[Spooks] Automated Spy Numbers Loggings
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list These loggings were submitted to the Spy Numbers Station Database on 2010-08-29 by westli, Simi Valley, California. Freq ENIGMA Day MMDD UTC Mode Comments -- --- -- - 10522V13 Thu 08262010 0600 USB CCYL New Star #4. Msg set: 8-4. Very weak. Very poor readability. 10522V13 Thu 08262010 1200 USB CCYL New Star #4. Msg set: 8-4. Very weak. Very poor readability. 10522V13 Thu 08262010 1300 USB CCYL New Star #4. Msg set: 8-4. Very weak. Very poor readability. 10522V13 Fri 08272010 1200 USB CCYL New Star #4. Msg set: 8-4. Weak. Fair readability. 10522V13 Fri 08272010 1300 USB CCYL New Star #4. Msg set: 8-4. Weak. Poor readability. The Spy Numbers Database is an effort to create as complete a record of Spy Numbers Station transmissions as possible. You can submit your loggings to the database, and search the database. Details are available at http://www.spynumbers.com/numbersDB __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Spooks] Automated Spy Numbers Loggings
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list These loggings were submitted to the Spy Numbers Station Database on 2010-08-29 by westli, Simi Valley, California. Freq ENIGMA Day MMDD UTC Mode Comments -- --- -- - 9153V26 Fri 08272010 0958 USB CCYL. 3-fig in Mandarin Chinese. Weak. Fair readability. The Spy Numbers Database is an effort to create as complete a record of Spy Numbers Station transmissions as possible. You can submit your loggings to the database, and search the database. Details are available at http://www.spynumbers.com/numbersDB __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] [enigma2000] Re: Information on V2a/M8a/SK01/Radio Habana Cuba ringing sound
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list I heard it on all four and have recordings from each. I didn't always make note of the ringing in my logs, but I did make notes in the file names of recordings. My last recorded occurrence of the ringing was on 2009-10-24. However, I have a feeling that I heard it later, but I really can't confirm that. The earliest log I know of for the ringing was 2010-10-10, by an ENIGMA2000 member (for members of ENIGMA2000, the message number is #25086.) There was also another log listed in the SpyNumbers database one day later. Here is something else I found while looking for my recordings with ringing : M08a / 5800kHz / 2009-10-13 / 06:47:47UTC - http://eepromeagle.dyndns.org/e2kfiles/2010/08/M08aWithRingEndSound-5800kHzAMpIF-20091013-064747UTC.wav Listen carefully from the start until 3 seconds in, and then again at 7 to 8 seconds. There are weak chimes in the background. The static and sweeping static is RFI from my monitor. As the file name implies, this transmission had ringing, but it isn't in this file. I can send recordings with the ringing if anyone wants them. Best regards, Nick Smith --- On Sat, 8/28/10, Jochen Schäfer jochen.schup...@gmx.de wrote: From: Jochen Schäfer jochen.schup...@gmx.de Subject: [enigma2000] Re: [Spooks] Information on V2a/M8a/SK01/Radio Habana Cuba ringing sound To: Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations spooks@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, August 28, 2010, 10:18 PM Almost a year old now (October 2009), but in the interest of adding content, here is something I wrote. I originally sent it to the ENIGMA2000 group, so that's why you'll see references to e2kfiles. Information on V2a/M8a/SK01/Radio Habana Cuba ringing sound I use a Ten-Tec RX320D and an indoor antenna that is a few feet longer than 100 feet (30.48 meters) and used Baudline ( http://www.baudline .com/) for analysis of the frequencies and tone length. Ringing: Ring high tone : 777.10 Hz Ring low tone : 621.83 Hz Ring tone length : 0.0700 Seconds Ring tone High-Low cycle length : 0.1400 Seconds Ring High-Low rate : 7.1428571 Hz Unknown low tone : 466.55 Hz [Note: Frequencies and times were measured with a cheap internal sound card. They are probably not totally accurate.] With this information, I've made a simulation of the ringing. It is available here: http://eepromeagle.dyndns.org/e2kfiles/ringsimulation.wav The ringing will sometimes be longer or shorter than usual. However, I have not checked the length of each ring to see if a certain ring length corresponds to a certain number (like the XP stations, but with time instead of frequency). By ear, the tones themselves seem to stay pretty much constant in length somewhere near the measured 0.0700 second length, and it's the number of times the high-low (or low-high) cycles repeat that changes. Listening to my recordings, in one of the rings, the length of the first tone in the ring sounds like it is shorter. I'm not sure if this was an error when I was recording or if it really was shorter. There is often a really low tone (the Unknown low