Re: [SoaS] Fwd: Retired Fedora packages with maintainers

[Alex Perez]

Great, thanks for the clarification on the packages below, as well as
the webkit2gtk3 package names.

> Peter Robinson 
> May 12, 2020 at 2:27 PM
>> Here's a curated list of packages that are/may be relevant to us/SoaS:
>>
>> rpms/sugar-analyze is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
>> rpms/sugar-analyze is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': 
>> pbrobinson, tuxbrewr, callkalpa
> This was retired in f-29, I don't remember why, it'll need to under go
> a new review process
>
>> rpms/sugar-help is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
>> rpms/sugar-help is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': pbrobinson, 
>> callkalpa
> This was retired in f-26, I don't remember why, it'll need to under go
> a new review process
>
>> rpms/sugar-presence-service is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': 
>> pbrobinson, tomeu
> This was retired because it was removed as a requirement in sugar
> years ago, I had asked they eToys upstream maintainers for over 3
> years to port it to the newer sugar APIs and hence eToys was retired,
> there's no reason to have sugar-presence-service
>
>> rpms/webkitgtk is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
>> rpms/webkitgtk is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': pwalter, 
>> kevin, tpopela, huzaifas, mso
>> rpms/webkitgtk3 is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
>> rpms/webkitgtk3 is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': phatina, 
>> mclasen, pwalter, tpopela 'groups': @gnome-sig
>> rpms/webkitgtk4 is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
>> rpms/webkitgtk4 is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': tpopela, 
>> kalev, catanzaro 'groups': @gnome-sig
> These have moved around and are provided by various packages, I
> believe sugar only requires the last one and it's provided by
> webkit2gtk3 so there's no issue here that I can see.
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> Alex Perez 
> May 12, 2020 at 10:13 AM
> FYI. See below e-mail. There may be others in the list that I'm
> unaware of. Ibiam, we should probably get you set up as a maintainer
> for the sugar packages listed below:
>
> Here's a curated list of packages that are/may be relevant to us/SoaS:
>
> rpms/sugar-analyze is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
> rpms/sugar-analyze is retired and has the following: 'maintainers':
> pbrobinson, tuxbrewr, callkalpa
> rpms/sugar-help is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
> rpms/sugar-help is retired and has the following: 'maintainers':
> pbrobinson, callkalpa
> rpms/sugar-presence-service is retired and has the following:
> 'maintainers': pbrobinson, tomeu
> rpms/webkitgtk is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
> rpms/webkitgtk is retired and has the following: 'maintainers':
> pwalter, kevin, tpopela, huzaifas, mso
> rpms/webkitgtk3 is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
> rpms/webkitgtk3 is retired and has the following: 'maintainers':
> phatina, mclasen, pwalter, tpopela 'groups': @gnome-sig
> rpms/webkitgtk4 is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
> rpms/webkitgtk4 is retired and has the following: 'maintainers':
> tpopela, kalev, catanzaro 'groups': @gnome-sig
>
>
>
>> *From:* Pierre-Yves Chibon 
>> *Date:* May 11, 2020 at 11:49 PM
>> *To:* devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org
>> *Subject:* Retired packages with maintainers
>> Good Morning Everyone,
>>
>> A little while ago we have received the request on the infra issue
>> tracker to
>> remove all maintainers of retired packages [1].
>>
>> So today I decided to look at what this would look like and wrote a
>> script that
>> queries PDC for the list of all branches on all projects [2], gather
>> from it a
>> list of all the packages that are retired on all their branches (so
>> all branches
>> are ``active=false``).
>> For each of these retired project, it queries dist-git to find out if
>> they still
>> have maintainers in addition to the ``orphan`` user.
>>
>> The outcome of this script can be found there:
>>
>> https://pingou.fedorapeople.org/retired_packages_with_maintainers.log
>>
>>
>> Some stats about this:
>> - 881 RPM packages are retired and still have maintainers (out of
>> 4322 retired
>> RPMs).
>> - 662 of them are not orphaned
>> - 42 modules are retired and still have maintainers (out of 42
>> retired modules).
>> - all of them are not orphaned
>> - 2 containers are retired and still have maintainers (out of 3 retired
>> containers).
>> - all of them are not orphaned
>>
>> Which brings a couple of questions:
>> - Do we have a documented way to mark modules as orphaned or retired?
>> - Should we orphan all the RPM packages that are retired but not
>> orphaned?
>>
>>
>> Finally, does everyone agree about the original request: "remove all
>> maintainers
>> of retired packages"? Or should we bring this to 

