Re: [Soekris] Choosing Compact flash (Was: Memory upgrade)

2007-12-18 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 04:54:19PM +0100, Esteban Ribičić wrote: >is it mounted sync or async? I can't imagine that would matter for a read test. Mike Stone ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/li

Re: [Soekris] Choosing Compact flash (Was: Memory upgrade)

2007-12-18 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2007/12/18 00:33, Joel Jaeggli wrote: >> sata ssds that are even faster are possible but command a substantial >> price premium... > > In the 5501, it looks like the SATA connector is bridged to the same > IDE interface as the CF card. It is. Which is why you see sata

[Soekris] net4801 DC INPUT

2007-12-18 Thread Christophe Prevotaux
Hello, There is a value for input voltage of the net4801 on the website of soekris of 6-20VDC but on the PDF manual it says 6-28VDC. Which one is correct ? is it 20VDC or 28VDC max input voltage ? -- -- Christophe Prevotaux tel: +1 416

Re: [Soekris] Choosing Compact flash (Was: Memory upgrade)

2007-12-18 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Bill Maas wrote: > Hi Pontus, > > On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 10:07 +0100, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: >>> sata ssds that are even faster are possible but command a substantial >>> price premium... >>> >>> >> This is what confuses me, the benchmarks and general experience of >> posters in this thread say

Re: [Soekris] Choosing Compact flash (Was: Memory upgrade)

2007-12-18 Thread Bill Maas
Hi Pontus, On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 10:07 +0100, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > > sata ssds that are even faster are possible but command a substantial > > price premium... > > > > > This is what confuses me, the benchmarks and general experience of > posters in this thread says that I should not expec

Re: [Soekris] Choosing Compact flash (Was: Memory upgrade)

2007-12-18 Thread Brian Candler
On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 04:54:19PM +0100, Esteban Ribičić wrote: > is it mounted sync or async? The figures quoted were for reads, not writes, so I don't think it would make any difference... ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com h

Re: [Soekris] Choosing Compact flash (Was: Memory upgrade)

2007-12-18 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:51:53 +0100, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: >That is certainly encouraging. Anyone who has a card marked 20 MB/s that >could do the same? See http://www.lexar.com/digfilm/cf_udma.html They state that the specified speed is "minimum sustained write speed capability of a blazing 30

Re: [Soekris] Choosing Compact flash (Was: Memory upgrade)

2007-12-18 Thread RB
I find bonnie++ to be particularly useful; given the small test size, the original bonnie may suffice as well. ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech

Re: [Soekris] Choosing Compact flash (Was: Memory upgrade)

2007-12-18 Thread Esteban Ribičić
agree, dd is a true *nix tool. What does people use to measure seek times on CF? I think considering the size of CF , most I/O will last a few seconds so seek time would come more interesting than plain and boring R/W... On 12/18/07, Iustin Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at

Re: [Soekris] Choosing Compact flash (Was: Memory upgrade)

2007-12-18 Thread Iustin Pop
On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 04:31:48PM +0100, Bent wrote: > For what it is worth, here is a measurement done on a 5501 running Gentoo > Linux: > > leopold ~ # hdparm -tT /dev/hda I would not trust hdparm for [any kind of] benchmarking. As I pointed before, use dd with iflag=direct which skips the ca

Re: [Soekris] Choosing Compact flash (Was: Memory upgrade)

2007-12-18 Thread Pontus
Esteban Ribičić wrote: > is it mounted sync or async? > Reading through the man page of hdparm, I gather that the benchmark performed using the -t flag will flush the IO-buffers and then read from the device. And since hdparm talks directly with the device, not via the file system, I think the r

Re: [Soekris] Choosing Compact flash (Was: Memory upgrade)

2007-12-18 Thread Esteban Ribičić
hi bent, when mounting a dev u can pass a few parameters , one of them is -o async or -o sync which tells whether the kernel will i/o to the device straight ahead or buffer in memory first (speed varies dramatically). not sure what's linux kernel default, i guess async? nor how the hdparm test neit

Re: [Soekris] Choosing Compact flash (Was: Memory upgrade)

2007-12-18 Thread Bent
Hi Esteban 2007/12/18, Esteban Ribičić <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > is it mounted sync or async? > Sorry for my ignorance, but how do you tell sync or async? Bent ___ Soekris-tech mailing list Soekris-tech@lists.soekris.com http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/l

Re: [Soekris] Choosing Compact flash (Was: Memory upgrade)

