Re: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1
Hi Steven, There's nothing wrong with the current state of the plugin, what I wanted to add doesn't even make much sense in the context of Qt integration alone. I simply wanted to add a mouse hook and also have some custom code to check some user preferences for a custom plugin I'm working on which should use that mouse hook. That, and the outlook of have it all running in Python and abandoning compiling and dependencies on additional libs and tools (Qt sources, cmake) was my motivation. I also keep hearing people asking for a working Linux version. What would be needed in order to get this code working under linux? Of course, that's all functionality Softimage should've been providing out of the box for some years now imho, but things are as they are, aren't they? S this is one of the reasons why eric at blur skipped using pyhook. he ended up using QWinMigrate, which was a class that allowed MFC apps slowly migrate their app to Qt. he and matt newell exposed QWinMigrate to python the same way PyQt was exposed/wrapped through sip. once that happened the only cpp left was on the softimage side which just exposed getting the window handle to a scripting language. in fact softimage devs could probably have done the same. i am a bit confused as to what stefan needs to change the source for, the idea of sharing the plugin is that 90% of people would not need to change the source and they could get all the functionality of Qt through python and thats a lot of power already! @stefan, what are you trying to change and why? is it an improvement or just a preference? s On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.comwrote: I didn't follow the thread but if this is running in XSI, the hook will affect the whole of XSI. -- --- Stefan Kubicek Co-founder --- keyvis digital imagery Wehrgasse 9 - Grüner Hof 1050 Vienna Austria Phone:+43/699/12614231 --- www.keyvis.at ste...@keyvis.at --- -- This email and its attachments are --confidential and for the recipient only--
Re: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1
so have you tried aloys' suggestion? creepy timer event or not, does it work? also, what bits and pieces do you need? outside the changing of the events/signal/slots method the PyQtForSoftimage plugin uses, the plugin is rather simple but complete. s On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Stefan Kubicek s...@tidbit-images.comwrote: Ha, I remember that post! Yet, I believe that the bottom line was that your approach was more robust and faster, hence I simply tried to do the same thing that you do in C++ in Python. Also, I want to use it for a very time critical thing and that timer event gives me the creeps :-) Ultimately I wanted that it could be adapted and changed quickly without having to write c++ code and compile anything, Linux was just an afterthought (we don't use it, but since Alan asked I thought it was one more reason to give it a try). It's cost me a day and I'm not getting anywhere, I don't even know how to debug it, it just crashes hard and Visual Studio won't say a thing even when it's connected to the XSI process. Anyway, thanks for bringing it back up Steven. I will probably take the C++ route and add my own bits and pieces where required. Stefan are you trying to make a pure python version of the plugin? eric hulser at blur had a pure python version working using pyhook but it was filled with various instabilities. http://sourceforge.net/apps/**mediawiki/pyhook/index.php?** title=Main_Pagehttp://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/pyhook/index.php?title=Main_Page also, aloys has posted on the original PyQtForSoftimage thread talking about ways to do it in pure python on linux. For the linux afficionados out there, you can get very simple and pure python implementation of PyQt in Softimage by just implementing a XSI Timer event and running this code, which emulates the Qt event loop: def ALUIHelpers_Events_onTimer_ OnEvent(ctx): app = QtGui.QApplication.instance() if app: app.processEvents() app.sendPostedEvents(None, QtCore.QEvent.DeferredDelete) We found 20ms for the timer to be good enough for most UIs. Lately, with the combination QOpenGL widgets and image players, we bumped up to 5ms and using a C++ implementation. We have been using PyQt inside Softimage/Maya for the last two years and it's been great so far, it's good to see more people jumping on board and sharing code! -steven On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 4:40 AM, Stefan Kubicek s...@tidbit-images.com wrote: Find attached a very basic test version I put together on Tuesday that should just respond to mouse clicks by printing out which mouse button was pressed (replace stevens dll with this one, restart softimage and in the plugin manager right-click on the getQtSoftimageAnchor command of the plugin and choose Invoke... from the popup menu. And...what you get is an instant fast exit to the desktop, and I'm entirely clueless why. I tried a couple of things (inlcuding using WH_MOUSE_LL instead of WH_MOUSE in line 110, which at least doesn't crash but simply does nothing else either). I get the same result using the listenerKeyboard procedure starting at line 93, btw. If ne1 with more indepth knowledge of win32api, ctypes, mouse and keyboard hooks wants to take a closer look please be my guest, it would be cool to get this running and not having to compile anything for each new version of QT, PySide or Softimage, including hope for a working Linux version. Any hints are highly welcome too. Of course, there's also a good chance that this can never work due to architectural restrictions (e.g. the way Python is talking to Softimage), but what do I know. Any ideas? -- --**- Stefan Kubicek Co-founder --**- keyvis digital imagery Wehrgasse 9 - Grüner Hof 1050 Vienna Austria Phone:+43/699/12614231 --- www.keyvis.at ste...@keyvis.at --- -- This email and its attachments are --confidential and for the recipient only--
Re: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1
a global hook on all mouse messages that's going to call the python interpreter, looks like a performance nightmare! What you can do in a windows hook is very limited, certainly sending new messages wouldn't be part of it (you're already in the middle of a message being processed) What you would typically do is update a global variable and Invalidate() a status window, which will refresh itself eventually - and asynchronously. right now it's probably running a hundred thousand likes of code, with python, print (which routes to the log) and other things. that's too much and the crash can come from anywhere. I didn't follow the thread but if this is running in XSI, the hook will affect the whole of XSI. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Stefan Kubicek s...@tidbit-images.com wrote: No I have not yet tried using a timer. I didn't even get to deal with Qt related things, all I wanted for now was a mouse hook that would print out RMB pressed, MMB pressed and LMB pressed respectively upon those events, but it crashes when I call SetWindowsHookEx. See my example code attached to one of my previous mails. It's essentially the exact same thing you are doing in C++. Yet it fails, and my guts feeling is it's not my fault. If that would work, the rest (the Qt-related part) should be relatively straight forward. Famouse last words, I know.
