Re: [SLUG] Which fs is best ...

2004-09-13 Thread James Gregory
On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 15:09 +1000, Jason Rennie wrote: Which linux file system is best for storing large files (Big MPEG and AVI files specifically) ? I'm guessing ext2/3 is not the best choice, but I don't really know which to choose from Reiser, XFS or JFS. What are peoples experiences

Re: [SLUG] OT: solid text on translucent background

2004-09-13 Thread James Gregory
On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 15:43 +1000, Peter Rundle wrote: Sluggers, After no luck googling for a solution I've decided to post this possibly off topic question to the wisdom of slug (well the web server is apache on Linux and the client is Mozilla or Firefox on Linux). I'm trying to create

Re: [SLUG] Which fs is best ...

2004-09-13 Thread Felix Sheldon
Jason Rennie wrote: JFS has been pretty good for me, and I'm guessing that it's more unlikely to eat all my data than a fancy bleeding-edge filesystem. Good large file performance ? Dunno really, seems OK =) I don't do anything serious enough to stress it probably. What exactly did

Re: [SLUG] Which fs is best ...

2004-09-13 Thread Felix Sheldon
Jason Rennie wrote: Which linux file system is best for storing large files (Big MPEG and AVI files specifically) ? I'm guessing ext2/3 is not the best choice, but I don't really know which to choose from Reiser, XFS or JFS. What are peoples experiences with such things ? Jason JFS has been

Re: [SLUG] OT: solid text on translucent background

2004-09-13 Thread John Clarke
On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 04:09:00 +1000, James Gregory wrote: On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 15:43 +1000, Peter Rundle wrote: I'm trying to create an area on a web page with a translucent background but with solid text inside that area. I'm trying to do it using a style sheet. I can get the

Re: [SLUG] NTFS vs EXT3

2004-09-13 Thread Crossfire
James Gregory was once rumoured to have said: On Sat, 2004-09-11 at 13:02 +1000, Rod Butcher wrote: Can anybody tell me about or point me to writing on differences between comparative strengths weaknesses of EXT3 NTFS ? I used NTFS for years and found it bulletproof, in fact the only

Re: [SLUG] Elementary symlink question

2004-09-13 Thread Ian Wienand
On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 04:04:43PM +1000, Matthew Davidson wrote: lrwxrwxrwx 1 mdavids mdavids 12 2004-09-13 15:52 application - version/0.3/ -rw-r--r-- 1 mdavids mdavids0 2004-09-13 15:43 file drwxr-sr-x 5 mdavids mdavids 4096 2004-09-13 15:51 version [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/test$ cd

[SLUG] Elementary symlink question

2004-09-13 Thread Matthew Davidson
Hi, I'm missing something very fundamental about symlinks. Say I want to test some trivial little program I've written, but want to make it easy to switch between revisions. I thought the following should work: lrwxrwxrwx 1 mdavids mdavids 12 2004-09-13 15:52 application - version/0.3/

Re: [SLUG] Elementary symlink question

2004-09-13 Thread Rick Welykochy
Matthew Davidson wrote: Hi, I'm missing something very fundamental about symlinks. Say I want to test some trivial little program I've written, but want to make it easy to switch between revisions. I thought the following should work: lrwxrwxrwx 1 mdavids mdavids 12 2004-09-13 15:52

Re: [SLUG] Which fs is best ...

2004-09-13 Thread Alexander Samad
On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 04:06:06PM +1000, James Gregory wrote: On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 15:09 +1000, Jason Rennie wrote: Which linux file system is best for storing large files (Big MPEG and AVI files specifically) ? I'm guessing ext2/3 is not the best choice, but I don't really know

Re: [SLUG] Which fs is best ...

2004-09-13 Thread James Gregory
On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 17:29 +1000, Alexander Samad wrote: On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 04:06:06PM +1000, James Gregory wrote: On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 15:09 +1000, Jason Rennie wrote: Which linux file system is best for storing large files (Big MPEG and AVI files specifically) ? I'm

Re: [SLUG] escaping variables in bash

2004-09-13 Thread Peter Chubb
Alexander == Alexander Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alexander Hi Quick question for the list Alexander I am trying to do something like this Alexander #!/bin/bash Alexander SOMEVARIABLE Alexander VAR2=$( awk -F, /$SOMEVARIABLE/ /some/pathtoafile/) eval VAR2=`awk -F -F,

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[SLUG] ATI Radeon, Video Out and MythTv

2004-09-13 Thread Jason Rennie
Hi all, Has anybody had any experience with the ATI Radeon and its video out capability ? I've got a Radeon 9600 VIVO and MythTV (with a couple of ht eplugins for playing stuff back) looks perfect for converting my exisiting WinXP based PC/DVD player to linux. IT says that the ATI cards are a

