RE: Softimage Devs petition

2014-03-04 Thread Sven Constable
...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Matt Lind Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 1:25 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: Softimage Devs petition Sowho's going to deliver the message at AD? Won't be Marc Petit for obvious reasons

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2014-03-03 Thread Doeke Wartena
Does someone have a link where i can read si2015 is the last one? And if so, that's so tragic. 2014-03-01 13:59 GMT+01:00 Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com : their are software discussions on 4Chan ? all right who ever is responsible, your ribbing awaits show yourself !

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2014-03-03 Thread Emilio Hernandez
Still no official announcement yet AFAIK. All the ADSK guys here are so quite though... 2014-03-03 10:56 GMT-06:00 Doeke Wartena clankil...@gmail.com: Does someone have a link where i can read si2015 is the last one? And if so, that's so tragic. 2014-03-01 13:59 GMT+01:00 Sebastien

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2014-03-03 Thread Mirko Jankovic
well they probably started rumor as a leak a bit earlier hoping that people will steam off first and not to be so loud once they announce it. if that is a case well they are wrong about it. a lot of people will still mention their families in a way not proper even for forums to mention :) On

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2014-03-03 Thread Eric Thivierge
Wait until tomorrow... rumored to be posted then. On 3/3/2014 11:56 AM, Doeke Wartena wrote: Does someone have a link where i can read si2015 is the last one? And if so, that's so tragic.

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2014-03-03 Thread Angus Davidson
Probably involving goats. From: Mirko Jankovic [mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com] Sent: 03 March 2014 07:12 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Softimage Devs petition well they probably started rumor as a leak a bit earlier hoping that people will steam

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2014-03-03 Thread Emilio Hernandez
Yes tomorrow is supposed to be the official announcement. Maybe also they leaked this rumor before to see how would we react, and how much of us will convert to that F$2#%$2!# Maya. 2014-03-03 11:13 GMT-06:00 Eric Thivierge ethivie...@hybride.com: Wait until tomorrow... rumored to be

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2014-03-03 Thread Ed Manning
Make no mistake, to AD, we are the goats. Or lambs to the slaughter...

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2014-03-03 Thread Rares Halmagean
That would be bad news. I hope it's not true but I'm sure many people on this list are not surprised given AD's strategy, or lack of, with SI. Honestly though it doesn't make good business sense to develop 3 dcc apps that overlap in many ways, so it shouldn't be unexpected for a company like

Re: Softimage Devs petition

2014-03-03 Thread Stephan Hempel
Maybe Autodesk should sell the whole ME division to the community before they dump any valuable asset into the ground and therefore decrease the total value of ME. Given that ME only contributes 7% to their profits lets me wonder why they moved into this business in the first place. I think

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2014-03-03 Thread Paul Griswold
I don't think Autodesk cares at ALL about any of the ME packages they own. They've recognized the value of patents and intellectual property. It's the reason IBM is still around today. If Autodesk scoops up all the intellectual property, it doesn't matter if they cancel every ME product they

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2014-03-03 Thread Stephan Hempel
unfortunately so true... In my opinion as a company you should not only have a responsibility for your products but also towards your customers. But as seen in the last couple of years this seams not more relevant to stock corporations. The misfortune with Autodesk is that a whole industry is

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2014-03-03 Thread Alexander Akbarov
It seem that they don't have any Softimage Expert there, they didn't mention about Softimage in their upcoming Expert Challenge http://www.maxunderground.com/archives/20656_autodesk_expert_challenge___march_2014.html#comments But anyway there is a form there... 2014-03-03 21:49 GMT+02:00 Stephan

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2014-03-03 Thread Martin Contel
Wait a minute, are you serious that today (March 4th) Autodesk will announce that Softimage 2015 is the last version they will release?!?! -- Martin Contel Square Enix (Visual Works)

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2014-03-03 Thread Eric Thivierge
I suspect somewhere around 12-16 hrs from now-ish. On Monday, March 03, 2014 7:13:49 PM, Martin Contel wrote: Wait a minute, are you serious that today (March 4th) Autodesk will announce that Softimage 2015 is the last version they will release?!?! -- Martin Contel Square Enix (Visual Works)

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2014-03-03 Thread Martin Contel
:__( -- Martin Contel Square Enix (Visual Works) On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@hybride.comwrote: I suspect somewhere around 12-16 hrs from now-ish. On Monday, March 03, 2014 7:13:49 PM, Martin Contel wrote: Wait a minute, are you serious that today

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2014-03-03 Thread Matt Lind
4:18 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Cc: Stephan Hempel Subject: Re: Softimage Devs petition I suspect somewhere around 12-16 hrs from now-ish. On Monday, March 03, 2014 7:13:49 PM, Martin Contel wrote: Wait a minute, are you serious that today (March 4th) Autodesk will announce

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2014-03-03 Thread James De Colling
: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Thivierge Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 4:18 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Cc: Stephan Hempel Subject: Re: Softimage Devs petition I suspect somewhere around 12-16 hrs from now

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2014-03-03 Thread Steven Caron
1) the board and chris bradshaw 2) cory morgk or chris bradshaw 3) 250 mb On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote: Sowho's going to deliver the message at AD? Won't be Marc Petit for obvious reasons. Let's have a wager on the following: 1) Who made

