Re: [spectre] please link to this site: http://waldvogel.plaintext.cc/
Thanks Inke/ Florian, This does help to contextualise. I had indeed linked to the site already, but was keen to understand a little more of the background. But as Robbin from The Thing points out, some contextual information helps others less in the loop with regard to these particular players, who understand and are potentially interested to support the position you are espousing, but might not understand the background. cheers amc On 23/02/2006, at 7:18 PM, Inke Arns wrote: Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 00:35:56 +0100 From: Florian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Inke Arns [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: amanda mcdonald crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED], spectre@mikrolisten.de Subject: Re: [spectre] please link to this site: http:// waldvogel.plaintext.cc/ Am Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2006 um 23:10:19 Uhr (+0100) schrieb Inke Arns: I am singling out Waldvogel because 1) he is the only of the three curators who's possibly known outside of a (or even in the) German speaking context (as Spectre), and 2) because his name is the only of the three that keeps re-appearing on mailing lists like Nettime and Spectre. Furthermore, I am singling out Waldvogel because 3) indeed, he is one of the three curators of the upcoming Manifesta in Cyprus (and, through that, has quite an international exposure). And Just to add my 10 cents: I am singling out Waldvogel (by running the site while being another writer whose anonymized writing makes up a considerable part of the Just Do it book) because ripping off other -- amanda mcdonald crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: amandamcdc99 skype: amandamcdc __ SPECTRE list for media culture in Deep Europe Info, archive and help: http://coredump.buug.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/spectre
Re: [spectre] please link to this site: http://waldvogel.plaintext.cc/
He's also the only of the three curators who ducked a reply to us after our protests. And on top of that, Inke's text that got ripped off into Just Do It originally had been a lecture of her's at Zollverein - when Waldvogel was its curator, and listening to the talk. So beware of Mr. Waldvogel attending your lectures. There's a chance that they end up, with his name tag, in his next brilliant catalogue, getting him the next big job in the art world. I just learned that he has become a curator at Witte de With in Rotterdam. Hi all, Nicolaus Schafhausen (formerly Frankfurter Kunstverein) became the new Witte de With director and chief-curator on January 1st this year, which here is being seen as quite a positive development. Reading the posting that Waldvogel is (or will be) a curator 'across the street' at Witte de With I was rather hoping that this may have been a slip of the pen. But indeed, further intensive research has confirmed this to be the case ... www.wdw.nl greetings, stephen V2_Institute for the Unstable Media Stephen Kovats_Program Development Eendrachtsstraat 10 3012 XL Rotterdam The Netherlands t_ **31 10 206 7272 f_ **31 10 206 7271 e_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.v2.nl events streamed live at www.v2.nl/live and moderated on irc.v2.nl #V2_tangent TANGENT_FEAR on media and phobic objects Friday March 03, 2006 @ 19.00 - 22.00 CET featuring Karen Lancel and Hermen Maat with Marc de Kesel, Jordan Crandall, Jill Magid and Dennis del Favero TANGENT_LEAP on emergent media landscapes in China Thursday March 30 @ 19.00 - 22.00 CET Featuring Michael Anti, Zhang Ga, Karsten Giese and Guobin Yang in collaboration with International Institute for Asian Studies, Leiden (IIAS) ELECTROMAGNETIC BODIES exhibition opening May 04, 2006 conference: The Electromagnetic Bride - Saturday May 06, 2006 aRt D: Research and Development in Art V2_Publication launched June 04 Beijing Millenium Dialogue In the Line of Flight www.newmediabeijing.org * __ SPECTRE list for media culture in Deep Europe Info, archive and help: http://coredump.buug.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/spectre
Re: [spectre] please link to this site: http://waldvogel.plaintext.cc/
Amanda, I am happy to oblige, but I am wondering why you have chosen to single our Waldvogel in this way and not the other two curators, Edlingerl and Stange, who were presumable equally involved in the decision to borrow from people's text in the way that you describe in your statement/letter about the Just Do It publication (apart from the fact that Waldvogel has a particularly high profile curatorial position as one of the co-curators for the forthcoming Art School version of Manifesta). you are absolutely right in pointing to the fact that it was indeed Thomas Edlinger, Raimar Stange and Florian Waldvogel who were involved in, and who are responsible for the (in)famous Lentos publication (as I am mentioning in my open letter which is online). Btw, Stella Rollig as a director of the Lentos Museum is responsible as well. I am singling out Waldvogel because 1) he is the only of the three curators who's possibly known outside of a (or even in the) German