Re: [SoaS] Fwd: Retired Fedora packages with maintainers

[Peter Robinson]

> Here's a curated list of packages that are/may be relevant to us/SoaS:
>
> rpms/sugar-analyze is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
> rpms/sugar-analyze is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': 
> pbrobinson, tuxbrewr, callkalpa

This was retired in f-29, I don't remember why, it'll need to under go
a new review process

> rpms/sugar-help is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
> rpms/sugar-help is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': pbrobinson, 
> callkalpa

This was retired in f-26, I don't remember why, it'll need to under go
a new review process

> rpms/sugar-presence-service is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': 
> pbrobinson, tomeu

This was retired because it was removed as a requirement in sugar
years ago, I had asked they eToys upstream maintainers for over 3
years to port it to the newer sugar APIs and hence eToys was retired,
there's no reason to have sugar-presence-service

> rpms/webkitgtk is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
> rpms/webkitgtk is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': pwalter, 
> kevin, tpopela, huzaifas, mso
> rpms/webkitgtk3 is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
> rpms/webkitgtk3 is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': phatina, 
> mclasen, pwalter, tpopela 'groups': @gnome-sig
> rpms/webkitgtk4 is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
> rpms/webkitgtk4 is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': tpopela, 
> kalev, catanzaro 'groups': @gnome-sig

These have moved around and are provided by various packages, I
believe sugar only requires the last one and it's provided by
webkit2gtk3 so there's no issue here that I can see.
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Re: [SoaS] Fwd: Retired Fedora packages with maintainers

[Chihurumnaya Ibiam]

Yes it was removed as one of the defaults as it hasn't been ported to
python3 yet,
once it's ported I'll update it and you should get it in the next upgrade.

On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 6:27 PM Thomas Gilliard 
wrote:

> Note that irc works in Soas but is not installed.
> Dnf install in sugar terminal works, then call it in terminal.
>
> On May 12, 2020, at 10:14 AM, Alex Perez  wrote:
>
> 
>
> FYI. See below e-mail. There may be others in the list that I'm unaware of. 
> Ibiam, we should probably get you set up as a maintainer
> for the sugar packages listed below:
>
> Here's a curated list of packages that are/may be relevant to us/SoaS:
>
> rpms/sugar-analyze is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
> rpms/sugar-analyze is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': 
> pbrobinson, tuxbrewr, callkalpa
> rpms/sugar-help is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
> rpms/sugar-help is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': pbrobinson, 
> callkalpa
> rpms/sugar-presence-service is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': 
> pbrobinson, tomeu
>
> rpms/webkitgtk is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
> rpms/webkitgtk is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': pwalter, 
> kevin, tpopela, huzaifas, mso
> rpms/webkitgtk3 is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
> rpms/webkitgtk3 is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': phatina, 
> mclasen, pwalter, tpopela 'groups': @gnome-sig
> rpms/webkitgtk4 is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
> rpms/webkitgtk4 is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': tpopela, 
> kalev, catanzaro 'groups': @gnome-sig
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Pierre-Yves Chibon  
> *Date:* May 11, 2020 at 11:49 PM
> *To:* devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org
> *Subject:* Retired packages with maintainers
>
> Good Morning Everyone,
>
> A little while ago we have received the request on the infra issue tracker to
> remove all maintainers of retired packages [1].
>
> So today I decided to look at what this would look like and wrote a script 
> that
> queries PDC for the list of all branches on all projects [2], gather from it a
> list of all the packages that are retired on all their branches (so all 
> branches
> are ``active=false``).
> For each of these retired project, it queries dist-git to find out if they 
> still
> have maintainers in addition to the ``orphan`` user.
>
> The outcome of this script can be found there:
>
>   https://pingou.fedorapeople.org/retired_packages_with_maintainers.log
>
>
> Some stats about this:
> - 881 RPM packages are retired and still have maintainers (out of 4322 retired
>   RPMs).
> - 662 of them are not orphaned
> - 42 modules are retired and still have maintainers (out of 42 retired 
> modules).
> - all of them are not orphaned
> - 2 containers are retired and still have maintainers (out of 3 retired
>   containers).
> - all of them are not orphaned
>
> Which brings a couple of questions:
> - Do we have a documented way to mark modules as orphaned or retired?
> - Should we orphan all the RPM packages that are retired but not orphaned?
>
>
> Finally, does everyone agree about the original request: "remove all 
> maintainers
> of retired packages"? Or should we bring this to FESCo?
>
>
> Thanks for your inputs,
>
> Pierre
>
>
> [1] https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8600
> [2] https://pdc.fedoraproject.org/extras/active_branches.json (8+Mb file)
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Re: [SoaS] Fwd: Retired Fedora packages with maintainers

[Chihurumnaya Ibiam]

I've asked Peter to add me as a maintainer to some of the packages listed
above.

sugar-presence-service was only used by etoys-sugar package which has now
been retired.
webkitgtk4 is now webkit2gtk3 and is still being maintained.

