Re: [SoaS] Sugar on a Stick Principles

2009-11-03 Thread Caroline Meeks
Thanks Martin, this is nice work. I'm not a particularly good writer but I wonder if we can keep the simplicity of what you have an incorporate some additional concepts behind why we care about portability. Like the OLPC model, and in contrast to the way most schools currently deploy technology,

Re: [SoaS] updating the draft decision panel report

2009-11-03 Thread Tabitha Roder
2009/11/4 Caryl Bigenho > OK How about "Sugar to Go" which could include all types of media? > > Caryl > > -- > I like "Sugar to Go" ___ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas

Re: [SoaS] updating the draft decision panel report

2009-11-03 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Caryl Bigenho wrote: > Hi... > > It's sort of like root beer... > > You can buy A&W or Barq's or other private labels... or make your own. > It is still "root beer." I'd like to object to this example. When you get into your supermarket or where ever you get your root beer, you know what you wan

Re: [SoaS] updating the draft decision panel report

2009-11-03 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
I'm not going to write another lengthy reply here, because Sean basically said most things. So +1 from my side. So to be clear on what I believe: Everybody should be able to created $DISTRO Sugar Live Media images. But Sugar on a Stick is more than just a random name. It's a brand, a product. W

Re: [SoaS] [Marketing] updating the draft decision panel report

2009-11-03 Thread Carlo Falciola
Portable Sugar? carlo --- Mer 4/11/09, Samuel Klein ha scritto: > Da: Samuel Klein > Oggetto: Re: [Marketing] [SoaS] updating the draft decision panel report > A: "Sean DALY" > Cc: tabi...@hrdnz.com, "Sugar Labs Marketing" > , "Caryl Bigenho" , > "Mailing lists" , sugar-l...@solarsail.media

Re: [SoaS] updating the draft decision panel report

2009-11-03 Thread Samuel Klein
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Sean DALY wrote: > The marketing list has again disappeared, I have added it back, again. > > Weird, thanks. > This seems reasonable, but all it would do is compromise Sugar on a > Stick as a meaningful name. Any other suggestion for a generic name for the clas

Re: [SoaS] Sugar on a Stick Flash compatibility?

2009-11-03 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Sean DALY wrote: > thanks Peter yes the codecs issue is always slippery :-( > > Adobe quietly added Speex support to the latest version of Flash > Player, would be great if they did likewise with a video codec but I'm > not holding my breath. And of course that leaves us in the lurch for > vids in

Re: [SoaS] Sugar on a Stick Principles

2009-11-03 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Martin Dengler wrote: > I've edited http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick . Most of > the edits were trimming some fluff/cruft[1]. > > However one edit excised a "Principle" that I felt was redundant. > > I think we should have some review of the Principles. Sebastian, I > propose that yo

Re: [SoaS] updating the draft decision panel report

2009-11-03 Thread Caryl Bigenho
OK How about "Sugar to Go" which could include all types of media? Caryl Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:47:38 -0500 Subject: Re: [SoaS] updating the draft decision panel report From: meta...@gmail.com To: sdaly...@gmail.com CC: cbige...@hotmail.com; tabi...@hrdnz.com; market...@lists.sugarlabs.org; s

Re: [SoaS] New SoaS Snapshot ready!

2009-11-03 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Martin Dengler wrote: > On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 08:08:54AM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote: >> Can we renamed soas04.zip to soas04virtualbox.zip in future builds? >> It's confusing to me because .zip does not have any connection to >> virtual machines. > > Due to a typo

Re: [SoaS] New SoaS Snapshot ready!

2009-11-03 Thread Martin Dengler
On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 08:08:54AM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote: > Can we renamed soas04.zip to soas04virtualbox.zip in future builds? > It's confusing to me because .zip does not have any connection to > virtual machines. Due to a typo in the Makefile the file that was supposed to be called soas*.v

Re: [SoaS] New SoaS Snapshot ready!

2009-11-03 Thread Wade Brainerd
FYI the .vmdk in soas04.zip halts with no text right after GRUB starts. Any suggestions for kernel parameters to try? Strawberry was quite different- the root was specified by some kind of hash code, was mounted rw (now it's ro) and the liveimage, quiet and rghb options were set. Blueberry has n

Re: [SoaS] Sugar on a Stick Flash compatibility?

2009-11-03 Thread Sean DALY
I was thinking more in the context of Sugar on a Stick booting a PC or netbook. There is a vast amount of preexisting educational content for children in Flash and we need to be able to tell teachers and parents what to expect. Carlo sees what I mean. The command line is terrifying for nongeeks,

Re: [SoaS] Sugar on a Stick Flash compatibility?

2009-11-03 Thread Peter Robinson
Well the procedure would be simple enough. rpm -ivh http://location-too-repo-rpm-file yum install packages needed. I think, particularly on the XO-1, that flash is a bit heavy and that html 5 with open formats would work better. Peter On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Sean DALY wrote: > thanks

Re: [SoaS] [Marketing] Sugar on a Stick Flash compatibility?

2009-11-03 Thread Carlo Falciola
>but they are available from the usual locations. Sometimes could not be easy at all for newcomers to get to those "usual locations", they may not realize even that they're running linux Then it makes sense to me to add in the browse default page a link to a wiki page (that we could update ac

Re: [SoaS] Sugar on a Stick Flash compatibility?

2009-11-03 Thread Sean DALY
thanks Peter yes the codecs issue is always slippery :-( Adobe quietly added Speex support to the latest version of Flash Player, would be great if they did likewise with a video codec but I'm not holding my breath. And of course that leaves us in the lurch for vids in H.264, On2VP6, Sorenson Spar

Re: [SoaS] Sugar on a Stick Flash compatibility?

2009-11-03 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Sean DALY wrote: > Can someone remind me please how Flash content is supported in Sugar > on a Stick? Is Gnash in there, or needs to be added? I imagine the > Adobe plugin would need to be added by hand. I'm not sure we mention > what if anything stick preparers ne

[SoaS] I edited the wiki's Sugar on a Stick page introduction

2009-11-03 Thread Sean DALY
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick#Introduction I feel it is important to remind teachers and parents of our promise to not interfere with whatever is installed on the hard disk, also that they may have to fiddle with BIOS. Sean ___ SoaS mail

[SoaS] Sugar on a Stick Flash compatibility?

2009-11-03 Thread Sean DALY
Can someone remind me please how Flash content is supported in Sugar on a Stick? Is Gnash in there, or needs to be added? I imagine the Adobe plugin would need to be added by hand. I'm not sure we mention what if anything stick preparers need to do to view online Flash content? thanks Sean __