Re: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1
this is one of the reasons why eric at blur skipped using pyhook. he ended up using QWinMigrate, which was a class that allowed MFC apps slowly migrate their app to Qt. he and matt newell exposed QWinMigrate to python the same way PyQt was exposed/wrapped through sip. once that happened the only cpp left was on the softimage side which just exposed getting the window handle to a scripting language. in fact softimage devs could probably have done the same. i am a bit confused as to what stefan needs to change the source for, the idea of sharing the plugin is that 90% of people would not need to change the source and they could get all the functionality of Qt through python and thats a lot of power already! @stefan, what are you trying to change and why? is it an improvement or just a preference? s On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.comwrote: I didn't follow the thread but if this is running in XSI, the hook will affect the whole of XSI.
RE: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1
I’m afraid, meshpaint is 2013.x exclusive… From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Williams, Wayne Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 2:58 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1 Using Softimage 2012 SP1 64 on Win 7 64 bit here. I came across a couple of really handy xsiaddons but cannot seem to get them going. The first was Tim Crowson’s multi-importer tool here: http://dynamiclens.com/wordpress/?page_id=750 The next was meshpaint by Piotrek Marczak here: http://vimeo.com/47094105 I have tried to install them via drag and drop to the interface but they don’t show up in the menu. I uninstalled, rebooted Soft and then tried FileAddonInstall and pointed to the file that way, installing to the User Addons directory. I see them installed in there but they still don’t show in the menus back in Softimage. Uninstalled them and tried to install via Plugin Manager by right clicking the User Root and installing xsiaddon that way. Same deal. See them there in : C:\Users\Wayne Williams\Autodesk\Softimage_2012_SP1\Addons but still won’t show up in the interface. Anyone have any idea what I might be doing wrong here?? Wayne Williams Venerable Geneticist, Human Coercion Senior Character Artist wayne.willi...@xaviant.com Xaviant Cell 770.722.0778 http://www.xaviant.com Where all will be made clear
RE: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1
Ok, can check that off the list! Tim spent a good bit of time yesterday trying to help me get this going (thanks again Tim!) but to no avail. Were there any changes to how xsiaddons install between Softimage 2012, 2012sp1, 2012 SAP (sorry, I forget all the different flavors of point releases for 2012)?? From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Szabolcs Matefy Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 9:04 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1 I’m afraid, meshpaint is 2013.x exclusive… From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Williams, Wayne Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 2:58 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1 Using Softimage 2012 SP1 64 on Win 7 64 bit here. I came across a couple of really handy xsiaddons but cannot seem to get them going. The first was Tim Crowson’s multi-importer tool here: http://dynamiclens.com/wordpress/?page_id=750 The next was meshpaint by Piotrek Marczak here: http://vimeo.com/47094105 I have tried to install them via drag and drop to the interface but they don’t show up in the menu. I uninstalled, rebooted Soft and then tried FileAddonInstall and pointed to the file that way, installing to the User Addons directory. I see them installed in there but they still don’t show in the menus back in Softimage. Uninstalled them and tried to install via Plugin Manager by right clicking the User Root and installing xsiaddon that way. Same deal. See them there in : C:\Users\Wayne Williams\Autodesk\Softimage_2012_SP1\Addons but still won’t show up in the interface. Anyone have any idea what I might be doing wrong here?? Wayne Williams Venerable Geneticist, Human Coercion Senior Character Artist wayne.willi...@xaviant.commailto:wayne.willi...@xaviant.com Xaviant Cell 770.722.0778 http://www.xaviant.com Where all will be made clear
Re: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1
Yeah I'd like figure this out. Sorry I couldn't be of more help yesterday, Wayne. Also, we're running Piotrek's MeshPaint tool in 2012 SAP. There are some bugs, but I'm not sure if those are due to being run in 2012 SAP. Seriously, does no one else get confused by all these versions? You're hurtin' my brain, Autodesk! *Tim Crowson */Lead CG Artist/ *Magnetic Dreams Animation Studio, Inc. *2525 Lebanon Pike, Building C. Nashville, TN 37214 *Ph* 615.885.6801 | *Fax* 615.889.4768 | www.magneticdreams.com tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com On 10/5/2012 8:11 AM, Williams, Wayne wrote: Ok, can check that off the list! Tim spent a good bit of time yesterday trying to help me get this going (thanks again Tim!) but to no avail. Were there any changes to how xsiaddons install between Softimage 2012, 2012sp1, 2012 SAP (sorry, I forget all the different flavors of point releases for 2012)?? *From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Szabolcs Matefy *Sent:* Friday, October 05, 2012 9:04 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* RE: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1 