Re: What is the status of AX 2.0 WG proposal?

[Allen Tom]

The in person chat was very productive, and I expect to move forward 
with this proposal after the holidays.


Allen

Dick Hardt wrote:

I've been busy with other things. :-)

I had an in person chat with Allen Tom, Eran and Breno about what they 
were thinking of. There was some discussion on the step2 list.


I have a work item to write up the scope so that we can get it started 
-- but have needed to deal with some time critical tasks before I 
could start on it -- sorry.


-- Dick

On 17-Dec-08, at 4:56 PM, Nat Sakimura wrote:


I am very interested in it, but have not heard about it for sometime.

What is the status right now?

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Re: What is the status of AX 2.0 WG proposal?

[Breno de Medeiros]

That is essentially the new form that the proposal is going to take.

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Nat Sakimura  wrote:
> Added implication is that, by defining "sreg" class, we can effectively roll
> sreg into AX.
>
> =nat
>
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Nat Sakimura  wrote:
>>
>> P.S. I and Hide Nara was talking the other day that it probably would be
>> very useful for the AX to be able to define a "class" of attributes to
>> define a set of attributes.
>>
>> For example, "Creadit Card" class includes following paramters:
>> 1. FullName
>> 2. Card Number
>> 3. Expire Day
>> 4. Secure digits
>>
>> AX parameters like this:
>> openid.ns.ax = http://openid.net/srv/ax/2.0
>> openid.ax.class.card = http://visa.com/netcard/1.0
>> openid.ax.class.card.fullname="Bill Gate"
>> openid.ax.class.card.cardnumber = "4312 4324 5353 "
>> openid.ax.class.card.expire = "04/10"
>> openid.ax.class.card.secure="343"
>>
>> Without class paremeter:
>> openid.ns.ax = http://openid.net/srv/ax/2.0
>> opneid.ax.type.fullname= http://visa.com/netcard/1.0/fullname
>> opneid.ax.type.cardnumber = http://visa.com/netcard/1.0/cardnumber
>> opneid.ax.type.expire = http://visa.com/netcard/1.0/expire
>> opneid.ax.type.code= http://visa.com/netcard/1.0/secure
>> openid.ax.value.fullname="Bill Gate"
>> openid.ax.value.cardnumber = "4312 4324 5353 "
>> openid.ax.value.expire = "04/10"
>> openid.ax.value.secure="343"
>>
>> With "class", the message will be shorter, and also will become easier to
>> extract a portion of the attributes in a semantically meaningful collection.
>> We can even go on and sign over only one class etc.
>>
>> Could we add something like this to the scope as well?
>>
>> =nat
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Nat Sakimura  wrote:
>>>
>>> I am looking foward to it!
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Dick Hardt 
>>> wrote:

 Breno, if you have time to update the proposal per our discussion that
 would be fabulous!

 On 17-Dec-08, at 5:07 PM, Breno de Medeiros wrote:

> We have made significant process in that in-person chat and we need to
> document this in proposal draft form.
>
> I could try and update the proposal for "validate request" which has
> tentatively been abandoned in terms of allowing meta-data to describe
> attributes in fetch/store requests.
>
> 2008/12/17 Dick Hardt :
>>
>> I've been busy with other things. :-)
>> I had an in person chat with Allen Tom, Eran and Breno about what they
>> were
>> thinking of. There was some discussion on the step2 list.
>> I have a work item to write up the scope so that we can get it started
>> --
>> but have needed to deal with some time critical tasks before I could
>> start
>> on it -- sorry.
>> -- Dick
>> On 17-Dec-08, at 4:56 PM, Nat Sakimura wrote:
>>
>> I am very interested in it, but have not heard about it for sometime.
>>
>> What is the status right now?
>>
>> --
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>> http://www.sakimura.org/en/
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> http://www.sakimura.org/en/
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>
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Re: What is the status of AX 2.0 WG proposal?

[Nat Sakimura]

Added implication is that, by defining "sreg" class, we can effectively roll
sreg into AX.

=nat

On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Nat Sakimura  wrote:

> P.S. I and Hide Nara was talking the other day that it probably would be
> very useful for the AX to be able to define a "class" of attributes to
> define a set of attributes.
>
> For example, "Creadit Card" class includes following paramters:
> 1. FullName
> 2. Card Number
> 3. Expire Day
> 4. Secure digits
>
> AX parameters like this:
> openid.ns.ax = http://openid.net/srv/ax/2.0
> openid.ax.class.card = http://visa.com/netcard/1.0
> openid.ax.class.card.fullname="Bill Gate"
> openid.ax.class.card.cardnumber = "4312 4324 5353 "
> openid.ax.class.card.expire = "04/10"
> openid.ax.class.card.secure="343"
>
> Without class paremeter:
> openid.ns.ax = http://openid.net/srv/ax/2.0
> opneid.ax.type.fullname= http://visa.com/netcard/1.0/fullname
> opneid.ax.type.cardnumber = http://visa.com/netcard/1.0/cardnumber
> opneid.ax.type.expire = http://visa.com/netcard/1.0/expire
> opneid.ax.type.code= http://visa.com/netcard/1.0/secure
> openid.ax.value.fullname="Bill Gate"
> openid.ax.value.cardnumber = "4312 4324 5353 "
> openid.ax.value.expire = "04/10"
> openid.ax.value.secure="343"
>
> With "class", the message will be shorter, and also will become easier to
> extract a portion of the attributes in a semantically meaningful collection.
> We can even go on and sign over only one class etc.
>
> Could we add something like this to the scope as well?
>
> =nat
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Nat Sakimura  wrote:
>
>> I am looking foward to it!
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Dick Hardt wrote:
>>
>>> Breno, if you have time to update the proposal per our discussion that
>>> would be fabulous!
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17-Dec-08, at 5:07 PM, Breno de Medeiros wrote:
>>>
>>>  We have made significant process in that in-person chat and we need to
 document this in proposal draft form.

 I could try and update the proposal for "validate request" which has
 tentatively been abandoned in terms of allowing meta-data to describe
 attributes in fetch/store requests.

 2008/12/17 Dick Hardt :

> I've been busy with other things. :-)
> I had an in person chat with Allen Tom, Eran and Breno about what they
> were
> thinking of. There was some discussion on the step2 list.
> I have a work item to write up the scope so that we can get it started
> --
> but have needed to deal with some time critical tasks before I could
> start
> on it -- sorry.
> -- Dick
> On 17-Dec-08, at 4:56 PM, Nat Sakimura wrote:
>
> I am very interested in it, but have not heard about it for sometime.
>
> What is the status right now?
>
> --
> Nat Sakimura (=nat)
> http://www.sakimura.org/en/
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> http://www.sakimura.org/en/
>>
>
>
>
> --
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Re: What is the status of AX 2.0 WG proposal?

[Nat Sakimura]

P.S. I and Hide Nara was talking the other day that it probably would be
very useful for the AX to be able to define a "class" of attributes to
define a set of attributes.

For example, "Creadit Card" class includes following paramters:
1. FullName
2. Card Number
3. Expire Day
4. Secure digits

AX parameters like this:
openid.ns.ax = http://openid.net/srv/ax/2.0
openid.ax.class.card = http://visa.com/netcard/1.0
openid.ax.class.card.fullname="Bill Gate"
openid.ax.class.card.cardnumber = "4312 4324 5353 "
openid.ax.class.card.expire = "04/10"
openid.ax.class.card.secure="343"

Without class paremeter:
openid.ns.ax = http://openid.net/srv/ax/2.0
opneid.ax.type.fullname= http://visa.com/netcard/1.0/fullname
opneid.ax.type.cardnumber = http://visa.com/netcard/1.0/cardnumber
opneid.ax.type.expire = http://visa.com/netcard/1.0/expire
opneid.ax.type.code= http://visa.com/netcard/1.0/secure
openid.ax.value.fullname="Bill Gate"
openid.ax.value.cardnumber = "4312 4324 5353 "
openid.ax.value.expire = "04/10"
openid.ax.value.secure="343"

With "class", the message will be shorter, and also will become easier to
extract a portion of the attributes in a semantically meaningful collection.
We can even go on and sign over only one class etc.

Could we add something like this to the scope as well?

=nat


On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Nat Sakimura  wrote:

> I am looking foward to it!
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Dick Hardt  wrote:
>
>> Breno, if you have time to update the proposal per our discussion that
>> would be fabulous!
>>
>>
>> On 17-Dec-08, at 5:07 PM, Breno de Medeiros wrote:
>>
>>  We have made significant process in that in-person chat and we need to
>>> document this in proposal draft form.
>>>
>>> I could try and update the proposal for "validate request" which has
>>> tentatively been abandoned in terms of allowing meta-data to describe
>>> attributes in fetch/store requests.
>>>
>>> 2008/12/17 Dick Hardt :
>>>
 I've been busy with other things. :-)
 I had an in person chat with Allen Tom, Eran and Breno about what they
 were
 thinking of. There was some discussion on the step2 list.
 I have a work item to write up the scope so that we can get it started
 --
 but have needed to deal with some time critical tasks before I could
 start
 on it -- sorry.
 -- Dick
 On 17-Dec-08, at 4:56 PM, Nat Sakimura wrote:

 I am very interested in it, but have not heard about it for sometime.

 What is the status right now?

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>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: What is the status of AX 2.0 WG proposal?

[Nat Sakimura]

I am looking foward to it!

On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Dick Hardt  wrote:

> Breno, if you have time to update the proposal per our discussion that
> would be fabulous!
>
>
> On 17-Dec-08, at 5:07 PM, Breno de Medeiros wrote:
>
>  We have made significant process in that in-person chat and we need to
>> document this in proposal draft form.
>>
>> I could try and update the proposal for "validate request" which has
>> tentatively been abandoned in terms of allowing meta-data to describe
>> attributes in fetch/store requests.
>>
>> 2008/12/17 Dick Hardt :
>>
>>> I've been busy with other things. :-)
>>> I had an in person chat with Allen Tom, Eran and Breno about what they
>>> were
>>> thinking of. There was some discussion on the step2 list.
>>> I have a work item to write up the scope so that we can get it started --
>>> but have needed to deal with some time critical tasks before I could
>>> start
>>> on it -- sorry.
>>> -- Dick
>>> On 17-Dec-08, at 4:56 PM, Nat Sakimura wrote:
>>>
>>> I am very interested in it, but have not heard about it for sometime.
>>>
>>> What is the status right now?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Nat Sakimura (=nat)
>>> http://www.sakimura.org/en/
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>>
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>>
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Re: What is the status of AX 2.0 WG proposal?

[Dick Hardt]

Breno, if you have time to update the proposal per our discussion that  
would be fabulous!

On 17-Dec-08, at 5:07 PM, Breno de Medeiros wrote:

> We have made significant process in that in-person chat and we need to
> document this in proposal draft form.
>
> I could try and update the proposal for "validate request" which has
> tentatively been abandoned in terms of allowing meta-data to describe
> attributes in fetch/store requests.
>
> 2008/12/17 Dick Hardt :
>> I've been busy with other things. :-)
>> I had an in person chat with Allen Tom, Eran and Breno about what  
>> they were
>> thinking of. There was some discussion on the step2 list.
>> I have a work item to write up the scope so that we can get it  
>> started --
>> but have needed to deal with some time critical tasks before I  
>> could start
>> on it -- sorry.
>> -- Dick
>> On 17-Dec-08, at 4:56 PM, Nat Sakimura wrote:
>>
>> I am very interested in it, but have not heard about it for sometime.
>>
>> What is the status right now?
>>
>> --
>> Nat Sakimura (=nat)
>> http://www.sakimura.org/en/
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Re: What is the status of AX 2.0 WG proposal?

[Breno de Medeiros]

We have made significant process in that in-person chat and we need to
document this in proposal draft form.

I could try and update the proposal for "validate request" which has
tentatively been abandoned in terms of allowing meta-data to describe
attributes in fetch/store requests.

2008/12/17 Dick Hardt :
> I've been busy with other things. :-)
> I had an in person chat with Allen Tom, Eran and Breno about what they were
> thinking of. There was some discussion on the step2 list.
> I have a work item to write up the scope so that we can get it started --
> but have needed to deal with some time critical tasks before I could start
> on it -- sorry.
> -- Dick
> On 17-Dec-08, at 4:56 PM, Nat Sakimura wrote:
>
> I am very interested in it, but have not heard about it for sometime.
>
> What is the status right now?
>
> --
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> http://www.sakimura.org/en/
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Re: What is the status of AX 2.0 WG proposal?

[Dick Hardt]

I've been busy with other things. :-)

I had an in person chat with Allen Tom, Eran and Breno about what they  
were thinking of. There was some discussion on the step2 list.


I have a work item to write up the scope so that we can get it started  
-- but have needed to deal with some time critical tasks before I  
could start on it -- sorry.


-- Dick

On 17-Dec-08, at 4:56 PM, Nat Sakimura wrote:


I am very interested in it, but have not heard about it for sometime.

What is the status right now?

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What is the status of AX 2.0 WG proposal?

[Nat Sakimura]

I am very interested in it, but have not heard about it for sometime.

What is the status right now?

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