Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-08-03 Thread Neil Jerram
Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli gnu...@no-log.org writes: On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 23:13 +0200, Neil Jerram wrote: - GPS: it seems clear now that it was a mistake to pull that under the FSO umbrella, and that mobile devices should just use standard gpsd instead However I was told that adding

Re: About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-31 Thread Neil Jerram
Enrico Zini enr...@enricozini.org writes: What I think is needed now are components that give existing distributions capabilities they didn't have before. Then to see what people develop on top of them. +1 But to be appealing to developers who are new to the system (which basically means,

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-31 Thread Neil Jerram
Dr. Michael Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de writes: Hi, Arguably those two paragraphs are already well satisfied by oFono. oFono probably now has the advantage in terms of maturity and deployment, is compilable by a standard C compiler, and has a recent version packaged in Debian. FSO is

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-22 Thread Neil Jerram
Simon Busch morp...@gravedo.de writes: I would be really happy to hear what other people are thinking about the idea behind FSO since it was started back in 2008. What are your missing features? What do you like and what not? All of the details you've described sound to me like excellent and

Re: [Shr-Devel] fsogsmd and om-gta04

2012-03-06 Thread Neil Jerram
Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli gnu...@no-log.org writes: hi, all GTA04 revisions have an option modem, but at least 2 things are lacking: * CLCC polling: it seem to poll somehow but it doesn't work and doesn't send the notification when the call ends. In case you're not already aware of it, the

Re: [PATCH] Fix provider code to country mapping

2011-04-07 Thread Neil Jerram
With apologies for the lateness of this followup... Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de writes: With regards to logger.debug versus #if DEBUG here's my assassement: logger.debug is the usual debug mechanism that contains output that may help users and developers to communicate

Re: [PATCH] Fix provider code to country mapping

2011-03-13 Thread Neil Jerram
Simon Busch morp...@gravedo.de writes: Hm, I don't really know why mickey did the debug logging via debug(...). In gerneral we should use the following to log debugging statements: assert( logger.debug( @This is my log message ) ); With this we can disable all assert statements with

[PATCH] Fix provider code to country mapping

2011-03-11 Thread Neil Jerram
* fsodatad/src/plugins/world/plugin.vala: Don't return a 3 digit prefix match while there are still countries we haven't checked yet that might have a full match. --- fsodatad/src/plugins/world/plugin.vala | 38 +--- 1 files changed, 25 insertions(+), 13

Re: fso-frameworkd - ogpsd as a gpsd client

2010-05-12 Thread Neil Jerram
On 11 May 2010 23:31, Gilles Filippini p...@debian.org wrote: Hi, For what it's worth, here is a patch against fso-frameworkd(*) to make ogpsd a gpsd client. Thanks! I'm looking forward to trying this later on. Neil ___ Smartphones-userland

Re: [PATCH] frameworkd battery status reporting

2010-05-08 Thread Neil Jerram
On 2 March 2010 10:57, Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net wrote: Sebastian Reichel schrieb: On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 09:52:19PM +, Neil Jerram wrote: On 1 March 2010 00:01, Sebastian Reichel elektra...@gmail.com wrote: I think you are implying that - o-p-p definitely does need updating, when

Fwd: GPS - cat /dev/ttySAC1 returns binary garbage

2010-05-07 Thread Neil Jerram
Sorry, meant to CC this to the list... -- Forwarded message -- From: Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com Date: 7 May 2010 21:45 Subject: Re: GPS - cat /dev/ttySAC1 returns binary garbage To: Gilles Filippini p...@debian.org On 6 May 2010 20:13, Gilles Filippini p...@debian.org

Re: [PATCH] frameworkd battery status reporting

2010-05-01 Thread Neil Jerram
I previously wrote about some problems that I observed when switching from odeviced to fsodeviced, and I think I can now explain those better: On 28 February 2010 00:44, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com wrote: Well, the Debian version of fsodeviced seems not to work straightforwardly yet

Re: [debian] 2010-03-25 installation from scratch

2010-03-26 Thread Neil Jerram
On 26 March 2010 18:59, Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com wrote: gpsd should work fine (now that new version of both it and tangogps are in sid), but alas it doesn't auto-start of GPS chip on demand. I wondered about this possible design for solving that problem: - gpsd is set up to run on