I’m afraid, meshpaint is 2013.x exclusive… *From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Williams, Wayne *Sent:* Friday, October 05, 2012 2:58 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1 Using Softimage 2012 SP1 64 on Win 7 64 bit here. I came across a couple of really handy xsiaddons but cannot seem to get them going. The first was Tim Crowson’s multi-importer tool here: http://dynamiclens.com/wordpress/?page_id=750 http://dynamiclens.com/wordpress/?page_id=750 The next was meshpaint by Piotrek Marczak here: http://vimeo.com/47094105 I have tried to install them via drag and drop to the interface but they don’t show up in the menu. I uninstalled, rebooted Soft and then tried FileAddonInstall and pointed to the file that way, installing to the User Addons directory. I see them installed in there but they still don’t show in the menus back in Softimage. Uninstalled them and tried to install via Plugin Manager by right clicking the User Root and installing xsiaddon that way. Same deal. See them there in : C:\Users\Wayne Williams\Autodesk\Softimage_2012_SP1\Addons but still won’t show up in the interface. Anyone have any idea what I might be doing wrong here?? *Wayne Williams */Venerable Geneticist, Human Coercion Senior Character Artist /_wayne.willi...@xaviant.com mailto:wayne.willi...@xaviant.com _ *X**aviant **Cell* 770.722.0778 _http://www.xaviant.com _Where all will be made clear -- Signature
Re: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1
None that I'm aware of, but afaik the latest multi-importer (1.14 as of August?) uses pyQt, so you might need pyQT for Softimage installed too. Version 1.1 doesn't, according to the information given on http://rray.de/xsi/ Check out www.rray.de Ok, can check that off the list! Tim spent a good bit of time yesterday trying to help me get this going (thanks again Tim!) but to no avail. Were there any changes to how xsiaddons install between Softimage 2012, 2012sp1, 2012 SAP (sorry, I forget all the different flavors of point releases for 2012)?? From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Szabolcs Matefy Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 9:04 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1 I’m afraid, meshpaint is 2013.x exclusive… From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Williams, Wayne Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 2:58 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1 Using Softimage 2012 SP1 64 on Win 7 64 bit here. I came across a couple of really handy xsiaddons but cannot seem to get them going. The first was Tim Crowson’s multi-importer tool here: http://dynamiclens.com/wordpress/?page_id=750 The next was meshpaint by Piotrek Marczak here: http://vimeo.com/47094105 I have tried to install them via drag and drop to the interface but they don’t show up in the menu. I uninstalled, rebooted Soft and then tried FileAddonInstall and pointed to the file that way, installing to the User Addons directory. I see them installed in there but they still don’t show in the menus back in Softimage. Uninstalled them and tried to install via Plugin Manager by right clicking the User Root and installing xsiaddon that way. Same deal. See them there in : C:\Users\Wayne Williams\Autodesk\Softimage_2012_SP1\Addons but still won’t show up in the interface. Anyone have any idea what I might be doing wrong here?? Wayne Williams Venerable Geneticist, Human Coercion Senior Character Artist wayne.willi...@xaviant.commailto:wayne.willi...@xaviant.com Xaviant Cell 770.722.0778 http://www.xaviant.com Where all will be made clear -- --- Stefan Kubicek Co-founder --- keyvis digital imagery Wehrgasse 9 - Grüner Hof 1050 Vienna Austria Phone:+43/699/12614231 --- www.keyvis.at ste...@keyvis.at --- -- This email and its attachments are --confidential and for the recipient only--
Re: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1
Not that I know of. Does the addon extract itself properly? It did for me on 64-bit 2012 SAP, and it showed up in the Plugin Tree (with an error, because I don't have PyQT installed). Assuming the addon extracts the files, what happens if you simply load the plugin (Plugin Tree Load) ? On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Williams, Wayne wayne.willi...@xaviant.comwrote: Ok, can check that off the list! Tim spent a good bit of time yesterday trying to help me get this going (thanks again Tim!) but to no avail. Were there any changes to how xsiaddons install between Softimage 2012, 2012sp1, 2012 SAP (sorry, I forget all the different flavors of point releases for 2012)?? ** ** *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Szabolcs Matefy *Sent:* Friday, October 05, 2012 9:04 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* RE: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1 ** ** I’m afraid, meshpaint is 2013.x exclusive… ** ** *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Williams, Wayne *Sent:* Friday, October 05, 2012 2:58 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1 ** ** Using Softimage 2012 SP1 64 on Win 7 64 bit here. I came across a couple of really handy xsiaddons but cannot seem to get them going. ** ** The first was Tim Crowson’s multi-importer tool here: http://dynamiclens.com/wordpress/?page_id=750 ** ** The next was meshpaint by Piotrek Marczak here: ** ** http://vimeo.com/47094105 ** ** I have tried to install them via drag and drop to the interface but they don’t show up in the menu. I uninstalled, rebooted Soft and then tried FileAddonInstall and pointed to the file that way, installing to the User Addons directory. I see them installed in there but they still don’t show in the menus back in Softimage. ** ** Uninstalled them and tried to install via Plugin Manager by right clicking the User Root and installing xsiaddon that way. Same deal. See them there in : C:\Users\Wayne Williams\Autodesk\Softimage_2012_SP1\Addons but still won’t show up in the interface. ** ** Anyone have any idea what I might be doing wrong here?? ** ** ** ** *Wayne Williams **Venerable Geneticist, Human Coercion Senior Character Artist **wayne.willi...@xaviant.com * *X**aviant **Cell* 770.722.0778 *http://www.xaviant.com * Where all will be made clear ** **
