Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-27 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
o have gotten out of hand. Why not just agree that you original statement of "increased by up to 3x" was an exaggeration? Cheers, Adrian > -Original Message- > From: Zafar Ali (zali) [mailto:z...@cisco.com<mailto:z...@cisco.com>] > Sent: 20 November 2017 23:36 &

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-27 Thread Greg Mirsky
re achieved through an expansion of a Binding SID are just part of the >> landscape and (of course) thy have to be coped with. The draft doesn't >> introduce sub-paths, it just observes that they exist. >> >> Lastly, the conversation on the number of labels as a multiplier see

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-26 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
raft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths<draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-pa...@ietf.org<mailto:draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-pa...@ietf.org>>;mpls<m...@ietf.org<mailto:m...@ietf.org>>;spring<spring@ietf.org<mailto:spring@ietf.org>

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-26 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
dr...@olddog.co.uk<mailto:adr...@olddog.co.uk> > Cc: 'spring'; 'mpls' > Subject: Re: [mpls] [spring] Special purpose labels in > draft-hegde-spring-traffic- > accounting-for-sr-paths > > Hi Adrian, > > Some comments are provided in-line. > > Please note that, we

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-26 Thread Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
citele.com>>; draft-ietf-spring-oam-usec...@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-spring-oam-usec...@ietf.org>; xuxia...@huawei.com<mailto:xuxia...@huawei.com>; z...@cisco.com<mailto:z...@cisco.com>; gregimir...@gmail.com<mailto:gregimir...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [spr

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-22 Thread Robert Raszuk
are achieved through an expansion of a Binding SID are just part of the >> landscape and (of course) thy have to be coped with. The draft doesn't >> introduce sub-paths, it just observes that they exist. >> >> Lastly, the conversation on the number of labels as a multiplier see

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-22 Thread Jeff Tantsura
xpansion of a Binding SID are just part of the >>> landscape and (of course) thy have to be coped with. The draft doesn't >>> introduce sub-paths, it just observes that they exist. >>> >>> Lastly, the conversation on the number of labels as a multiplier seem

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-22 Thread Martin Horneffer
23:36 > To: adr...@olddog.co.uk <mailto:adr...@olddog.co.uk> > Cc: 'spring'; 'mpls' > Subject: Re: [mpls] [spring] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic- > accounting-for-sr-paths > > Hi Adrian, > > Some comments are prov

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-22 Thread Stewart Bryant
Comments inline: On 20/11/2017 23:36, Zafar Ali (zali) wrote: Hi Adrian, Some comments are provided in-line. Please note that, we all want to let this lingering tread die and follow-up on the next steps noted during this email exchange. I will be happy to have a webEx call and discuss it

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-21 Thread Zafar Ali (zali)
r...@olddog.co.uk" <adr...@olddog.co.uk> Cc: "Zafar Ali (zali)" <z...@cisco.com>, "m...@ietf.org" <m...@ietf.org>, spring <spring@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths Hi Adr

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-21 Thread Robert Raszuk
of hand. Why not just agree that you original statement of > "increased by up to 3x" was an exaggeration? > > Cheers, > Adrian > > > -Original Message----- > > From: Zafar Ali (zali) [mailto:z...@cisco.com] > > Sent: 20 November 2017 23:36 > > To: adr

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-21 Thread Adrian Farrel
z...@cisco.com] > Sent: 20 November 2017 23:36 > To: adr...@olddog.co.uk > Cc: 'spring'; 'mpls' > Subject: Re: [mpls] [spring] Special purpose labels in > draft-hegde-spring-traffic- > accounting-for-sr-paths > > Hi Adrian, > > Some comments are provided in-line. > >

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-20 Thread Zafar Ali (zali)
@ietf.org" <m...@ietf.org>, spring <spring@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [mpls] [spring] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths Hi Zafar, "overloading existing special label"? AFAIK, MPLS WG created Extended Special Label exactly for ca

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-20 Thread Greg Mirsky
2017 at 7:03 PM > *To: *"Zafar Ali (zali)" <z...@cisco.com> > *Cc: *"adr...@olddog.co.uk" <adr...@olddog.co.uk>, "m...@ietf.org" < > m...@ietf.org>, spring <spring@ietf.org> > *Subject: *Re: [mpls] [spring] Special purpose labels in &