Re: [debian] 2010-03-25 installation from scratch

2010-03-26 Thread Neil Jerram
On 26 March 2010 14:10, e.waelde ew.ng7...@nassur.net wrote: 4. zhone   zhone still shuts down the system on exit zhone   apply the following patch as suggested by Enrico Zini http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/smartphones-userland/2009-October/002116.html

Smartphone web apps

2010-03-21 Thread Neil Jerram
I keep seeing - as I sure you all do - these adverts for all the apps that are available for the iPhone, and for other smartphones. It seems to me that the vast majority of them are just simplified interfaces to parts of existing web pages or services. So I was wondering if there is already any

Re: [PATCH] frameworkd battery status reporting

2010-02-27 Thread Neil Jerram
On 27 February 2010 12:29, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de wrote: Hi Neil, Hi Mickey, Thanks for taking a look at this... can you point me to an example why this patch is necessary? Isn't that covered by the quoted section of my previous email? In summary, after installing

Re: Fwd: Your message to community awaits moderator approval

2010-02-26 Thread Neil Jerram
On 26 February 2010 03:09, Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com wrote: Ether that or use something like Pastebin for all the debugging output and other large amounts of text, but the best thing in a case like that would be to open a bug report. On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 6:26 PM, William Kenworthy

Re: gsm modem daemon

2010-02-10 Thread Neil Jerram
On 9 February 2010 23:03, Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz wrote: looking at the FSOSHRCON  proposal, seems fsogsmd will still take some time befoe we see it in action ... :( , too bad for us who loose gsm after gprs... True, but it's not fair to put extra pressure on Mickey... And, even when

Re: Debian fso-framework

2010-01-21 Thread Neil Jerram
2010/1/21 A.A. a...@email.it: 2010.01.21 10:39:44.441 ogpsd                WARNING  (could not write to '/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron': [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron') 2010.01.21 10:39:44.982 ogpsd                

Re: Happy New Year from FSO

2010-01-02 Thread Neil Jerram
2010/1/2 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de: In the name of the FSO team, I wish all of you a Happy New Year! Happy New Year to you too, and thanks for all your work on FSO! And Happy New Year to all list readers! Best wishes, Neil

Re: [Debian] Re: Touchscreen not working

2009-12-27 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/12/25 Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com: 2009/12/25 Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com: I'm now having this same problem after I rebooted my Debian. Could the hal 0.5.14 update have caused the problem? So it seems, downgrading hal packages to 0.5.13-6 solved this touch screen problem

Re: Touchscreen not working

2009-12-19 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/12/18 Steven Jones sjo...@enrgies.com: Apparently I have made negative progress. The touchscreen is no longer working after I installed Debian. I thought, perhaps, I messed something up, so I did a clean install (QI=true ./install.sh all), but that did not fix the issue. Can you still

Re: Debian Welcome Screen

2009-12-18 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/12/17 Steven Jones sjo...@enrgies.com: First, I am greatly appreciative of the help. It's a bit late to say so now, but I think it would have been better to become comfortable with the default Debian setup first before looking at variations like icewm. Out of the box, Debian should give

Re: Debian Welcome Screen

2009-12-18 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/12/18 Steven Jones sjo...@enrgies.com: The following packages have unmet dependencies:   zhone: Depends: python-edbus but it is not going to be installed Depends: python-ecore but it is not going to be installed Depends: python-edje but it is not going to be installed   

Re: [debian] User experiences on fso-frameworkd and fso-config-gta02 in pkg-fso vs. those in Debian testing

2009-12-15 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/12/15 Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com: Hi, Hi Timo., I'm afraid I don't have much hard data to offer, but I appreciate your description of possible combinations, and I have a few comments. 2. same as above, but configured to use fso-abyss instead of default gsm0710muxd Not getting

Re: xserver-xorg-video-glamo stability

2009-12-09 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/12/9 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi: Hi Timo, I'm guessing you meant Thomas here... :-) you mentioned today that the glamo driver has been stable. Is your setup latest andy-tracking with xserver-xorg-video-glamo 0.0.0+20090707.git98c012f7-1+b1 from Debian unstable or