Re: [SLUG] ATI Radeon, Video Out and MythTv

2004-09-13 Thread Jan Schmidt
quote who=Jason Rennie Has anybody had any experience with the ATI Radeon and its video out capability ? I've got a Radeon 9600 VIVO and MythTV (with a couple of ht eplugins for playing stuff back) looks perfect for converting my exisiting WinXP based PC/DVD player to linux. Especially on

Re: [SLUG] ATI Radeon, Video Out and MythTv

2004-09-13 Thread Jason Rennie
Thank you Jan, I'll check the binary only drivers out then. Jason -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

FW: [SLUG] USB dilemma

2004-09-13 Thread Elliott-Brennan
All Hail to James :) (sorry for the length of this one) James suggested that I check my BIOS - which prompted me to recall that I had loaded Mandrake on *another* machine. A quick check and there it was 'usb disabled'. Should have checked first, I know (mea culpa, mea culpa) Enabled and there

Re: [SLUG] Which fs is best ...

2004-09-13 Thread Lindsay Holmwood
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:13:37 +1000 Felix Sheldon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read about JFS when SCO was claiming ownership of it. If I was going to go to all the trouble of stealing it from SCO I thought I may as well have a look at it. =) I have stuck with it after some initial playing

Re: [SLUG] escaping variables in bash

2004-09-13 Thread James Gray
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 03:45 pm, Alexander Samad wrote: On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 03:20:37PM +1000, James Gray wrote: On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 02:17 pm, Alexander Samad wrote: Hi Quick question for the list I am trying to do something like this #!/bin/bash SOMEVARIABLE VAR2=$( awk

Re: [SLUG] Which fs is best ...

2004-09-13 Thread Jason Rennie
Thanks for the tip. Good to know given I am usnig gentoo. At the moment I have gone with ReiserFS, but i'm not at a point where I cannot backout and change my mind. BTW, if anybody knows, is the NTFS linux driver very slow ? It is taking hours and hours to copy about 50GB of data. I knew it

Re: [SLUG] Which fs is best ...

2004-09-13 Thread David Kempe
Jason Rennie wrote: BTW, if anybody knows, is the NTFS linux driver very slow ? It is taking hours and hours to copy about 50GB of data. I knew it would take a while, but this is ridiculous. I have copied about 20gb of data in a very short time - I don't think it suffers from any glaring

Re: [SLUG] Which fs is best ...

2004-09-13 Thread O Plameras
Am using a combo of EXT3, JFS, and REISERFS on one server for about a year with extremely pleasing results. Many files are MP3 on networks over SAMBA. [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# ssh otr [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: Last login: Mon Sep 13 22:18:54 2004 from compaq.noy.com.au [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [SLUG] Which fs is best ...

2004-09-13 Thread Rod Butcher
I found shifting gigabytes of NTFS data on a linux box about the same speed as ext3 data i.e. a few minutes for 5 gig. So I wouln't expect 50 gig to take more than 15 mins. The partitions were on separate drives. Rod --- Brought to you by a

Re: [SLUG] Which fs is best ...

2004-09-13 Thread Matthew Lambie
David Kempe wrote: Jason Rennie wrote: BTW, if anybody knows, is the NTFS linux driver very slow ? It is taking hours and hours to copy about 50GB of data. I knew it would take a while, but this is ridiculous. I have copied about 20gb of data in a very short time - I don't think it suffers from

[SLUG] terminal broken on 2.6.8

2004-09-13 Thread Rod Butcher
Still can't get any terminal (gnome, Konsole, xterm) to work on 2.6.8 - they all load ok and display a cursor but won't allow text input. I saw a note on Mandrake website about them having this with 10.2 beta. I checked my VT kernel compile options and they all look the same as what I used for

Re: [SLUG] GRUB and RAID1.

2004-09-13 Thread amos
Ryan Tsai wrote: Yeah, the rather unfortunate fact that /boot lives about 100GB into the disk. Actually wait a moment, does GRUB have the same limitations about where /boot needs to be? I had assumed that it does because LILO does. That's something to research. LILO embeds the config file in

Re: [SLUG] NTFS vs EXT3

2004-09-13 Thread amos
Crossfire wrote: Unfortunately, a fsck is not the only tool required in data backup and recovery - the big issue with reiser for serious deployment has been its lack of dump/restore -- something which both ext2 and xfs have. C. Why is dump/restore so critical for recovery? What's wrong with

Re: [SLUG] NTFS vs EXT3

2004-09-13 Thread Crossfire
[EMAIL PROTECTED] was once rumoured to have said: Crossfire wrote: Unfortunately, a fsck is not the only tool required in data backup and recovery - the big issue with reiser for serious deployment has been its lack of dump/restore -- something which both ext2 and xfs have. C. Why

Re: [SLUG] escaping variables in bash

2004-09-13 Thread Crossfire
Alexander Samad was once rumoured to have said: On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 03:20:37PM +1000, James Gray wrote: The enclosing a variable between curly braces, eg, ${foo} will force the shell to expand the variable's content regardless of whether it is inside single or double quotes. IIRC.