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-20 Thread Zafar Ali (zali)
From: Greg Mirsky <gregimir...@gmail.com> Date: Monday, November 20, 2017 at 7:03 PM To: "Zafar Ali (zali)" <z...@cisco.com> Cc: "adr...@olddog.co.uk" <adr...@olddog.co.uk>, "m...@ietf.org" <m...@ietf.org>, spring <spring@ietf.org> S

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-20 Thread Greg Mirsky
Hi Zafar, I don't see how managing, using passive OAM, i.e. counting fly-by packets, at transient SR-MPLS nodes can be equated to breaking "no-forwarding state at transient LSR" model.I believe that practical is as important as aesthetic and that network cannot be operated without comprehensive

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-20 Thread Zafar Ali (zali)
sr-pa...@ietf.org>, spring <spring@ietf.org>, "m...@ietf.org" <m...@ietf.org> Subject: RE: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths Hi, Comments inline Yours Irrespectively, John From: spring [mailto:spring-bo

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-20 Thread Zafar Ali (zali)
Hi Adrian, Some comments are provided in-line. Please note that, we all want to let this lingering tread die and follow-up on the next steps noted during this email exchange. I will be happy to have a webEx call and discuss it further, offline. Thanks Regards … Zafar On 11/18/17, 9:08

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-19 Thread Stewart Bryant
) *Subject:* Re: [mpls] [spring] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths I would like to ask a fundamental question here. Do we need transit counters for only MPLS-SR, or do we need it for MPLS-LDP as well? If we need it for both, then we need to have

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-19 Thread Stewart Bryant
; Cc: mpls; spring; Clarence Filsfils; >> draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths; Michael Gorokhovsky; >> draft-ietf-spring-oam-usec...@ietf.org; Zafar Ali (zali) >> Subject: Re: [mpls] [spring] Special purpose labels in >> draft-hegde-spring-traffic-account

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-19 Thread John E Drake
g-traffic-accounting-for-sr-pa...@ietf.org>; spring <spring@ietf.org>; mpls <m...@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths Hi John, Sorry for delay in the response; I was away from the emails. Please see in-line.

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-18 Thread Adrian Farrel
Thanks for helping me break my resolution to leave this thread alone :-( >>> procedure (in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths) that >>> breaks SR >>> Architecture, highly unscalable and complicated to implement. >> >> [JD] Do you have any evidence to justify any of your

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-17 Thread Martin Horneffer
Ali (zali) *Subject:* Re: [mpls] [spring] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths Hi, Yes today we do not have any CLI command on any router to get paths statistics for LDP (I mean Ingress to Egress) as LDP is based on MP2P LSPs, so a transit node does

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-17 Thread Robert Raszuk
mpls; spring; Clarence Filsfils; > draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths; > Michael Gorokhovsky; draft-ietf-spring-oam-usec...@ietf.org; Zafar Ali > (zali) > *Subject:* Re: [mpls] [spring] Special purpose labels in > draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths > >

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread John E Drake
ccounting-for-sr-paths <draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-pa...@ietf.org>; Michael Gorokhovsky <michael.gorokhov...@ecitele.com>; draft-ietf-spring-oam-usec...@ietf.org; Zafar Ali (zali) <z...@cisco.com> Subject: Re: [mpls] [spring] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread Robert Raszuk
..@ietf.org>] *On > Behalf Of *stephane.litkow...@orange.com > *Sent:* Thursday, November 16, 2017 6:49 PM > *To:* Robert Raszuk; Alexander Vainshtein > *Cc:* mpls; spring; Clarence Filsfils; > draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths; > Michael Gorokhovsky; draft

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread Mach Chen
; Zafar Ali (zali) Subject: Re: [mpls] [spring] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths Hi, Yes today we do not have any CLI command on any router to get paths statistics for LDP (I mean Ingress to Egress) as LDP is based on MP2P LSPs, so a transit node d

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread Robert Raszuk
.org <mpls-boun...@ietf.org>] *On > Behalf Of *stephane.litkow...@orange.com > *Sent:* Thursday, November 16, 2017 6:49 PM > *To:* Robert Raszuk; Alexander Vainshtein > *Cc:* mpls; spring; Clarence Filsfils; > draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths; > Michael Gorok