On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 6:14 PM Alex Perez  wrote:

> FYI. See below e-mail. There may be others in the list that I'm unaware of. 
> Ibiam, we should probably get you set up as a maintainer
> for the sugar packages listed below:
>
> Here's a curated list of packages that are/may be relevant to us/SoaS:
>
> rpms/sugar-analyze is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
> rpms/sugar-analyze is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': 
> pbrobinson, tuxbrewr, callkalpa
> rpms/sugar-help is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
> rpms/sugar-help is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': pbrobinson, 
> callkalpa
> rpms/sugar-presence-service is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': 
> pbrobinson, tomeu
>
> rpms/webkitgtk is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
> rpms/webkitgtk is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': pwalter, 
> kevin, tpopela, huzaifas, mso
> rpms/webkitgtk3 is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
> rpms/webkitgtk3 is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': phatina, 
> mclasen, pwalter, tpopela 'groups': @gnome-sig
> rpms/webkitgtk4 is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
> rpms/webkitgtk4 is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': tpopela, 
> kalev, catanzaro 'groups': @gnome-sig
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Pierre-Yves Chibon  
> *Date:* May 11, 2020 at 11:49 PM
> *To:* devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org
> *Subject:* Retired packages with maintainers
>
> Good Morning Everyone,
>
> A little while ago we have received the request on the infra issue tracker to
> remove all maintainers of retired packages [1].
>
> So today I decided to look at what this would look like and wrote a script 
> that
> queries PDC for the list of all branches on all projects [2], gather from it a
> list of all the packages that are retired on all their branches (so all 
> branches
> are ``active=false``).
> For each of these retired project, it queries dist-git to find out if they 
> still
> have maintainers in addition to the ``orphan`` user.
>
> The outcome of this script can be found there:
>
>   https://pingou.fedorapeople.org/retired_packages_with_maintainers.log
>
>
> Some stats about this:
> - 881 RPM packages are retired and still have maintainers (out of 4322 retired
>   RPMs).
> - 662 of them are not orphaned
> - 42 modules are retired and still have maintainers (out of 42 retired 
> modules).
> - all of them are not orphaned
> - 2 containers are retired and still have maintainers (out of 3 retired
>   containers).
> - all of them are not orphaned
>
> Which brings a couple of questions:
> - Do we have a documented way to mark modules as orphaned or retired?
> - Should we orphan all the RPM packages that are retired but not orphaned?
>
>
> Finally, does everyone agree about the original request: "remove all 
> maintainers
> of retired packages"? Or should we bring this to FESCo?
>
>
> Thanks for your inputs,
>
> Pierre
>
>
> [1] https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8600
> [2] https://pdc.fedoraproject.org/extras/active_branches.json (8+Mb file)
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Re: [SoaS] Fwd: Retired Fedora packages with maintainers

[Thomas Gilliard]

Note that irc works in Soas but is not installed.
Dnf install in sugar terminal works, then call it in terminal.