Re: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1
That's a shame for people on Linux for which there is no public working compile of the PyQtForSoftimage plugin. :/ On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Stefan Kubicek s...@tidbit-images.comwrote: None that I'm aware of, but afaik the latest multi-importer (1.14 as of August?) uses pyQt, so you might need pyQT for Softimage installed too. Version 1.1 doesn't, according to the information given on http://rray.de/xsi/ Check out www.rray.de Ok, can check that off the list! Tim spent a good bit of time yesterday trying to help me get this going (thanks again Tim!) but to no avail. Were there any changes to how xsiaddons install between Softimage 2012, 2012sp1, 2012 SAP (sorry, I forget all the different flavors of point releases for 2012)?? From: softimage-bounces@listproc.**autodesk.comsoftimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com[mailto: softimage-bounces@**listproc.autodesk.comsoftimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Szabolcs Matefy Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 9:04 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.**com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1 I’m afraid, meshpaint is 2013.x exclusive… From: softimage-bounces@listproc.**autodesk.comsoftimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com[mailto: softimage-bounces@**listproc.autodesk.comsoftimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Williams, Wayne Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 2:58 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.**com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1 Using Softimage 2012 SP1 64 on Win 7 64 bit here. I came across a couple of really handy xsiaddons but cannot seem to get them going. The first was Tim Crowson’s multi-importer tool here: http://dynamiclens.com/**wordpress/?page_id=750http://dynamiclens.com/wordpress/?page_id=750 The next was meshpaint by Piotrek Marczak here: http://vimeo.com/47094105 I have tried to install them via drag and drop to the interface but they don’t show up in the menu. I uninstalled, rebooted Soft and then tried FileAddonInstall and pointed to the file that way, installing to the User Addons directory. I see them installed in there but they still don’t show in the menus back in Softimage. Uninstalled them and tried to install via Plugin Manager by right clicking the User Root and installing xsiaddon that way. Same deal. See them there in : C:\Users\Wayne Williams\Autodesk\Softimage_**2012_SP1\Addons but still won’t show up in the interface. Anyone have any idea what I might be doing wrong here?? Wayne Williams Venerable Geneticist, Human Coercion Senior Character Artist wayne.willi...@xaviant.com**mailto:wayne.williams@xaviant.**comwayne.willi...@xaviant.com Xaviant Cell 770.722.0778 http://www.xaviant.com Where all will be made clear -- --**- Stefan Kubicek Co-founder --**- keyvis digital imagery Wehrgasse 9 - Grüner Hof 1050 Vienna Austria Phone:+43/699/12614231 --- www.keyvis.at ste...@keyvis.at --- -- This email and its attachments are --confidential and for the recipient only--
Re: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1
Wayne is speaking about the older PPG version of the multi-importer, not the PyQt version. In 2012 SAP, I don't have any problems, and in 2011 SAP SP1 everything was fine as well. -Tim C. On 10/5/2012 9:32 AM, Stephen Blair wrote: Not that I know of. Does the addon extract itself properly? It did for me on 64-bit 2012 SAP, and it showed up in the Plugin Tree (with an error, because I don't have PyQT installed). Assuming the addon extracts the files, what happens if you simply load the plugin (Plugin Tree Load) ? On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Williams, Wayne wayne.willi...@xaviant.com mailto:wayne.willi...@xaviant.com wrote: Ok, can check that off the list! Tim spent a good bit of time yesterday trying to help me get this going (thanks again Tim!) but to no avail. Were there any changes to how xsiaddons install between Softimage 2012, 2012sp1, 2012 SAP (sorry, I forget all the different flavors of point releases for 2012)?? *From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Szabolcs Matefy *Sent:* Friday, October 05, 2012 9:04 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* RE: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1 I’m afraid, meshpaint is 2013.x exclusive… *From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Williams, Wayne *Sent:* Friday, October 05, 2012 2:58 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1 Using Softimage 2012 SP1 64 on Win 7 64 bit here. I came across a couple of really handy xsiaddons but