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread Jeff Tantsura
regimir...@gmail.com> Cc: draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths <draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-pa...@ietf.org>, spring <spring@ietf.org>, mpls <m...@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [mpls] [spring] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-acc

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread Mach Chen
Filsfils; mpls; Michael Gorokhovsky; draft-ietf-spring-oam-usec...@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-spring-oam-usec...@ietf.org>; draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths; Zafar Ali (zali) Subject: Re: [mpls] [spring] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread Mach Chen
-spring-oam-usec...@ietf.org; Zafar Ali (zali) Subject: Re: [mpls] [spring] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths Hi, Yes today we do not have any CLI command on any router to get paths statistics for LDP (I mean Ingress to Egress) as LDP is based on MP2P

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread Robert Raszuk
> Hi, > > > > We are dealing with an SR network in which the data plane is MPLS rather > than IP. > > > > Yours Irrespectively, > > > > John > ​I think this is very important to stop here for a moment and discuss ... What is MPLS data plane ? MPLS data plane can be connection less (constructed

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread John E Drake
spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths <draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-pa...@ietf.org>; spring <spring@ietf.org>; mpls <m...@ietf.org>; Zafar Ali (zali) <z...@cisco.com> Subject: Re: [mpls] [spring] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-acco

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread John E Drake
for-sr-paths <draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-pa...@ietf.org>; spring <spring@ietf.org>; mpls <m...@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [mpls] [spring] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths Hi Folks, I also agree that it’s not a que

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
.com>; draft-ietf-spring-oam-usec...@ietf.org; Zafar Ali (zali) <z...@cisco.com> Subject: RE: [mpls] [spring] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths Sasha, We did not use the term SR-TE LSP in our draft and I think it is misleading. I sugges

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread John E Drake
..@ietf.org>; Michael Gorokhovsky <michael.gorokhov...@ecitele.com>; draft-ietf-spring-oam-usec...@ietf.org; Zafar Ali (zali) <z...@cisco.com> Subject: Re: [mpls] [spring] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths Greg, I concur with your position: le

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread John E Drake
ing@ietf.org>>;mpls<m...@ietf.org<mailto:m...@ietf.org>>;Zafar Ali (zali)<z...@cisco.com<mailto:z...@cisco.com>>;Greg Mirsky<gregimir...@gmail.com<mailto:gregimir...@gmail.com>> 主题: Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-acco

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
@ecitele.com>; draft-ietf-spring-oam-usec...@ietf.org; draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths <draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-pa...@ietf.org>; Zafar Ali (zali) <z...@cisco.com> Subject: RE: [mpls] [spring] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traff

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread Greg Mirsky
Zafar Ali (zali) <z...@cisco.com>; mpls <m...@ietf.org>; > Xuxiaohu <xuxia...@huawei.com>; Michael Gorokhovsky < > michael.gorokhov...@ecitele.com>; draft-ietf-spring-oam-usec...@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [mpls] [spring] Special purpose labels in > draft-hegde-sp

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
..@cisco.com; gregimir...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths Sasha, the purpose of the SR OAM Use Case is to illustrate how Segment Routing enables new ways to perform OAM tasks. Like delay measurements. What is discussed

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
michael.gorokhov...@ecitele.com>; draft-ietf-spring-oam-usec...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [mpls] [spring] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths Hi Sasha, many thanks. I'd point to SR OAM Requirements<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-spring-sr-oam-requi

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread Robert Raszuk
ei.com> > *Cc:* draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths < > draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-pa...@ietf.org>; spring < > spring@ietf.org>; Zafar Ali (zali) <z...@cisco.com>; mpls <m...@ietf.org> > *Subject:* Re: [mpls] [spring] Special purpo

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread Ruediger.Geib
lto:spring@ietf.org>>; Zafar Ali (zali) <z...@cisco.com<mailto:z...@cisco.com>>; mpls <m...@ietf.org<mailto:m...@ietf.org>> Subject: Re: [mpls] [spring] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths Dear All, I cannot imagine that operato

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread Greg Mirsky
*Cc:* draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths < > draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-pa...@ietf.org>; spring < > spring@ietf.org>; Zafar Ali (zali) <z...@cisco.com>; mpls <m...@ietf.org> > *Subject:* Re: [mpls] [spring] Special purpose labels in >

