[SOCIAL CREDIT] Alaska Provisional Governing Council

2003-11-09 Thread Wallace M. Klinck
Hello Bill, I have been unable to find the information which you asked for re the Alaska Provisional Governing Council. However, I have managed to locate the following information on the Alaska Inter-Tribal Council which I hope may be helpful, although I doubt that it is exactly what you were

Re: [SOCIAL CREDIT] USSR as a model?

2003-11-09 Thread douglas-McLellan
- Original Message - From: Pat Gunning [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 4:46 AM Subject: [SOCIAL CREDIT] USSR as a model? The message by Wes Burt, on which I am commenting in this email, was apparently sent to several lists and to others but not

Re: [SOCIAL CREDIT] Alaska Provisional Governing Council

2003-11-09 Thread william_b_ryan
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RE: [SOCIAL CREDIT] final comment-Gunning

2003-11-09 Thread william_b_ryan
**In any case, you say it is directed at all retail businesses. Do you assume that a uniform amount will be given to each business?** No, it is a flat percentage of each firm's sales, like a sales tax in reverse, except the program has no connection with the taxing

[SOCIAL CREDIT] Zimbabwe

2003-11-09 Thread william_b_ryan
The main problem is that Zimbabwe is no longer a modern economy; it has reverted to primitive barter. Talk about printing money? The money became so worthless they couldn't use it to purchase paper or ink to print it on. They literally ran out of both so the printing stopped. A first in

[SOCIAL CREDIT] further questions and answers

2003-11-09 Thread william_b_ryan
The flat tax, advocated by Steve Forbes and others in order to raise revenue to finance the U.S. government, is clearly superior as a way for the government to obtain money than to impose a graduated income tax with numerous and complicated exclusions, deductions, and exceptions. But it does

Re: [SOCIAL CREDIT] final comment-Gunning

2003-11-09 Thread Pat Gunning
Thanks, Bill. I have been mistaken in thinking that you were an economist. This is where we part company. It is only in a world without scarcity that a money tree could take root. In such a world, there is no need for economists. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- **To fully understand the effects

Re: [SOCIAL CREDIT] USSR as a model?

2003-11-09 Thread Pat Gunning
Thanks Douglas. With all due respect, it is evident that you do not understand the critique of socialist central planning. There is so much specialization today that it would be impossible to monitor everything, even if one knew what to monitor. Computers are wonderful instruments. But I'm

Re: [SOCIAL CREDIT] USSR as a model?

2003-11-09 Thread william_b_ryan
Wes is a member of this and is invited to participate in the discussions. As moderator I didn't forward this specific message to the list because the very same message was forwarded to several other lists as he commonly does. I think practically everyone on this list already gets his

[SOCIAL CREDIT] final comment-Gunning-sarcasm

2003-11-09 Thread william_b_ryan
**Thanks, Bill. I have been mistaken in thinking that you were an economist. This is where we part company. It is only in a world without scarcity that a money tree could take root. In such a world, there is no need for economists.** There is no need for sarcasm. Scarce does

Re: [SOCIAL CREDIT] final comment-Gunning-sarcasm

2003-11-09 Thread Keith Wilde
Well, this is a relief. A couple of weeks ago I was sure I saw what appeared to be an agreeement between you two that natural resources are abundant. Then last week someone showed me some quotations which suggest that economists (Wm Nordhaus for one) have discovered that capital has succeeded in

Re: [SOCIAL CREDIT] final comment-Gunning-sarcasm

2003-11-09 Thread william_b_ryan
**Well, if you want my opinion on this, you will have to define standard marginalism in your terms.** How about intro Nordhaus or Samuelson, any edition? Or perhaps Heilbroner's micro? I am simply trying to establish you as a legitimate proxy for the mainstream position in

Re: [SOCIAL CREDIT] final comment-Gunning-sarcasm

2003-11-09 Thread william_b_ryan
**A couple of weeks ago I was sure I saw what appeared to be an agreement between you two that natural resources are abundant.** I think you may be thinking of Professor Rosser over on the Post Keynesian list, which I believe you subscribe to. Good to hear from you.