Re[2]: [sniffer] Joe Jobs...
IMO, you're absolutely right. These days, automated responses are just as bad (for the same reasons) as challenge/response systems. They amplify spam and malware issues by generating outscatter. None the less, they still happen. _M On Thursday, December 15, 2005, 1:10:31 PM, Kevin wrote: KS> That brings a question up...why do some/many/most postmasters feel that it KS> is so important to notify senders of a virus to a "spoofed" email address? KS> Also, I have yet to see a legitimate email that contained a virus..so why KS> not turn the notification off all together? KS> Just curious... KS> Kevin KS> -Original Message- KS> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] KS> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] KS> On Behalf Of Pete McNeil KS> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:30 AM KS> To: sniffer@sortmonster.com KS> Subject: [sniffer] Joe Jobs... KS> Hello Sniffer Folks, KS> Please be aware that there are several spam and possibly virus KS> (other malware?) campaigns being transmitted with my madscientist KS> address and possibly other addresses from our company in the From: KS> headers and SMTP envelope. KS> Though this has happened in the past at low levels, I have noted KS> recently a very high level of bounces and warnings returning to me KS> (erroneously) from systems that claim they have received viruses and KS> spam from my address. KS> I suspect that this might have been triggered by recent press KS> activity, - especially a Washington Post article which included my KS> email address without modification. KS> If you receive any of these messages, please treat them as the KS> spam/malware that they are and ignore the source. KS> I have verified that we are not sending any such messages ( KS> unintentionally) from any of our systems. KS> Thanks, KS> _M KS> Pete McNeil (Madscientist) KS> President, MicroNeil Research Corporation Chief SortMonster KS> (www.sortmonster.com) Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com) KS> This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and KS> (un)subscription instructions go to KS> http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html KS> This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For KS> information and (un)subscription instructions go to KS> http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html
RE: [sniffer] Joe Jobs...
Because the vendors are so lame as to have that enabled by default. John T eServices For You > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Kevin Stanford > Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:11 AM > To: sniffer@SortMonster.com > Subject: RE: [sniffer] Joe Jobs... > > That brings a question up...why do some/many/most postmasters feel that it > is so important to notify senders of a virus to a "spoofed" email address? > Also, I have yet to see a legitimate email that contained a virus..so why > not turn the notification off all together? > > Just curious... > > Kevin > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Pete McNeil > Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:30 AM > To: sniffer@sortmonster.com > Subject: [sniffer] Joe Jobs... > > Hello Sniffer Folks, > > Please be aware that there are several spam and possibly virus > (other malware?) campaigns being transmitted with my madscientist > address and possibly other addresses from our company in the From: > headers and SMTP envelope. > > Though this has happened in the past at low levels, I have noted > recently a very high level of bounces and warnings returning to me > (erroneously) from systems that claim they have received viruses and > spam from my address. > > I suspect that this might have been triggered by recent press > activity, - especially a Washington Post article which included my > email address without modification. > > If you receive any of these messages, please treat them as the > spam/malware that they are and ignore the source. > > I have verified that we are not sending any such messages ( > unintentionally) from any of our systems. > > Thanks, > _M > > Pete McNeil (Madscientist) > President, MicroNeil Research Corporation Chief SortMonster > (www.sortmonster.com) Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com) > > > This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and > (un)subscription instructions go to > http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html > > > > This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and > (un)subscription instructions go to > http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html
RE: [sniffer] Joe Jobs...
Generally because they don't know any better. Backscatter just makes the problems 10 times worse. -Jay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Stanford Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:11 PM To: sniffer@SortMonster.com Subject: RE: [sniffer] Joe Jobs... That brings a question up...why do some/many/most postmasters feel that it is so important to notify senders of a virus to a "spoofed" email address? Also, I have yet to see a legitimate email that contained a virus..so why not turn the notification off all together? Just curious... Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete McNeil Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:30 AM To: sniffer@sortmonster.com Subject: [sniffer] Joe Jobs... Hello Sniffer Folks, Please be aware that there are several spam and possibly virus (other malware?) campaigns being transmitted with my madscientist address and possibly other addresses from our company in the From: headers and SMTP envelope. Though this has happened in the past at low levels, I have noted recently a very high level of bounces and warnings returning to me (erroneously) from systems that claim they have received viruses and spam from my address. I suspect that this might have been triggered by recent press activity, - especially a Washington Post article which included my email address without modification. If you receive any of these messages, please treat them as the spam/malware that they are and ignore the source. I have verified that we are not sending any such messages ( unintentionally) from any of our systems. Thanks, _M Pete McNeil (Madscientist) President, MicroNeil Research Corporation Chief SortMonster (www.sortmonster.com) Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com) This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html
RE: [sniffer] Joe Jobs...
That brings a question up...why do some/many/most postmasters feel that it is so important to notify senders of a virus to a "spoofed" email address? Also, I have yet to see a legitimate email that contained a virus..so why not turn the notification off all together? Just curious... Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete McNeil Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:30 AM To: sniffer@sortmonster.com Subject: [sniffer] Joe Jobs... Hello Sniffer Folks, Please be aware that there are several spam and possibly virus (other malware?) campaigns being transmitted with my madscientist address and possibly other addresses from our company in the From: headers and SMTP envelope. Though this has happened in the past at low levels, I have noted recently a very high level of bounces and warnings returning to me (erroneously) from systems that claim they have received viruses and spam from my address. I suspect that this might have been triggered by recent press activity, - especially a Washington Post article which included my email address without modification. If you receive any of these messages, please treat them as the spam/malware that they are and ignore the source. I have verified that we are not sending any such messages ( unintentionally) from any of our systems. Thanks, _M Pete McNeil (Madscientist) President, MicroNeil Research Corporation Chief SortMonster (www.sortmonster.com) Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com) This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html
[sniffer] Joe Jobs...
Hello Sniffer Folks, Please be aware that there are several spam and possibly virus (other malware?) campaigns being transmitted with my madscientist address and possibly other addresses from our company in the From: headers and SMTP envelope. Though this has happened in the past at low levels, I have noted recently a very high level of bounces and warnings returning to me (erroneously) from systems that claim they have received viruses and spam from my address. I suspect that this might have been triggered by recent press activity, - especially a Washington Post article which included my email address without modification. If you receive any of these messages, please treat them as the spam/malware that they are and ignore the source. I have verified that we are not sending any such messages ( unintentionally) from any of our systems. Thanks, _M Pete McNeil (Madscientist) President, MicroNeil Research Corporation Chief SortMonster (www.sortmonster.com) Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com) This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html