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
etf.org; Zafar Ali (zali) <z...@cisco.com>; Clarence Filsfils <cfils...@cisco.com> Subject: Re: [mpls] [spring] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths Folks, This thread started and the requirements reported clearly stated that all what we need is t

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread Greg Mirsky
徐小虎 Xuxiaohu > M:+86-13910161692 > E:xuxia...@huawei.com > 产品与解决方案-网络战略与业务发展部 > Products & Solutions-Network Strategy & Business Development Dept > > *发件人:* Greg Mirsky > > *收件人:* Xuxiaohu<xuxia...@huawei.com> > > *抄送:* Zafar Ali (zali)<z...@cisco.com&

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread Zafar Ali (zali)
r-paths <draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-pa...@ietf.org>, "m...@ietf.org" <m...@ietf.org>, spring <spring@ietf.org> Subject: RE: [mpls] [spring] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths I fully agree with you that

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread Robert Raszuk
-for-sr-pa...@ietf.org>; spring < spring@ietf.org>; Zafar Ali (zali) <z...@cisco.com>; mpls <m...@ietf.org> *Subject:* Re: [mpls] [spring] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths Dear All, I cannot imagine that operators will agree

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-16 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
...@ietf.org>; spring <spring@ietf.org>; Zafar Ali (zali) <z...@cisco.com>; mpls <m...@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [mpls] [spring] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths Dear All, I cannot imagine that operators will agree to deploy network

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-15 Thread Robert Raszuk
gt; *抄送: *draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-pa...@ietf.org>;spring< > spring@ietf.org>;mpls<m...@ietf.org>;Zafar Ali (zali)<z...@cisco.com>;Greg > Mirsky<gregimir...@gmail.com> > *主题: *Re: [spring] [

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-15 Thread Xuxiaohu
.@ietf.org>>;Zafar Ali (zali)<z...@cisco.com<mailto:z...@cisco.com>>;Greg Mirsky<gregimir...@gmail.com<mailto:gregimir...@gmail.com>> 主题: Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths 时间: 2017-11-16 14:25:32 s/p

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-15 Thread Xuxiaohu
c-accounting-for-sr-pa...@ietf.org>>;Greg Mirsky<gregimir...@gmail.com<mailto:gregimir...@gmail.com>>;spring<spring@ietf.org<mailto:spring@ietf.org>>;Zafar Ali (zali)<z...@cisco.com<mailto:z...@cisco.com>>;mpls<m...@ietf.org<mailto:m...@ietf.org>&g

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-15 Thread Jeff Tantsura
hs <draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-pa...@ietf.org> Subject: RE: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths If so, why not directly use RSVP-TE if the per flow state is needed? 徐小虎 Xuxiaohu M:+86-13910161692 E:xuxia...@

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-15 Thread Chengli (IP Technology Research)
pring@ietf.org>; Greg Mirsky <gregimir...@gmail.com>; mpls <m...@ietf.org>; Xuxiaohu <xuxia...@huawei.com>; Zafar Ali (zali) <z...@cisco.com> Subject: Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths Robert, If we have

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-15 Thread Xuxiaohu
ing <spring@ietf.org>, mpls <m...@ietf.org>, "Zafar Ali (zali)" <z...@cisco.com>, draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths <draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-pa...@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegd

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-15 Thread Mach Chen
, November 16, 2017 11:09 AM To: Robert Raszuk Cc: draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths; spring; Greg Mirsky; mpls; Xuxiaohu; Zafar Ali (zali) Subject: Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths Today, if you run RSVP-TE, you’d get

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-15 Thread David Allan I
Xuxiaohu <xuxia...@huawei.com>; Zafar Ali (zali) <z...@cisco.com> Subject: Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths Today, if you run RSVP-TE, you’d get (at least on high end platforms) counters per LSP. Having the same functiona

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-15 Thread Shraddha Hegde
com>; draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths <draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-pa...@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths As explained it is not needed to get all information required per pa

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-15 Thread Jeff Tantsura
sr-paths <draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-pa...@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths As explained it is not needed to get all information required per path. Yes you may have N:1 mapping of flows to

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-15 Thread Xuxiaohu
lt;mailto:m...@ietf.org>>;spring<spring@ietf.org<mailto:spring@ietf.org>> 主题: Re: [mpls] [spring] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths 时间: 2017-11-16 10:27:55 Dear All, I cannot imagine that operators will agree to deploy network that lac