cannot seem to get them going. The first was Tim Crowson’s multi-importer tool here: http://dynamiclens.com/wordpress/?page_id=750 http://dynamiclens.com/wordpress/?page_id=750 The next was meshpaint by Piotrek Marczak here: http://vimeo.com/47094105 I have tried to install them via drag and drop to the interface but they don’t show up in the menu. I uninstalled, rebooted Soft and then tried FileAddonInstall and pointed to the file that way, installing to the User Addons directory. I see them installed in there but they still don’t show in the menus back in Softimage. Uninstalled them and tried to install via Plugin Manager by right clicking the User Root and installing xsiaddon that way. Same deal. See them there in : C:\Users\Wayne Williams\Autodesk\Softimage_2012_SP1\Addons but still won’t show up in the interface. Anyone have any idea what I might be doing wrong here?? *Wayne Williams */Venerable Geneticist, Human Coercion Senior Character Artist /_wayne.willi...@xaviant.com mailto:wayne.willi...@xaviant.com _ *X**aviant **Cell*770.722.0778 tel:770.722.0778 _http://www.xaviant.com _Where all will be made clear -- Signature
Re: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1
its = 2012 compatible, you may need to install vc 2010 redistrib. http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=14632 From: Szabolcs Matefy Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 3:03 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1 I’m afraid, meshpaint is 2013.x exclusive… From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Williams, Wayne Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 2:58 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1 Using Softimage 2012 SP1 64 on Win 7 64 bit here. I came across a couple of really handy xsiaddons but cannot seem to get them going. The first was Tim Crowson’s multi-importer tool here: http://dynamiclens.com/wordpress/?page_id=750 The next was meshpaint by Piotrek Marczak here: http://vimeo.com/47094105 I have tried to install them via drag and drop to the interface but they don’t show up in the menu. I uninstalled, rebooted Soft and then tried FileAddonInstall and pointed to the file that way, installing to the User Addons directory. I see them installed in there but they still don’t show in the menus back in Softimage. Uninstalled them and tried to install via Plugin Manager by right clicking the User Root and installing xsiaddon that way. Same deal. See them there in : C:\Users\Wayne Williams\Autodesk\Softimage_2012_SP1\Addons but still won’t show up in the interface. Anyone have any idea what I might be doing wrong here?? Wayne Williams Venerable Geneticist, Human Coercion Senior Character Artist wayne.willi...@xaviant.com Xaviant Cell 770.722.0778 http://www.xaviant.com Where all will be made clear
Re: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1
Alan, do you know how Python talks to Softimage on Linux? Afaik on Windows it's based on COM and the PyWin32 extensions, but on Linux? I understand Softimage is run under MainWin, but does that include Python and PyWin32? If so, there might be a way. I'm currently looking into running Qt-based stuff in XSI using Python only (no C++), but it will definitely need the pyWin32 extensions for the mouse hooks. That's a shame for people on Linux for which there is no public working compile of the PyQtForSoftimage plugin. :/ On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Stefan Kubicek s...@tidbit-images.comwrote: None that I'm aware of, but afaik the latest multi-importer (1.14 as of August?) uses pyQt, so you might need pyQT for Softimage installed too. Version 1.1 doesn't, according to the information given on http://rray.de/xsi/ Check out www.rray.de Ok, can check that off the list! Tim spent a good bit of time yesterday trying to help me get this going (thanks again Tim!) but to no avail. Were there any changes to how xsiaddons install between Softimage 2012, 2012sp1, 2012 SAP (sorry, I forget all the different flavors of point releases for 2012)?? From: softimage-bounces@listproc.**autodesk.comsoftimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com[mailto: softimage-bounces@**listproc.autodesk.comsoftimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Szabolcs Matefy Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 9:04 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.**com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1 I’m afraid, meshpaint is 2013.x exclusive… From: softimage-bounces@listproc.**autodesk.comsoftimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com[mailto: softimage-bounces@**listproc.autodesk.comsoftimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Williams, Wayne Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 2:58 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.**com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1 Using Softimage 2012 SP1 64 on Win 7 64 bit here. I came across a couple of really handy xsiaddons but cannot seem to get them going. The first was Tim Crowson’s multi-importer tool here: http://dynamiclens.com/**wordpress/?page_id=750http://dynamiclens.com/wordpress/?page_id=750 The next was meshpaint by Piotrek Marczak here: http://vimeo.com/47094105 I have tried to install them via drag and drop to the interface but they don’t show up in the menu. I uninstalled, rebooted Soft and then tried FileAddonInstall and pointed to the file that way, installing to the User Addons directory. I see them installed in there but they still don’t show in the menus back in Softimage. Uninstalled them and tried to install via Plugin Manager by right clicking the User Root and installing xsiaddon that way. Same deal. See them there in : C:\Users\Wayne Williams\Autodesk\Softimage_**2012_SP1\Addons but still won’t show up in the interface. Anyone have any idea what I might be doing wrong here?? Wayne Williams Venerable Geneticist, Human Coercion Senior Character Artist wayne.willi...