speaking context (as Spectre), and 2) because his name is the only of the three that keeps re-appearing on mailing lists like Nettime and Spectre. Furthermore, I am singling out Waldvogel because 3) indeed, he is one of the three curators of the upcoming Manifesta in Cyprus (and, through that, has quite an international exposure). And 4), I am singling out poor old Florian Waldvogel because it is much more FUN. And seriously, I am interested in finding out whether he was selected to become one of the curators of Manifesta IN SPITE of this behaviour (this incident being only one in a series) or whether he became a Manifesta curator BECAUSE of that. Does the international art world crave for fake leftists surfing on 'protest' aesthetics? It seems so. Can we trust Manifesta 6 if we cannot trust Florian Waldvogel? Btw, if anybody wants to put a link on their website, put it as a href=http://waldvogel.plaintext.cc;Florian Waldvogel/a Thanks! Many greetings, Inke -- Dr. Inke Arns Artistic Director Hartware MedienKunstVerein Guentherstrasse 65 * D-44143 Dortmund T ++49 (231) 823 106 F ++49 (231) 882 02 40 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hmkv.de http://www.projects.v2.nl/~arns/ http://waldvogel.plaintext.cc/ __ SPECTRE list for media culture in Deep Europe Info, archive and help: http://coredump.buug.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/spectre
Re: [spectre] please link to this site: http://waldvogel.plaintext.cc/
Am Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2006 um 23:10:19 Uhr (+0100) schrieb Inke Arns: I am singling out Waldvogel because 1) he is the only of the three curators who's possibly known outside of a (or even in the) German speaking context (as Spectre), and 2) because his name is the only of the three that keeps re-appearing on mailing lists like Nettime and Spectre. Furthermore, I am singling out Waldvogel because 3) indeed, he is one of the three curators of the upcoming Manifesta in Cyprus (and, through that, has quite an international exposure). And Just to add my 10 cents: I am singling out Waldvogel (by running the site while being another writer whose anonymized writing makes up a considerable part of the Just Do it book) because ripping off other writers seems to run as a theme through his entire career. This blog entry http://ronsens.de/machtdose/sampletexter.html says, in my translation: Culture jamming will eat itself - that, too: With his contribution to the 'Just Do It' exhibition, Waldvogel hasn't acted as a sampling writer for the first time. His essay 'Culture Jamming: The Visual Grammar of Resistance' (published in 2003 in: 'Die Offene Stadt: Anwendungsmodelle' ['The Open City: Application Models', edited by Marius Babias and Florian Waldvogel] is sheer text theft as well. The reader had been available as a PDF file for a long time, but was taken offline with the relaunch of the Zollverein art space. Gregor, July 11, 05 I wouldn't mind that if he were an underground anti-copyright activist, like Sebastian Lütgert, for example. But he wants to have the cake and eat it, too: work in institutions, but screw institutional responsibility; copy other works, but commercially release them with his name tag; pose as a radical, but only to invest as little intellectual effort as possible; mask his intellectual incapability. The latter (despite all borrowings from what might have been good texts) fully comes across in the essay mentioned in the blog entry and which is still online at http://www.rebelart.net/i0002.html. That text is unreflected enough to mix Nazi and authoritarian vocabulary like Lebensraum and Vollstreckungsbefehl into a piece supposedly about critical left-wing urbanism. And I'm only scratching the very surface of the imbecility of this text. He's also the only of the three curators who ducked a reply to us after our protests. And on top of that, Inke's text that got ripped off into Just Do It originally had been a lecture of her's at Zollverein - when Waldvogel was its curator, and listening to the talk. So beware of Mr. Waldvogel attending your lectures. There's a chance that they end up, with his name tag, in his next brilliant catalogue, getting him the next big job in the art world. I just learned that he has become a curator at Witte de With in Rotterdam. It sounds unbelievable, but to see that I'm not exaggerating, have look on the Manifesta 6 site http://www.e-flux.com/displayshow.php?file=message_1108382427.txt where we learn that he is, quote, Author of Who Let the Dogs Out (2001), co-editor of Campus (2002), Die Offene Stadt (2003), Julie Ault/Martin Beck Critical Conditions (2003), Bank 1-3 (2004) and Just do it! (2005). And did I mention that when Just Do It came out, he and Thomas Edlinger went onto a tour through Germany where they made public readings of their book? -F -- http://cramer.plaintext.cc:70 gopher://cramer.plaintext.cc __ SPECTRE list for media culture in Deep Europe Info, archive and help: http://coredump.buug.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/spectre
Florian Cramer: Re: [spectre] please link to this site: http://waldvogel.plaintext.cc/
