Try isopropyl alcohol as it isnot bad. I have
also tried the hand cleaner 'Orange"
Chris
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Maurice
Podder
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Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 10:13
AM
Subject: [RCSE] Removing Hinge Tape
Glue
I used to use
Go to the Aerovironment Web site for a link to the
plans.
Chris
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Subject: [RCSE] "walking glider" as seen
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Hi group ,
Larry,
You have to recall that last year you got my entry 3 weeks AFTER the contest
was flown. It was sent on the Monday, and Priority mail. So much for the
postal service!
Chris Adams
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Dick,
Where are you getting 100 ft rolls of glass? What does a roll run in $$?
Thanks,
Chris
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From: Dick Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: Luddite!
Quit whining and learn to build your
Hi Ron, Mike, and all.
I have to agree with Ron that some of the best
times are had when pilots get together. I had not flown HLG
competitively since Dave Thornburg's HLG contest at SULA, in LA, however I have
been an advid follower of the designs while having a family. Last
Decemeber when
Hi Joe,
Always Aim to please. When I get it straightened out perhaps I'll be up
there with you guys.
Thermals,
Chris
The planes on the field, in large part, were working very well. A few
aileron planes had flutter on launch, which could really hurt the launch
altitude. Flutter ran
Hi Marta, Glenn,
At the IHLGF some people were talking of classes, mainlybecause they wanted
some sort of separation due to performance. Some thought about opening the
wingspan up, much like the original contests, while others were trhinking of
1 meter ships. Those talking 1 meter like the
Hi Guys,
Yes the gyro was an added factor but many of the flyers had ships that were
designed NOT to require gyros! The gyros were only necessary for those
planes that required corrections that the pilots and designer's could or did
not handle. I took over 150 digital shots of most of the tomp
Having just been at the IHLGF, the way to remove the finger dimples is to
pour boiling water over the wing. Anoither way is to ake a wet paper towel
and a monokote iron. Place the damp towel down and then monokote iron over
it. I did it on my planes and it works extremely well.They look
Pat,
I have to respond to your post. Yes there are only a few of us that BUILD
our own gliders for Poway. The rest are bought. For me, I believe in
building as much as flying. Those Designer's and BUILDERs at Poway we few.
For example, there was Phil Pearson (Encore/MapleLeaf along with JW),
YES YES YES and I HAVE the pictures to show it! Darwin, the
pictures I have are great!
Seeing the Raptor perched on the wires , and how it landed is priceless!
BTW, How much for NOT putting it on the Web?
Chris
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Hi Ray,
Lot' so addresses get to me. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is what I used, but My
nephew has used [EMAIL PROTECTED] gets to me
also as I run the web site. During the workdays, try [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What's Up??
Chris
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Ron,
Sorry I missed it. Thought I had added it. These late nights are killers.
For those interested in the Flywheel winch take a look at the picture I
have. Sorry the resolution is not better, but it is a VERY old photo.
Try: http://www.scrollsander.com/Scroll_Images/FlywheelWinch.jpg
Matt,
Don't get misled by the aileron rumors. I have seen and flown the new Maple
Encores and we throw them hard. They are aileron versions. The flutter
that I have seen has been on very weakly built ailerons, and the one that
was fluttering was actually broken. The reasons they may flutter
Hi Tim,
This is a major subject as I have one in the works also. From those people
I have asked the fuses vary in weights. Here are some of the replies:
2 layers of 1.3 oz Kevlar for about a 1.1 oz pod.
1 layer of 3oz crowfoot glass, can be as low as 8g.
5 oz carbon prepreg (2 layers) in my
These might be quite good, but when I investigated them over a year ago the
stepper controller was very large compared to the motor.
Chris
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From: Bill Johns [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thursday, February 22, 2001 8:59 AM
Subject:
Bill,
I recall Mark Smith using screw top 35 mm film cannisters to hold the lead
shot in the Windfree. When I had a ship like that I placed tubes that could
be loaded from the side, like a wingpin, and then a piece of tape held them
in. Simple.
Chris
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From: Bill
I think they did an excellent job considering that they do not have to use
CA, wing panels, Zagi tape and lead to keep it together. It still works.
Chris
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Bill, I am hoping to do that soon like my MHG page.
Are people interested???