2007-12-18 Thread Esteban Ribičić
is it mounted sync or async? On 12/18/07, Bent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For what it is worth, here is a measurement done on a 5501 running Gentoo > Linux: > > leopold ~ # hdparm -tT /dev/hda > > /dev/hda: > Timing cached reads: 390 MB in 2.01 seconds = 194.14 MB/sec > Timing buffered dis

Re: [Soekris] Choosing Compact flash (Was: Memory upgrade)

2007-12-18 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
Bent skrev: > For what it is worth, here is a measurement done on a 5501 running Gentoo > Linux: > > leopold ~ # hdparm -tT /dev/hda > > /dev/hda: > Timing cached reads: 390 MB in 2.01 seconds = 194.14 MB/sec > Timing buffered disk reads: 34 MB in 3.14 seconds = 10.82 MB/sec > leopold ~ #

Re: [Soekris] Choosing Compact flash (Was: Memory upgrade)

2007-12-18 Thread Bent
For what it is worth, here is a measurement done on a 5501 running Gentoo Linux: leopold ~ # hdparm -tT /dev/hda /dev/hda: Timing cached reads: 390 MB in 2.01 seconds = 194.14 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 34 MB in 3.14 seconds = 10.82 MB/sec leopold ~ # hdparm -tT /dev/hdb /dev/hd

Re: [Soekris] Choosing Compact flash (Was: Memory upgrade)

2007-12-18 Thread Bob Camp
Hi We live in a strange world. If you want to go high speed with a memory card, you pay money to get the "secret sauce" that allows you to do it. The open standard for hitting all of them is a slow interface. Most of the embedded community likes cheap better than fast. Bob On Dec 18, 2007

Re: [Soekris] Choosing Compact flash (Was: Memory upgrade)

2007-12-18 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/12/18 00:33, Joel Jaeggli wrote: > sata ssds that are even faster are possible but command a substantial > price premium... In the 5501, it looks like the SATA connector is bridged to the same IDE interface as the CF card. ___ Soekris-tech maili

Re: [Soekris] Choosing Compact flash (Was: Memory upgrade)

2007-12-18 Thread Bernd Walter
On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 12:19:10AM -0700, Anthony Roberts wrote: > > OpenBSD will just fit on 512 MB, including the compiler and docs. > > But that is just a bit too small when you do a recompile (due to files kept > > open by running processes). > > A 512 Mb CF card is a bit painful. Many package

Re: [Soekris] Choosing Compact flash (Was: Memory upgrade)

2007-12-18 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
Stuart Henderson skrev: >> Also, how would I identify a card with multi-sector IO. >> > > You can tell by looking at dmesg - > > wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 1: > wd0: 1-sector PIO, LBA, 991MB, 2030112 sectors > > wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: > wd0: 4-sector PIO, LBA, 1953MB, 400176

Re: [Soekris] Choosing Compact flash (Was: Memory upgrade)

2007-12-18 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
Trevor Talbot skrev: > On Dec 17, 2007, at 8:59 PM, Iustin Pop wrote: > > >> On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 11:28:51PM +0100, Pontus wrote: >> > > >>> Oh, that sounds a bit discouraging. Isn't CF just a variant of the IDE >>> bus, and should therefore be able to reach speeds of 33 - 133 MB/s >>

Re: [Soekris] Choosing Compact flash (Was: Memory upgrade)

2007-12-18 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
Joel Jaeggli skrev: > Trevor Talbot wrote: > >> On Dec 17, 2007, at 8:59 PM, Iustin Pop wrote: >> >> >>> On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 11:28:51PM +0100, Pontus wrote: >>> Oh, that sounds a bit discouraging. Isn't CF just a variant of the IDE bus, and should therefore be able to r

[Soekris] 5501 USB2 External Hard Disk support under FreeBSD

2007-12-18 Thread Martin Johnson
Hi Has anyone had a chance of test the stability of external USB2 hard disks attached to the 5501's USB port? Preferably under FreeBSD. If I recall correctly, you can't boot from a USB hard disk because the BIOS doesn't support it. But if I boot from some other device, is there any reason

Re: [Soekris] Choosing Compact flash (Was: Memory upgrade)

2007-12-18 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Trevor Talbot wrote: > On Dec 17, 2007, at 8:59 PM, Iustin Pop wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 11:28:51PM +0100, Pontus wrote: > >>> Oh, that sounds a bit discouraging. Isn't CF just a variant of the IDE >>> bus, and should therefore be able to reach speeds of 33 - 133 MB/s >>> depending on t