Re: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-09 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
I'm on your side on this Christopher, but please don't tell raff Shortcuts and UI are two different things—forcing an UI from a package with a different philosophy is just meaningless IMO. It's like playing a PS4 game with a Super Nintendo controller, it might have some shared controls but it's

Re: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-09 Thread Leendert A. Hartog
The one thing I don't necessarily understand (but I'm a hobbyist, so that may be it :D), is why heavy customization of interface, hotkeys and such, like in the hypothetical case of Maya with a distinct Softimage look feel, would be so bad. As a way to make new software more appealing to learn,

Re: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-09 Thread Mirko Jankovic
ON the one hand that would be nice. BUT the things is that Maya do some things too differently and SO ugly so having just a mask over it wouldn't be enough when Maya shows its ugly workflow face... So maybe it is better to stare at the face of the monster so you are aware at all tim what you

Re: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-09 Thread Christopher Crouzet
As soon as one understands that Raff likes coming up with—sometimes incorrect—arguments only for the fun of proving someone wrong and that he will always have the last word, we're good :) Sorry, I'm out of this discussion already. On 9 May 2014 07:28, Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.com

Re: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-09 Thread Leendert A. Hartog
In my defense, my use of the phrase look and feel was meant to encompass parts of the workflow as well. And I was talking hypothetically anyway... ;) -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com

RE: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-09 Thread Manuel Huertas Marchena
Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 16:16:05 +0200 From: hirazib...@live.nl To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: XSI GUI for Maya In my defense, my use of the phrase look and feel was meant to encompass parts of the workflow as well. And I was talking hypothetically anyway

RE: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-09 Thread Matt Lind
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Manuel Huertas Marchena Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 10:19 AM To: softimage list Subject: RE: XSI GUI for Maya Reskinning the menus vertically without changing command names or wrapping the commands, or moving the existing snapping options to two rows

Re: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-09 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
I'm interested to know how using this XSI-like UI plugin would help. I can understand for the MCP-like panel, it might not be obvious to know where the similar options are located (though they not even exist). But I'm skeptical about the Module menus (Model/Animate/Render) The maya menu is right

RE: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-09 Thread Matt Lind
09, 2014 1:16 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: XSI GUI for Maya I'm interested to know how using this XSI-like UI plugin would help. I can understand for the MCP-like panel, it might not be obvious to know where the similar options are located (though they not even exist

Re: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-09 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
I'm sorry you feel that way, but articulating a point in the face of someone's blunt dismissal might not necessarily be meant to prove you wrong. Maya's UI in term of aggregation has grown dysfunctional, the fact practically nobody around me uses it through the menus anymore, but rather has

XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-08 Thread gareth bell
Just out of idle curiosity. A while back someone posted a picture of an XSI UI/Skin that someone made for maya. Anyone know where that is? cheers

Re: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-08 Thread Dan Yargici
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/xsi_list/KkzGNexn1ME/Wn-m3RDVPOEJ DAN On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 3:22 PM, gareth bell garethb...@outlook.com wrote: Just out of idle curiosity. A while back someone posted a picture of an XSI UI/Skin that someone made for maya. Anyone know where that is?

RE: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-08 Thread gareth bell
thanks dan From: danyarg...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 15:54:05 +0100 Subject: Re: XSI GUI for Maya To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com https://groups.google.com/d/msg/xsi_list/KkzGNexn1ME/Wn-m3RDVPOEJ DAN On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 3:22 PM, gareth bell garethb...@outlook.com wrote

RE: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-08 Thread Manuel Huertas Marchena
: danyarg...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 15:54:05 +0100 Subject: Re: XSI GUI for Maya To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com https://groups.google.com/d/msg/xsi_list/KkzGNexn1ME/Wn-m3RDVPOEJ DAN On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 3:22 PM, gareth bell garethb...@outlook.com wrote: Just out of idle

RE: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-08 Thread gareth bell
I'd suggest reading the thread From: lito...@hotmail.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: XSI GUI for Maya Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 15:01:57 + whaat?!! didn't know something like that existed. Is there a link to the actual ui code/plugin? does someone know if its compatible

Re: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-08 Thread Christopher Crouzet
Subject: Re: XSI GUI for Maya To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com https://groups.google.com/d/msg/xsi_list/KkzGNexn1ME/Wn-m3RDVPOEJ DAN On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 3:22 PM, gareth bell garethb...@outlook.comwrote: Just out of idle curiosity. A while back someone posted a picture of an XSI UI