Re: [SLUG] terminal broken on 2.6.8

2004-09-13 Thread James Gregory
On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 22:32 +1000, Rod Butcher wrote: What should I look for ? Can't find any error meesages in logs. I'm sure this is a minor config change issue rather than a bug. I know I can go back to 2.6.7 but it'd be good to learn something from this which is part of my linux

Re: [SLUG] terminal broken on 2.6.8

2004-09-13 Thread James Gregory
On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 22:32 +1000, Rod Butcher wrote: What should I look for ? Can't find any error meesages in logs. I'm sure this is a minor config change issue rather than a bug. I know I can go back to 2.6.7 but it'd be good to learn something from this which is part of my linux

[SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] Sydney PostgreSQL User Group - inaugural meeting

2004-09-13 Thread Julian Grodzicky
Dear Anand, I'm interested in coming along. I'm a newbie to Linux and am still trying to figure out how to use the MySQL that came bundled with OpenOffice.org, lack of operational knowledge/experience of RDB's not withstanding. What is the major difference? Can PostgreSQL be used as a GIS?

Re: [SLUG] NTFS vs EXT3

2004-09-13 Thread Michael Chesterton
Crossfire [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That, and dump usually offers a guaranty of backup integrity when used against live filesystems. Since 2.4 kernel developers have said dump is broken on live filesystems. Has that situation changed? here's a link

Re: [SLUG] terminal broken on 2.6.8

2004-09-13 Thread Peter Chubb
Rod == Rod Butcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rod Still can't get any terminal (gnome, Konsole, xterm) to work on Rod 2.6.8 - they all load ok and display a cursor but won't allow Is this a serial terminal you're talking about? Or a keyboard+monitor connected directly to your machine? If the

RE: [SLUG] Debian sarge on vmware

2004-09-13 Thread Robert Tillsley
Oops, yep, that was it. Very silly of me. Cheers Robert Tillsley Network Administrator St Vincent's College www.stvincents.nsw.edu.au -Original Message- From: Ryan Tsai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 13 September 2004 11:07 AM To: Robert Tillsley Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] Sydney PostgreSQL User Group - inauguralmeeting

2004-09-13 Thread Terry Collins
Julian Grodzicky wrote: Can PostgreSQL be used as a GIS? If you are using MySQL, then Postgress should work. They are both databases. GIS is Geographic Information System? -- Terry Collins {:-)}}} email: terryc at woa.com.au www: http://www.woa.com.au Wombat Outdoor Adventures

Re: [SLUG] Elementary symlink question

2004-09-13 Thread Matthew Davidson
On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 16:40, Ian Wienand wrote: On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 04:04:43PM +1000, Matthew Davidson wrote: lrwxrwxrwx 1 mdavids mdavids 12 2004-09-13 15:52 application - version/0.3/ -rw-r--r-- 1 mdavids mdavids0 2004-09-13 15:43 file drwxr-sr-x 5 mdavids mdavids 4096

Re: [SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] Sydney PostgreSQL User Group - inaugural meeting

2004-09-13 Thread mlh
On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 01:29:06AM +1000, Julian Grodzicky wrote: Can PostgreSQL be used as a GIS? Postgresql can be used IN a gis: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.4/interactive/datatype-geometric.html#DATATYPE-GEO-TABLE http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.4/interactive/functions-geometry.html

Re: [SLUG] escaping variables in bash

2004-09-13 Thread Peter Rundle
Alex, VAR2=$( awk -F, /$SOMEVARIABLE/ /some/pathtoafile/) As others have posted, if you want to assign the result of running the awk command to the variable VAR2 then use back quotes. E.G. VAR2=`awk -F, $SOMEVARIABLE /some/path/to/afile` The output from the awk program will be in VAR2. If you

Re: [SLUG] escaping variables in bash

2004-09-13 Thread scott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 13/09/2004 02:17:52 PM: #!/bin/bash SOMEVARIABLE VAR2=$( awk -F, /$SOMEVARIABLE/ /some/pathtoafile/) Now I have problems with my I can't use ' because I want SOMEVARIABLE to be subsituted I have tried VAR2=$( awk -F, \/$SOMEVARIABLE/