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2014-03-03 Thread Eric Thivierge
1. The board. 2. Marc Stephans 3. I dunno On Monday, March 03, 2014 7:28:54 PM, Steven Caron wrote: 1) the board and chris bradshaw 2) cory morgk or chris bradshaw 3) 250 mb On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com mailto:ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote:

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2014-03-03 Thread Emilio Hernandez
1. The guy in charge of Maya with a big smile. 2. Crhis Bradshaw and his puddle. 3. The janitor in his personal blog. 2014-03-03 18:32 GMT-06:00 Eric Thivierge ethivie...@hybride.com: 1. The board. 2. Marc Stephans 3. I dunno On Monday, March 03, 2014 7:28:54 PM, Steven Caron wrote:

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2014-03-03 Thread MaurĂ­cio PC
1. F@cking board. 2. Cory Morgk 3. 175 mb On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@hybride.comwrote: 1. The board. 2. Marc Stephans 3. I dunno On Monday, March 03, 2014 7:28:54 PM, Steven Caron wrote: 1) the board and chris bradshaw 2) cory morgk or chris bradshaw

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2014-03-03 Thread Rares Halmagean
: Stephan Hempel Subject: Re: Softimage Devs petition I suspect somewhere around 12-16 hrs from now-ish. On Monday, March 03, 2014 7:13:49 PM, Martin Contel wrote: Wait a minute, are you serious that today (March 4th) Autodesk will announce that Softimage 2015 is the last version they will release

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2014-03-03 Thread John Clausing
Here's some questions AD is a software seller right? So they should understand unique software abilities? Softimage is the best package of the AD 3, or at least has some awesome tech the others lack? So what does AD do with the Soft Dev that they own? Dump it? No, they understand software

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2014-03-03 Thread Sebastien Sterling
Nex, Bitfrost, moving the soft team onto maya, the new look of the node editor, i'd say they are doing some pretty desperat folding, however both your options whether selective asimilation, or abandone mont have the same outcome. softimage gets the shaft. On 4 March 2014 00:53, John Clausing

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2014-03-03 Thread Ed Manning
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: Nex, Bitfrost, moving the soft team onto maya, the new look of the node editor, i'd say they are doing some pretty desperat folding, however both your options whether selective asimilation, or abandone mont

RE: Softimage Devs petition

2014-03-03 Thread Angus Davidson
From: Ed Manning [etmth...@gmail.com] Sent: 04 March 2014 05:57 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Softimage Devs petition On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.commailto:sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote

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2014-03-03 Thread nick name
...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Eric Thivierge Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 4:18 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Cc: Stephan Hempel Subject: Re: Softimage Devs petition I suspect somewhere around 12-16 hrs from now-ish. On Monday, March 03, 2014 7:13

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2014-03-01 Thread Sebastien Sterling
you'd need to get all the big companies chatting, that would include the japanese compagnies as well. On 1 March 2014 13:27, Ognjen Vukovic ognj...@gmail.com wrote: Would creating a net petition and getting a tone of people to sign up actually have any chance of making a difference? Theres

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2014-03-01 Thread Ognjen Vukovic
Wouldn't a pretty obvious intrusion on their pipeline already get them chatting? It seems its got a large part of the mailing list already in quite a bit of a stir. And where are all the Japanese guys, shouldn't they be around here somewhere, to my knowledge quite a lot of game studios in Japan

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2014-03-01 Thread Sebastien Sterling
I'm sure their is someone on this list that might be able to say when the list started, however id does seem to have a large concentration of western artist, might just be the language barrier. their should have been an initiative made years ago to breach the west and the east soft communities..

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2014-03-01 Thread Sebastien Sterling
their are software discussions on 4Chan ? all right who ever is responsible, your ribbing awaits show yourself ! http://4chandata.org/3/Why-do-artist-in-Asia-use-softimage-when-no-one-uses-it-here-Capcom-Konami-and-Square-Enix-use-softimage-while-everything-made-in--a166989 On 1 March 2014

Softimage Devs petition

2014-02-28 Thread Emilio Hernandez
Maybe I am a little ahead in time but just in case Don't stop your RD and updateds on your wonderful tools for Softimage just because ADSK announce that Softimage 2015 will be the last release. Although there are a lot of guys as Mirko said jumping off the boat, there are a lot of us that

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2014-02-28 Thread Nika Ragua
i`m in - not that i`m calling myself a developer - but i messed hardly with topology lately and got some results that i want to share as always ))) 2014-02-28 14:51 GMT+04:00 Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com: Maybe I am a little ahead in time but just in case Don't stop your RD and

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2014-02-28 Thread Daniel Sweeney
Im defo gonna keep using soft as a tool til it cant work any more, but it will definately be a duel pipeline, mixing in another app. have to work out what that app is yet. looking at modo. but as a tool soft will still be very valuable!! if it does happen it will be a very sad ending. Daniel

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2014-02-28 Thread Ciaran Moloney
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.comwrote: Don't stop your RD and updateds on your wonderful tools for Softimage just because ADSK announce that Softimage 2015 will be the last release. I haven't been following very closely, but where is this announcement?

Re: Softimage Devs petition

2014-02-28 Thread Ed Manning
I guess that's unnouncement then?