Chris
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From: Bill Rose Haymaker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sunday, February 04, 2001 9:17 AM
Subject: [RCSE] Tip
Dick,
I take exception to your MHLG comments. If you are looking for a plane that
performs well then stcik with the 60" ships you have. By getting down to
29.5 " you are entering another reallm of aerodynamics and design. You have
to design for that arena, much like that you had to design
If you think that $450 is too much for a small HLG plane then think again.
This thread always comes up whe new planes of whatever are out and people
want to compete. Personally I thin it is well worth it, and I do not buy
the planes, I try to build my own.
If you look at all you out there who
Bill,
Yes, that is the way it is going to go in my very humble and cheap opinion.
It happened in F3B, and in the typical higher performance Open class at all
the major contests. I went bacK to RES and it is calmer, and less
expensive, but just as rewarding.
And to throw in the FIRST comment on
Check out my pages at http://www.scrollsander.com as I have shown it done
with 2 methods.
Chris'
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Date: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 5:05 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Nosecone Fuses
Hi there guys, anyone there with
So you want to have more challenging Thermal flights with some recognition,
then whay not go after national and world records? From my undertsnading
they wil count as a contest win for any of the LSF levels, at least way back
when I thought I heard that question and answer.
And BTW, I have
I have been thinking all afternoon regarding foreign manufacturers copying
planes. I would like to make a few comments both from the manufacturers
point of view as well as a designer's point of view. I hope that this does
not start any flaming, and I hope, as you will see, that it does not
Hi Gang,
I need to get an average nose length on the current HLGs like Encore, Logic
etc. Can Iask to have you send a measurment of the nose lengths from LEs to
nose on your HLG?
please reply privately, if you can.
Thanks,
Chris
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From: Dick Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thursday, October 19, 2000 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Visalia HLGs
Chris,
I get
"Not Found
The requested URL /Visalia2000HLG.htm was not found on this server."
if I try to I hit that URL. Are you sure you hav
Hello again Gang!:
Added pictures to the Visalia HLG Page. I did not get pictures of everyone,
and the shots are not great, but HLGs always look great!\
Take a look and enjoy. http://www.scrollsander.com/VisaliaHLG.htm
Thermals,
Chris
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1) Arthur Markowiecz (Sorry Arthur, hard to read your writing)
2) George Joy
I have a complete list, and I have data on all the planes, I have as many
photos of the planes as I could get, and hope to et stuff posted.
A special thanks thanks to Guy and Linda Russo for all their efforts!!!
Linda
Hi Pat.
I cut holes lengthwise all the time in blue foam. I get snug fitting holes
using a hot wire setup. I do not know how many ar interested but I took
pictures wondering if people want to see how it is done? The method is
quite adaptable, as if can be used for channels, and any shape you
Hi Gordy,
You should go out an build a device like Jim Wakefield did at the Sacarmento
World champ competition. He has a theoylite (sp?), a pendulum and
protractor arrangement, which permitted the viewer to freeze and measure the
angle of the scope with respect to the level ground. This
Hi Gang,
Just 2 questions which have been on RCSE but U do not gave in my archive.
1) When setting up a HLG with flapersons using a 4 channel Rx, and 8103,
what is the best way to set up and mix channels for the flaperons? (regular
tail)
2) Can someone forward the URL for the swicth used
We had a great, strong wind out of the WSW, and Walter said it was choppy.
If the front move through we will have great winds. If it is sunny, it will
turn windy!
See ya,
Chris
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You want to see the job, go to my web site page:
http://www.scrollsander.com/F3B2000.htm
It was difficult to even want to take pictures since when one looses a plane
you are not really in the mood to talk.
Chris
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Hi Francisco,
I just finished buillding a Graupner Cirrus and yes you do cut your the ribs
individually if theyare not a straight taper. You can stack cut and sand
ribs also knowing the tip and root rib. You have to then sand the ribs
individaully to remove any taper spanning the width of the
Hi Gang,
I have to respond to all the arm chair comments regarding the F3B contest.
I think the point should be dropped. I was there, saw the planes, all the
wings, however I was not there to see the actual full reconstruction. To
stand behind Daryl and all the crew that gave him such good
Hi,
The Dragonette was the first Micro HLG I built. Made of EPP and spruce
spars, FG tailboom and a R/E sheet tail. You need to build it as light as
you can, and use very small servos, batt and rx. I was impatient so I built
it using hot Glue as suggested for one method. The fuse is covered
Paul,
Gordy has never been to Red Rock here in Reno.
Too bad, the slope fly we have on for the Air Race wekend will be fun.