> On May 12, 2020, at 10:14 AM, Alex Perez  wrote:
> 
> 
> FYI. See below e-mail. There may be others in the list that I'm unaware of. 
> Ibiam, we should probably get you set up as a maintainer
> for the sugar packages listed below:
> 
> Here's a curated list of packages that are/may be relevant to us/SoaS:
> 
> rpms/sugar-analyze is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
> rpms/sugar-analyze is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': 
> pbrobinson, tuxbrewr, callkalpa
> rpms/sugar-help is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
> rpms/sugar-help is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': pbrobinson, 
> callkalpa
> rpms/sugar-presence-service is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': 
> pbrobinson, tomeu
> rpms/webkitgtk is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
> rpms/webkitgtk is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': pwalter, 
> kevin, tpopela, huzaifas, mso
> rpms/webkitgtk3 is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
> rpms/webkitgtk3 is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': phatina, 
> mclasen, pwalter, tpopela 'groups': @gnome-sig
> rpms/webkitgtk4 is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
> rpms/webkitgtk4 is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': tpopela, 
> kalev, catanzaro 'groups': @gnome-sig
> 
> 
> 
>> From: Pierre-Yves Chibon 
>> Date: May 11, 2020 at 11:49 PM
>> To: devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org
>> Subject: Retired packages with maintainers
>> Good Morning Everyone,
>> 
>> A little while ago we have received the request on the infra issue tracker to
>> remove all maintainers of retired packages [1].
>> 
>> So today I decided to look at what this would look like and wrote a script 
>> that
>> queries PDC for the list of all branches on all projects [2], gather from it 
>> a
>> list of all the packages that are retired on all their branches (so all 
>> branches
>> are ``active=false``).
>> For each of these retired project, it queries dist-git to find out if they 
>> still
>> have maintainers in addition to the ``orphan`` user.
>> 
>> The outcome of this script can be found there:
>> 
>>   https://pingou.fedorapeople.org/retired_packages_with_maintainers.log
>> 
>> 
>> Some stats about this:
>> - 881 RPM packages are retired and still have maintainers (out of 4322 
>> retired
>>   RPMs).
>> - 662 of them are not orphaned
>> - 42 modules are retired and still have maintainers (out of 42 retired 
>> modules).
>> - all of them are not orphaned
>> - 2 containers are retired and still have maintainers (out of 3 retired
>>   containers).
>> - all of them are not orphaned
>> 
>> Which brings a couple of questions:
>> - Do we have a documented way to mark modules as orphaned or retired?
>> - Should we orphan all the RPM packages that are retired but not orphaned?
>> 
>> 
>> Finally, does everyone agree about the original request: "remove all 
>> maintainers
>> of retired packages"? Or should we bring this to FESCo?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for your inputs,
>> 
>> Pierre
>> 
>> 
>> [1] https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8600
>> [2] https://pdc.fedoraproject.org/extras/active_branches.json (8+Mb file)
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[SoaS] Fwd: Retired Fedora packages with maintainers

[Alex Perez]

FYI. See below e-mail. There may be others in the list that I'm unaware of. 
Ibiam, we should probably get you set up as a maintainer
for the sugar packages listed below:

Here's a curated list of packages that are/may be relevant to us/SoaS:

rpms/sugar-analyze is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
rpms/sugar-analyze is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': pbrobinson, 
tuxbrewr, callkalpa
rpms/sugar-help is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
rpms/sugar-help is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': pbrobinson, 
callkalpa
rpms/sugar-presence-service is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': 
pbrobinson, tomeu

rpms/webkitgtk is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
rpms/webkitgtk is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': pwalter, kevin, 
tpopela, huzaifas, mso
rpms/webkitgtk3 is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
rpms/webkitgtk3 is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': phatina, 
mclasen, pwalter, tpopela 'groups': @gnome-sig
rpms/webkitgtk4 is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
rpms/webkitgtk4 is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': tpopela, 
kalev, catanzaro 'groups': @gnome-sig




> *From:* Pierre-Yves Chibon 
> *Date:* May 11, 2020 at 11:49 PM
> *To:* devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org
> *Subject:* Retired packages with maintainers
> Good Morning Everyone,
>
> A little while ago we have received the request on the infra issue tracker to
> remove all maintainers of retired packages [1].
>
> So today I decided to look at what this would look like and wrote a script 
> that
> queries PDC for the list of all branches on all projects [2], gather from it a
> list of all the packages that are retired on all their branches (so all 
> branches
> are ``active=false``).
> For each of these retired project, it queries dist-git to find out if they 
> still
> have maintainers in addition to the ``orphan`` user.
>
> The outcome of this script can be found there:
>
>   https://pingou.fedorapeople.org/retired_packages_with_maintainers.log
>
>
> Some stats about this:
> - 881 RPM packages are retired and still have maintainers (out of 4322 retired
>   RPMs).
> - 662 of them are not orphaned
> - 42 modules are retired and still have maintainers (out of 42 retired 
> modules).
> - all of them are not orphaned
> - 2 containers are retired and still have maintainers (out of 3 retired
>   containers).
> - all of them are not orphaned
>
> Which brings a couple of questions:
> - Do we have a documented way to mark modules as orphaned or retired?
> - Should we orphan all the RPM packages that are retired but not orphaned?
>
>
> Finally, does everyone agree about the original request: "remove all 
> maintainers
> of retired packages"? Or should we bring this to FESCo?
>
>
> Thanks for your inputs,
>
> Pierre
>
>
> [1] https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8600
> [2] https://pdc.fedoraproject.org/extras/active_branches.json (8+Mb file)
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