[SLUG] Re: Alternatives to Gnome3

2011-11-13 Thread Richard Ibbotson
On Saturday 12 Nov 2011 21:21:56 Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Can anyone recommend an alternative? Something simple and minimal without too much ugly. Sorry I can't stand tiling WMs either. Before Gnome 3 came along I didn't like LXDE but I've started to use it. I find that the Avant or Cairo

Re: [SLUG] Alternatives to Gnome3

2011-11-13 Thread Jeremy Visser
On 13/11/2011, at 17:59, Simon Rumble wrote: The problem here is that with Gnome3 (and they started this attitude in Gnome2), they make it very difficult to do things any way other than the default. I work in tech support, doing a lot of phone support for non-technical users. Let me tell you,

Re: [SLUG] Alternatives to Gnome3

2011-11-13 Thread Simon Rumble
On Nov 13, 2011 11:52 PM, Jeremy Visser jer...@visser.name wrote: On 13/11/2011, at 17:59, Simon Rumble wrote: The problem here is that with Gnome3 (and they started this attitude in Gnome2), they make it very difficult to do things any way other than the default. I work in tech support,

Re: [SLUG] Alternatives to Gnome3

2011-11-13 Thread simran
I upgraded 3 days ago and downgraded yesterday as well... it loses the perennial wisdom of keep simple things simple and make complex things possible... simple things are no longer simple... i know this is just a rant, but gnome is not a primary focus for me, more a utility to efficiently using

[SLUG] Re: Alternatives to Gnome3

2011-11-13 Thread James Linder
On 14/11/2011, at 9:00 AM, slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote: The problem here is that with Gnome3 (and they started this attitude in Gnome2), they make it very difficult to do things any way other than the default. I work in tech support, doing a lot of phone support for non-technical users.

Re: [SLUG] Alternatives to Gnome3

2011-11-13 Thread Andrew Cowie
On Sat, 2011-11-12 at 21:21 +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Hi all, I just upgraded my debian testing laptop and found myself running Gnome3. I was quite happy with Gnome2 (with a few minor tweaks) but Gnome3 is completely abysmal. What I find annoying about these conversations is that

Re: [SLUG] Alternatives to Gnome3

2011-11-13 Thread Glen Turner
Andrew wrote: What I find annoying about these conversations is that if you had gone and bought an Apple with Mac OS X you would be perfectly reasonably working through learning how to use a new Desktop and not complaining about it at all. But here we are admonishing the GNOME hackers had

Re: [SLUG] Alternatives to Gnome3

2011-11-13 Thread Jamie Lennox
On 11/14/2011 04:30 PM, Glen Turner wrote: Andrew wrote: What I find annoying about these conversations is that if you had gone and bought an Apple with Mac OS X you would be perfectly reasonably working through learning how to use a new Desktop and not complaining about it at all. But here we