Chris
(PS Gordy, this is not the Red Rock down in the Vegas area. FYI we're 500
miles away (north) and further west than LA, and obviously Vegas)
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Hi Gang,
After a little bit of experimentation I was able to get some lictures of Red
Rock. I took my digital camera and took some panoramic shots. Please bear
with the download time as they are 100K and I will try to get them lower.
Please tell me how they show up on your computer?
I'm going to be up in the Bellvue/Renton WA area thursday PM and perhaps
Friday
afternoon before flying out. Are there any local slopes or ?? I can visit?
(no plane this time)
Thanks
Chris Adams
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Hi Matt,
I lived in Stillwater OK so I know what can happen. You might try a door,
perhaps a composite door for the base then add a pinning surface to it. I
have a door in my shop in NV and while we do not have th humidity, we have
dry air which takes away the water and warps the wood.
Good
Robert,
I have them . You can check them out n my web site links.
http://www.scrollsander.com. These can were made by Ross Modles and
Multiplex carried them before he was a big MP dealer.
Chris Adams
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From: Robert Paula Buxton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Over 30 years has shown me that the same old arguements are either taken
too seriously, or that when people are wrong they still have to fluff up
their feathers and talk big anyway. Must be that the bigger the noise, the
more right they are.
I am surprised I have not heard the saying "Those
Chris,
Read ALL the threads again. They HAVE changed, while I haven't. I have
always said I would accept it, and I am willing to take any heat you, or
anybody would like to dish out.
However, do give credit to my doubts. If you followed the threads, and now
the post by John, something is
. Whatever
happens we should all have alot of fun. Personally, I want to see 100 ft,
so then I can start designing for 150 ft. Have fun.
Chris
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Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE
Hi Gang,
I want to express my thanks to someone who has gone out of their way in the
modeling field, Mike Greeshields of Hobby People/Global Hobby Distributors.
A number of weeks ago I posted to RCSE a question regarding Airtronics plugs
on a pair of CS-10s. I had plugged them in to my
I look forward to seeing the launches and loops at Visalia this year. You
always amaze me.
Chris Adams
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Many good contest were run there and I learned alot of my technique from
the SULA club ans flying site. Good Luck on your new search.
Chris Adams
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Date: Thursday, June 01, 2000 10:54 AM
I am not going to the HLG contest, but if there is a rule, there is a rule.
60" is NOT 1.5M and it is not close. If I were hosting a HLG contest where
the rules said 1.5M I would have a jig, just like they would , I assume.
The fuse would rest in the center and then gets pushed thru the span
WoW, finally, someone has also started building higher A/R ships. I have
been building these hig A/R ships for over 20 years, and while they fly
different than the kites on tow, they have so many more advatages. And,
FYI, the SFVSF L/D trials back in the 70's spearheaded by Blaine Rawdon
showed
Hi Gang,
Anyone have a URL to a location for HN-350 and HN 1038 coordinates?
Selig's sites does not have them.
Thanks,
Chris
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Doug,
The standard procedure for bagging LEs is to cut the mylars short of the LE,
feather the edge of the mylars, and then have an overlap layer like wax
paper to conform the glass around the LE under pressure. When removed the
paper peals off, the LE needs to be sanded, and the edge ridge
Jim,
Sorry I did not include this in the last post but if you view this place you
will see my last ship. It is ths yellow one with the chubby bearded guy
holding it.
http://www.scrollsander.com/Soaring-Visalia98.htm
Thanks again.
Chris
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Robert,
Can you post the panel lengths again, as the first 2 panels total approx 38"
and with the tip it comes to nearly 46". Not really 2M.
Thanks.
Chris
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Bill,
I remember installing a servo tray which slid in a groove in both my
Graupner Cirrus and my old Slope Windward. I had to switch both the Rx and
servos, Thermal flying in the AM, and slope flying in the PM. Now I have
alot of old servos and thank goodness I can still use them in planes.
Gentlemen:
I have been watching the exchange regarding this question and I agree with
Chuck about re-wetting the cups. In general, the densities of the catalyst
and hardeners are close enough to consider them equal for the weighing
measurements. If you weigh the parts in separate cups before
Mike Kovacs wrote:
I have a hard time keeping the glider from stalling
when it turns back into the wind and losing a great
deal of altitude. I have even reverted to watching
the vultures fly in the wind. I see what they are
doing, but just can't seem to do it. It looks as if
they use their
Hi Gang,
As always I am trying to update my Micro HLG page. I just added a new plane
and picture, the "DAdams" by Matthew J Litke. A very nice little V-Tail
ship. Check it out.
http://www.scrollsander.com/Soaring-MHLG.htm
I am continuing to add MHLG gliders to the page and would like to add
Is the new JR R600M out? The last time I checked it was not. I called
Horizon/Indy amd they had no idea. they said at Christmas, but nothing. I
want it for my new Micro HLG.
