On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 12:43:01PM -0600, Steve Schneider wrote:
| Speaking of jamming them and Ham bands, how many of the users of
| the Pic's are using them illegally. The one that I have requires a
| ham licence to use. I know the newer ones use the FRC channels,
| but I
: Re: [RCSE] assisted
soaring,etc
In a message dated 1/23/2006 5:08:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Today, Idon't feel that the use of telemetry is in
the"spirit" of the rules as they were originallyintended.
Whew, I'm so glad you guys were
No rule against jamming them either. :-)
Unless maybe if they are on a HAM band.
Steve Meyer
SOAR, LSF IV
At 04:56 PM 1/23/2006, Jon Stone wrote:
Today, I
don't feel that the use of telemetry is in the
spirit of the rules as they were originally
intended.
The AMA soaring rules
On 1/24/06, Steve Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Speaking of jamming them and Ham bands, how many of the users of the Pic's are using them illegally. The one that I have requires a ham licence to use. I know the newer ones use the FRC channels, but I can't leagelly use mine, therefore I can't
In a message dated 1/24/2006 8:46:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
No rule against "jamming" them either. :-)Unless maybe if they are on a HAM band.Steve MeyerSOAR, LSF IV
That sounds great. What next? How about just using a synth module and "jam" the channel. It would
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Subject: Re: [RCSE] assisted soaring,etc
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 07:46:31 -0600
No rule against jamming them either. :-)
Unless maybe if they are on a HAM band.
Steve Meyer
SOAR, LSF IV
At 04:56 PM 1/23/2006, Jon Stone wrote:
Today, I
don't feel
Assisted soaring is going to a contest with your plane and hand the
tx to DP and let him fly for you.right?
Brian
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My system did require my license to be legal as the downlink was on
the 2 meter band.
I also fly my planes on ham frequencies.
One problem with 'some' of the telemetry units is that they are on
Europe FRS frequencies that are not legal FRS frequencies in the USA.
This should not be a problem for
I have thought about that, maybe with Slim Withman recordings?
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From: Daryl Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 1:05 AM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] assisted soaring,etc
You guys don't get the zen side of it. The telemetry
is neat stuff, and fun to use I'm sure on non-contest
D,
I remember that you and Mike Smith used a Pic at the Nats..
Thats right, YOU guys followed me down wind sctraching,
Hey, Follow Strother, he's running a vario
Thats right you used my Pic...and still kick my asreWhat fun...
I can take it or leave it...its the CD's Callat
, warning...
Hilsen (Regards) Jojo
NEW: www.jojoen.no
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From: Daryl Perkins
Subject: Re: [RCSE] assisted soaring,etc
You guys don't get the zen side of it. The telemetry
is neat stuff, and fun to use I'm sure on non-contest
days. But it has no place in a contest
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Subject: Re: [RCSE] assisted soaring,etc
I dont like it but I have to agree totally with Daryl.. ;-)
Though last WC in Canada some wondered why I had binoculars with me on the
field... And many years ago I think they used bubble machines in WC F3B
controlled by a Tx. Even smoke and rockets
In a message dated 1/23/2006 12:38:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Would you not go to an event because they were not allowed, or would you just not use it for that event?
My point exactly John, I/we do what we feel like, WITHIN the contest rules for that day.If it's not
I haven't flown a contest in at least 6 years, but I have to agree with
Daryl,
this is something that shouldn't be used in a contest environment.
I use to race one design sailboats and there were very tight rules about
equipment. Everything on the boat had to be on a list of accepted MFG's.
In
.
gv
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From: John Diniz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 11:38 AM
To: Jo Grini; Soaring@airage.com
Subject: RE: [RCSE] assisted soaring,etc
So,for you guys that do use Pic's and other devices: Would you not go to
an event because they were
Thermal sensors are NOT UNFAIR as long as they are allowed in the RULES!
A FAR bigger advantage is the use of a highly engineered MOLDED aircraft.
This is the area where people BUY advantage the easiest and most, in the plane.