tone as specified above) that is sometimes present with the ringing and will sometimes stop and start. This could be just RFI, but I thought it'd be worth mentioning. I saw something about this on the list, but on 2009-10-21 at 04:48UTC on 6000kHz, I heard the same ringing sound on Radio Habana Cuba. I made two recordings of that: http://eepromeagle.dyndns.org/e2kfiles/RHCwRing-6000kHzAM-20091021-0448UTC.wav and http://eepromeagle.dyndns.org/e2kfiles/RHCwRing-6000kHzAM-20091021-0455UTC.wav . I also made a good recording of SK01 with very loud ringing (some QRM though) on 2009-10-13 at 09:33UTC on 5930kHz AM, which you can find here: http://eepromeagle.dyndns.org/e2kfiles/SK01-5930kHzAM-20091013-0933UTC.wav (warning : it is almost 150MB. I recorded it with a sample rate of 48000 kHz even though I was using a filter that appears to filter off anything above 4.5kHz) I might have recorded it in SSB and forgot to change the filename (my radio is around 53Hz off frequency in SSB without correction). I think I had the radio tuned somewhere around 53Hz below 5930kHz to correct for inaccuracy though. Here is another one with loud ringing as well as the low tone (you can hear it make a dah-dit-dah noise near the middle) 2009-10-13 at 09:32UTC on 5947kHz LSB: http://eepromeagle.dyndns.org/e2kfiles/SK01-5947kHzLSBaAM-20091013-0932UTC.wav I did switch modes near the middle of the recording, so there are some loud beeps. It was recorded in LSB, not sure if I corrected it or not. I may have written down the frequencies and times incorrectly for the recordings since I probably mistyped some of the filenames. I normally keep logs with accurate data that are separate from the recordings, but
Re: [Spooks] Information on V2a/M8a/SK01/Radio Habana Cuba ringing sound
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Nice to talk to you again. I didn't notice the naming mistake until much later. :) Interesting. I never thought about the possibility of it being an announcement that their is encoded information in the broadcast. If I understand correctly, I produced the simulation in a very similar way to what you described. In the Baudline tone generator ( http://www.baudline.com/manual/tone_generator.html#tone_generator ), I set the maximum tone to 777.10Hz and the minimum tone to 621.83Hz (both sine wave), set the modulation to FM, set the modulation function to square, and then set the modulation frequency to 7.143Hz. This made it switch between the two frequencies at a rate of 7.143Hz. The 5600Hz signal... I see something closer to 5425Hz. If that's what you meant, then that would be noise produced by my soundcard or motherboard. Best regards, Nick Smith --- On Sat, 8/28/10, Ryan Kirby ryan.sdef...@gmail.com wrote: From: Ryan Kirby ryan.sdef...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Spooks] Information on V2a/M8a/SK01/Radio Habana Cuba ringing sound To: Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations spooks@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, August 28, 2010, 11:11 PM Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list With those stations with a lot of spoken word (i.e. news casts) its possible they are using the spoken equivalent to a book cypher, but I cant figure out the purpose of the ringing if this is the case. Other than the ringing could indicate that there is an intended message in that portion of the news cast. Since verbal/book cyphers are impossible to crack without the key (nothing's impossible, but there is too many possibilities in any spoken/written word) it would make sense if they chose to do that. The other thing is that the ring appears to be a result of a single square wave form oscillator, with the LFO set square as well. This is a good choice ensuring a message gets across (if the ringing is the medium). The technique for that would be to set up a receiver with a modular signal amplifier with the gain set high. Then use a technique called comb filtering to filter out all of the frequencies OTHER than the frequencies of the ringing. You could easily do this with a analog/digital rackmount EQ. The human voice works on several frequencies, and just like other natural noise, as a very large set of harmonics. The downside to the voice, etc, over the radio is RFI or other forms of signal degradation may effect the frequencies of those harmonics, which will cause the voice (or whatever) to be not understandable. This is why in those recordings, it may be hard to hear the voice properly, but the ringing cuts through very well. There is no overtones or harmonics with signals produced by oscillators (unless you use multiple oscillators just to create harmonics/overtones now I'm going off topic). Here's an example using Nick's Recordings, using the comb filtering technique on the frequencies he listed. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AJWZY33X Spectral analysis shows nothing odd about the ring or voice... But at ~5600hz there is a constant burst... kinda like a constant binary 0101010101 pattern all the way through. It modulates at a very high frequency and due to the constant pattern I can say that there is no analog transmission of data on this frequency. This pattern does occur at a few other frequencies as well. The odd thing about it, is it doesn't seem to be due to interference. It could be a result of their broadcasting equipment, or a result of the recording equipment, however. The only odd thing about it, is that it's occurring on ONLY those frequencies. Just my findings. Ryan On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 1:16 AM, Nick Smith appledesktop...@yahoo.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Almost a year old now (October 2009), but in the interest of adding content, here is something I wrote. I originally sent it to the ENIGMA2000 group, so that's why you'll see references to e2kfiles. Information on V2a/M8a/SK01/Radio Habana Cuba ringing sound I use a Ten-Tec RX320D and an indoor antenna that is a few feet longer than 100 feet (30.48 meters) and used Baudline ( http://www.baudline .com/) for analysis of the frequencies and tone length. Ringing: Ring high tone : 777.10 Hz Ring low tone : 621.83 Hz Ring tone length : 0.0700 Seconds Ring tone High-Low cycle length : 0.1400 Seconds Ring High-Low rate : 7.1428571 Hz Unknown low tone : 466.55 Hz [Note: Frequencies and times were measured with a cheap internal sound card. They are probably not totally accurate.] With this information, I've made a simulation of the ringing. It is available here: http://eepromeagle.dyndns.org/e2kfiles/ringsimulation.wav
Re: [Spooks] Information on V2a/M8a/SK01/Radio Habana Cuba ringing sound
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list If I understand correctly, I produced the simulation in a very similar way to what you described. Yes, Nick, the tones are the same as in the original. Nice 73 Jochen Kopf, ENIGMA2000 __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Information on V2a/M8a/SK01/Radio Habana Cuba ringing sound
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list I thought it was noise from equipment at first too. Upon examining other clips you sent me the info I was seeing in spectral analysis doesn't cut thru all of the clips. In fact it's only in the Cuban ones and in other clips it's only where the news caster is speaking. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2010, at 5:15, Nick Smith appledesktop...@yahoo.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Nice to talk to you again. I didn't notice the naming mistake until much later. :) Interesting. I never thought about the possibility of it being an announcement that their is encoded information in the broadcast. If I understand correctly, I produced the simulation in a very similar way to what you described. In the Baudline tone generator ( http://www.baudline.com/manual/tone_generator.html#tone_generator ), I set the maximum tone to 777.10Hz and the minimum tone to 621.83Hz (both sine wave), set the modulation to FM, set the modulation function to square, and then set the modulation frequency to 7.143Hz. This made it switch between the two frequencies at a rate of 7.143Hz. The 5600Hz signal... I see something closer to 5425Hz. If that's what you meant, then that would be noise produced by my soundcard or motherboard. Best regards, Nick Smith --- On Sat, 8/28/10, Ryan Kirby ryan.sdef...@gmail.com wrote: From: Ryan Kirby ryan.sdef...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Spooks] Information on V2a/M8a/SK01/Radio Habana Cuba ringing sound To: Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations spooks@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, August 28, 2010, 11:11 PM Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list With those stations with a lot of spoken word (i.e. news casts) its possible they are using the spoken equivalent to a book cypher, but I cant figure out the purpose of the ringing if this is the case. Other than the ringing could indicate that there is an intended message in that portion of the news cast. Since verbal/book cyphers are impossible to crack without the key (nothing's impossible, but there is too many possibilities in any spoken/written word) it would make sense if they chose to do that. The other thing is that the ring appears to be a result of a single square wave form oscillator, with the LFO set square as well. This is a good choice ensuring a message gets across (if the ringing is the medium). The technique for that would be to set up a receiver with a modular signal amplifier with the gain set high. Then use a technique called comb filtering to filter out all of the frequencies OTHER than the frequencies of the ringing. You could easily do this with a analog/digital rackmount EQ. The human voice works on several frequencies, and just like other natural noise, as a very large set of harmonics. The downside to the voice, etc, over the radio is RFI or other forms of signal degradation may effect the frequencies of those harmonics, which will cause the voice (or whatever) to be not understandable. This is why in those recordings, it may be hard to hear the voice properly, but the ringing cuts through very well. There is no overtones or harmonics with signals produced by oscillators (unless you use multiple oscillators just to create harmonics/overtones now I'm going off topic). Here's an example using Nick's Recordings, using the comb filtering technique on the frequencies he listed. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AJWZY33X Spectral analysis shows nothing odd about the ring or voice... But at ~5600hz there is a constant burst... kinda like a constant binary 0101010101 pattern all the way through. It modulates at a very high frequency and due to the constant pattern I can say that there is no analog transmission of data on this frequency. This pattern does occur at a few other frequencies as well. The odd thing about it, is it doesn't seem to be due to interference. It could be a result of their broadcasting equipment, or a result of the recording equipment, however. The only odd thing about it, is that it's occurring on ONLY those frequencies. Just my findings. Ryan On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 1:16 AM, Nick Smith appledesktop...@yahoo.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Almost a year old now (October 2009), but in the interest of adding content, here is something I wrote. I originally sent it to the ENIGMA2000 group, so that's why you'll see references to e2kfiles. Information on V2a/M8a/SK01/Radio Habana Cuba ringing sound I use a Ten-Tec RX320D and an indoor antenna that is a few feet longer than 100 feet (30.48 meters) and used Baudline ( http://www.baudline .com/) for analysis of the frequencies and tone length. Ringing: Ring high
Re: [Spooks] Information on V2a/M8a/SK01/Radio Habana Cuba ringing sound
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list I'm not sure if I understand what you mean. To clarify, the noise only occurs when my computer is doing certain things. If Baudline is minimized or if I'm using another program to record, for example, there will be no noise. If Baudline is visible, then there is noise. My serial port, the one that is used to control my radio, will sometimes make noise too; it is audible in until 15 seconds from the start in http://eepromeagle.dyndns.org/e2kfiles/RHCwRing-6000kHzAM-20091021-0448UTC.wav , which is the file you filtered. When I recorded V13, I was using SoX ( http://sox.sourceforge.net/ ) and I was using a software loopback, so that would explain why there was none of the noise in those. Hope that explained it and I hope I understood. :) Jochen : Glad to hear that I got the timing and frequencies right! :) Best regards, Nick Smith --- On Sun, 8/29/10, Ryan Kirby ryan.sdef...@gmail.com wrote: From: Ryan Kirby ryan.sdef...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Spooks] Information on V2a/M8a/SK01/Radio Habana Cuba ringing sound To: Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations spooks@mailman.qth.net Cc: Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations spooks@mailman.qth.net Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 2:40 PM Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list I thought it was noise from equipment at first too. Upon examining other clips you sent me the info I was seeing in spectral analysis doesn't cut thru all of the clips. In fact it's only in the Cuban ones and in other clips it's only where the news caster is speaking. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2010, at 5:15, Nick Smith appledesktop...@yahoo.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Nice to talk to you again. I didn't notice the naming mistake until much later. :) Interesting. I never thought about the possibility of it being an announcement that their is encoded information in the broadcast. If I understand correctly, I produced the simulation in a very similar way to what you described. In the Baudline tone generator ( http://www.baudline.com/manual/tone_generator.html#tone_generator ), I set the maximum tone to 777.10Hz and the minimum tone to 621.83Hz (both sine wave), set the modulation to FM, set the modulation function to square, and then set the modulation frequency to 7.143Hz. This made it switch between the two frequencies at a rate of 7.143Hz. The 5600Hz signal... I see something closer to 5425Hz. If that's what you meant, then that would be noise produced by my soundcard or motherboard. Best regards, Nick Smith --- On Sat, 8/28/10, Ryan Kirby ryan.sdef...@gmail.com wrote: From: Ryan Kirby ryan.sdef...