Re: meta-tag page - part II

2013-10-07 Thread Wolfgang Denk
Dear Gary, In message 001f01cec2e5$9f1d9b20$dd58d160$@com you wrote: The AND situation would occur if you have a file which contains code from two or more different sources using two or more different licenses. In that case, I believe you would need to satisfy the obligations of all

Re: meta-tag page

2013-10-07 Thread Philip Odence
Wolfgang, I liked Bradley's suggestion for syntax of the one-liner because it was also short, but slightly more explicit about the intention. I agree that an explanation in a readme could make this clear, but I think we are trying to handle the case when the file might turn up in another project

Re: meta-tag page - part II

2013-10-07 Thread D M German
...@lists.spdx.org] On Behalf Of D M German Mark Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 7:50 PM Mark To: Wheeler, David A Mark Cc: spdx-tech@lists.spdx.org; SPDX-biz; SPDX-legal Mark Subject: Re: meta-tag page Wheeler, David A twisted the bytes to say: David From a programmer's perspective I think

Re: meta-tag page - part II

2013-10-07 Thread Wolfgang Denk
Dear Daniel, In message 87ob71qey8@mn.cs.uvic.ca you wrote: Wolfgang Also, in the interest of easy processing of the license tags, I wouls Wolfgang like to propse that multiple licenses in a list are separated by white Wolfgang space only - no OR, no commas, nor any other

Re: meta-tag page - part II

2013-10-07 Thread Wolfgang Denk
Dear Gary, In message 002f01cec378$2f2a3470$8d7e9d50$@com you wrote: If there is no conflict in license terms, however, I do not see an issue in using this approach. I run across a large volume of MIT style and BSD style licenses mixed in with GPL code, for example. Using AND'd licenses is

RE: meta-tag page

2013-10-07 Thread Wheeler, David A
I said: David From a programmer's perspective I think the cryptic approach is FAR superior. There are lots of tools that can quickly examine files and return text with the pattern SPDX-License-Identifier: , and other tools that can trivially process the stuff after it. The above alternative

RE: meta-tag page - part II

2013-10-07 Thread Wheeler, David A
Wolfgang Denk [mailto:w...@denx.de]: But this example doesn't work either. If you mix a license that allows modify and keep the modified code closed with GPL, the only legally possible result is GPLed code. I see little value in constructing such more or less artificial examples. This is

Re: meta-tag page

2013-10-07 Thread Wolfgang Denk
Dear Daniel, In message CAEBXXD80CzGeL9HZkx3pQTZXF7OiFkF9+Z5_jOqabR=zls6...@mail.gmail.com you wrote: Correct me if I am wrong, but u-boot is not licensed under the GPLv2+, but under the GPLv2+ with a special exception: Actually if you look at U-Boot as a whole, it is GPL-2.0 only. There

Re: meta-tag page - part II

2013-10-07 Thread Wolfgang Denk
Dear David, In message 9f8e44bc27e22046b84ec1b9364c66a1a8054ab...@exch07-4850.ida.org you wrote: Note this comment: # Except as otherwise marked, this code is licensed under the MIT license. # However, the override code that patches clisp is derived # from clisp, which is GPLv2. # Thus

RE: meta-tag page - part II

2013-10-07 Thread Wheeler, David A
Wolfgang Denk [mailto:w...@denx.de] But there there is no actual choice. Yes, you take the parts of the project that do not include the GPL code - and you can use this code under the MIT license for other purposes. But as soon as we talk about the thing as a whole (say, the linked

Re: meta-tag page

2013-10-07 Thread dmg
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Wolfgang Denk w...@denx.de wrote: Note also that the license is not exactly spdx-BSD3 (it will not match the guideliness of SPDX because of the extra clause). So in a way, the SPDX license in this file is incorrect. I don't see what you mean here. If we

Re: meta-tag page

2013-10-06 Thread Wolfgang Denk
Dear Scott, On Oct 3, 2013, at 12:33 PM, Lamons, Scott (Open Source Program Office) scott.lam...@hp.commailto:scott.lam...@hp.com wrote: Thanks for updating this page. In particular for adding the rationale for why tagging is important in the Introduction section. For me, the main impetus of

Re: meta-tag page

2013-10-06 Thread Wolfgang Denk
Dear David, In message 9f8e44bc27e22046b84ec1b9364c66a1a8054aa...@exch07-4850.ida.org you wrote: If there can be agreement on a very short license meta-tag - and I have a strong preference for a version that lets me do it in 1-line- then I'll start using it. I suspect others would do so too.