Comments?
Chris
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Walter,
How about Rick Walters and his White Trash!
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As I see it there is no conflicts regarding copying. They are not the same.
This seems to be the opinion across the board here. A design patent would
not even be worth the trouble because any change would eb different. The
plane, in general, cannot be made a utitlity patent for protection
Steve,
Thanks for the description. Over the years I have asked the questions and
have always marveled at how the PROs like you do it. Thanks for helping us.
Chris
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Ray,
The Dassel was a constand chord aileron ship with a span of about 2M. The
Airfoil was a Eppler 182, whihc has alot of reflex. It was a molded ship
and a version of it was flown as an F3B entry back in the late 70's. Chord
was about 8", flying stab. I'll see if I can dig out some pics,
Mike,
All of the points made by Michael, Rob, and Neil are the points most foam
cutters know generally from experience. I THANK then for posting them on
the list.
Personally, I have planed foam cores more for convenience. It was either to
repair and square up an edge for measurement, or to
Brian,
I wasn't angry, just offered a different opinion. When I read something
from you, I enjoy it alot, look at it to see if I can use it, incorporate it
into what I currently do, and hopefully come up with something that is
better, easier, etc.
Yes, I too think the exchange is for ideas.
Hi Gang,
I have been flying gliders for over 30 years. I have heard of many
unwritten guidelines for flying. Like at contests, "Never fly over the Pit
area". I am taking an informal poll: "What ind of guidelines have you seen
used in all the years of your flying?
Thanks in advance.
Chris
Why the limit of the REs to bent wing prior to 1981??? There are other
nostaglia RES planes that have dihedral.
I guess you could consider a dihedral ship "Bent Wing"!
I was there during that era, and flew mostly dihedral "Gas Bag" RES ships.
Perhaps I should not consider the CASL Feb
toward the thermal events we normally fly. In the latter,
the flights are mere qualifications, while in Tom's contest we actually saw
some performance requirements.
While standing at my ScrollSander table, people would come by and ask about
my Itch MHLG, and I would get into a discussion of how high
OK gang,
Don't know if it was an insult, sorry Sal, but I got MISTAKEN for Sal, of
NSP, while I was at Visalia.
Just to let you know, I am more handsome, have a less grey beard, and I am
quite a bit taller. I do make the Micro HLGs, so I can see how some would
get confused!
I have also been
I know many have posted the answer but I can't find it.
Does anyone know a source for a dual rate switch for a JR 8103 TX?
TIA
Chris
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Walter,
I have been flying a Hobie for 7 years, and have seen them fly for over 25
years. I know the current manufacturer. I fly my Hobie on the slope alot
and while it can fly inverted, the curved wings make it hard to keep
inverted due to the normal tendency of the plane to do alot of
While 110s or 150s all depend on how much you move your servos, Rx drain
being constant, I use 150 NiH. On RCSE someone mentioned using a 9volt NiH
pack from Radio Shack. they have 7 cells, you split out 4 and three. They
run about $11 for a 9 volt bat, and I generally charge them at the
I built a DAW Dragonette for my first MHLG. this was just to find out how
they flew. At 4500 ft, it flew but I could never get it out. Problems with
turning, at least for me. Others may find them great.
However, when I put together my first bagged wing with molded fuse, at 4.5
Oz, the same
Mark,
I have always wondered how high someone can throw a plane. Sometimes I
think it is a fish story, But if you canm get 90 ft, that is extremely
amazing. I have yet to see even Wurts get 90 ft. There was thread on RCSE
about throwing heights some time ago. While I am open for proof, 6o ft
I have been in a discussion of AR's of HLG's. In general, what is the wing
chord at the root, the general tip width, and general area of the high
performance stuff??
TIA
Chris
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I would love to add any picture to my Micro HLG site. Check it out:
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Anybody have any to add?
Chris Adams
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Date: Wednesday, August 18,
As mentioned for top ten planes, this very much depends upon the area of the
country, who you learned to fly with, what the contests were like and so
much more. What you need to look at is the influence on soaring and
correlate it to the development of RC Soaring. Popularity, or kits sold is
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