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Spooks] Information on V2a/M8a/SK01/Radio Habana Cuba ringing sound To: Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations spooks@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, August 28, 2010, 11:11 PM Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list With those stations with a lot of spoken word (i.e. news casts) its possible they are using the spoken equivalent to a book cypher, but I cant figure out the purpose of the ringing if this is the case. Other than the ringing could indicate that there is an intended message in that portion of the news cast. Since verbal/book cyphers are impossible to crack without the key (nothing's impossible, but there is too many possibilities in any spoken/written word) it would make sense if they chose to do that. The other thing is that the ring appears to be a result of a single square wave form oscillator, with the LFO set square as well. This is a good choice ensuring a message gets across (if the ringing is the medium). The technique for that would be to set up a receiver with a modular signal amplifier with the gain set high. Then use a technique called comb filtering to filter out all of the frequencies OTHER than the frequencies of the ringing. You could easily do this with a analog/digital rackmount EQ. The human voice works on several frequencies, and just like other natural noise, as a very large set of harmonics. The downside to the voice, etc, over the radio is RFI or other forms of signal degradation may effect the frequencies of those harmonics, which will cause the voice (or whatever) to be not understandable. This is why in those recordings, it may be hard to hear the voice properly, but the ringing cuts through very well. There is no overtones or harmonics with signals produced by oscillators (unless you use multiple oscillators just to create harmonics/overtones now I'm going off topic). Here's an example using Nick's Recordings, using the comb filtering technique on the frequencies he
Re: [Spooks] Mysterious Russian 'Buzzer' radio broadcast changes
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list UVB-76, UVB-76 ? 93 882 naimina 74 14 35 74 ? 9 3 8 8 2 nikolai, anna, ivan, michail, ivan, nikolai, anna, 7, 4, 1, 4, 3, 5, 7, 4, As far as I know, no one has said it out loud yet, so I will. The format using a 5-digit group followed by a Russian language word and several more figure groups (not necessarily 5-digits long), was the usual format for the old Soviet General Staff codeword messages (CWMs) broadcast often during the Cold War. But I don't know if the Russians are still using it or a similar format. Having said that, it reminds me of the early U.S. SAC SKY KING messages. Oh, for the good ol' days! ... Martin VE3OAT __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Mysterious Russian 'Buzzer' radio broadcast changes
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list SEAKING? http://stude1c.fiu.edu/dumpbox/seaking-ean.jpg On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Martin VE3OAT ve3...@storm.ca wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list UVB-76, UVB-76 ? 93 882 naimina 74 14 35 74 ? 9 3 8 8 2 nikolai, anna, ivan, michail, ivan, nikolai, anna, 7, 4, 1, 4, 3, 5, 7, 4, As far as I know, no one has said it out loud yet, so I will. The format using a 5-digit group followed by a Russian language word and several more figure groups (not necessarily 5-digits long), was the usual format for the old Soviet General Staff codeword messages (CWMs) broadcast often during the Cold War. But I don't know if the Russians are still using it or a similar format. Having said that, it reminds me of the early U.S. SAC SKY KING messages. Oh, for the good ol' days! ... Martin VE3OAT __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Tom Morris, KG4CYX Engineer, WRGP 88.1/95.3/96.9 FM, Homestead/Miami/North Miami Beach __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Information on V2a/M8a/SK01/Radio Habana Cuba ringing sound
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list It's certainly NOT what I'm talking about. It isn't an audible noise. I only discovered it during spectral analysis. I was then able to do a band pass filter from 5400 to 6000 hz. Only then could I hear it. On other Cuban ones it has a certain pattern. I'll have to make some recordings and screenshots to show you Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2010, at 10:13, Nick Smith appledesktop...@yahoo.