The best telemetry units for RC use cost far less than one high end
If you all put your blinders on, maybe all this new technology will go away...
NOT
The world progresses, things change, adapt or be left behind.
The strong feelings of some of my pilot friends and others in this hobby
wanting things to stay the way they were is really wearing on me. I've
Guys,
What I think is the most unfair advantage are the guys that get to practice
more than me. Them suckers beat me almost everytime (hey I get lucky once in
awhile). I personally have never spent the money on any of the various Sensors
since that takes away from spending money on other
In a message dated 1/23/2006 2:46:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I always
want the advantage if it is obtainable within the rules, I always shoot
for the win, and I do it straight up like an honest
man.
Jim's is the "American Way". If it meets the rules, use it
Well let me throw in my .02 cents here. I have a Pic and I use it sometimes
and sometimes I don't. I feel that it only helps in a very limited number
of situations. Mostly when lift is marginal. Early morning first round not
much lift I use it. Overcast sky with minimal surface heating I
Please keep in mind that I am not trying to solve
anything here. Just some random thoughts about how
contests seem to be evolving.
I don't think anybody is saying that a pic or
telemetry is an unfair advantage. Anything allowable
under the rules is certainly fair. What is evident in
this thread
Yep. There is no rule against practicing. LOL
At 02:04 PM 1/23/2006, Pat McCleave wrote:
Guys,
What I think is the most unfair advantage are the guys that get to
practice more than me. Them suckers beat me almost everytime (hey I
get lucky once in awhile). I personally have never spent
In a message dated 1/23/2006 5:08:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Today, Idon't feel that the use of telemetry is in the"spirit" of the rules as they were originallyintended.
Whew, I'm so glad you guys weren't around in the 60s when I was flying 400 sq. in. pylon
Good points all around. I think people take different things away from a
contest. Some just go for the camaraderie, some go to win, some go to see
how they are doing against their peers. I personally don't think that using
a Picalario puts you ahead of the rest of the pack. You still have to
YEA,
What He Said Darn it !!!
Besides, its the only time that Richard will talk to me,
when he is bi**hing about my Vario...
LOL
Get em JB
CJ
--Jack Strother Granger, IN LSF 2948 LSF Level V #117 LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS Gold
-- Original message -- From:
Today, I
don't feel that the use of telemetry is in the
spirit of the rules as they were originally
intended.
The AMA soaring rules specifically state such devices are allowed.
10.1.f. Thermal Sensor Rule. Thermal sensing devices shall be permitted
provided that any such device and the
with practice, something I'm sorely in need of!
-Sheldon-
-Original Message-
From: John Diniz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 12:38 PM
To: Jo Grini; Soaring@airage.com
Subject: RE: [RCSE] assisted soaring,etc
So,for you guys that do use Pic's and other devices
when he enters top 10 or something.
Hilsen (Regards) Jojo
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From: Jo Grini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 10:07 AM
To: Soaring@airage.com
Subject: Re: [RCSE] assisted soaring,etc
I dont like it but I have to agree totally
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From: Jo Grini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: soaring@airage.com
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] assisted soaring,etc
I see that this causes a lot of mind twisting out there. That is mostly
good
;-)
Maybe I should say that I did enjoy
This is Gordy's best post yet, on ANY subject!
tk
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You guys don't get the zen side of it. The telemetry
is neat stuff, and fun to use I'm sure on non-contest
days. But it has no place in a contest.
Use them to learn about your model. Use them to learn
about your skill level. Use them to learn about lift.
But leave them at home on contest days.
Absolutely. Exactly the way I feel about it. Bring it on.
At 05:36 PM 10/21/2006, d. o. darnell wrote:
New technology? Bring it on.
Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR
AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net
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The only vario I used required you to drill a hole in a 1/8 inch dowel and
then split it lengthwise and install two matched thermistors just touching
each other in the split airway. Then you glued the dowel back together,
hooked one end of the dowel to an air reservoir, and wired the two
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