Re: xserver-xorg-video-glamo stability

2009-12-09 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/12/9 Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com: 2009/12/9 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi: Hi Timo, I'm guessing you meant Thomas here... :-) Please ignore this... Naturally, shortly after writing this, I noticed that we do have two Timo's on this list. (I think the rest of my

Re: FreeRunner opkg update

2009-12-03 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/12/2 Steven Jones sjo...@enrgies.com: My goal is to get Debian installed, as I was unsuccessful with that endeavor on my Neo1973. I was hoping this would be a smoother effort, but I am stuck on this (very early) hurdle. I think you will need to flash one of the modern flashable

Re: debian install.sh for openmoko fdisk error got EOF thrice - exiting..

2009-12-01 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/12/1 Steffen Moeller steffen_moel...@gmx.de: Hi Charles, this makes some good sense to me. I have just uploaded the change. As you're uploading install.sh changes, please could I draw your attention to http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-fso-maint/2009-October/002106.html ?

Re: debian/e17/zhone status

2009-11-17 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/11/7 Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com: 2009.11.07 13:38:04.692 oeventsd.action      ERROR    method Suspend emited error: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy

Re: debian/e17/zhone status

2009-11-07 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/10/18 Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com: 2009/10/18 Sebastian Reichel elektra...@gmail.com: On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 03:46:27PM +0100, Neil Jerram wrote: 3. Sometimes fails to suspend. This is interesting, I can't remember other users reporting this one. Any logs on this one? What

Re: Recombining a split SMS message

2009-10-21 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/10/21 Jose Luis Perez Diez jl...@escomposlinux.org: El Tuesday, 20 de October de 2009 20:00:52 Neil Jerram va escriure: - there's no plan to update zhone to use the PIM interface    (jluis has a zhone patch to use this interface for contacts, but not for messages) I'm still planing

Re: debian/e17/zhone status

2009-10-19 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/10/19 Jonathan Schultz jonat...@imatix.com: As one of those other users I'm happy to send you logs. Thanks. But to summarise, I'm having 100% failure to notice new incoming SMS using zhone, and regular segfaulting using ophonekitd/SHR.  When I examine the frameworkd log I see no trace

debian/e17/zhone status

2009-10-18 Thread Neil Jerram
I am pretty happy with my current combination of Debian, e17 and zhone. My wife said that the audio on a call earlier sounded like anyone else calling, which is praise indeed! :-) And this is using Debian-installed alsa state files, without any tweaking or use of *mixer.py. (My phone has been

Re: debian/e17/zhone status

2009-10-18 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/10/18 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de: why don't you just change the logs' locations? in /etc/frameworkd.conf for fso and in /usr/bin/zhone for zhone? i let fso write to /var/log/frameworkd.log and zhone to $HOME/.zhone.log provided /var is mounted to a real fs and  not tmpfs, the logs

Fwd: [debian] unexpected troubles

2009-10-14 Thread Neil Jerram
and the possibility of linking up with the openmoko-community trail, here's my last message there - but I don't believe it contains any more useful information than I've stated above. -- Forwarded message -- From: Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com Date: 2009/10/13 Subject: Re

Re: Fwd: [debian] unexpected troubles

2009-10-14 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/10/14 Al Johnson alast...@truebox.co.uk: Also check /etc/frameworkd.conf isn't empty. Aha! It is empty. There was a recent report where this was the problem, and forcing reinstall of fso-config-gta02 fixed it. It's not clear at the moment how it became empty, so worth a look. I'll

Re: Fwd: [debian] unexpected troubles

2009-10-14 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/10/14 Nikita V. Youshchenko yo...@debian.org: I did not notice 'usage' string in error message in your original post. I'm not sure what you mean here. I think I noted in my original post that fso-usaged was not installed, and wondered whether that was a problem. Is fso-usaged installed?

Re: Fwd: [debian] unexpected troubles

2009-10-14 Thread Neil Jerram
2009/10/14 Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com: 2009/10/14 Al Johnson alast...@truebox.co.uk: There was a recent report where this was the problem, and forcing reinstall of fso-config-gta02 fixed it. It's not clear at the moment how it became empty, so worth a look. I'll try