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list I'm not sure if I understand what you mean. To clarify, the noise only occurs when my computer is doing certain things. If Baudline is minimized or if I'm using another program to record, for example, there will be no noise. If Baudline is visible, then there is noise. My serial port, the one that is used to control my radio, will sometimes make noise too; it is audible in until 15 seconds from the start in http://eepromeagle.dyndns.org/e2kfiles/RHCwRing-6000kHzAM-20091021-0448UTC.wav , which is the file you filtered. When I recorded V13, I was using SoX ( http://sox.sourceforge.net/ ) and I was using a software loopback, so that would explain why there was none of the noise in those. Hope that explained it and I hope I understood. :) Jochen : Glad to hear that I got the timing and frequencies right! :) Best regards, Nick Smith --- On Sun, 8/29/10, Ryan Kirby ryan.sdef...@gmail.com wrote: From: Ryan Kirby ryan.sdef...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Spooks] Information on V2a/M8a/SK01/Radio Habana Cuba ringing sound To: Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations spooks@mailman.qth.net Cc: Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations spooks@mailman.qth.net Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 2:40 PM Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list I thought it was noise from equipment at first too. Upon examining other clips you sent me the info I was seeing in spectral analysis doesn't cut thru all of the clips. In fact it's only in the Cuban ones and in other clips it's only where the news caster is speaking. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2010, at 5:15, Nick Smith appledesktop...@yahoo.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Nice to talk to you again. I didn't notice the naming mistake until much later. :) Interesting. I never thought about the possibility of it being an announcement that their is encoded information in the broadcast. If I understand correctly, I produced the simulation in a very similar way to what you described. In the Baudline tone generator ( http://www.baudline.com/manual/tone_generator.html#tone_generator ), I set the maximum tone to 777.10Hz and the minimum tone to 621.83Hz (both sine wave), set the modulation to FM, set the modulation function to square, and then set the modulation frequency to 7.143Hz. This made it switch between the two frequencies at a rate of 7.143Hz. The 5600Hz signal... I see something closer to 5425Hz. If that's what you meant, then that would be noise produced by my soundcard or motherboard. Best regards, Nick Smith --- On Sat, 8/28/10, Ryan Kirby ryan.sdef...@gmail.com wrote: From: Ryan Kirby ryan.sdef...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Spooks] Information on V2a/M8a/SK01/Radio Habana Cuba ringing sound To: Shortwave Spy Numbers Stations spooks@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, August 28, 2010, 11:11 PM Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list With those stations with a lot of spoken word (i.e. news casts) its possible they are using the spoken equivalent to a book cypher, but I cant figure out the purpose of the ringing if this is the case. Other than the ringing could indicate that there is an intended message in that portion of the news cast. Since verbal/book cyphers are impossible to crack without the key (nothing's impossible, but there is too many possibilities in any spoken/written word) it would make sense if they chose to do that. The other thing is that the ring appears to be a result of a single square wave form oscillator, with the LFO set square as well. This is a good choice ensuring a message gets across (if the ringing is the medium). The technique for that would be to set up a receiver with a modular signal amplifier with the gain set high. Then use a technique called comb filtering to filter out all of the frequencies OTHER than the frequencies of the ringing. You could easily do this with a analog/digital rackmount EQ. The human voice works on several frequencies, and just like other natural noise, as a very large set of harmonics. The downside to the voice, etc, over the radio is RFI or other forms of signal degradation may effect the frequencies of those harmonics, which will cause the voice (or
Re: [Spooks] Mysterious Russian 'Buzzer' radio broadcast changes
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Tom Morris bluen...@gmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list SEAKING? http://stude1c.fiu.edu/dumpbox/seaking-ean.jpg Wow. Seeing all that equipment in the background takes me back. I was a Tech Controller in the US Air Force in the late 80's - early 90's. The rack to the far left looks like some kind of wave guide tuner or something like that. M __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Spooks] Automated Spy Numbers Loggings
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list These loggings were submitted to the Spy Numbers Station Database on 2010-08-30 by Nick Gessler, Hillsborough, NC. Freq ENIGMA Day MMDD UTC Mode Comments -- --- -- - 6215V24 Sun 08292010 1230AM Musical prelude only. Weak... The Spy Numbers Database is an effort to create as complete a record of Spy Numbers Station transmissions as possible. You can submit your loggings to the database, and search the database. Details are available at http://www.spynumbers.com/numbersDB __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Mysterious Russian 'Buzzer' radio broadcast changes