@xaviant.com**mailto:wayne.williams@xaviant.**comwayne.willi...@xaviant.com Xaviant Cell 770.722.0778 http://www.xaviant.com Where all will be made clear -- --**- Stefan Kubicek Co-founder --**- keyvis digital imagery Wehrgasse 9 - Grüner Hof 1050 Vienna Austria Phone:+43/699/12614231 --- www.keyvis.at ste...@keyvis.at --- -- This email and its attachments are --confidential and for the recipient only-- -- --- Stefan Kubicek Co-founder --- keyvis digital imagery Wehrgasse 9 - Grüner Hof 1050 Vienna Austria Phone:+43/699/12614231 --- www.keyvis.at ste...@keyvis.at --- -- This email and its attachments are --confidential and for the recipient only--
Re: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1
Ok. I guess I'd still ask the same two questions: - does the addon extract itself property (let's say you drag and drop the addon file, does it get extracted in your User folder - what happens if you try to load the .py file with Plugin Tree Load? also, what is logged in the script history? and maybe ... what does Process Monitor show if you capture the events generated by install the xsiaddon file? caio On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com wrote: Wayne is speaking about the older PPG version of the multi-importer, not the PyQt version. In 2012 SAP, I don't have any problems, and in 2011 SAP SP1 everything was fine as well. -Tim C. On 10/5/2012 9:32 AM, Stephen Blair wrote: Not that I know of. Does the addon extract itself properly? It did for me on 64-bit 2012 SAP, and it showed up in the Plugin Tree (with an error, because I don't have PyQT installed). Assuming the addon extracts the files, what happens if you simply load the plugin (Plugin Tree Load) ? On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Williams, Wayne wayne.willi...@xaviant.com wrote: Ok, can check that off the list! Tim spent a good bit of time yesterday trying to help me get this going (thanks again Tim!) but to no avail. Were there any changes to how xsiaddons install between Softimage 2012, 2012sp1, 2012 SAP (sorry, I forget all the different flavors of point releases for 2012)?? *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Szabolcs Matefy *Sent:* Friday, October 05, 2012 9:04 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* RE: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1 I’m afraid, meshpaint is 2013.x exclusive… *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Williams, Wayne *Sent:* Friday, October 05, 2012 2:58 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1 Using Softimage 2012 SP1 64 on Win 7 64 bit here. I came across a couple of really handy xsiaddons but cannot seem to get them going. The first was Tim Crowson’s multi-importer tool here: http://dynamiclens.com/wordpress/?page_id=750 The next was meshpaint by Piotrek Marczak here: http://vimeo.com/47094105 I have tried to install them via drag and drop to the interface but they don’t show up in the menu. I uninstalled, rebooted Soft and then tried FileAddonInstall and pointed to the file that way, installing to the User Addons directory. I see them installed in there but they still don’t show in the menus back in Softimage. Uninstalled them and tried to install via Plugin Manager by right clicking the User Root and installing xsiaddon that way. Same deal. See them there in : C:\Users\Wayne Williams\Autodesk\Softimage_2012_SP1\Addons but still won’t show up in the interface. Anyone have any idea what I might be doing wrong here?? *Wayne Williams **Venerable Geneticist, Human Coercion Senior Character Artist **wayne.willi...@xaviant.com * *X**aviant **Cell* 770.722.0778 *http://www.xaviant.com * Where all will be made clear --
RE: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1
It does appear in the User Folder upon installing. When I try to load the .py file from the Plugin TreeLoad nothing shows up in the FileImport menu (this is for the ppg version of Tim's multi importer.) I will go ahead and install the python stuffs to see if I can get it going that way and will report back! Thanks for all your help guys. -Wayne From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Blair Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 11:00 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1 Ok. I guess I'd still ask the same two questions: - does the addon extract itself property (let's say you drag and drop the addon file, does it get extracted in your User folder - what happens if you try to load the .py file with Plugin Tree Load? also, what is logged in the script history? and maybe ... what does Process Monitor show if you capture the events generated by install the xsiaddon file? caio On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.commailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com wrote: Wayne is speaking about the older PPG version of the multi-importer, not the PyQt version. In 2012 SAP, I don't have any problems, and in 2011 SAP SP1 everything was fine as well. -Tim C. On 10/5/2012 9:32 AM, Stephen Blair wrote: Not that I know of. Does the addon extract itself properly? It did for me on 64-bit 2012 SAP, and it showed up in the Plugin Tree (with an error, because I don't have PyQT installed). Assuming the addon extracts the files, what happens if you simply load the plugin (Plugin Tree Load) ? On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Williams, Wayne wayne.willi...@xaviant.commailto:wayne.willi...@xaviant.com wrote: Ok, can check that off the list! Tim spent a good bit of time yesterday trying to help me get this going (thanks again Tim!) but to no avail. Were there any changes to how xsiaddons install between Softimage 2012, 2012sp1, 2012 SAP (sorry, I forget all the different flavors of point releases for 2012)?? From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Szabolcs Matefy Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 9:04 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1 I'm afraid, meshpaint is 2013.x exclusive... From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Williams, Wayne Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 2:58 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1 Using Softimage 2012 SP1 64 on Win 7 64 bit here. I came across a couple of really handy xsiaddons but cannot seem to get them going. The first was Tim Crowson's multi-importer tool here: http://dynamiclens.com/wordpress/?page_id=750 The next was meshpaint by Piotrek Marczak here: http://vimeo.com/47094105 I have tried to install them via drag and drop to the interface but they don't show up in the menu. I uninstalled, rebooted Soft and then tried FileAddonInstall and pointed to the file that way, installing to the User Addons directory. I see them installed in there but they still don't show in the menus back in Softimage. Uninstalled them and tried to install via Plugin Manager by right clicking the User Root and installing xsiaddon that way. Same deal. See them there in : C:\Users\Wayne Williams\Autodesk\Softimage_2012_SP1\Addons but still won't show up in the interface. Anyone have any idea what I might be doing wrong here?? Wayne Williams Venerable Geneticist, Human Coercion Senior Character Artist wayne.willi...@xaviant.commailto:wayne.willi...@xaviant.com Xaviant Cell 770.722.0778tel:770.722.0778 http://www.xaviant.com Where all will be made clear --
Re: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1
Yes, pywin32 is present. Not sure how to approach the problem though. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Stefan Kubicek s...@tidbit-images.comwrote: Alan, do you know how Python talks to Softimage on Linux? Afaik on Windows it's based on COM and the PyWin32 extensions, but on Linux? I understand Softimage is run under MainWin, but does that include Python and PyWin32? If so, there might be a way. I'm currently looking into running Qt-based stuff in XSI using Python only (no C++), but it will definitely need the pyWin32 extensions for the mouse hooks. That's a shame for people on Linux for which there is no public working compile of the PyQtForSoftimage plugin. :/ On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Stefan Kubicek s...@tidbit-images.com wrote: None that I'm aware of, but afaik the latest multi-importer (1.14 as of August?) uses pyQt, so you might need pyQT for Softimage installed too. Version 1.1 doesn't, according to the information given on http://rray.de/xsi/ Check out www.rray.de Ok, can check that off the list! Tim spent a good bit of time yesterday trying to help me get this going (thanks again Tim!) but to no avail. Were there any changes to how xsiaddons install between Softimage 2012, 2012sp1, 2012 SAP (sorry, I forget all the different flavors of point releases for 2012)?? From: softimage-bounces@listproc.**a**utodesk.com http://autodesk.com softimage-bounces@**listproc.autodesk.comsoftimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-bounces@**listproc.**autodesk.comhttp://listproc.autodesk.com softimage-**boun...@listproc.autodesk.comsoftimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com **] On Behalf Of Szabolcs Matefy Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 9:04 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.** com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1 I’m afraid, meshpaint is 2013.x exclusive… From: softimage-bounces@listproc.**a**utodesk.com http://autodesk.com softimage-bounces@**listproc.autodesk.comsoftimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-bounces@**listproc.**autodesk.comhttp://listproc.autodesk.com softimage-**boun...@listproc.autodesk.comsoftimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com **] On Behalf Of Williams, Wayne Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 2:58 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.** com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1 Using Softimage 2012 SP1 64 on Win 7 64 bit here. I came across a couple of really handy xsiaddons but cannot seem to get them going. The first was Tim Crowson’s multi-importer tool here: http://dynamiclens.com/wordpress/?page_id=750http://dynamiclens.com/**wordpress/?page_id=750 http://**dynamiclens.com/wordpress/?