Of course! How foolish of me! Dave, can you send me your address. I
lost it and I want to send your Tacoma Code Book.
On 10/24/07, David de Vries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How would you know? Simple, Ron. You would just check the log where the
> building engineer dutifully recorded the air p
Yes, but this does not require electrical supervision, does it? How about the
chain and padlock method?
Dave at Firetech Engineering Incorp.
"Scott A. Futrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
NFPA 20: 5.16.2. Supervised Closed. The test outlet control valves
shall be supervised closed.
Scott
How would you know? Simple, Ron. You would just check the log where the
building engineer dutifully recorded the air pressure on the system on a weekly
basis, as required by NFPA 25 where there is no electrical supervison, of
course!
lol
Dave at Firetech Engineering Incorp.
Ron Gr
I've always considered the high air supervision more critical than low
since a malfunctioning compressor that runs the air up will cause a
longer trip time whereas low air will just let you know that an
unwanted trip could happen if not attended to. Of course the emphasis
is put on the low air beca
Good story about a great sprinkler save. I need to pay attention to the
local news; this one was less then 20 miles from home.
Bob Knight
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 12:48 PM
To: sprink
Here's a good one:
In Idaho:
Sprinkler system helps contain fire at NNU dorm
10/23/2007
KTVB
BOISE -- Nampa fire officials credit a sprinkler system from preventing
a major fire disaster in a dormitory at Northwest Nazarene University
this morning.
Firefighters got a call from an automat
That's the way I read it to.
Dewayne Martinez, CET
Design Build Fire Protection
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Hasenmyer
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 10:07 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: ESF
Do you have to space to lights with an ESFR no matter how far below the
deflector the light (19-inch diameter) is installed?
The way I read 8.12.5.2 (2002) is that as long as the light is between the
top of storage and the ESFR, you have to be 1-foot away horizontally; even
if the light is 4, 6
13R allows designers to ignore OH doors in regards to positioning of
sprinklers required in garages. 13D allows garage sprinklers to be omitted
entirely.
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From: "Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "AFSA"
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 8:25 AM
Subject: Garage doors
Dave,
The requirement to monitor low and high air pressure has been in the code
before the 1993 edition of the National Fire Alarm Code.
Most of the supervisory pressure switches installed are very much capable of
monitoring both low and high air and have been able to for many, many years.
Mo
At .5 density I think you've reached the bottom of the flow switch range
anyway, so it probably won't alarm.
Thom McMahon
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488-2136
Tel: 970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926
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I think you're probably right. My memory is often getting things crossed up
and this is just one of those times I imagine.
Thanks
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Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 9:51 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesp
Maybe the bell was for combustible balconies. Though 13R allows them to
not be sprinklered, the IBC requires it.
Ed Kramer
Littleton, CO
>I am designing an apartment complex and using CPVC. I have convinced
>myself
>that somewhere I have ran across a code or standard that overrides the
>excepti
NFPA 13R, 2007 - 6.8.3.2
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Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 8:26 AM
To: AFSA
Subject: Garage doors
I am designing an apartment complex and using CPVC. I have convinced
myself that somewhere I have ra
6.8.3.3 13R (07)
Matthew J. Willis
Living Water Fire Protection, LLC.
1160 McKenzie Rd.
PO Box 877
Cantonment, FL. 32533
850-937-1850 Voice
850-937-1852 Facsimile
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I am designing an apartment complex and using CPVC. I have convinced myself
that somewhere I have ran across a code or standard that overrides the
exception in NFPA13R that allows the omission of sprinklers beneath garage
doors. Is anyone familiar with such a document?
Thanks,
Ron
Internal V
Is not the purpose of a 13R system life safety? So if the basement caught
fire wouldn't a Res. Head at a .0005 (oops) density set the alarms of the
same as QR sprinkler at a .1 density? The basement will not be occupied and
the occupants upstairs will be notified (electrically supervised as req. by
When you have 25 or 30 seconds to bring the end heads up to operating
pressure, the QRS isn't expensive- it's
P R I C E L E S S
Let's face it, how else can you reliably trip a system in 3.5 seconds?
There had to be a better way than the flying saucers that were shot after
you trip test the origi
Have you seen what those are going for? Man!
Tom
Go Red Sox!!
Good point- especially in the low tolerance Potter QRS, so ya don't lunch it
!
glc
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Good point- especially in the low tolerance Potter QRS, so ya don't lunch it
!
glc
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Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 3:56 AM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: RE: Supervisory Alarm - L
And a bleeder valve for testing/setting, like you would with any pressure
switch monitoring (high-low not null, like PS-10's). I've had pretty good luck
with the standard Ashcroft 1005 series 3-2-3 gauges, 0-80 w/retard. 5 year
life cycle per #25.
We've cut them into the main rather than at th
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