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-15 Thread Robert Raszuk
xiaohu <xuxia...@huawei.com> > *Cc: *Greg Mirsky <gregimir...@gmail.com>, spring <spring@ietf.org>, mpls > <m...@ietf.org>, "Zafar Ali (zali)" <z...@cisco.com>, > draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths < > draft-hegde-spring-traffic-ac

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-15 Thread Robert Raszuk
ucts & Solutions-Network Strategy & Business Development Dept >> >> *发件人: *Zafar Ali (zali) >> *收件人: *Greg Mirsky<gregimir...@gmail.com>;draft-hegde-spring-traffic-acc >> ounting-for-sr-paths> or-sr-pa...@ietf.org>;mpls<m...@ietf.org>;spring<sprin

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-15 Thread Jeff Tantsura
spring <spring@ietf.org>, mpls <m...@ietf.org>, "Zafar Ali (zali)" <z...@cisco.com>, draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths <draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-pa...@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose lab

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-15 Thread Robert Raszuk
y<gregimir...@gmail.com>;draft-hegde-spring-traffic-acc >> ounting-for-sr-paths> for-sr-pa...@ietf.org>;mpls<m...@ietf.org>;spring<spring@ietf.org> >> *主题: *Re: [mpls] [spring] Special purpose labels in >> draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths >&g

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-15 Thread ShaoWen Ma
etwork Strategy & Business Development Dept >> >> *发件人: *Zafar Ali (zali) >> *收件人: *Greg Mirsky<gregimir...@gmail.com>;draft-hegde-spring-traffic-acc >> ounting-for-sr-paths> for-sr-pa...@ietf.org>;mpls<m...@ietf.org>;spring<spring@ietf.org> &

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-15 Thread Greg Mirsky
Dept > > *发件人: *Zafar Ali (zali) > *收件人: *Greg Mirsky<gregimir...@gmail.com>;draft-hegde-spring-traffic- > accounting-for-sr-paths accounting-for-sr-pa...@ietf.org>;mpls<m...@ietf.org>;spring< > spring@ietf.org> > *主题: *Re: [mpls] [spring] Special purp

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-15 Thread Greg Mirsky
make some compromise. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Xiaohu >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> 徐小虎 Xuxiaohu >>>> M:+86-13910161692 >>>> E:xuxia...@h

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-15 Thread Robert Raszuk
aohu >>> M:+86-13910161692 >>> E:xuxia...@huawei.com >>> 产品与解决方案-网络战略与业务发展部 >>> Products & Solutions-Network Strategy & Business Development Dept >>> >>> *发件人: *Zafar Ali (zali) >>> *收件人: *Greg Mirsky<gregimir...@gmail.com>;draft

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-15 Thread Greg Mirsky
@huawei.com >> 产品与解决方案-网络战略与业务发展部 >> Products & Solutions-Network Strategy & Business Development Dept >> >> *发件人: *Zafar Ali (zali) >> *收件人: *Greg Mirsky<gregimir...@gmail.com>;draft-hegde-spring-traffic-acc >> ounting-for-sr-paths> for-sr-pa...@ietf.org

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-15 Thread Robert Raszuk
tf.org>;mpls<m...@ietf.org>;spring< > spring@ietf.org> > *主题: *Re: [mpls] [spring] Special purpose labels in > draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths > *时间: *2017-11-16 02:24:10 > > Hi, > > > > This draft breaks the SR architecture. I am quoting

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-15 Thread Xuxiaohu
-for-sr-paths<draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-pa...@ietf.org<mailto:draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-pa...@ietf.org>>;mpls<m...@ietf.org<mailto:m...@ietf.org>>;spring<spring@ietf.org<mailto:spring@ietf.org>> 主题: Re: [mpls] [spring] Special p

Re: [spring] [mpls] Special purpose labels in draft-hegde-spring-traffic-accounting-for-sr-paths

2017-11-15 Thread Stewart Bryant
Zafar I don’t think you can assert that fails to comply with the SR arch. There is nothing they are doing that cannot be captured in Netflix/IPFIX and SR needs to work with IPFIX. Stewart > On 16 Nov 2017, at 2:23 am, Zafar Ali (zali) wrote: > > Hi, > > This draft breaks