Re[2]: [sniffer] Joe Jobs...

2005-12-15 Thread Pete McNeil
IMO, you're absolutely right. These days, automated responses are just
as bad (for the same reasons) as challenge/response systems. They
amplify spam and malware issues by generating outscatter.

None the less, they still happen.

_M

On Thursday, December 15, 2005, 1:10:31 PM, Kevin wrote:

KS> That brings a question up...why do some/many/most postmasters feel that it
KS> is so important to notify senders of a virus to a "spoofed" email address?
KS> Also, I have yet to see a legitimate email that contained a virus..so why
KS> not turn the notification off all together?

KS> Just curious...

KS> Kevin 

KS> -Original Message-
KS> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KS> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
KS> On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
KS> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:30 AM
KS> To: sniffer@sortmonster.com
KS> Subject: [sniffer] Joe Jobs...

KS> Hello Sniffer Folks,

KS>   Please be aware that there are several spam and possibly virus
KS>   (other malware?) campaigns being transmitted with my madscientist
KS>   address and possibly other addresses from our company in the From:
KS>   headers and SMTP envelope.

KS>   Though this has happened in the past at low levels, I have noted
KS>   recently a very high level of bounces and warnings returning to me
KS>   (erroneously) from systems that claim they have received viruses and
KS>   spam from my address.

KS>   I suspect that this might have been triggered by recent press
KS>   activity, - especially a Washington Post article which included my
KS>   email address without modification.

KS>   If you receive any of these messages, please treat them as the
KS>   spam/malware that they are and ignore the source.

KS>   I have verified that we are not sending any such messages (
KS>   unintentionally) from any of our systems.

KS> Thanks,
KS> _M

KS> Pete McNeil (Madscientist)
KS> President, MicroNeil Research Corporation Chief SortMonster
KS> (www.sortmonster.com) Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com)


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RE: [sniffer] Joe Jobs...

2005-12-15 Thread John T (Lists)
Because the vendors are so lame as to have that enabled by default.

John T
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
> Behalf Of Kevin Stanford
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:11 AM
> To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
> Subject: RE: [sniffer] Joe Jobs...
> 
> That brings a question up...why do some/many/most postmasters feel that it
> is so important to notify senders of a virus to a "spoofed" email address?
> Also, I have yet to see a legitimate email that contained a virus..so why
> not turn the notification off all together?
> 
> Just curious...
> 
> Kevin
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:30 AM
> To: sniffer@sortmonster.com
> Subject: [sniffer] Joe Jobs...
> 
> Hello Sniffer Folks,
> 
>   Please be aware that there are several spam and possibly virus
>   (other malware?) campaigns being transmitted with my madscientist
>   address and possibly other addresses from our company in the From:
>   headers and SMTP envelope.
> 
>   Though this has happened in the past at low levels, I have noted
>   recently a very high level of bounces and warnings returning to me
>   (erroneously) from systems that claim they have received viruses and
>   spam from my address.
> 
>   I suspect that this might have been triggered by recent press
>   activity, - especially a Washington Post article which included my
>   email address without modification.
> 
>   If you receive any of these messages, please treat them as the
>   spam/malware that they are and ignore the source.
> 
>   I have verified that we are not sending any such messages (
>   unintentionally) from any of our systems.
> 
> Thanks,
> _M
> 
> Pete McNeil (Madscientist)
> President, MicroNeil Research Corporation Chief SortMonster
> (www.sortmonster.com) Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com)
> 
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RE: [sniffer] Joe Jobs...

2005-12-15 Thread Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC
Generally because they don't know any better.  Backscatter just makes
the problems 10 times worse.

-Jay

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Stanford
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:11 PM
To: sniffer@SortMonster.com
Subject: RE: [sniffer] Joe Jobs...

That brings a question up...why do some/many/most postmasters feel that
it
is so important to notify senders of a virus to a "spoofed" email
address?
Also, I have yet to see a legitimate email that contained a virus..so
why
not turn the notification off all together?

Just curious...

Kevin 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:30 AM
To: sniffer@sortmonster.com
Subject: [sniffer] Joe Jobs...

Hello Sniffer Folks,

  Please be aware that there are several spam and possibly virus
  (other malware?) campaigns being transmitted with my madscientist
  address and possibly other addresses from our company in the From:
  headers and SMTP envelope.

  Though this has happened in the past at low levels, I have noted
  recently a very high level of bounces and warnings returning to me
  (erroneously) from systems that claim they have received viruses and
  spam from my address.

  I suspect that this might have been triggered by recent press
  activity, - especially a Washington Post article which included my
  email address without modification.

  If you receive any of these messages, please treat them as the
  spam/malware that they are and ignore the source.

  I have verified that we are not sending any such messages (
  unintentionally) from any of our systems.

Thanks,
_M

Pete McNeil (Madscientist)
President, MicroNeil Research Corporation Chief SortMonster
(www.sortmonster.com) Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com)


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RE: [sniffer] Joe Jobs...

2005-12-15 Thread Kevin Stanford
That brings a question up...why do some/many/most postmasters feel that it
is so important to notify senders of a virus to a "spoofed" email address?
Also, I have yet to see a legitimate email that contained a virus..so why
not turn the notification off all together?

Just curious...

Kevin 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Pete McNeil
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 11:30 AM
To: sniffer@sortmonster.com
Subject: [sniffer] Joe Jobs...

Hello Sniffer Folks,

  Please be aware that there are several spam and possibly virus
  (other malware?) campaigns being transmitted with my madscientist
  address and possibly other addresses from our company in the From:
  headers and SMTP envelope.

  Though this has happened in the past at low levels, I have noted
  recently a very high level of bounces and warnings returning to me
  (erroneously) from systems that claim they have received viruses and
  spam from my address.

  I suspect that this might have been triggered by recent press
  activity, - especially a Washington Post article which included my
  email address without modification.

  If you receive any of these messages, please treat them as the
  spam/malware that they are and ignore the source.

  I have verified that we are not sending any such messages (
  unintentionally) from any of our systems.

Thanks,
_M

Pete McNeil (Madscientist)
President, MicroNeil Research Corporation Chief SortMonster
(www.sortmonster.com) Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com)


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[sniffer] Joe Jobs...

2005-12-15 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Sniffer Folks,

  Please be aware that there are several spam and possibly virus
  (other malware?) campaigns being transmitted with my madscientist
  address and possibly other addresses from our company in the From:
  headers and SMTP envelope.

  Though this has happened in the past at low levels, I have noted
  recently a very high level of bounces and warnings returning to me
  (erroneously) from systems that claim they have received viruses and
  spam from my address.

  I suspect that this might have been triggered by recent press
  activity, - especially a Washington Post article which included my
  email address without modification.

  If you receive any of these messages, please treat them as the
  spam/malware that they are and ignore the source.

  I have verified that we are not sending any such messages (
  unintentionally) from any of our systems.

Thanks,
_M

Pete McNeil (Madscientist)
President, MicroNeil Research Corporation
Chief SortMonster (www.sortmonster.com)
Chief Scientist (www.armresearch.com)


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