Re: [SLUG] Elementary symlink question

2004-09-13 Thread Jan Schmidt
quote who=Matthew Davidson Funny; I've always assumed that the system treated a directory symlink as a real directory that just happens to have exactly the same contents as some other directory. I suppose I'd never put myself in a situation to find out outherwise. No, think of it more as a

Re: [SLUG] escaping variables in bash

2004-09-13 Thread Alexander Samad
What about in a here doc so some thing like #!/bin/bash TEST='here' cat EOF awk '/$TEST/ {print}' /somefile EOF do the ' still keep there meaning in a here doc ? Alex On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 12:22:27AM +1000, Crossfire wrote: Alexander Samad was once rumoured to have said: On Mon,

Re: [SLUG] escaping variables in bash

2004-09-13 Thread Alexander Samad
Hi No the jist was that I wanted to so something like this awk '/regex/ {awk code}' and assign the result to a variable, but i wanted to make the regex from a variable in the program, notice though that I had to place the ' around the /regex/ {awk code}, my problem then is how to organise

[SLUG] OCR

2004-09-13 Thread Alan L Tyree
Hi all, Has anyone had any (successful) experience with optical character recognition software? I just tried gocr (whatever version is with Woody) without a great deal of success, but I was working with a very poor photocopy. Thanks, Alan --

Re: [SLUG] escaping variables in bash

2004-09-13 Thread Simon Bowden
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004, Alexander Samad wrote: I am trying to do something like this #!/bin/bash SOMEVARIABLE VAR2=$( awk -F, /$SOMEVARIABLE/ /some/pathtoafile/) Now I have problems with my I can't use ' because I want SOMEVARIABLE to be subsituted I have tried VAR2=$( awk -F, \/$SOMEVARIABLE/

Re: [SLUG] escaping variables in bash

2004-09-13 Thread Robert Thorsby
On 2004.09.14 10:39 Alexander Samad wrote: What about in a here doc so some thing like #!/bin/bash TEST='here' cat EOF awk '/$TEST/ {print}' /somefile EOF do the ' still keep there meaning in a here doc ? Wouldn't it be a lot easier to use awk's -v option (that's the reason it's there):

Re: [SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] Sydney PostgreSQL User Group - inaugural meeting

2004-09-13 Thread mlh
On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 09:55:59AM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 01:29:06AM +1000, Julian Grodzicky wrote: Can PostgreSQL be used as a GIS? Postgresql can be used IN a gis: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.4/interactive/datatype-geometric.html#DATATYPE-GEO-TABLE

Re: [SLUG] Elementary symlink question

2004-09-13 Thread Peter Hardy
On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 10:34, Jan Schmidt wrote: quote who=Matthew Davidson However, I maintain that's the way it _should_ work! That's the way hard links work, but they can only link within the same file system. But you shouldn't add hard links to directories. The ln utility will only let

Re: [SLUG] Elementary symlink question

2004-09-13 Thread Ian Wienand
On Tue, Sep 14, 2004 at 09:58:59AM +1000, Matthew Davidson wrote: Funny; I've always assumed that the system treated a directory symlink as a real directory that just happens to have exactly the same contents as some other directory. I suppose I'd never put myself in a situation to find out

Re: [SLUG] OCR

2004-09-13 Thread Michael Lake
Alan L Tyree wrote: Has anyone had any (successful) experience with optical character recognition software? I just tried gocr (whatever version is with Woody) without a great deal of success, but I was working with a very poor photocopy. I have tried gocr and another one called clara. Neither were

Re: [SLUG] escaping variables in bash

2004-09-13 Thread Peter Rundle
Alexander Samad wrote: Hi No the jist was that I wanted to so something like this awk '/regex/ {awk code}' Ah Ha! This is a question that I had asked on this list some time back under the subject Awk parameter as a search string. Roger Barnes offered the answer below, HTH Pete. -- Roger

Re: [SLUG] Wins netbios name resolution in /etc/nsswitch.conf

2004-09-13 Thread Peter Hardy
On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 01:31, Ryan Tsai wrote: I'll recompile some Samba related packages tomorrow and see how it goes, though I still think its my glibc. I'd hate to classify this one as yet another unsolved tech mystery :-( Have you tried using the nmblookup utility to see if your samba is

Re: [SLUG] NTFS vs EXT3

2004-09-13 Thread Mike MacCana
On Sat, 2004-09-11 at 13:02 +1000, Rod Butcher wrote: Can anybody tell me about or point me to writing on differences between comparative strengths weaknesses of EXT3 NTFS ? Ext3 is faster than NTFS for most use cases (it avoids fragmentation better than NTFS by trying to write files to