Re: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-08 Thread Leendert A. Hartog
But still, the lure of a usable interface... ;) -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com

Re: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-08 Thread Mirko Jankovic
/manuelhuertasmarchena| Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/manuelhuertas -- From: danyarg...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 15:54:05 +0100 Subject: Re: XSI GUI for Maya To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com https://groups.google.com/d/msg/xsi_list/KkzGNexn1ME/Wn

Re: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-08 Thread Eric Thivierge
Until support runs out and you're left with no time to transition. :P On Thursday, May 08, 2014 11:14:41 AM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: Or just stick to SI and keep finishing prjoects faster then anyone else ;)

Re: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-08 Thread Mirko Jankovic
true true, sadly true On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@hybride.comwrote: Until support runs out and you're left with no time to transition. :P On Thursday, May 08, 2014 11:14:41 AM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: Or just stick to SI and keep finishing prjoects faster then

Re: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-08 Thread Leendert A. Hartog
But who needs support, when they can have the Softimage UI? (sorry, couldn't resist) -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com

Re: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-08 Thread Stephan Haitz
I didn´t need the support of autodesk and its predecessors the past 10 years (but for licensing questions) so why should I need it after EOL? I have to get my work done and will not do a MAYA compromise. Why should I change to a Software which is perhaps in some years there where Softimage

Re: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-08 Thread Eric Thivierge
3rd Party devs creating fancy plug-ins who need bugs fixed to implement new technologies and features? On Thursday, May 08, 2014 11:34:25 AM, Leendert A. Hartog wrote: But who needs support, when they can have the Softimage UI? (sorry, couldn't resist)

RE: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-08 Thread gareth bell
Sorry - didnt mean to start another one of these http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvmwY8LHo1Q Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 11:44:05 -0400 From: ethivie...@hybride.com To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: XSI GUI for Maya 3rd Party devs creating fancy plug-ins who need bugs fixed

Re: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-08 Thread Leendert A. Hartog
I wouldn't call it noise per se. Threads like these are still part (and a necessary part at that) of the famous five stages of grief. I'll leave it to others to decide which stage this is at... Greetz Leendert -- Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue Administrator NOT the owner of

Re: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-08 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
/in/manuelhuertas -- From: danyarg...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 15:54:05 +0100 Subject: Re: XSI GUI for Maya To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com https://groups.google.com/d/msg/xsi_list/KkzGNexn1ME/Wn-m3RDVPOEJ DAN On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 3:22 PM, gareth

Re: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-08 Thread Jeremie Passerin
...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 15:54:05 +0100 Subject: Re: XSI GUI for Maya To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com https://groups.google.com/d/msg/xsi_list/KkzGNexn1ME/Wn-m3RDVPOEJ DAN On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 3:22 PM, gareth bell garethb...@outlook.comwrote: Just out of idle curiosity. A while

Re: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-08 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
Maybe he's had it physically beaten out of him at Weta and now wants to inflict the same on others ;) And yeah, whenever I was at Toph's desk the first thing was changing the bindings. Well, second thing, the first usually was berating him and tossing the mouse at the monitor. On Fri, May 9,

Re: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-08 Thread Eric Thivierge
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Raffaele Fragapane raffsxsil...@googlemail.com wrote: Maybe he's had it physically beaten out of him at Weta and now wants to inflict the same on others ;) And yeah, whenever I was at Toph's desk the first thing was changing the bindings. Well, second thing,

Re: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-08 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
That's why all animators had tablets. On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Raffaele Fragapane raffsxsil...@googlemail.com wrote: Maybe he's had it physically beaten out of him at Weta and now wants to inflict the same

Re: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-08 Thread Christopher Crouzet
Shortcuts and UI are two different things—forcing an UI from a package with a different philosophy is just meaningless IMO. It's like playing a PS4 game with a Super Nintendo controller, it might have some shared controls but it's not the same interface and won't work but if you agree on not being

Re: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-08 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
It's absolutely no different than keybindings, you are simply changing the mapping of something. Instead of changing the mapping of a functionality to a different spot on the keyboard you are doing the same thing for an item from a menu to a difference screen space and, potentially, path of

Re: XSI GUI for Maya

2014-05-08 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
Are we allowed to make jokes about the French and surrender on the list? I would accept retorts based around spaghetti in exchange :) On 9 May 2014 11:55, Christopher Crouzet christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote: ​ On 8 May 2014 21:43, Raffaele Fragapane raffsxsil...@googlemail.comwrote: