Re: [Idschemas] Moving AX Forward (WAS RE: SREG namespace URI rollback)

2007-04-06 Thread Laurie Rae
Ah, but I ask you this. If a rugby player falls in the forest, does 
anybody care? ;-)

Seriously though, the issue here isn't really whether or not you and 
your friends will go to the rugby game,
it's whether or not the rugby league organizers are trying to get you to 
go to the rugby game at the appropriate venue.

If you go watch a rugby game on an ice rink, chances are you're not 
going to get into rugby.

My point? Beyond the relatively inactive state of the ID Schemas list, 
and the apparent momentum on the OpenID list(s),
what makes schemas.openid.net (and the OpenID lists) the more 
appropriate venue for this discussion?

Or, are we just trying to get people to play rugby on an ice rink, just 
for the sake of putting on a game?

(then again, I am by no means a computer scientist, nor a sociologist 
for that matter)

- Laurie Rae

Johnny Bufu wrote:
 On 5-Apr-07, at 9:24 AM, Recordon, David wrote:
   
 I'm all about taking advantage of existing momentum, but I have a hard
 time seeing anyone who cares about AX being unwilling to have this
 discussion as a part of the ID Schemas community.  If there is anyone,
 I'd certainly like to understand the reasons why (beyond it being
 hard).
 

 I believe a key difference here is between what people would be  
 willing to do, and what people actually (will) do. For example:

 - I would be willing to go to a rugby game, but I don't know if any  
 of my friends are going, so I probably won't go
 - most of my friends who like rugby may be thinking and acting the  
 same way, or
 - most of my friends would go if they knew rugby, but they haven't  
 discovered it yet.

  From what I've seen, interesting discussions can be sparkled and  
 facilitated by people who do not seem to have been particularly  
 interested in a subject beforehand, but happened to be around because  
 they shared a broader interest with the community.

 We seem to have to potential to build momentum and a critical mass  
 for AX and schema discussions here. I propose we continue the  
 discussions wherever they happen to take place. If the intensity  
 doesn't fade out, having invested a fair bit interest people will be  
 more likely to move to a better suited place if asked to.


 (Just my thoughts, I am by no means a sociology expert.)


 Johnny
   
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Re: [Idschemas] Moving AX Forward (WAS RE: SREG namespace URI rollback)

2007-04-06 Thread Johnny Bufu

On 6-Apr-07, at 4:09 PM, Laurie Rae wrote:

 Seriously though, the issue here isn't really whether or not you  
 and your friends will go to the rugby game,
 it's whether or not the rugby league organizers are trying to get  
 you to go to the rugby game at the appropriate venue.

I would say the venue is not that important; getting into rugby is,  
even on an ice rink if that's where it happens.

 My point? Beyond the relatively inactive state of the ID Schemas  
 list, and the apparent momentum on the OpenID list(s),
 what makes schemas.openid.net (and the OpenID lists) the more  
 appropriate venue for this discussion?

Probably nothing;  but I do think momentum is quite important.

 Or, are we just trying to get people to play rugby on an ice rink,  
 just for the sake of putting on a game?

Why not? If they can actually play it on ice for a little while, I  
would hope they will soon realize how much better it can get on grass.


Johnny

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