Re: [SLUG] NTFS vs EXT3

2004-09-13 Thread Mike MacCana
On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 00:18 +1000, Crossfire wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] was once rumoured to have said: Crossfire wrote: Unfortunately, a fsck is not the only tool required in data backup and recovery - the big issue with reiser for serious deployment has been its lack of dump/restore

Re: [SLUG] mounting HPFS: not supported by kernel

2004-09-13 Thread Voytek
Now you should be able to mount that partition. You can always check which filesystems your kernel supports by looking at /proc/filesystems, like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/src $ cat /proc/filesystems Jeff, as it was, I really wanted to mount JFS(it seems I forgot I was using JFS, not

Re: [SLUG] OCR

2004-09-13 Thread David Gillies
Michael Lake wrote: Alan L Tyree wrote: Has anyone had any (successful) experience with optical character recognition software? I just tried gocr (whatever version is with Woody) without a great deal of success, but I was working with a very poor photocopy. I haven't tried this, just a suggestion,

Re: [SLUG] NTFS vs EXT3

2004-09-13 Thread James Gregory
On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 14:23 +1000, Mike MacCana wrote: Someone said NTFS supports sparse files. Are you sure? IIRC Virtual Server 2005 (MSs VMware competitor) has to do all kinds of clunky stuff cause NTFS doesn't support sparse files... This page:

Re: [SLUG] NTFS vs EXT3

2004-09-13 Thread Mike MacCana
On Tue, 2004-09-14 at 12:18 +1000, James Gregory wrote: On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 14:23 +1000, Mike MacCana wrote: Someone said NTFS supports sparse files. Are you sure? IIRC Virtual Server 2005 (MSs VMware competitor) has to do all kinds of clunky stuff cause NTFS doesn't support sparse

[SLUG] questions about strip

2004-09-13 Thread Well
Hi All If I have 2 object file, one is API library , another is executable object. The executable object makes reference to the libray. Now I want to downsize the 2 objects. I can strip the executable object directly, but how to strip the API library when it's areference ofthe executable

Re: [SLUG] questions about strip

2004-09-13 Thread Benno
On Tue Sep 14, 2004 at 11:39:03 +0800, Well wrote: Hi All If I have 2 object file, one is API library , another is executable object. The executable object makes reference to the libray. Now I want to downsize the 2 objects. I can strip the executable object directly, but how to strip the API

Re: [SLUG] OT: solid text on translucent background

2004-09-13 Thread Peter Rundle
Does this help?: http://www.quirksmode.org/css/opacity.html Unfortunately no, it does cause the text back to opaque but the transparency of the background under the text also disappears. Seems that opacity is still in development so I've set the opacity to 0.8 and even though the text is a

Re: [SLUG] questions about strip

2004-09-13 Thread Dave Airlie
Although you can probably strip some of the symbols. I suggest reading the man page. strip has some options.. you can usually drop the debug options... Dave. -- David Airlie, Software Engineer http://www.skynet.ie/~airlied / airlied at skynet.ie pam_smb / Linux DECstation / Linux VAX /

Re: [SLUG] escaping variables in bash

2004-09-13 Thread Peter Rundle
awk '/regex/ {awk code}' Here's a shell script that I put together call whatrpm.sh as in whatrpm put that file on my 'puter. It shows a string being passed to awk and used as a search pattern. I append a $ to the string that the user passes on the command line so that it only matches where the

[SLUG] Another LaTeX question

2004-09-13 Thread James Gregory
Once again I'm fighting the good fight trying to keep our documentation available as PDF and HTML. I have the problem at the moment that I need to include a huge table of error codes. One column of this table is a wordy description of the error (a short paragraph or so). I found the tabularx

Re: [SLUG] terminal broken on 2.6.8

2004-09-13 Thread Rod Butcher
CONFIG_INPUT is set to y. Kernel is 2.6.8.1, diirect from kernel.org. I've narrowed this down to : the terminal emulators (konsole, gnomeconsole, xterm) load Ok but they do not fireup bash (according to the dependencies shown on the system monitor). And these consoles are really just x11

Re: [SLUG] terminal broken on 2.6.8

2004-09-13 Thread Jan Schmidt
quote who=Rod Butcher CONFIG_INPUT is set to y. Kernel is 2.6.8.1, diirect from kernel.org. I've narrowed this down to : the terminal emulators (konsole, gnomeconsole, xterm) load Ok but they do not fireup bash (according to the dependencies shown on the system monitor). And these consoles