RE: meta-tag page

2013-10-04 Thread Gisi, Mark
-boun...@lists.spdx.org [mailto:spdx-legal-boun...@lists.spdx.org] On Behalf Of Philip Odence Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 6:08 AM To: d...@uvic.ca; Wheeler, David A Cc: spdx-tech@lists.spdx.org; SPDX-biz; SPDX-legal Subject: Re: meta-tag page LICENSE ID I think I'm on the same page as Daniel. From

meta-tag page

2013-10-03 Thread Jilayne Lovejoy
I just updated the meta-tag proposal page on the Wiki in the introduction section. We had discussed on the general meeting this morning, that this was needed. Have a look and see what you think. http://wiki.spdx.org/view/Technical_Team/SPDX_Meta_Tags Jilayne Lovejoy SPDX Legal Team lead

RE: meta-tag page

2013-10-03 Thread Lamons, Scott (Open Source Program Office)
-legal; SPDX-biz; spdx-tech@lists.spdx.org Subject: meta-tag page I just updated the meta-tag proposal page on the Wiki in the introduction section. We had discussed on the general meeting this morning, that this was needed. Have a look and see what you think. http://wiki.spdx.org/view

Re: meta-tag page

2013-10-03 Thread dmg
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Lamons, Scott (Open Source Program Office) scott.lam...@hp.com wrote: Thanks for updating this page. In particular for adding the rationale for why tagging is important in the Introduction section. For me, the main impetus of adding the license tag is to

RE: meta-tag page

2013-10-03 Thread Wheeler, David A
Dmg: Following this rational, would it be possible to recommend something in the line of: BEGIN_LICENSE This file is licensed under the SPDX_LICENSE_IDENTIFIER For more information see URL-TO-SPDX-WEB-SITE-WITH-iNFO END_LICENSE that makes three things explicit: * It says where the

Re: meta-tag page

2013-10-03 Thread Jilayne Lovejoy
[mailto:spdx-biz-boun...@lists.spdx.org] On Behalf Of Jilayne Lovejoy Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 11:09 AM To: SPDX-legal; SPDX-biz; spdx-tech@lists.spdx.org Subject: meta-tag page I just updated the meta-tag proposal page on the Wiki in the introduction section. We had discussed

RE: meta-tag page

2013-10-03 Thread Manbeck, Jack
...@lists.spdx.org] On Behalf Of Jilayne Lovejoy Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 3:26 PM To: Lamons, Scott (Open Source Program Office) Cc: spdx-tech@lists.spdx.org; SPDX-biz; SPDX-legal Subject: Re: meta-tag page good thoughts, Scott! Perhaps we don't need to prioritized the rationales

RE: meta-tag page

2013-10-03 Thread Lamons, Scott (Open Source Program Office)
:14 PM To: Jilayne Lovejoy; Lamons, Scott (Open Source Program Office) Cc: spdx-tech@lists.spdx.org; SPDX-biz; SPDX-legal Subject: RE: meta-tag page Coming back to a higher level... What is the purpose of this page? We need to be very clear on this. In my mind it is to propose a best practice

RE: meta-tag page

2013-10-03 Thread Wheeler, David A
If there can be agreement on a very short license meta-tag - and I have a strong preference for a version that lets me do it in 1-line- then I'll start using it. I suspect others would do so too. After all, it's easy to add this kind of line to a source code file: SPDX-License-Identifier: