUG] mice/Debian

2001-02-27 Thread David
simple things that make me weep. I'm installing a new Debian and can't get the mouse to work. I doubt it's hardware, because: This box is a test bed, and yesterday this mouse worked fine under SuSE; The mouse works through a switch and works fine on three other boxes; I haven't moved the

[SLUG] CD record

2001-02-27 Thread Ken Foskey
Just reading the cdrecord setup for ATAPI it recommends that I add a line like the last one in my lilo.conf image = /boot/win4lin label = cdr read-only root = /dev/hda3 hdc = ide-scsi The last line, but this gives me: Added cdr Syntax error

Re: [SLUG] mice/Debian

2001-02-27 Thread Crossfire
David was once rumoured to have said: simple things that make me weep. I'm installing a new Debian and can't get the mouse to work. I doubt it's hardware, because: This box is a test bed, and yesterday this mouse worked fine under SuSE; The mouse works through a switch and works fine

Re: [SLUG] CD record

2001-02-27 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who="Ken Foskey" hdc = ide-scsi The last line, but this gives me: Added cdr Syntax error near line 23 in file /etc/lilo.conf Change it to: append="hdc=ide-scsi" SmartArses [EMAIL PROTECTED], I cannot afford a real SCSI drive :-} Bah. Waste of money for a

Re: [SLUG] CD record

2001-02-27 Thread Crossfire
Ken Foskey was once rumoured to have said: Just reading the cdrecord setup for ATAPI it recommends that I add a line like the last one in my lilo.conf image = /boot/win4lin label = cdr read-only root = /dev/hda3 hdc = ide-scsi The last line, but this

Re: [SLUG] Basic Unix commands

2001-02-27 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 12:55:51PM +1100, Ken Foskey wrote: How do I create a floppy disk from Unix. There are many ways, but one of the most useful is the "mtools" utilities. If you find and install them, you can then use mformat, mcopy mdir, and so on, and treat it just like a DOS floppy.

Re: [SLUG] How to make program to respond program delivery in NetscapeMessaging Server

2001-02-27 Thread Rick Welykochy
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Le Nhu Hai wrote: Hi everybody, I am using Netscape Messaging Server 4.1 (both on Solaris NT 4.0). Netscape offers "Program Delivery" function wich enable a program auto-run when a new mail arrived. I had read some guide docs from Netscape (Admin Docs, Messaging

RE: [SLUG] Apt cache file corrupt...

2001-02-27 Thread Visser, Martin (SNO)
--8- E:The package cache file is corrupted. --8- Did you hear that? Hear what? I think it's the sound of all the apt-get fans running for cover! ;-) Martin Visser Technology Consultant - Compaq

Re: [SLUG] Apt cache file corrupt...

2001-02-27 Thread Crossfire
Steven downing was once rumoured to have said: [Details snipped] This seems (to me!) to imply some kind of lack of memory (MMap??) So I made sure nothing much was running and tried again, but every subsequent apt-cache add came up with.. E:The package cache file is corrupted. Which made

[SLUG] Re: Security Breaches

2001-02-27 Thread Rebecca Richards
Hi Everyone, From: Umar Goldeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sean Carmody [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Security Breach Feb 28 01:53:07 emu portmap[12152]: connect from 202.157.133.184 to getport(status): request from unauthorized host Why are you rnning the portmapper? Turn it off

Re: [SLUG] Security Breach

2001-02-27 Thread Howard Lowndes
If it got the contents of /etc/shadow then they got root as that file is normally only readable by root. Big worry. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates http://lannetlinux.com "...well, it worked before _you_ touched it!" --me "I trust

Re: [SLUG] Apt cache file corrupt...

2001-02-27 Thread Steven downing
Crossfire [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28/02/01 15:16:26 Steven downing was once rumoured to have said: [Details snipped] E:The package cache file is corrupted. Which made me think the .deb was corrupted via Windows stoopidnes (It might still be I guess), but closer reading leads me to think the

[SLUG] Silly eth question.

2001-02-27 Thread Martin
Hi guys, situation: 2 ethernet cards, both Netgear FA310tx both detected fine. question is, is there any way to tell which physical card is eth0 and which is eth1 ? and, will they always be detected in the same order ? (ie. so that eth0 will always refer to the same physical card) thanks

Re: [SLUG] Silly eth question.

2001-02-27 Thread John Ferlito
On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 03:52:42PM +1100, Martin wrote: 2 ethernet cards, both Netgear FA310tx both detected fine. question is, is there any way to tell which physical card is eth0 and which is eth1 ? I just usually plug some ethernet in and bring one device up and swap the

Re: [SLUG] Re: Security Breaches

2001-02-27 Thread Crossfire
Rebecca Richards was once rumoured to have said: Hi Everyone, Hey There! From: Umar Goldeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sean Carmody [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Security Breach Feb 28 01:53:07 emu portmap[12152]: connect from 202.157.133.184 to getport(status): request from

Re: [SLUG] Silly eth question.

2001-02-27 Thread Crossfire
John Ferlito was once rumoured to have said: On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 03:52:42PM +1100, Martin wrote: 2 ethernet cards, both Netgear FA310tx both detected fine. question is, is there any way to tell which physical card is eth0 and which is eth1 ? I just usually plug some ethernet

Re: [SLUG] Silly eth question.

2001-02-27 Thread Martin
Ping them and watch the traffic from the port. i'll give that a go... In a given hardware setup, yes. Once you swap slots, change motherboards, things may change. i read something just after i sent that message that detection order (and hence the numbering) was reliant on which PCI slot

Re: [SLUG] Apt cache file corrupt...

2001-02-27 Thread Matthew Dalton
Steven downing wrote: 'Apt-get update' updates the list of available packages yeah? And I was thinking that the packages cache file (/var/cache/apt/packages.bin??), was an index of files which had been downloaded from a network source (and possibly not yet installed on the system) Read

Re: [SLUG] Re: Security Breaches

2001-02-27 Thread Umar Goldeli
a "netstat -an | grep LISTEN" will show you "evilthings(tm)" ;) Not necessarily. Some rootkits have nobbled the "netstat", "ps" and other system binaries, so that they don't show up suspicious processes/listening ports/logged in users. Agreed thoroughly. But remember, this is

Re: [SLUG] Re: Security Breaches

2001-02-27 Thread Crossfire
Umar Goldeli was once rumoured to have said: Perhaps we should have another SLUG meeting on security with a QA session or a BOF session (or even a BOFH session ;) I'll be up for a BOFH session :) Maybe we'll have to declare thursday night at the SLUG stand as BOFH night ;) C. --

Re: [SLUG] Basic Unix commands

2001-02-27 Thread Michael Lake
Ken Foskey wrote: How do I create a floppy disk from Unix. 1. to format a floppy disk under Linux you use the 'fdformat' command. The man pages for this ie 'man fdformat' will tell you heaps. Example: to format the first floppy disk which is fd0 to High Density 1.44 Meg we use: (the

Re: [SLUG] Silly eth question.

2001-02-27 Thread Howard Lowndes
I had this the other day. Both cards identical, but one had a cable connected and the other didn't. The one with the cable connected got eth0 even though it was in the further PCI slot than the other card. So I guess there must be a number of factors. I shall have to try them with the cable

Re: [SLUG] Re: Security Breaches

2001-02-27 Thread Umar Goldeli
...or keep this discussion on list for those who cannot get to SLUG meetings. Or both.. I'd be happy to do a presentation or a QA session on security if anyone's interested.. and consdering that a lot of people on this list are admins or working in IT - it'd be quite good to keep it on

Re: [SLUG] Re: Security Breaches

2001-02-27 Thread Howard Lowndes
...or keep this discussion on list for those who cannot get to SLUG meetings. BTW, when you do a backup to tape, would that not alter the atime? -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates http://lannetlinux.com "...well, it worked before _you_

Re: [SLUG] Re: Security Breaches

2001-02-27 Thread Umar Goldeli
BTW, when you do a backup to tape, would that not alter the atime? Oh one more thing - it will alter the atime on /dev/sdb1 (or whatever) - but that's not exactly going to be useful anyway. With the /dev tree - mainly you're concerned with dodgy devices - a lot of people make a /dev/rpty123 or

Re: [SLUG] Re: Security Breaches

2001-02-27 Thread Crossfire
Umar Goldeli was once rumoured to have said: ...or keep this discussion on list for those who cannot get to SLUG meetings. Or both.. I'd be happy to do a presentation or a QA session on security if anyone's interested.. and consdering that a lot of people on this list are admins or

Re: [SLUG] Firewall security audit report

2001-02-27 Thread chesty
On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 10:49:32AM +1100, Umar Goldeli wrote: Are you serious? if someone gets in the game is over, they already know enough about the box, wouldn't you say? The above statement is not exactly correct, but yes they do know about the box somewhat, and even if the man pages

Re: [SLUG] Firewall security audit report

2001-02-27 Thread chesty
On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 10:15:13AM +1100, Umar Goldeli wrote: Removing binaries just means the attackers have to get them in via some other means. Indeed. You're buying time. Time is good. If your attacker can't readily telnet, ftp, ssh, scp, rcp, wget, lynx etc - he's going to have to