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Lots of nice Technical Material Corp gear. You're right about thatdoes look like a uWave patch panel arrangement. John At 01:24 PM 8/29/2010, you wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Tom Morris bluen...@gmail.com wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list SEAKING? http://stude1c.fiu.edu/dumpbox/seaking-ean.jpg Wow. Seeing all that equipment in the background takes me back. I was a Tech Controller in the US Air Force in the late 80's - early 90's. The rack to the far left looks like some kind of wave guide tuner or something like that. M __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Mysterious Russian 'Buzzer' radio broadcast changes
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Tom Morris wrote : SEAKING? http://stude1c.fiu.edu/dumpbox/seaking-ean.jpg Nope. Sky King. Late 1950s, early 1960s. I have log books full of them. Always read as words twice. Hello SKY KING. This is Andrews. Do not answer. Break. SOB SISTER ECHO. Break. Authentication is TANGO WHISKEY 1 9. Authentication time is 3 0 0 1 2 5 ZULU. Break. I say again. Hello SKY KING. This is ... (etc) The best comm operators had a real rhythm in their voices that I'm sure improved readability for those in their audience who were at long range. I have never heard any SEAKING messages and as I recall the EAMs didn't start until about 1980 or a little before. Maybe someone else remembers better than I do. (I had stopped keeping logs by the time they started.) Thanks for the link to the picture of all that nice TMC gear. Oh man, I wish I had some of that equipment today! Now we are really off topic. ... MartinVE3OAT __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Mysterious Russian 'Buzzer' radio broadcast changes
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list The panel on the left isn't microwave.. that's just a giant manual antenna switch using hard broadcast feedline (essentially concentric copper pipe). I think the picture I stole for this was of a LORAN station. On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Martin VE3OAT ve3...@storm.ca wrote: Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list Tom Morris wrote : SEAKING? http://stude1c.fiu.edu/dumpbox/seaking-ean.jpg Nope. Sky King. Late 1950s, early 1960s. I have log books full of them. Always read as words twice. Hello SKY KING. This is Andrews. Do not answer. Break. SOB SISTER ECHO. Break. Authentication is TANGO WHISKEY 1 9. Authentication time is 3 0 0 1 2 5 ZULU. Break. I say again. Hello SKY KING. This is ... (etc) The best comm operators had a real rhythm in their voices that I'm sure improved readability for those in their audience who were at long range. I have never heard any SEAKING messages and as I recall the EAMs didn't start until about 1980 or a little before. Maybe someone else remembers better than I do. (I had stopped keeping logs by the time they started.) Thanks for the link to the picture of all that nice TMC gear. Oh man, I wish I had some of that equipment today! Now we are really off topic. ... Martin VE3OAT __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Tom Morris, KG4CYX Engineer, WRGP 88.1/95.3/96.9 FM, Homestead/Miami/North Miami Beach __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Spooks] Mysterious Russian 'Buzzer' radio broadcast changes
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list I heard the Skyking Skyking do not answer messages until 2000 or 2001 on 11175. Kurt - Original Message - From: Martin VE3OAT ve3...@storm.ca : Nope. Sky King. Late 1950s, early 1960s. I have log books full of : them. __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Spooks] Automated Spy Numbers Loggings
Visit http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks to unsubscribe from this list These loggings were submitted to the Spy Numbers Station Database on 2010-08-30 by Nick Gessler, Hillsborough, NC. Freq ENIGMA Day MMDD UTC Mode Comments -- --- -- - 6855V2a Mon 08302010 0300AM caught late / last callout 82001 / cuba, female, spanish / strong with fading / Hillsborough, North Carolina The Spy Numbers Database is an effort to create as complete a record of Spy Numbers Station transmissions as possible. You can submit your loggings to the database, and search the database. Details are available at http://www.spynumbers.com/numbersDB __ Spooks mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/spooks Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Spooks@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