**page_id=750http://dynamiclens.com/wordpress/?page_id=750 The next was meshpaint by Piotrek Marczak here: http://vimeo.com/47094105 I have tried to install them via drag and drop to the interface but they don’t show up in the menu. I uninstalled, rebooted Soft and then tried FileAddonInstall and pointed to the file that way, installing to the User Addons directory. I see them installed in there but they still don’t show in the menus back in Softimage. Uninstalled them and tried to install via Plugin Manager by right clicking the User Root and installing xsiaddon that way. Same deal. See them there in : C:\Users\Wayne Williams\Autodesk\Softimage_ 2012_SP1\Addons but still won’t show up in the interface. Anyone have any idea what I might be doing wrong here?? Wayne Williams Venerable Geneticist, Human Coercion Senior Character Artist wayne.willi...@xaviant.commailto:wayne.williams@xaviant.com wayne.williams@xaviant.**com wayne.willi...@xaviant.com Xaviant Cell 770.722.0778 http://www.xaviant.com Where all will be made clear -- --- Stefan Kubicek Co-founder --- keyvis digital imagery Wehrgasse 9 - Grüner Hof 1050 Vienna Austria Phone:+43/699/12614231 --- www.keyvis.at ste...@keyvis.at --- -- This email and its attachments are --confidential and for the recipient only-- -- --**- Stefan Kubicek Co-founder --**- keyvis digital imagery Wehrgasse 9 - Grüner Hof 1050 Vienna Austria Phone:+43/699/12614231 --- www.keyvis.at ste...@keyvis.at --- -- This email and its attachments are --confidential and for the recipient only--
Re: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1
For the PPG version, if you go into Plugin Manager Items, and set the Filter to User Addons (or wherever you installed the addon), does the Multi_Importer_Menu item show up?) As a test, try changing the RegisterMenu call to put the item in the siMenuMainHelpID menu, and see if that shows up? Did you try temporarily renaming your User folder, to make sure it's not some weird conflict with something else? On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Williams, Wayne wayne.willi...@xaviant.com wrote: It does appear in the User Folder upon installing. When I try to load the .py file from the Plugin TreeLoad nothing shows up in the FileImport menu (this is for the ppg version of Tim’s multi importer.) I will go ahead and install the python stuffs to see if I can get it going that way and will report back! Thanks for all your help guys. -Wayne ** ** *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Blair *Sent:* Friday, October 05, 2012 11:00 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1 ** ** Ok. I guess I'd still ask the same two questions: - does the addon extract itself property (let's say you drag and drop the addon file, does it get extracted in your User folder - what happens if you try to load the .py file with Plugin Tree Load? also, what is logged in the script history? and maybe ... what does Process Monitor show if you capture the events generated by install the xsiaddon file? caio On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com wrote: Wayne is speaking about the older PPG version of the multi-importer, not the PyQt version. In 2012 SAP, I don't have any problems, and in 2011 SAP SP1 everything was fine as well. -Tim C. On 10/5/2012 9:32 AM, Stephen Blair wrote: Not that I know of. Does the addon extract itself properly? It did for me on 64-bit 2012 SAP, and it showed up in the Plugin Tree (with an error, because I don't have PyQT installed). Assuming the addon extracts the files, what happens if you simply load the plugin (Plugin Tree Load) ? On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Williams, Wayne wayne.willi...@xaviant.com wrote: Ok, can check that off the list! Tim spent a good bit of time yesterday trying to help me get this going (thanks again Tim!) but to no avail. Were there any changes to how xsiaddons install between Softimage 2012, 2012sp1, 2012 SAP (sorry, I forget all the different flavors of point releases for 2012)?? *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Szabolcs Matefy *Sent:* Friday, October 05, 2012 9:04 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* RE: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1 I’m afraid, meshpaint is 2013.x exclusive… *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Williams, Wayne *Sent:* Friday, October 05, 2012 2:58 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1 Using Softimage 2012 SP1 64 on Win 7 64 bit here. I came across a couple of really handy xsiaddons but cannot seem to get them going. The first was Tim Crowson’s multi-importer tool here: http://dynamiclens.com/wordpress/?page_id=750 The next was meshpaint by Piotrek Marczak here: http://vimeo.com/47094105 I have tried to install them via drag and drop to the interface but they don’t show up in the menu. I uninstalled, rebooted Soft and then tried FileAddonInstall and pointed to the file that way, installing to the User Addons directory. I see them installed in there but they still don’t show in the menus back in Softimage. Uninstalled them and tried to install via Plugin Manager by right clicking the User Root and installing xsiaddon that way. Same deal. See them there in : C:\Users\Wayne Williams\Autodesk\Softimage_2012_SP1\Addons but still won’t show up in the interface. Anyone have any idea what I might be doing wrong here?? *Wayne Williams **Venerable Geneticist, Human Coercion Senior Character Artist **wayne.willi...@xaviant.com * *X**aviant **Cell* 770.722.0778 *http://www.xaviant.com * Where all will be made clear ** ** ** ** -- ** **
Re: Installing AddOns Softimage 2012 SP1
It's possible to have it working in linux, but it's a different approach (that's I'm not too much aware of). I *think* using the CDH is mandatory, or at least need a custom pyqt integration to work. It's still not perfect and has its problems.