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 00:35:56 +0100 From: Florian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Inke Arns [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: amanda mcdonald crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED], spectre@mikrolisten.de Subject: Re: [spectre] please link to this site: http://waldvogel.plaintext.cc/ Am Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2006 um 23:10:19 Uhr (+0100) schrieb Inke Arns: I am singling out Waldvogel because 1) he is the only of the three curators who's possibly known outside of a (or even in the) German speaking context (as Spectre), and 2) because his name is the only of the three that keeps re-appearing on mailing lists like Nettime and Spectre. Furthermore, I am singling out Waldvogel because 3) indeed, he is one of the three curators of the upcoming Manifesta in Cyprus (and, through that, has quite an international exposure). And Just to add my 10 cents: I am singling out Waldvogel (by running the site while being another writer whose anonymized writing makes up a considerable part of the Just Do it book) because ripping off other writers seems to run as a theme through his entire career. This blog entry http://ronsens.de/machtdose/sampletexter.html says, in my translation: Culture jamming will eat itself - that, too: With his contribution to the 'Just Do It' exhibition, Waldvogel hasn't acted as a sampling writer for the first time. His essay 'Culture Jamming: The Visual Grammar of Resistance' (published in 2003 in: 'Die Offene Stadt: Anwendungsmodelle' ['The Open City: Application Models', edited by Marius Babias and Florian Waldvogel] is sheer text theft as well. The reader had been available as a PDF file for a long time, but was taken offline with the relaunch of the Zollverein art space. Gregor, July 11, 05 I wouldn't mind that if he were an underground anti-copyright activist, like Sebastian Lütgert, for example. But he wants to have the cake and eat it, too: work in institutions, but screw institutional responsibility; copy other works, but commercially release them with his name tag; pose as a radical, but only to invest as little intellectual effort as possible; mask his intellectual incapability. The latter (despite all borrowings from what might have been good texts) fully comes across in the essay mentioned in the blog entry and which is still online at http://www.rebelart.net/i0002.html. That text is unreflected enough to mix Nazi and authoritarian vocabulary like Lebensraum and Vollstreckungsbefehl into a piece supposedly about critical left-wing urbanism. And I'm only scratching the very surface of the imbecility of this text. He's also the only of the three curators who ducked a reply to us after our protests. And on top of that, Inke's text that got ripped off into Just Do It originally had been a lecture of her's at Zollverein - when Waldvogel was its curator, and listening to the talk. So beware of Mr. Waldvogel attending your lectures. There's a chance that they end up, with his name tag, in his next brilliant catalogue, getting him the next big job in the art world. I just learned that he has become a curator at Witte de With in Rotterdam. It sounds unbelievable, but to see that I'm not exaggerating, have look on the Manifesta 6 site http://www.e-flux.com/displayshow.php?file=message_1108382427.txt where we learn that he is, quote, Author of Who Let the Dogs Out (2001), co-editor of Campus (2002), Die Offene Stadt (2003), Julie Ault/Martin Beck Critical Conditions (2003), Bank 1-3 (2004) and Just do it! (2005). And did I mention that when Just Do It came out, he and Thomas Edlinger went onto a tour through Germany where they made public readings of their book? -F -- http://cramer.plaintext.cc:70 gopher://cramer.plaintext.cc -- Dr. Inke Arns Artistic Director Hartware MedienKunstVerein Guentherstrasse 65 * D-44143 Dortmund T ++49 (231) 823 106 F ++49 (231) 882 02 40 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hmkv.de http://www.projects.v2.nl/~arns/ http://waldvogel.plaintext.cc/ __ SPECTRE list for media culture in Deep Europe Info, archive and help: http://coredump.buug.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/spectre
Re: [spectre] please link to this site: http://waldvogel.plaintext.cc/
On Feb 23, 2006, at 1:13 PM, Inke Arns wrote: it would be great if you could link to this site http://waldvogel.plaintext.cc/ (generously generated by Florian Cramer!) I'll be happy to link to the site but better yet would be a summary of the situation that I could put up on post.thing.net along with that link, which would then get reblogged on various American and other sites through RSS feeds. Most readers won't know what Manifesta is much less the original Do It context so you'll have to explain who the players are. Amanda MC, who I run into now and then in NYC, can't dictate what goes out on eyebeam/reblog but it may be reblogged from post.thing.net, which they do regularly, depending who is doing the reblogging. In any case, it would go to other sites and be archived on ours for google searches. Robbin Murphy THE THING, Inc. __ SPECTRE list for media culture in Deep Europe Info, archive and help: http://coredump.buug.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/spectre
